Oddbean

Many developmental changes are easily overlooked if they're not large or user facing. I too often wish that clients had certain features or were more stable, but in the end I also immensely appreciate every single bit of work, every single line of code, and every bit of time sacrificed in the name of building. I understand that you work hard and that your client is your baby. Don't stop. Love you, brother and keep up the amazing work. I look forward to complaining about Damus on Android soon 🫂🥹 nostr:nevent1qqsd639eteupufspredqm68mr4rfg8fed4rf4wgavppze7tggnjwdvgpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3qxtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsxpqqqqqqzlttsfd

I appreciate Will’s work, but Damus has a long way to go to win me back as a user. Other clients have simply surpassed it in ways that matter to end users. The longer he goes between updates and the more time he spends on other stuff without fixing the issues in Damus, the more users he’s going to lose. If retaining and growing the Damus user base matters, then he needs to fix a lot of issues fast. If that’s not his priority, then maybe he’s on track for whatever he’s trying to accomplish.

Appreciate your feedback Corn. We have our head detective and master bug and issue fixer @danieldaquino working very hard on this. Our new AppStore build 1.8 will be coming out next week (pending approval), so hopefully you can try it out and report back. In terms of the crashes you mentioned, pls send reports when you can as we haven’t heard much of that lately. Same goes for issues feel free to tag me or @elsat and we’ll add them to the list. 💜

Sorry I was offline much of yesterday so just getting back through my notifications and saw your reply. I’m hopeful to see how Damus develops. I truly believe it has the potential to be the best client on iOS. “Best” meaning giving users an experience they will enjoy more than other clients. I stopped using Damus a few months ago because the app freezes and missing notes simply became too bothersome to keep dealing with. Whenever iOS prompted me to send a report, I did so hopefully those were helpful. I switched to the App Store version after that so I’ll look forward to trying the next update.

Current follows list is 700-something. It got up to 900+ at one point but I removed a bunch of inactive accounts. Mute list is probably several hundred because I was muting a bunch of bots back early last year before the relays started mitigating spam better.

Then you don’t spend much time on Nostr, or maybe you don’t spend much time listening to your users, or maybe you don’t actually look at the crash reports submitted in iOS, or maybe they’re just useless. Idk wtf to tell you Will. Damus became shite compared to other iOS clients and you’re more concerned about arguing with users who point it out than you are with actually fixing the problems. Some of the problems have existed for over a year without being fixed, like fucked up navigation between replies in threads.

I used to get crashes in Damus frequently but lately they seem to happen much less often. I do click "send crash report to developer" button when it happens as well, but not sure if that report makes it's way to @jb55 or @damus or maybe they just get lost in the ether along the way.

Pretty sure we have one of most responsive teams on nostr: @elsat is meticulously tracking all issues that users report here on nostr, and anyone can @ me at any time if they are having a critical issue that is preventing them from using the app. So far we are tracking a bunch of mute related bugs https://github.com/damus-io/damus/issues/2222 and a stalling issue when your contact list gets to a certain size: https://github.com/damus-io/damus/issues/2194 We recently fixed a major issue where if you don’t have a contact list you can’t use damus really. We are currently not tracking any major crashing issues, if it is still happening let me know. This claim that we don’t care or that i don’t use Nostr enough is just wrong, i probably use nostr too much. I am constantly dogfooding damus and have one of the busiest accounts to test on, but sometimes we miss things due to weird relay and contact list, and mute edge cases.

I haven’t had crashes/freezes for a very long time. It was something back many months ago. But not anymore. I have other quirks which I reported to @elsat though not sure if they are tracked. Because the one I have is very odd.