Absolutely mind bending. Big (and small) scales are so hard to conceptualize.

nostr:note1lwtap7r52yxjp23cm2flaxjx7lm4qt9t33rhmw0qc772yl45uagq2ceh3g


10k to go. And look at those beautiful fee rates! 💃
https://m.primal.net/HcFi.png


My point exactly. Crocs aren’t shoes. They are slippers, or (if you get the ones without holes) kitchen clogs.


Omg. Looks so good.


Dude. Not in public.


But we’re your web of trust! You can’t escape us!!!


There’s a time a place for most things. 😉


You should try. You don’t have to wear them in public. They’re my house shoes. In fact, my first pair is still going strong nearly 20 years on. Impressive.


Reminder that the US matters less and less… nostr:note16eqqctakc9w4d7eyjkht5wjxmm8wf6n79wdzx5yhecpcfez5vxfqswjmvr


🤯 https://i.nostr.build/Bd3Y.jpg


I guess I’ll have to huh?


Giving nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft a run for his money, I see.


Sounds like it was a good Friday demo huh?!


I am also really good at this. 😅 makes me happy every time I nail it.


curious... widevine is DRM tech right?


I can’t wait to get out there. Really looking forward to finally skiing Jackson and doing it with a bunch of Bitcoiners no less!!


😂😂 so accurate.


Happy birthday Rabble! And thanks for the trivia laced story too!


Thanks for clarifying!


So, trust your bunker provider or run your own bunker. To me, this is a pretty easy model to understand.

The bunker implementation can definitely be improved and become more paranoid but I think the trade-off for brand new users to get up and running super fast is worth it.


This is already the case in many (most?) places. The resolution of demand/price changes isn’t very high but it’s there.


Thanks!


How else could a remote signer sign on your behalf if the key is encrypted?


You now enter your keys on their accounts page IIRC. which is what makes me think it’s on their servers. nostr:npub1xv8mzscll8vvy5rsdw7dcqtd2j268a6yupr6gzqh86f2ulhy9kkqmclk3x can you confirm one way or another, just out of curiosity?


This sounds super interesting. I’m not too familiar with go or gRPC but would love to understand the mechanics of this off disk unlock or remote signing.

AFK right now but I’ll have a look later and might send a few questions.


How so? Alby has your keys on their server. I guess it doesn’t have to decrypt them very often though…


I just mean you could set some sensible defaults for how long it stays in memory instead of being reencrypted and purged from memory.

Anyway, I'm not so concerned about the current bunker model, still beats going around and putting your key into lots of clients, it's about as safe as using an extension like Alby...

Obviously all this stuff will get better over time.


deadlines?! 😂

seriously though, looks like an awesome project!


fucking legend!


💯 I would love to see this!

nostr:note1r8xc72dul7xmdegtz0fxvqhwdshn8rjtc98e53xjhjvmlqd6ay2s6na95s


Ah ok. That would be a fairly straightforward improvement.


I’ll have a look tomorrow. Brain is mush at this point.


I’ll have to have a look tomorrow. That should work.


Can’t wait to try and one up the live app building this year in Riga! nostr:note1jj7dc44cnjerugu05fcrrkkgmncrlj4k3rnrxlq9gcee9g065fkspz3qcc


Yup, it's true. Bunker has to be able to decrypt the key in order to sign with it. The user provides a password that is used to encrypt at rest but when the key is needed for signing the Bunker has to decrypt it (with the password you provide). The key is used and then re-encrypted.

This is why it's important that the code for something like Nsecbunker is open and (ideally) it would be verifiable that a bunker service is running the exact same code so you know they haven't done anything fishy.


How's it work? Is it up on Github or somewhere? I'm super curious.


it won't have power for exactly 12 hours a day, all year round. 😉


Few people realize how under-utilized power generation in the world is. Power generation MUST be built for peak loads, even though most of the time they don't see anywhere close to that level of consumption.

Think about that for a moment. It's like having a business that has to build a factory capable of producing multiples more product than it can sell at any given moment.

This is part of why our power infrastructure has been slowly degrading and why there has been so little new investment in the space. It's just a very tough business model.

Bitcoin change this. The ability for Bitcoin miners to be installed anywhere with an internet connection and rapidly turn on and off in response to demand makes it an ideal load balancer and gives power generators the possibility to monetize all that extra generation capacity, which can be reinvested into infrastructure and new generation capacity.

It's a beautifully virtuous cycle that helps to raise the average load, and the margins of power generating businesses and gives us all more access to power, at cheaper prices.

https://i.nostr.build/ljkA.png


Isn’t this just an extension?


The nsecbunker use case is one that is deliberately built to feel familiar to users. I fully agree that instant accounts without reliance on other systems (email/phone) is one of nostr’s super powers but we have a long way to go before users are comfortable with that model.


Wow. Cool QRs!


This looks like it’s going to be great! nostr:note1hxkmvhavzg5mumwqk2dr9lnnzs4ckz23mungc4f7nu966fjt6ktq07rxkl


Awesome trailer! Can’t wait to see it!


Just over two weeks and I’ll be there. Can’t wait.


Do it! 🔥


Glad to hear it! 🤙


I’m not sure I’m following completely but you can run NDK as a singleton in your app. It’s managing fetching and sending data. Then it’s up to you to manage that data (especially session data) in a way that is safe for users.

Happy to review code if it’s up somewhere.


Nip44 is about as solid as we can reasonably get IMO. beyond that we’re into very complicated and difficult cryptography to ensure things like forward secrecy.

In any case, it’s a massive improvement over nip-04.


Even with nip44?


Why? Privacy issues or something else?


One of my favorite styles. 🍻


GM Nostr! 🌞 New week - let's get after it.


Also - curious, what are you making recently?

And - do you know of other Nostriches into homebrew? We should start a community here if we can find a few more.


Yeah – the rest was a bit hazy, but tbh, I've never minded the haze.

I did just finally take the plunge and get a few corny kegs. No more cleaning bottles. 😁


Good luck. 🫂 I don’t miss those nights.


Bitcoin’s influence is strong. 😉


When you moving to town?!


Literally just ran outside and snapped. I can take zero credit. 😅


Completely lit sunset earlier this evening. 🔥 https://i.nostr.build/W9dV.jpg


ok - that's what I sort of thought, but wanted to check. New release is really good btw!


Nice. How do you know if the NIP-05 is setup already?


Nice! for the oauth flow are you running an nsec bunker or just sniffing out bunkers with NIP-89?


In what blockchain?! This is Nostr! There is no blockchain. 😅


What blockchain?


Those look incredible!!


Nice!!


#100aDayUntil100k ✅


No. It’s private to you only. When it’s your list you are encrypting the content of the list (public list items are stored as tags on the event) with your own key so you are the only person who can read it.


Someone’s been skipping leg day 😂


Yes. You can make lists and those lists can have either public or private items in them. If it’s private, only you can see the content of the list but everyone can still see the name of the list and other info.


Have you done your pushups today?


What’s wrong with getting jacked to the tits before the halving? nostr:note13595xhlxadtkpqjqa4p5j3quesq8m4n7m7sj222nhe9unzaqfwvq7cl9wa


How many of you are still getting your #100aDayUntil100k in?

Me? Day 4… starting to feel easier...


🤣 I’m actually crying I’m laughing so hard.

…now gotta finish that last set.


😩

nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr


🤣🤣 spot on.


It was a recipe called Super Lemon Ale. Not quite an IPA but close. Lots of fruity and floral hops.


Come on over. 🍻


Brewed my first homebrew in several years and I must say, I’m very happy with the results. https://i.nostr.build/EPqJ.jpg


nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft thanks for all the feedback that helped move this one along! 🙏


🚢 Version 0.0.5 of Nostr Ignition has been released!

