Oddbean new post about login | logout https://image.nostr.build/af98a70e2150ecfb84cfc0cf9a2c8362f753970bcf9e6f1a63f231c32fb8648c.jpg I highly doubt this makes any financial sense. The marginal cost to kill or seriously wound a Russian is probably something like $50k; the _entire war_ has only cost ~$250k per Russian casualty in direct military spending, and that includes lots of pricey defensive spending like anti-air defense. Ukraine has constantly been short on things like drones and ammo that could easily be purchased if only more funds were available. I _highly_ doubt the French government is spending less than $50k per Russian. There's a ton of work that needs to be done to vet defecting Russian soldiers given the high chance they're infiltrators, and every failure is incredibly costly. That's on top of ordinary refugee expenses like welfare and other social support, which cost thousands per year. Just spend the money on weapons and focus on killing Russians efficiently. The ones who are deserting were probably not effective soldiers anyway.
This is a very strange way to talk about human lives.
It's a war. Winning matters. Russia is the one murdering Ukrainians, by, among other things, hunting for civilians with drones. Killing off Russians as efficiently as possible saves lives. Not all lives are equal. It would be perfectly acceptable to kill a thousand Russian soldiers to avoid the deaths of one Ukrainian. https://x.com/CaolanRob/status/1843749934379515953
Are you kind of insane? I think any human has kind of the same value. Only by a passport the value of being human should not lower nor elevate your value. Every russian who flees and collaborates is a win. For sure there have to be security measures for spies. But when they can collarborate and demonstrate their friends from the front, that they will be treated humain after resigning, this could impact the moral of russians in a good pacifistic way.
I don’t agree. All lives are equal. No human is worth no number of other humans. All war is despicable. It’s unfortunate that young guys are being made to fight on behalf of their dictator. I’m sure none of them want to be there. Well, maybe a few.
The super majority of Russian soldiers that are dying are volunteers. Russia has not fully mobilized yet for political reasons. They're getting people to fight by paying them extremely well instead. That's also why Russia is increasingly recruiting soldiers from outside Russia too: soldiers from countries that are more poor than Russia are cheaper. These people don't deserve our pity. They volunteered to murder Ukrainians for money and died for it. The world is a better place without them. "all lives are equal" is "defund the police" level nonsense.
why don't you write a book about it. "How to create a genocide, efficiently" Israel's war on Gaza would be a great place to do research for it.
It's a war. You could kill every single Russian soldier, and it wouldn't be a genocide. You would however be preventing a genocide. https://x.com/CaolanRob/status/1843749934379515953
You discussed "marginal cost to kill or seriously wound a Russian", and said "killing Russians efficiently". The only time you mentioned soldiers was when you wanted to object to any effort being made to take Russian soldiers off the battlefield without killing them. This kind of hate is sick in the worst sense of the word. It is the type of hate which Israel's govt has for Palestinians.
A US marine saying that using drones to kill people from above is a whole new way to wage war is rather rich. The US has been doing that for ages, bombing wedding parties etc. I did not see any proof that Russians are targeting civilians deliberately. The type of proof that comes from Gaza and ppl like you happily ignore. Little children shot between the eyes with snipers. The 'double tap' claim, a strategy used by the IDF in Gaza, is made by what looks like a Ukrainian soldier whose face we never see. No proof provided. Yes, I believe that civilians are suffering. Makes me pissed off at the ppl in the West who prevented peace agreements, twice to date. Overall, a propaganda video which fails to provide any proof that Russia is "hunting civilians". Goes with those 'raping babies' claims from before.
Ugh you don’t win the war by killing every Russian soldier. You win by making the cost of continuing the war too high for the Russian government. Soldiers getting asylum in France is likely to undermine the Russian military’s ability to execute in a more systematic way than just killing more soldiers on the battlefield.
I don’t know about soldiers, but the west could definitely hurt Russia economically by giving visas to Russian engineers. I have a jewish-Russian family relative that works as a software engineer (therefore wasn’t conscripted), and fled from Russia when the banking sanctions began. First to Turkey, then he got an Israelj passport and now he lives in Portugal with his wife and kid. He was lucky to move his savings from bank to bank before the sanctions really hit. If he wasn’t jewish he couldn’t have make this travel. Best option for engineers who don’t want to work for Putin right now is going to Turkey, and if they’re rich then maybe Cyprus. … and despite all the traveling and banking problems I still failed to convince him to invest in Bitcoin 🤦♂️
Dehumanization is dangerous. This is how we end up doing the most horrible things to each other. From a purely strategic sense. Violence feeds violence. Any violence that can be avoided gives makes the road shorter to a peaceful co-existence of Russia and Ukraine in the future.
I am with you. Every violence that does not have to happen is a win for humanity. Democratic countries defnitly need a total win from Ukraine in every measure. But also with the most humaain measures possible. Russians should experiance how human should be treated as soon as they change the front line and lay down their weapons.
