Because we live 250 years ago, have no modern electronic voting, and there are no other factors involved Common midcurve take https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54959962
"we live 250 years ago" sorry im not retarded enough to decipher the poor english you speak try again
Exactly, we dont live 250 years ago. Voting has changed, so any arguments you have about the history of voting is irrelevant. 30%-40% is done electronically on Dominion black box machines no one can verify #trustharder
wow the mental gymnastics you go through are wild, is your brain still there or is it just the liberal media headlines? LMAO you fucking clown im voting and were getting trump elected, go fuck yourself you useless spineless twat lemming
You can't address what I said because deep down you know it's true Cope and seethe
"No one can verify" wow you are retarded, it takes one brave search to find it https://www.vote.org/ballot-tracker-tools/ are all of the monero folks so whacked out on the furry porn that they forgot about search enginges?
You're so low IQ it's painful A website telling you something is not verification. You can't necessarily prove someone didn't use someone elses vote or illegals aren't voting (i.e. "dead people" voting in 2020). And you can't prove what happens in between you voting and who gets elected. "When registering to vote, individuals must affirm their U.S. citizenship under penalty of perjury. ***Although the registration form does not require proof of citizenship***, it warns that providing false information can lead to severe consequences, including deportation for non-citizens" LOL You don't believe BBC (rightfully so) but believe "vote.org" LOLOLOLOLOL
lol you cant even verify the monero supply but you use that, what a retarded hypocritical lunatic you must be
Every crypto can suffer a non programmed supply inflation, by bug or exploit. Bitcoin was exploited in early days, Stellar was exploited in 2017 and that problem will eventually come to Monero one day, maybe it's already here, we don't know, and maybe Bitcoin is actually exploited, we don't know, are you checking every transactions? For reducing the risk, like in Bitcoin, each Monero block contain the Coinbase Transaction where the new xmr created is public: around 0.6 per block (2 minutes) but an exploit is different, I repeat, Bitcoin can be exploited and the exploit will eventually be discovered many months or years later, but honestly, if it will happen only 1 time, this will be a catastrophe. Btc created by exploit will probably be immediately send on exchange, imagine 1 million btc droped out of thin air... I hope it will never happen on any network.
He doesn't know that every new Monero mined is transparent so you can literally count them or how bulletproofs and commitments work But even if that wasnt true he likes his crypto unverifiable anyway just like hit voting 🗽
I've never seen any evidence every new Monero mined is transparent, but the lack of price momentum in Monero is weak evidence of counterfeit inflation
"block reward: 0.600000" You can see this too if you run your own node. It's transparent briefly when it is first mined so you can manually verify the entire history of mined Monero. https://www.p2pool.io/explorer/block/3273953
You were just telling some guy how a website telling you something isn't actual verification of it... We don't trust Bitcoin block explorers because they exist, we trust them because the evidence suggests they're accurate and secure
I said you can verify this yourself if you run a node (which I do)...you can't run a node to verify votes I was just showing the website for your convenience
I just don't know if what you're saying about Monero is true, regardless of convenience. I would think proving it would require math skills and stuff, aside from just running a node. As far as vote counting, yes, blockchains would definitely make for more legitimate elections. Of course, at the Presidential level, US elections aren't legitimate at all anyway. They don't even pretend to let everyone have equal votes - most states openly have unfair restrictions, and some states just don't allow votes to be counted at all, their court systems have declared that election officials should simply pick the candidates for voters in those states. No matter what state you're in, your vote for President doesn't count because the electoral college will still have you outweighed by states like Iowa that just give their electoral votes to whoever the officials decide without counting Presidential votes. Your vote for governor or congressman might count if you're in a state that counts the votes, but Presidential elections would need to happen at the national level to happen at all. With these states openly saying they don't count votes, and people rarely talking about it, there probably wouldn't be much difficulty in keeping it a secret in other states. So there are probably lots of states where they also don't count the votes, but they at least pretend to. This invalidates all the elections in those states, not just the Presidential elections. This is what you're talking about when you bring up closed-source voting machines. But we don't need voting machines at all. It would be much more simple to modernize the voting process than anything blockchain-related: 1. Don't modernize the part where officials count the votes, just have them keep counting stuff on pieces of paper on an actual physical table with their actual physical hands and eyes and brains like the old days 2. Make it a nationwide voting right that every paper ballot has unused whitespace where voters are allowed to mark their ballots in any way they want 3. Put high-resolution camera coverage above the vote-counting tables and make live feeds available to the public via multiple different sources (internet, low-wattage local TV broadcast, maybe actual screens outside the building, maybe cable TV broadcast) 4. When you cast your ballot, the ballot box you're leaving the ballot in tells you when and where to watch the video feed for the ballots being counted from that box at that time 5. Votes from each ballot box are shuffled before counting so that someone can keep their vote private from others they traveled to the polling place with (not able to check how person before you voted by seeing which piece of paper comes out before yours)
You can literally sum up every single block reward since the creation of Monero. It's very simple math for that part. For bulletproofs and commitment, yes, it does take a higher level of math, but it's still verifiable. You can't say the same thing for the current state of voting at all regardless of your level of math (that's assuming you think voting is morally legititmate to begin with i.e. a group of rapists or theives could just out vote their victim) People like to throw around blockchains as the solution for everything, but it definitely could improve this area. Make it open source, throw in ZK proofs to hide who you are and who you voted for, while still making it verifiable that your vote was counted in the final result, and total number of votes cast for each candidate. It would have to require KYC/ID and would still have problems. But it could definitely be much better.
Its reliance on electronics would make it less durable. With my system, the assumption is that if technology goes away such that the video feeds fail, then the old system still just works as it did before.
aw did the two woke retards start infighting like usual? awww so cute one terrorist rapist supporter and one who thinks a currency whos primary purpose is to be a furry porn honey pot is gonna flip bitcoin XD
Monero is a million times more verifiable than your proprietary unverifiable blackbox elections 🙈🙊🙉
LMFAO THE XMR FURRY PORN ADDICT THINKS BBC IS A REPUTABLE SOURCE IN THE YEAR 2024 MY GOD THATS SO FUCKING RETARDED YOU MUST BE THE DUMBEST FUCK IMAGINABLE LOL
BBC is defending Dominion voting machines in that article trying to dismiss their involvement in Trumps 2020 loss. If you don't believe them (rightfully so), then you are agreeing with my criticisms. Who is the dumbfuck now? LOL!!!! Stop trying to steer the conversation away from the central point 30-40% of voting happens on Dominion voting machines that are unverifiable black boxes. It only requires a fraction of that to turn an election because voters at the margins are the only ones that matter. I also have no clue how you are in the Bitcoin/Nostr space and still are ok with closed source code and unverifiability 🤦♂️