And late on a Friday, cowboy style, no less! 🤠

Nostr Ignition is the easiest way for Nostr clients to implement the OAuth-like sign up and sign in flow. And now allows clients to remotely sign events too!

New in this version:
🖋 signEvent method to sign events via a remote signer.

🎾 ping method to check things are working.

🔄 Automatic management of auth challenges (when the window pops up asking for your password) so the client doesn't have to do anything.

✨ Lots of refactoring to improve the flow.

Quick demo video

https://v.nostr.build/gj66.mp4


I'm also very curious, especially after DHH talked so much about polish.


Beefsteak?


The world is coming around to the self-sovereign way of thinking.

https://once.com/campfire


Just need to make sure nostr:npub1y67n93njx27lzmg9ua37ce7csvq4awvl6ynfqffzfssvdn7mq9vqlhq62h and nostr:npub1zu5tdnq7w63fgmsfz85te7e6zeg7y2lt8q8r9jp5zcg68jfy73jqraqtgz don’t have any electric weapons this time. 😅


Ooh, drafts on nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg web. 🤌

https://m.primal.net/HaIz.png


It can be.


I don't think I'm on the council but could I get a temporary pass or something? nostr:npub1jzuma368395gu523y4vk4d34p0lxgctk436hggn4qcuj93075qgqtn3vm0 is Nostr Uncle for sure!


Can someone point me to a video (or make me one) of signing using the Amber app? I'm on iOS so I've never used it or seen it used.


That's how I felt the day after the last time I went surfing. 😂


The combo of the worlds best Bitcoin conference and the worlds best Nostr conference is going to be absolutely amazing! 🤙⚡🚀 nostr:note1pgvfz5ns3ccgw2z7nc77d7g7knuv0wlylth3338qymukcdeazq0qqxxvtw


If one’s base case for fees over the next epoch is for them to 100x+…

Is the most rational thing now to consolidate all your cold storage utxos into a single utxo for future spending?


Nope. We're west of the Dolomites by a few hours. Rock is all granite and gneiss here instead of limestone.


I'd rather have a proper mac specific client (with zaps).


What are some good ones you'd recommend.


It's surprisingly hard! 😅

I've been impressed with how quickly my body is adapting though.

Keep going, just do inclines on your knees to start. It's ok, we won't judge (too harshly 😝).


I definitely underestimated how much time Nostr Ignition would take. NIP-46 is badly spec'ed and opaquely implemented in the wild.

It sucks that nsecbunker is the only server-side implementation of a remote signer. We need more people building infra in the Nostr space, not just new clients.


Does band of brothers count in the genre?


Agree!


Yeah, it was real. Only lasted like this for a minute or two.


I’ll extend that with another reminder.

If you have high standards (in whatever it is you do) you will look mental to the majority of people. nostr:note14utqum5mn2nlw7x8m7vmctm0utuqcnhl4c2ahv2vw3vvwgg9c8rqq2y29n


Yes. All I changed was to lower the blue because the light tricked the camera into thinking the foreground trees should be blue. 😅

The sky really looked like that.


GM Nostr! 🌄

Looking straight up fake this morning.  Nature is incredible. https://i.nostr.build/vqnl.jpg


What?! Amazing!! ⚡⚡⚡


Gimme a shout if you get stuck. NDK has changed a lot since that tutorial.


Why not do both? Field on your kind: 0 metadata and create a list (with Listr).


😆 A reasonable request.


Yeah, that's definitely one solution. But how many normal people are going to do something that complicated? 0.

Ultimately, you still have to be running a VPN. Otherwise your ISP can see the requests going to your Bostr on the VPS. Ultimate truth is that there is only so much you can do to lead a horse to water.

We should all strive to run software and services and businesses that respect user privacy as much as possible and track as little identifying data on them as possible. The real trick would be figuring out how to structure the incentives for businesses such that they really don't want your private info. E.g. it makes their businesses easier or more profitable without it...


 nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn and nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s were talking about this on a recent Thank God for Nostr podcast.

My takeaway was that it's very good but has serious scaling limits because of this.


10,000% agree. It's the most important tech there is.

I just find it funny when people make their attacks on Nostr with "it's not private enough" as if that is what will stop Nostr from gaining adoption.


Not yet! 😉

Un passo alla volta.


Because they keep showing up outside my window. 😄


Keep going. I logged the last of my day 2 pushups just before climbing into bed (nearly forgot that last set). 😅

Set a timer. 10 sets of 10.


#truth nostr:note15ut3mp37h49kckgdq49d952hy4gjcxelkvunucac2y00vzx7wykq2fj2mn


Jokes also on him if he hasn’t yet noticed that most people don’t care about privacy.

Not to say they shouldn’t. Just that the reality is, they don’t.


GM Nostr! 🌞

Chiavenna is going to be the next European bitcoin hub. 🤝 https://i.nostr.build/3Lll.jpg


Cool. But ultimately it’s User A’s wallet that the funds are coming from? Via an invoice?

Sorry, haven’t yet had a chance to read the docs.


So it’s sort of a translation service to make simple lightning payments into zaps?


Do them incline on your knees to start. Build up.


Yes! nostr:note1tvk5mfkztt3avxwt79uz3arhljft5htqhupaplddwzukys04pazsfqyq0z


Sogni d’oro! 😴


Day 1 of #100pushups challenge completed. 4 sets of 25. Not going to lie, the last few of the last three sets were incline.

If you’re not familiar; the challenge is to do 100 pushups per day until bitcoin crosses 100k. Spread them out, use your knees, just get them done.

💪📈🚀🌖


🙈 still need to redo that video. nostr:note1f6mcld2eekj9fnkjnz5pzsp8fg0ttrruu7gupdrsj7uk6kyg8qaqqemfw8


I’m in. LFG! 💪 nostr:note143c2cxupt4qtfup8uu7uwu4lk8gsp96hzvnp3v4cnhklyzcjjeys9h5jsq


can't see the event ii damus, primal, or nostr.band


Tell me more about what you're thinking/expecting from a tool like that. I'm building something that is a bit related so I'm keen to know more.


My latest nostr:npub19mduaf5569jx9xz555jcx3v06mvktvtpu0zgk47n4lcpjsz43zzqhj6vzk #MarceFiles is out, this one is not a video, its a blog talking about the beautiful #BitcoinFreedomFest nostr:npub1aav9g8r0ruzt7vvlr7g40hv9yk9tncf7wa7xrcj0txc2qmsdw45q7nfzmt and the nostr:npub14f26g7dddy6dpltc70da3pg4e5w2p4apzzqjuugnsr2ema6e3y6s2xv7lu team put together!

Its so beautiful to experience my home from a #BitcoinStandard

nostr:naddr1qqxnzdesxcerjde3xyur2d3sqgszak7w562dzerznp222fvrgk8adkt9k9s783yt2lf6luqegp2c3pqrqsqqqa288x9c0d


Expectations far surpassed for our first Satoshi Spritz here in Chiavenna. Around 40 people showed up and everyone was super engaged and curious and open minded.

The highlight was talking to someone who produces energy locally about getting some miners. 🤯

LFG! 🚀


Getting ready to head to Satoshi Spritz here soon! 🤩🥂

https://i.nostr.build/0ZB9.webp


🔥 Amazing work by the team at nostr:npub1kmwdmhuxvafg05dyap3qmy42jpwztrv9p0uvey3a8803ahlwtmnsnhxqk9!

nostr:note1jt58evx9plyud38dkcdwk75t4rgf8srf6lthzs8x44pzejdjpytqg0m9jt


Interesting. AFAIK, they handle mute lists pretty well. nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg maybe something to look intohere?


nostr:npub126ntw5mnermmj0znhjhgdk8lh2af72sm8qfzq48umdlnhaj9kuns3le9ll any word on when VPN/remote access will be available? I'm making the switch from Umbrel.


