Oddbean

There’s relatively little tech in this episode? It’s mostly a retelling of Jeremy’s experience with CTV from his PoV (which I think is borderline conspiratorial in its interpretations of the actions of others).

That's the value I've got from this episode. It gives interesting insights on the politics of making proposals, advertising and defending your work in the Bitcoin community, and how it can all go wrong – and become very frustrating for a dev. Things you won't learn in most other pods.

I didn't (want to) suggest that, it's just that I think he's a very valuable person and I empathize with him and therefore appreciate his perspective and honesty. Same goes to you. We're lucky to have people like that in Bitcoin and I'm pumped that he's back.

“Listen to this Pod and you'll learn a hundred times more about Bitcoin than by listening to the 500th podcast episode about [nonsense]” sounds like a ringing endorsement to me :) I definitely empathize with Jeremy, he definitely did get a lot of conflicting signals and that’s hard. I also value his contribution in normalizing covanents and the idea of adding them to Bitcoin. But he assumes certain malintent on the part of others that just contributes to a culture of “fuck the devs” which just isn’t healthy.

What is he misreading? When he said that some very important person told him that all his work on ECDSA tricks was completely irrelevant and they didn't want to even hear about it -- and then apparently Jeremy just threw everything into trash -- I found that weird. But what is the real story there?

Dunno, I’m absolutely sure there are some developers who were very rude to Jeremy, there’s a million developers who work on bitcoin in one way or another (though in context at Scaling Bitcoin it may not have been a relevant topic?). The discussion seems to heavily imply that all, most, or core developers are all rude or somehow stonewalling, which I find to be absurd.