@ff56f6d6 That sounds like a lot of work... good thing you arent debating the issue then huh? :)
@b05df304 well, to simplify things, we can make general assumptions such as "everyone's opinion matters equally until they screw up" (equality of rights, jail) and "there exists a practical measure of the amount of screwing up per individual that was adopted by our society" (a judicial system). This clears the ground for issues like "what should be the requirements to consume alcohol?" or "should random morons be allowed and encouraged to vote on tax issues?"
@ff56f6d6 Ok, so how would we apply that to a 2 year old who wants to drink alcohol and who doesnt have a track record of screwing up?
@b05df304 I haven't met a two-year-old who wants to drink alcohol. Assuming that's the case, I would make them take the standard test for deeming someone fit to drink alcohol. They would fail because they can't read or can't understand the questions.
@ff56f6d6 While certasinly not the norm gifted children are able to read as early as 2 years old. My mom often brags how I was able to read at 2 years old... I was also fully capable of holding a conversation at that age... Should I and children like me, be allowed alcohol? I dont know if at 2 i actually asked but it would not surprise me if i saw my grandfather drinking one that at 2 I might ask to have some also.
@b05df304 ok, you might pass the test. The test would check that you understand that it might fry some neurons (I actually don't know how bad alcohol is on brain development at this age) and leave you someone disabled compared to another kid who hasn't had alcohol until a certain age. There would also be a test that determines whether you need parental supervision to do various kinds of things, including taking drinking-ability tests. So I think there would be a way for some gifted kids to gain more freedom from the law or from their oppressive parents but it would be rare.
@ff56f6d6 @b05df304 there is a huberman podcast on alcohol that is absolutely worth the listen. I still drink though https://files.mastodon.online/media_attachments/files/111/152/495/277/714/467/original/dc060f6c8b6db00a.jpg
@644cda1d @b05df304 thanks for sharing. I'm watching the parts that interest me. As a personal anecdote, psilocybin makes me forget how to enjoy drinking. After relearning how to drink a few times, I stopped drinking altogether. Alcohol now feels destructive, much like an escape into a dead end.
@ff56f6d6 I dont drink very often.. largely because one drink just makes me tired and feel shitty.. I drink, very rarely, but to get drunk, and pay for it the next day. Thankfully I'm only dumb enough to do that to myself like once a year max. Only thing I will really ever be caught doing is the devils lettuce from time to time, usually as edibles. @644cda1d
@b05df304 ok, you might pass the test. The test would check that you understand that it might fry some neurons (I actually don't know how bad alcohol is on brain development at this age) and leave you somewhat disabled compared to another kid who hasn't had alcohol until a certain age. There would also be a test that determines whether you need parental supervision to do various kinds of things, including taking drinking-ability tests. So I think there would be a way for some gifted kids to gain more freedom from the law or from their oppressive parents but it would be rare.