It was disclosed on the LNBits telegram a week ago.


If you have a wallet running on LNBits' legend server, have a quick look at it. I had one I used for dev stuff that was drained of over 100k sats a few days ago via what appears to be an exploit using Satsdice (an extension I don't have installed and didn't previously know even existed).
 nostr:npub1a8jzweysxa9qmtmht874736aalm0lwdsl306nrys9d05ktlrhw3qcr5pj4 worth looking into. I saw that nostr:npub1r4jrmus0hqgmx0pulvzvwtdsf34wqvwm768kzway2sruhhv5g6mqcul5p9 also mentioned this happening to his wallet on legend.


There is a way to associate a new private key. It's not a perfect solution (didn't aim to be) but it is something that helps you rotate to a new (predetermined) key in the future in case of disaster.

https://kind0.io/app This app can help you create the needed events.


Hell yeah! Congrats Peter. 🍾


What app/client are you using?


Check out https://listr.lol or https://kind3.xyz/

You can back your follow list up with those tools.


Legend.


Amazing. Thank you!


We didn’t even take any pictures! Good opsec I guess?


Yup. 🤷♂


In service to making Nostr better? Absolutely!


How do you feel about custodial nsecbunker?


Also there's already: https://github.com/rust-nostr/nostr

Shouldn't that be the library to implement nip-46 in Rust?


😬 That is definitely not the way to ship in 2 weeks™


This thread has turned into an absolute treasure trove of opportunities to build!

Anyone want to volunteer to bring all the thoughts together in a coherent doc?

nostr:note1993353nnqysydcx3k4nrse3xqqxnarpacduqfpcs0qjye8khhdqssmzvzv


One step at a time! This is how we actually deliver in 2 weeks™.

Signing coming next.


Tell me more about this. What part of verification? NIP-05?


Why doesn't Alby work? Something about your system or just that it doesn't work for you at all?


Depends on your network but yea, I hear that.


Don’t want to end up completely rewriting NDK here though. 🫠


Great feedback. That indirect replies thing with primal kills me too.


It doesn’t do that yet. Just creates a new account and calls connect and returns the pubkey to the client.

That’ll be a fairly easy add though.


Agree. Things feel pretty fragile much of the time. I wonder how we would go about pinpointing issues in an aggregated way. 🤔


They’re here already?! 😂


What client are you using?


Initial password? Do you mean your nsec (private key)?


Wouldn’t the client need to still know to send events for signing to relays so that the bunker could sign them?


The browser… https://i.nostr.build/oJ45.jpg


Tell me more. Why’d you change your mind?


GM Nostr! 🌞

I'd love to hear what your most painful experience using Nostr is right now. All aspects are fair game; keys, clients, relays, data usage, speed, search, etc.

Bring me your horror stories!


This is now all fixed in the 0.0.4 release. Improved a few other build & security related things as well.


If you’re running an nsecbunker you probably won’t be creating a new account for yourself, right?

But I am going to add some UI to allow you to input your npub or nip05 to sign in (call the connect) method. It’ll still be up to the client itself to handle signing using nip-46 remote signing from that point forward though so I don’t know how useful that actually is.


Yup. Realized last night talking to nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn that there is a browser quirk that needed fixing. Fix will be out in a few hours.


🤣🤣 nostr:note1nysqwwvwlm7dyy4d7du8xev9qmn6gy5r9frxnqzaw4t59yc6tnfq8s4xnw


Those are gorgeous! 👏


I’m guessing on device will win for a lot of people. They’ll join Nostr via a mobile app. Then that will be their gateway/signer for other apps that they try from then forward.


Exactly. This allows users to create a brand new account, and the nsecbunker keeps their private key for them and allows them to retrieve that key if they want (or if they lose access, to regain access using an email address the way that most people users on the internet are accustomed to).

Users can always take their private key and delete their account on the bunker but I imagine that plenty of users (just like with bitcoin) don't trust themselves to manage their own keys.


Since this is aimed at new users who still need to create an account, them already having an nsecbunker running isn't really reasonable. Like nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s said in another reply, other clients and service specifically there to run bunkers are the ones who will provide the backend.

The library uses NIP-89 (application handlers) to find nsecbunkers that support this sort of flow and then allow the user to select between them when creating an account.


🚢🚨 Nostr Ignition Shipped 🚨🚢

I've just released Nostr Ignition! A simple drop-in library that helps onboard new users to Nostr using the "OAuth-like" flow that nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft demoed a few weeks ago. This library makes it easy for any client developer to add this flow to their apps with less than 10 lines of code and get new users signed up and using their clients in 60 seconds or less.

https://v.nostr.build/8AQg.mp4

Code is under MIT license and I'd love to have more contributors! https://github.com/erskingardner/nostr-ignition
 nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6, demo included this time 😜


GM Nostr! 🌞

Shill me your best users to follow.

Especially anyone interested in...
– Outdoors (climbing, skiing, running, mountain biking, hiking, etc.)
– Fermenting things (bread, beer, kombucha, etc.)


Welcome!!


Thanks for the thoughts!


Strangely, the health service has always been amazingly good for us. 🤷♂


I'll make you a video a bit later.


I'd actually love your feedback on a few pieces of that library if you have a few minutes to catch up in the next days or next week?


Nope, this has been a bit back burner but I'm trying to get it done. It's close now, I think.

This is the thing you offered a bounty on a few weeks back. Actually, I'm going to ping you to get your thoughts on a few decisions I ran into today building on it.


I’m sorry for your loss.


It has been surprisingly easy until now and it wasn’t even the lightning node’s issue.


Core. Thanks for the tipis.


Definitely disk related to begin with. Already moved to a different disk but the files from the original were obviously corrupted beyond a reindex.


That’s what I’m doing now from my old umbrel


Still struggling to get my node to sync.

Full reindex didn’t work. Keeps choking about halfway through. Now attempting to copy chain data from a slightly behind raspberry pi node. To see if I can get caught up.

Had a channel force closed this morning, likely cause the lightning node had been offline so much recently. 😩


It’s not the same is it?


😂 European.

Europe is so fucked. Still coasting on the accomplishments of the Renaissance.


Government bureaucrats at their finest. More than a month ago, I was given an appointment to collect a document this morning at 10:24am. I arrive to find a huge queue of people waiting to go in and told there are no appointments Tuesday morning, get in the queue.

So now I’m standing in -2° while no one goes anywhere. All to collect one piece of paper.


💯 tbh, I sort of like the quiet. 🤫


Did a bit more work on this last night. I’m going to keep working on it today but I’d love contributors and/or feedback on the approach I’m taking so far. nostr:note1qys3qamh37qahnxdqjvhzcencpw70p3j32h3378d7kmqlqqkslvqtr67rf


GM Nostr! 🌄

Glorious day, let’s get after it and build!


Always. Everything and everyone are unique snowflakes. ❄😂


Thanks Jon. Yeah – it's an odd one because the app I'm working on now doesn't have a ton of features but they are sort of interconnected in a way that I feel some users are going to want to do the workflow from one direction and others are going to want to do it from the other direction.

I'm generally very in favor of opinionated software but feels like a situation where an exception might be appropriate.


#NostrDesign

What’s the consensus on whether apps can/should have multiple ways of doing the same action on different pages or in different places?


I would love to hear more about what you think the top 2-3 things are that are broken. I get that the network is not very mature when it comes to strong privacy or moderation but are there specific things you'd call out?


GM Nostr! 🌞

I had a wonderfully unplugged weekend getting jobs around the house done. How about you?


Somewhat, but that would require some sort of indexing service to run alongside the client to try and keep track of the counts of all those things.