I‘m surprised that they acknowledge taking in refugies as an act of warfare
You are just promoting this shit https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyh-cRqtqUE
CIT mentioned in their report that french gov hiring creditable ex russian military to interrogate those people, to test if their stories are real. so yes, this is endeed expensive. I don't understand this move also. some "good russian" say that this way west shows for russians that they can escape conscription but I don't see how europe can possible manage such flow of people
Even if it may be less efficient (which is still to be proven) than investing in weapons, at least it is non violent. Your cold, purely financial reasoning is definitely the type of reasoning of an autistic sociopath.
It's a war. You need clear headed men to look at the situation objectively and win it. The more efficiently you kill off Russians, the fewer Ukrainians will die. Between the two, one group is objectively evil and the other is not. The objectively evil group is the one trying to massacre Ukrainian civilians with drones. https://x.com/CaolanRob/status/1843749934379515953
Objectively seen, at any front of war, it is some brotherhood against an other brotherhood. Every soldier is there first and foremost to make sure his close friends are fine. They fight for their brothers in war. There is no basic differentiation, when you would sit in a Russian front or the ukrainian front. So to have very effective ways for them to resign without losses is maby a very strong weapon. And then document those surrender to and push it through as many media services as possible to make sure this footage reaches russian soldiers.
The supermajority of Russians who are dying volunteered in exchange for (by Russian standards) large amounts of money; Russia has not resorted to large scale mobilization yet and it's illegal in Russia to send conscripts to Ukraine. The Russians fighting are psychopaths who thought it would be fun, and profitable, to kill off Ukrainians. That's probably a big part of why they fight in such wasteful ways: their commanders don't give a shit whether the men fighting live or die. They're just meat to them. And the Russians fighting don't give a shit about the people around them: they just want to avoid dying long enough to collect their financial reward. Not all cultures or people are equal. That's leftist "defund the police" type nonsense.
Exactly. You don't win a war by 'killing the other camp more efficiently'. Sending more weapons will just keep the war going on longer and kill more people (but I agree we also must do it anyway). This war I guess will end only thanks to some internal change in Russia.. So maybe this kind of action may be actually more efficient to that purpose. I've met a few Russians and Ukrenians in my life, I don't want any to be killed just because Russians are driven by a crazy fascist.
I also know both Russians and Ukrainians. The sane Russians with at least some wealth have mostly left Russia, for good. The ones I know who have stayed (or returned!) are nutjobs; I'm not concerned about the wealthier Russians who haven't left. And as for the poor ones, if they want to live the onus is on them to do something useful like sabotage to make their country lose faster. It's not that hard. We should not sacrifice the lives of Ukrainians – and quite possibly ourselves in the future – for the sake of Russians. The fact is, you do in fact win wars by killing the other side more efficiently. WW2 was won because far more Germans and Japanese died than westerners. We were damn good at killing them, to the point where they simply surrendered essentially unconditionally.
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ChatGPT does not agree: During World War II, the Allies suffered significantly more casualties than the Axis powers. The Axis (Germany, Japan, Italy, and others) lost about 8 to 10 million people, including both military and civilian deaths. Germany alone accounted for roughly 5 to 6 million of these. On the other hand, the Allies (including the Soviet Union, China, the United States, the United Kingdom, and others) saw around 50 to 55 million deaths. The Soviet Union had the highest number of casualties, with 24 to 27 million, mostly civilians. China also suffered heavily, with 15 to 20 million deaths. The higher Allied losses were largely due to massive civilian casualties and widespread destruction in the Soviet Union and China.
I specifically said "westerners" for a reason. We killed Germans efficiently. The Soviets were brutal and inefficient, including to their own people, and would have been utterly crushed without massive amounts of Western military aid. Allying with the Soviets was an example of joining forces with evil to fight evil. Also mentioning China here is ridiculous. The massacre of Chinese civilians by the Japanese is one reason why we went to war with Japan in the first place. It's like arguing that the 6 million Jews that were murdered show that we couldn't kill Germans efficiently and the war wasn't lopsided.
I see a number of misconceptions in you writings about the wars… or better say conceptions that take only similar points of view as true - well there are many others supported by numbers, logic and common sense. Please, study at least WWII and other military conflicts statistics and of course other people’s argumentations… it surely will make you more mentally and psychologically complete and stable (to my opinion any person talking about killing one people to save the others is ‘unstable’ and reminds me of many dictators from the past) and you will not think that killing more Russians or Ukrainians effectively is the only key to peace in todays Russia-Ukraine war)))) Peace.
"Clear headed men" disqualifies you. You don't even know the history of this war starting circa 1990. This was a 30 year NATO buildup, a 2008 us army first strike nuclear doctrine, a 2014 coup, 2 minsk treaties promises broken and a missile provocation. You must have got a woke education.
