Oddbean

I'm Gen Z myself, and most of the men of my generation are at least competent, and many also know what they want in life and how to aim for it. I think that group is a minority, but perhaps a sizable minority. Personally, it's Millennial men that don't seem like real men to me. I've known several Millennial dudes who are in their 30s, never married, and don't really know where they're going in life. Admittedly, they've just had more time for their failings to play out, so perhaps its an unfair comparison. I probably have a pretty heavy sample bias for both groups, though.

After scrolling through this thread I've come to the conclusion that we're all fairly bias when it comes to this topic. Pros and cons of all generations. As for Millenials I can agree and disagree on certain aspects of your statement. All of my male best friends are happily married with kids, but based solely off of observation I must admit that there seem to be more stay-at-home dads within the millenial generation. It's an interesting phenomenon. Though, contrary to what most would assume, they're not living under this circumstance because they've failed in their careers, but due to the fact that they've succeeded very early on. Men like this undoubtedly make up a small percentage, though. When it comes to Gen Z I have to agree with Finrod. I've met plenty of very intelligent individuals of this generation. Which makes sense given that they were raised during an era of technological supremacy. But... as with every generation, there are cons, as well. Gen Z had the unfortunate luck of being born during a time of severe economic hardship. That's not their fault, though. Lol. Finrod, basically, summed everything up pretty well.

*Personally, it's Millennial men that don't seem like real men to me. I've known several Millennial dudes who are in their 30s, never married, and don't really know where they're going in life.* I suspect that I'm the unmarried, never had a real girlfriend, childless 40 year old example of this. As I've told Stella before, I still don't feel like an adult and still feel like a kid in relation to the older adults in my family, and I suspect a lot of us in this situation feel the same way, but we're probably unlikely to really change our situations.

I have to agree with you. As I've told Stella, I'm very disappointed with the men of the past two generations. Personally, I think it had something to do with being raised during the inception and advancement of certain technologies. Mainly the internet; we became too dependent on it, imo. 🤷‍♂️

Oh, well I can't deny that! 🤷‍♂️ I'm very disappointed in the men of the most recent generations when it comes to this. Of course, I'm not trying to generalize in any way. Lol. You could still be a stay-at-home dad without castrating yourself. I believe a disinterest in education is a big reason for the deterioration of a man's drive. One reason why I'm always reading. Also, having a family must play a HUGE role, obviously. What was the most difficult part about raising kids? 🤔