I immediately think of the primal index/cache but I'm not sure it exposes counts like that, nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr do you know?


❤❤ so much talent.


In the end, I just moved my node and I’m reindexing now.


They're running. It's actually 2 nvme disks raided together, so it's running on both.


That's what I figured too. Seems to go in a loop of trying to update to the latest state, then breaks and jumps back about 1000 blocks and starts verifying again. 😕

I guess now I get to learn how to move a lightning node.


Anyone ever see these errors on their Bitcoin node?

```
2024-01-19T17:15:48Z LevelDB read failure: Corruption: block checksum mismatch: /data/.bitcoin/chainstate/493231.ldb
2024-01-19T17:15:48Z Fatal LevelDB error: Corruption: block checksum mismatch: /data/.bitcoin/chainstate/493231.ldb
2024-01-19T17:15:48Z You can use -debug=leveldb to get more complete diagnostic messages
2024-01-19T17:15:48Z Error: Error reading from database, shutting down.
2024-01-19T17:15:48Z Error reading from database: Fatal LevelDB error: Corruption: block checksum mismatch: /data/.bitcoin/chainstate/493231.ldb
```


Windy and cold today. But beautiful. https://i.nostr.build/6WWP.jpg


So far ahead of his time.


💯 I'm so annoyed the week is over already. Weekends are such a shitcoin.

(thankfully, I don't have to respect weekends 😈)


GM Nostr! 🌞 Happy Friday.


Like this? https://i.nostr.build/mDdK.jpg


Yup. That about sums it up. 😂

Even worse, it was to open several lightning channels on my node so I can't even RBF the damn thing.


This is a future I'm here for. 🤙


That feeling when your transaction has been waiting for 6 days and the mempool is slowly clearing...

https://m.primal.net/HYRV.gif


sounds like a business opportunity to me.


Satoshi Spritz - January 26th 2024

https://i.nostr.build/0ZB9.webp

We're hosting a Satoshi Spritz Bitcoin (& Nostr) meetup here in Chiavenna on the 26th of January 2024. Free spritzes and Bitcoiners, what more could you possibly ask for!?

https://i.nostr.build/0ZB9.webp


Bug reports pouring in this morning from early testers. Love it! ✨

This is BY FAR the best community to build for. 🤙 nostr:note1pd2ls4cnup9jdhas5v2ve9d963rkc47guhg2cv9w6gnyyla29y4sjdrzy3


So jealous. Enjoy it, it’s a magical place. ✨


If you're managing multiple accounts, I highly recommend Nostrudel on the web. https://nostrudel.ninja/


You know it 😉

It's being used by a few people already, so I feel confident I'm easily within the 2 week window. 😅


Welcome!! 🫂


Both? 🙈


I’m getting close to releasing a new app I’ve been working on. The excitement is palpable. 🚢🚀

It’s still early but over the last few weeks a bunch of concepts have clicked together in my head and I’ve got a pretty clear idea where this is going.

A big thank you to all the folks that have given me feedback and helped me shape this up over the last few weeks. You know who you are. 🙏❤🫂


Legendary! Congrats to the team. I can't wait to see the jet fuel this pours on the companies in the space!


lol  😂 auspicious!


😂 glad you made it ok!


I love this way of thinking about it. Decentralization is natural (and nature). nostr:note1fm8c67nvh3helnu7rjyehvw2ltfhrszrrylvejkfl2zv6sz0kt7stm8xhz


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That would be amazing!


Hey nostr:npub10000003zmk89narqpczy4ff6rnuht2wu05na7kpnh3mak7z2tqzsv8vwqk I created a PR with a few ideas on how to change the nostr-ruby gem to make it a bit easier to build on and to use as a dev. Would love your thoughts before I do anything else on the library...

https://github.com/dtonon/nostr-ruby/pull/5/files?short_path=79b8416#diff-79b8416fcbe9d355cc6dcda13b825ff89aa55496709be20e0c5621ad6a58417a


Is the code up on Github or somewhere else? Would love to see how you've implemented it.


GM Nostr! 🌞 Thank God it's Monday.


Devs, scientists, technologists, cypherpunks. I want to follow you.

Send 👋 👇


Yeah. I actually like the way NDK is organized by thing you want to do. It only uses nips when it’s very specific.


Yeah. I’ll let you know. Thinking about giving it a go, it’d be fun to go back to ruby for a bit.


Just curious. I’ve always loved ruby and rails.

Would love to see a good gem that did the full suite of things, a bit like NDK.


nostr:npub10000003zmk89narqpczy4ff6rnuht2wu05na7kpnh3mak7z2tqzsv8vwqk are you still working on Nostr Ruby? https://github.com/dtonon/nostr-ruby


😂 dying! I'll bet only about 5% of people here know what a Haynes manual is but man that brings back memories.


Okay, now I can make it public: everyone go check out thunder.wtf page, soon there will be 2 ebooks waiting for you! One with tips and tricks from an insider and a recruiter, on how to land your first Bitcoin job and other, for companies, on how to hire more effectively and make their hiring processes as smooth as possible!
Totally free, and no data will be collected either, cuz, come on, why would I need your data!
Stay tuned!


Reminder. All phones are owned. nostr:note1v927wj4z70w7y5q6uczncssz3sqguckzmzyuu9arxr2hxfql08dsf9mgck


Personal finance tracking for global citizens that connected to 17k+ banks & brokerages worldwide + most crypto (including shitcoins & exchanges) and helped you track other assets (like real estate and angel investments) too.

Turns out, VCs have a lot of scar tissue in the space and doubted we could overcome the extreme customer acquisition costs in consumer products these days. 🤷♂


GM Nostr! 🌞

A year ago today I made the call to shut down my startup. I had raised 800k, and I had a team of 5 people at the time. While it was a gut-wrenching decision, it wasn't a hard one. I had super supportive investors and a great team but the follow on funding just wasn't there for what we were building.

What's funny, is that when I look back on that period (and the hundreds of investor meetings I took in the months running up to that decision), I don't feel sad or angry, I feel happy and calm.

My company failing was what led me to Nostr. I had the time and the space to dig in and really understand the nascent protocol, which made the decision of going all in so early a no-brainer for me.

So today, on the anniversary of the death of my last company. I'm feeling very grateful. Grateful for the opportunity it gave me to find this protocol and this community. 🫂

LFG and build the future! 🚀


True also. But not as pithy. 😂


Nailed it!


I think that nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft is working on something...


Comedy = Tragedy + Time


Amazing news!

nostr:note1hqrfu8ghe0pfy5gad7vdrh4y4wqrg2kr8uwax2arrnday3z3yw3s65tvj0


🤣 Sorry buddy, Faaans is a horrible name.


Yes, it does. You should definitely add that straight away.

Also, I’m realizing how much harder it is to write nostr code without NDK 😅


Let’s get it done first 😅


Oh definitely. I can’t wait until next season.


Twitter in shambles over ETF news confusion…

Nostr in stitches laughing at the infinite meme potential of the ETF news confusion…

We are not the same.


Sell the news. 🤷♂


They only send once. Just show in the UI multiple times.


6! 🚀


Me too! It would be great to hang!


In case anyone is around this neck of the woods later this month, we're hosting a Satoshi Spritz meetup for Bitcoin and Nostr here in Chiavenna.

https://i.nostr.build/B2dw.webp


I'm not familiar with Bitcoin connect at all. I'll have a look!


Please take a look - it's not finished by any means.


Anyone interested in helping bring nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft's Oauth-like login experience to many more apps?!

I've started a simple drop-in library that will enable any web client to trigger the creation of a new account (via nsecbunker) when a user without a NIP-07 extension tries to log in.

