Look at a map, there are lakes in Iraq. You're attacking his credibility in your entire response. You doubt he's a pilot because of what his position, rather than addressing the points being made. You would think this guy would be proven a fraud 3 or 4 years since this video was made, no? Think about who has more to gain from this lie? I found the full interview, here: https://youtu.be/fGjcTypR1GI From the same perspective, who has more to gain, lying antivaxxers or the corporations making them? Risk/benefit doesn't add up there, nor here. There is little to nothing to gain from lying about this, nor is there anything to gain from being a geocentrist; at least not from a monetary perspective. Many credible pilots make the same claims, I can't find all of the videos online. Here's another compilation I found while searching: https://x.com/RobotPolisher/status/1682219372503347201 Ironically, to your point about the military, that's what happened in WW2. Germans used a system targeting system the Brits claimed couldn't work on a curved earth, and the Germans bombed factories in England using that targeting system. LOL Line of sight radar debunks the curvature rate, seeing as these tests have been conducted over hundreds or thousands of miles. I've heard all the cope presented as a rebuttal. https://youtu.be/n2r6hFMBaKE