Repo here: https://github.com/erskingardner/nostr-ignition


Enjoy! So wish I was going to be there the whole time with everyone. I'm going to be there the last week or two though. 😉


Writing raw CSS at the moment and feeling very grateful I don't have to do this often anymore thanks to TailwindCSS.


A special GM to all the devs and teams that are starting the inaugural nostr:npub1s0veng2gvfwr62acrxhnqexq76sj6ldg3a5t935jy8e6w3shr5vsnwrmq5 cohort this morning in Madeira! 👨💻🚢🚀

I'm guessing nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft  and nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc have some pretty amazing experiences cooked up for you all.


GM Nostr! 🌞

I'm so excited about all the things I'm working on at the moment... now, if I could only find the hours in the day to get them all done. 🙈


GM nostr:npub1t3ggcd843pnwcu6p4tcsesd02t5jx2aelpvusypu5hk0925nhauqjjl5g4


 nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 I started a little shell of a library here. https://github.com/erskingardner/nostr-ignition

It's got the basics of the UI, I haven't yet started on the OAuth stuff but that's next. Any suggestions welcomed.


It's a beautiful day. 🌞


yup – you can duplicate someone else's list into your own list. I haven't yet built the "follow everyone from this list" but I'll get to it one of these days.


Did you already start on this? Or has anyone done it?


😂 nope. But it would be a good addition.


1. No.
2. Yes. Would love to.


morning in europe. yea, it is always  nice and slow. good way to wake up.


amazing  🤩  💪🍾


Madesimo Italy.


Current status: Puking snow, set to go all night.

The Bent Chetlers are ready for tomorrow! ⛷
https://m.primal.net/HWiT.jpg


This is like one of those enough monkeys on typewriters will eventually produce Shakespeare type things, right? 😅


I can confirm that this set up is amazing. I set up two merchants today using nostr:npub13ljnkd633c7maxatymv3y2fqq8vt3qk7j3tt0vytv90eztwgha9qmfcfhw and nostr:npub155m2k8ml8sqn8w4dhh689vdv0t2twa8dgvkpnzfggxf4wfughjsq2cdcvg. If you're pushing adoption with merchants in your area, you'd be hard pressed to find an easier setup. 👏

Huge thanks to nostr:npub190dy7q6yd0qudlcqt98r2zs70mzhlwwdcjnm2f55yg74dns9n85sja09r3 nostr:npub1y24gz5gwucl79vtv4ctwpysl0r5m4xyzu2rgulnr44ks3t5mt92q4nz2ad and nostr:npub1j8y6tcdfw3q3f3h794s6un0gyc5742s0k5h5s2yqj0r70cpklqeqjavrvg for making this happen!

nostr:note17qt5smhl9f8wdvx37pgur4d4345jmv74ak2h5sqw9620yu0av9kqmfcxeu


We're writing code instead.


💯 This is completely ridiculous.

nostr:note1tc5vrvwyu4a3cqhph0s6mxw4xm3guzmat8lut45dym3ced4pxq7s8zh96y


Earthquake?


GM Nostr! 🌞 Get after it today.


Came across something of his today doing research. He’s down in Milan. Might have to see if he wants to chat.


Thanks – that is sort of what I expected. We also have the added hellscape of the OAM registry here in italy which is financial surveillance at it's most badly conceived.


#askNostr

Any European lawyers out there? Can anyone point me to the exact law or regulation in Europe that makes it impossible to run a custodial lightning service as part of an app or for a circular economy?

I'm just trying to go deeper on what the ACTUAL requirements are if you want to be fully legal and run a custodial lightning node with something like LNHub.

Please, no replies just yelling about how the regs are bullshit. I 1000% agree, but that's not what I'm looking for here.


GM! So... it appears that Bitcoin isn't just for criminals... 😂

https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2024/01/02/bitcoins-role-in-human-rights-and-global-empowerment/?sh=120dbd03553f


This is definitely our longer term plan. We don't really have lots of space in the garden for doing something like that right now though.


OMG, I'm so jealous. 🤩


A surprising (or unsurprising, really) number of chefs and foodies grew up with similar experiences. My grandparents were the same, all summer we ate what came from the garden or stopped on the side of the road to buy fruit and veg directly from the farmer.

Living in Italy only reinforces how important good food and good ingredients are. The best dishes are almost always the simplest.


I'd love to join the ranks! Need to open a few more channels sometime soon (hopefully when fees go down a bit).

https://amboss.space/communityRequest/5fa0756d-f0ac-4239-9f23-02aa80ee9732


Definitely, some of the kit would be reusable. I'm guessing the barrel sauna would be something I could sell on when I build the new one as well...


Love this response. I've wanted a sauna for a very long time and it's something I try and do regularly enough (we're lucky to have many options close by) but regular is on the frequency of months rather than weeks.


#asknostr

Should I…

1. Buy a freestanding barrel sauna for the garden right now.

2. Lower my time preference and wait to build the sauna when we renovate the old barn next to our house. This could be done in anywhere from 18-36 months from now.


You can get started with small batches really cheaply and easily. Check out https://www.nothernbrewer.com They have all the basic gear and recipe kits to make pretty much any style you like.


Exactly! Need to stop doing so many backflips. 😆


been saying this consistently the whole time. 🫠


Have you ever tried? I feel like you’d love the process.


Primal bug forse? 😂


Thanks for the force close nostr:npub1hcwcj72tlyk7thtyc8nq763vwrq5p2avnyeyrrlwxrzuvdl7j3usj4h9rq 😑


Madesimo in Italy


Italy, but it's Switzerland just behind the ridge in the background.


What a fantastic way to start a new year. 🌞🏔⛷ https://i.nostr.build/K7J3.jpg


I love that the image is upside down. It sums up Nostr well. 😂

nostr:note1py06qyfm3d0jvnv9ztedqxu0x2kds4zrxds3y78yycctm2kypwvqkn025y


Happy New Year Nostr! 🍾

https://m.primal.net/HWHw.jpg


Today, we make beer. 🍻
https://m.primal.net/HWET.jpg


I guess you'll just have a come visit again. 😉


Welcome. 🫂


I'd love to put this on Nostr.how. nostr:npub1e4qg56wvd3ehegd8dm7rlgj8cm998myq0ah8e9t5zeqkg7t7s93q750p76 Would you be ok with that? I'll give credit, obviously.


💯 damn straight.

nostr:note1shuaw7094wqdr5wlufqjf2uw5d4gfqxl89exlx68d9amkudju36sk3l7n5


Nice! Matterhorn. 🤩


Switzerland has good graphics. 🇨🇭
https://m.primal.net/HVdU.jpg
https://m.primal.net/HVdV.jpg


💯 and it only gets harder as you get older.

nostr:note1txm2tf2rhdn2eu2vt32tz9w8epmhwsmme8dyxup5cr9n2ga2sghqzzvhey


You too 🫂


GM and Merry Christmas Nostr. Thank you all for the amazing year of growth!
https://m.primal.net/HVJh.jpg


What are you drinking?!


💯 classic American Christmas.


MC nostr:npub1v0lxxxxutpvrelsksy8cdhgfux9l6a42hsj2qzquu2zk7vc9qnkszrqj49


Merry Christmas !


Canadian truckers turned him. Everyone gets it eventually.


GM Nostr! Happy Christmas Eve! 🎄

Enjoy all that last minute gift buying and food shopping and panic. 🤣


Great to see. It's amazing how many people finally grokked Bitcoin after the Canadian Truckers Protests.


I started in Ruby. Principally because of DHH and Rails. I love Ruby!


Really gotta get the Basecamp guys on Nostr…
https://m.primal.net/HVCa.jpg


Grazie 🙏


Grazie! 🙏


Thanks! Definitely felt a little lacking in my vocab but had a great time! 🙌


Grazie per l’opportunità nostr:npub1rd0wwn037yltsh256d4urxjpsr6ye6dva6azaggsl848nwc64ehq60r3ys !

Dopo un paio di settimane parlando esclusivamente in inglese ho sentito un po’ a disagio ma era molto divertente lo stesso! nostr:note1vkdu887m2ctkwmgqrutvv7jxz5zclcus478g8wvdtvd0zdsnxgpspwc378


🤣 LOL! You're right. Using NDK with blinders on so was thinking in terms of NDKUser.zap or NDKEvent.zap without thinking about what each method would do.


🏆 for the crispy skin!


Question for the devs out there...

Say you want to zap someone when you send them a DM (zapvertising style).

In your opinion, is it better to zap the user and tag the DM in the zap event or zap the DM event itself? Leaning towards the first but I'm not really sure why...

#askNostr #devNostr #buildNostr


What do you think about the approach 0xChat is taking with nip44 + gift wrapping + nip101 (alias keys). Seems like it takes privacy to a much higher degree.


Ok. I double checked and you’re right. I’ve been confusing 2 nips as 1. 🫠


So sick. Can’t wait to get it set up. nostr:note13p2c2ptrljc5dmvhmnexjf6lshjynvfprzvyandaj0h34yp9qlxsg5e58f


Fixing a large part of the leaking metadata is definitely a win, no?


Seriously well designed and executed 👏


Amazing outcome!

Is there show recorded and up anywhere to watch?


🚀 Love to see it!

nostr:note1r5yfd7tplw37yhsm2d9fh0u8flxfgg8glmjcxdgpzfwnxxfs2jzq7z2pzn


Incremental steps forward are always better. 😄 We'll get there.


DM's on Nostr are officially fixed. (the changes still need to be implemented in most clients but it's happening)

Thank you to all the legends that worked so hard to make this happen! 🙏

nostr:note18qctpn07cx2lteahud3rm5dw0fjw69jpk6pfz7qtdg7lkwld0r4qdd2h6m


GM Nostr! 🌞 Feeling particularly bullshit this morning! I'm very excited about the growing momentum in the music and video spaces here.
 nostr:npub1h8gzew8am6cezuq7cpjgudldra40hgnruqrqlsrqnxnzs5wjtczqztps02,  nostr:npub13qrrw2h4z52m7jh0spefrwtysl4psfkfv6j4j672se5hkhvtyw7qu0almy & nostr:npub1a377f258tzafuzdgezwjw4aplg8ze3suyzm40t6j4czcjvwp5vls5d5r4w live shows, nostr:npub1zach44xjpc4yyhx6pgse2cj2pf98838kja03dv2e8ly8lfr094vqvm5dy5 and Flare.

And they said Nostr was just bitcoin content...


AMAZING! Love to see this and the site is absolutely gorgeous. Well done!


I think about this daily and it makes me so sad. But it's 100% the reality of the world. We have to get SOOOOO good at UI and UX that our products are easier and can do things that centralized things just can't. That's the only way to real adoption.


That's the one!


nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft did you ever publish your app for key migration? I can't find it...


Thanks!


Brings a tear to my eye... 🥲

nostr:note16m49sw3k43nfyd5d5vjxvz675l8punsws3u24dxcm8r3a08ra4ssxwcd0u


Seems to me you still have 12 days according to the Two Weeks™ rule.


🤣 Nailed it.


Sounds like a plan – In Jan or early Feb maybe?


Thank you ser. You too!


Come visit! 😄


GM Nostr! 🌄

Almost the bottom of the year.
https://m.primal.net/HUcR.jpg


I aabsolutely love how Intercom is completely fearless when it comes to planting a flag for their product vision.

https://www.intercom.com/believe


I hate vacation. Feels like a waste when I love what i do and already don't have enough time to do it.


I haven't. But I might have to make a trip.


Sats.ink would be an awesome bitcoin tattoo image collection. 😅


For a few years running, I made Beef Wellington. Takes some time but it's such an amazing Christmas Day lunch.


I feel like this is always the most busy week of the year. 🫠


Very much so! Can't wait until the next one but I hope you're having a nice holiday in the meantime. 🎄🍾


This looks super interesting! Too bad it's 3am my time 😕

nostr:note1sduwkx0773u5vk774g4v9z35g7k85s5e7n5vm4zhdugauqc7fc0qgmwy9d


Very well put. 🫂


GM Nostr 🌞 Frosty one today.
https://m.primal.net/HUGU.jpg


Miss you too! I hope you recover quickly and have a nice chill holiday!


Jesus. Really sorry to hear that Roya! Any idea what kicked it off?


An inch is as good as a mile sometimes. Glad you’re ok.


This is starting to get out of hand.

I’d like to speak to the manager…
https://m.primal.net/HUCY.jpg


nostr:note1vv3yzrcq7nde5797nqzmgq0r2zh3y8f9gkgtwkmchw4d85e2c0mq2rg5re

How I imagine the nostr:npub19mduaf5569jx9xz555jcx3v06mvktvtpu0zgk47n4lcpjsz43zzqhj6vzk team every day. 🤣


GM Nostr. 🌞

#coffeechain
https://m.primal.net/HTzw.jpg


🤞 hopefully nostr is still here in 20 years.


In 1977, Nike (at that point still called Blue Ribbon Sports) is absolutely dominating in the running shoe market.

The company is growing, in revenue, in market share, and in employee count.

But Rob Strasser, a senior member of the team, and the guy responsible for making sure most of the college and pro athletes in the US are wearing Nikes every time they play, is pissed.

He’s pissed because the culture is becoming more corporate and bureaucratic.

So he sits down and types out a document listing principles that he believes epitomizes the Nike culture.

This document is a masterpiece. Companies (and protocols) don’t win based on their products (at least in a sustainable and long term way). They win based on the culture that creates, markets, sells, and supports those products.

Food for thought. What’s the culture that we want in Nostr?
https://m.primal.net/HTwe.jpg


HEY HONEYBADGERS 🦡 🔥 This is your LAST CHANCE to buy Genesis block tickets! ⚡ ⚡

Early Bird batch will go on sale when we have more details to share! 🤫 Meanwhile, we are preparing something special for you next year! 💥 💥

Grab your ticket: http://baltichoneybadger.com
https://void.cat/d/4zoiFzLLTwFsXQhndgpRBJ.webp


🤯 Ok, who's going to build the proof of concept?


Nice move!


It should be a core operating principle of all builders to reduce the amount of "undifferentiated heavy lifting" they do.

Don't reinvent components and libraries, don't run your own servers and services...  UNLESS they actually add value to the end product you're trying to build. And when I say value, I don't mean the type of value that only you (as the builder) care about, but things that users notice and care about.

Focus relentlessly on the value you're bringing to the end user and be ruthless about spending time only on those things that improve it.

nostr:note1h09g2hsx6rpkshjukz7enwmsxt87p046wzlzmplmwk7kf77puk2qv5stzl


I absolutely love tailwind. I also don't understand why more people don't use it.


🤣

It's ok nostr:npub1v0lxxxxutpvrelsksy8cdhgfux9l6a42hsj2qzquu2zk7vc9qnkszrqj49 we're here for you. 🫂


😂 My system is almost exactly the same.


Added to the queue, thanks!


Agree, meditation has made a huge difference in my life.


Mostly just curious to hear how other people do it.

I'm with you, I'm mostly thinking about it regularly/all the time, but I find certain times of year (like now) are especially good for taking stock.


GM Nostr! 🌞 The end of the year is nigh and I'm feeling very reflective.

Do you take time regularly to think about where you've been and where you're going? Any good strategies that have helped you?


A pre-event at the next Nostr conf?


There was a site a while ago to show how rich Bezos is. It was a cool design because you scrolled horizontally and passed other things on the way. E.g house in Seattle, cost of a leer jet, etc. and the things started to get wilder and wilder. scrolling, you really noticed how long it was taking to not go very far.


🤯 can anyone even comprehend how big a trillion is?!


🌇🔥
https://m.primal.net/HTpo.jpg


That’s fair. Goes both ways. I readily agree with you that there are plenty of missing features and lots will change (including in plenty of ways that some of those rabid early users hate). Evolution.

I am happy though that we have the space to experiment right now.


For now. This is a feature, not a bug. Having a small, rabidly excited, early adopter group helps us prove new ideas quickly without getting distracted with huge inflows of users.

My guess is that we’ll see the Bitcoin focus start to fade over the next year.


Congrats!! 🍾


It was a good one this morning!


GM London. ☁
https://m.primal.net/HTiH.jpg
https://m.primal.net/HTiG.jpg


Hey y'all, nostr:npub1arkn0xxxll4llgy9qxkrncn3vc4l69s0dz8ef3zadykcwe7ax3dqrrh43w, nostr:npub1zuuajd7u3sx8xu92yav9jwxpr839cs0kc3q6t56vd5u9q033xmhsk6c2uc, and I just started up this telegram channel to dig deeper on making and playing games on Nostr now that crashglow.com is online!

If you're interested in gaming and especially making and testing games on Nostr, please join the conversation:

https://t.me/NostrGamedev

#gamedev #indiedev #gaming #gamestr #crashglow


Thanks. 🙏


GN Fishcake!


Interesting, for sure!


Why?


In theory, yes.

Would cause lists to look like they were missing content in clients that didn’t support it though. Which, I guess wouldn’t be the worst thing ever.


What are the best indie gaming conferences?

#asknostr


Love these ideas. Especially branching out to other conferences and talks that aren’t bitcoin specific. nostr:note1rpjtysje70p699eqq5pmhzvk0u6ejqwwc6lsmukeffx240lynd8qqlj0hk


nostr:npub1arkn0xxxll4llgy9qxkrncn3vc4l69s0dz8ef3zadykcwe7ax3dqrrh43w had a cool idea for Yondar where an event owner can specify other npubs as admins and then clients can allow changes made by those npubs to show on the root event.

You could do something like that with any event kind.


Yeah. I had thought about it. I think there are probably pretty good language detection algos out there that could do auto labeling though. Anyone into #ai or #ml know what the state of the art is in that area?


No. They aren’t. It would be super hard to do I think without significant changes to the NIP.


nostr:note1u6c0wx0fesefwayac7uxx3tk0qw54en4jxtprg8up4ecu0rpx9fqr6wdu9

🤔 questions to make you think.


Free money for everyone. There are valid arguments that it’s way more fair, efficient, and effective than the current welfare state.

Since I think that the welfare state mostly needs to go anyway, I’m more interested in learning more now about how the idea of UBI relates to the rise of AI, robotics and automation.


Thanks. Helpful!


Agree. But if the current trend in AI, robotics and automation holds we’re not going to need anywhere near the level of labor we have now. I’m curious to better understand both sides of UBI to test my thinking.


Amazing. Thanks for sharing the notes!


It’s amazing what passes as journalism these days.


Thanks for that helpful recommendation.


Hey Nostr, a recent conversation I had sparked a bunch of questions about UBI (universal basic income). Anyone read anything interesting (on both sides of the argument) that they’d recommend?

I get the basics but want to go deeper.

#asknostr


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Also, the fact that it’s called “The Long View” is hilarious. 🤣


Ahh Katie. If you only took a bit of time to do actual research and get the facts right. 🤡
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A mi piace tanto questa! Bravo. 👏


I love that. 🫂


GM Nostr!

Not to diminish in any way what we're all working on but it's important to remember that free money & free speech are only the prerequisites to what we really want; which is the freedom to live your life how you want.


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💯 Fuck easy.


I think it will if you give them unique experiences that they can't get from centralized platforms.

We're on the hunt for those new experiences right now.


Amazing work on this guys!!

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Precisely!


Amazing 🤩


What’s annoying is how slow everyone sounds in normal life 🤣


Welcome to the future. 😅


That's true, but I believe that every little obstacle we throw in their paths (especially using their own fucked systems of control) is helpful.


It’s impossible. 😅


nostr:npub1az9xj85cmxv8e9j9y80lvqp97crsqdu2fpu3srwthd99qfu9qsgstam8y8 you think this thing could be rigged to transmit transactions?!
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Little sushi on a voyage. nostr:npub1e4qg56wvd3ehegd8dm7rlgj8cm998myq0ah8e9t5zeqkg7t7s93q750p76 🙏
https://m.primal.net/HSjd.jpg


Oohhh…this looks 🔥

https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/919/files


GM Nostr! Less than 20k to go until the halving.

Stay humble, stack sats, build the future you want to see.


Thank you!


I was literally coming to ask the same thing!


You've clearly never been to the deep south. 🤣


I really love this idea!


I expanded on this idea a bit, in case your interested.

https://habla.news/a/naddr1qqxnzdesxymnsdp48qurxve4qgspwwwexlwgcrrnwz4zwkze8rq3ncjug8mvgsd96dxx6wzs8ccndmcrqsqqqa28l4zfz3

nostr:note1a0nyyj3plv30hhc8348wrfxruzn76pgc9txmm96cvmpmxwvjqp0qa52cr6


Et voilà!

https://habla.news/a/naddr1qqxnzdesxymnsdp48qurxve4qgspwwwexlwgcrrnwz4zwkze8rq3ncjug8mvgsd96dxx6wzs8ccndmcrqsqqqa28l4zfz3


I completely agree.


The landscape of building products and companies in the tech industry is undergoing a significant transformation, moving away from the era of vertically-integrated, walled gardens. The pendulum is already on it's downward trajectory and the future of tech looks brighter than it has in years.

## The End of Vertically Integrated Tech Giants

Over the last 20 years, the tech industry has been dominated by vertically-integrated companies. These companies controlled everything from hardware to software to user data, due to the complexities and costs associated with running large-scale data centers and infrastructure. This control allowed them to create powerful monopolies that continue to dominate the industry. However, advancements in technology and changing market dynamics are leading to the erosion of this model. Companies can no longer solely rely on their integrated structures to maintain market dominance. Users are increasingly seeking alternatives that offer more control, more privacy, and more freedom of choice.

## The SaaS Model: Losing its Edge

Another aspect of the tech landscape that is starting to show it's age is the sofware as a service model. The appeal of the SaaS model, once a groundbreaking approach, lay in the simplicity and scalability it offered, both for providers and users. Why own, run, and maintain software when you can rent it by the month? But, increasingly high subscription costs, lack of data ownership, and a one-size-fits-all approach have led to accute customer dissatisfaction. Furthermore, parabolicly rising customer acquisition costs and challenges in user retention amid intense competition are making it difficult for SaaS companies to sustain profitability and growth.

## The Return of Self-Sovereign Solutions

Companies like 37signals, Start9, and Umbrel are examples at the forefront of a movement back towards a more user-centric, decentralized internet.

1. **[Once](https://once.com)**: This initiative by [37signals](https://37signals.com/), one of the originators of the SaaS movement and makers of [Basecamp](https://basecamp.com) and [Hey](https://hey.com) is a direct response to the limitations of the SaaS model. Once aims to offer a line of software products that users can own permanently after a one-time purchase. This model revives the notion of software ownership, privacy, and security, allowing users to host and control their own IT infrastructure. It signifies a paradigm shift from renting to owning software, granting users more autonomy and control.

2. **[Start9](https://start9.com)**: Start9 is democratizing access to private servers, making it feasible for average users to establish their own server infrastructure. This approach is a significant departure from the cloud computing model, which often compromises privacy and involves high costs. Start9’s StartOS enables users to easily install and use a variety of open-source software, empowering them with greater control over their digital footprint and reducing their dependence on large tech companies.

3. **[Umbrel](https://umbrel.com)**: Umbrel provides an operating system for personal home servers, enabling users to manage their data, run private networks, and even engage in cryptocurrency operations from the comfort of their homes. This model places a strong emphasis on privacy and data control, challenging the traditional cloud-based models. Umbrel's offerings, including ad-blocking across the network and automation of home devices, represent a shift towards more autonomous and self-reliant computing.

## Rearchitecting the Internet

This shift goes well beyond innovative companies reimagining the experience of buying and using tech products. The emergence of decentralized publishing protocols, such as [Nostr](https://nostr.how), exemplify the shift towards a more open, user-controlled internet.

Nostr, which stands for "Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted by Relays." is an open protocol designed to enable censorship-resistant and global value-for-value publishing on the web. Unlike traditional web protocols, Nostr is not a specific app or service, but rather a standard that allows for the creation of various applications and services, all of which interoperate using the same data.

One of Nostr's key strengths is its resilience, stemming from its independence from a limited number of trusted servers for data movement and storage. The protocol is designed to be robust against the disappearance of relays, allowing users to connect and publish to numerous relays that can be changed as needed.

Another espeically important feature in the age of AI is that accounts and messages on Nostr use public-key cryptography. This allows anyone to verify a message's origin and that the message's contents haven't been tampered with.

The rise of protocols like Nostr represents a movement away from centralized control of publishing and data storage towards a more distributed, user-controlled approach. This decentralization not only enhances privacy and security but also promotes freedom of expression and information sharing, aligning with the early ideals of an open and free internet.

## The Return to an Open, Decentralized Internet

This shift is not just a technological change but also a cultural one, where users demand more transparency, control, and ownership over their digital lives. The rise of these new protocols, products, and companies is a clear indicator of this transformation signaling a return to the early principles of the internet – openness, decentralization, and freedom.

The pendulum of technology is swinging back to it's roots as protocols and companies spring up to deliver products that promise a more open, free, and self-sovereign vision of the internet.

This is a long form article, you can read it in https://habla.news/a/naddr1qqxnzdesxymnsdp48qurxve4qgspwwwexlwgcrrnwz4zwkze8rq3ncjug8mvgsd96dxx6wzs8ccndmcrqsqqqa28l4zfz3


An important caveat to this that might not be immediately obvious. Open, interoperable, and decentralized are not benefits that are immediately obvious to users. Very few come for the ideology.

We have to build stunningly beautiful, fun, easy-to-use products that genuinely solve problems for users if we want to win.

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It's not even just Nostr. It's happening everywhere. I posted a few days about about once.com, the new initiative from DHH and Jason Fried (from 37signals). They're eschewing the SaaS model and selling software outright again so that customer can simply run it on their own infra.

Even in normal SaaS land, companies are feeling the crunch. Customer acquisition has gotten extremely difficult (and expensive), retention is always a challenge when customers get stung with a bill every month, and the prices of most major SaaS tools has gotten astronomical.

Maybe I should start by simply writing something in long-form on nostr:npub1048qg5p6kfnpth2l98kq3dffg097tutm4npsz2exygx25ge2k9xqf5x3nf.


Yeah – 100%! The fourth turning concept is definitely real. Humans have a short memory and our OS hasn't been updated meaningfully in 10,000 years.

I hope however that we don't need another great war to spur this fourth turning through to the next cycle. 🤞


Yup – seems to be working.

https://m.primal.net/HScZ.png


The last 20 years on the internet has been a story of “network effects” based on vertical integration & user data lock-in.

I strongly believe the next 20 will be a story of breaking down the walled gardens and of power shifting back to users.

Our laptops and phones are more powerful that the servers that powered the original SaaS companies. Running software (using containers and package managers) has become trivial even for the most newb technical users.

The pendulum is swinging back. It's time to free our data and our workflows from the SaaS prisons.

Open, interoperable, and decentralized networks are the future.


I absolutely love to see posts like this! Artists who are able to earn money from their creations directly. What a revolutionary idea!

Nostr matters, Bitcoin matters. We will win! nostr:note1kf77m82d6c9axuw6ulemmfh9umypmna23wf89wree3pc4xy9rc8qcvddr5


I love morning nostr:npub1t3ggcd843pnwcu6p4tcsesd02t5jx2aelpvusypu5hk0925nhauqjjl5g4

So optimistic. So full of joy. 🚀


GM Nostr! Wtf is #thecasine?!


So cool.


Done.


Right!?! So well done.


Proof that criminals are the most creative bunch around. nostr:note1pagrlfmkzrzdt4fn789sq68ye7e5sapzx7hjngv7mxzlx0ahrscsxddlsk


Madesimo Italy.


First day of the ski season!! ⛷🏔
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https://m.primal.net/HSLc.jpg


Pretty.


Can any of the Japanostriches confirm this?!

nostr:npub137c5pd8gmhhe0njtsgwjgunc5xjr2vmzvglkgqs5sjeh972gqqxqjak37w nostr:npub1e4qg56wvd3ehegd8dm7rlgj8cm998myq0ah8e9t5zeqkg7t7s93q750p76 nostr:npub1mp7fx8wqkjue7rg3zml2fgrsyp5fshc83kcdvewhs9txarf98uuqejtlen ?
https://m.primal.net/HSCw.jpg


😍
https://m.primal.net/HSCK.jpg


This is suuuuper interesting. I’ve always had a ton of respect for the 37signals guys and can’t wait to see what this model looks like.

https://once.com/


Yeah, probably need to update some relays and some dependencies.


I'm seeing most of them still working but one or two do pop up as undefined. I haven't touched the code in ages so I'm not sure what's up there. I'll have a look as soon as I can.


🤯 Looks amazing!


🤣🤣🤣 they wouldn’t even know what that meant if you explained it.


Demo day!! Love it. 🔥


Pretty legendary group right here! 🔥 Can't wait to see what is built over the next few months!

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Safe travels brother!


This is a huge opportunity to join a super talented team building one of the coolest (and most used & useful) products in Bitcoin and Nostr.

nostr:note1yy6spwude8t4npn2wsmqeezz6xznxzsmu20v9335rjyg4nx2fnsq2mlhk0


That’s dangerously close to talking about Bitcoin, no?


🤣 I can’t even…I’m dying.


GM Nostr! First snow of the year down here on the valley floor. ❄

https://v.nostr.build/lxg7.mp4


Fantastic to hear about the progress on the project and congrats on the OpenSats grant! Very well deserved.


Ok - having played with creating GPTs now, I have a more pointed question. What did you to do consolidate/cleanup the files before you uploaded them to the GPT interface?


CORS error on trying to login with email link. What do I need to do to get an account?


Best places to go to learn more about this process?


This is cool! Takes a little while to get responses but so far they've been accurate for me.

How long did this take? I literally have no idea about the process of fine-tuning...


Why not?


Has anyone trained an LLM using the NIPs repository yet?


I would love this.


Damn. That’s awesome.


Ooh looking 🔥 nostr:npub1yul83qxn35u607er3m7039t6rddj06qezfagfqlfw4qk5z5slrfqu8ncdu


Depends a little on the purpose of the labels and whether it’s a closed end set or not. Feel free to DM me if you want to chat through it all.


I would probably just do both.
 nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn thoughts?


Yeah. This too!


It’s not that they are connecting to 100s of relays and pulling down huge quantities of data. They surgically connect and grab or publish a few notes and then disconnect. My guess is that many users will still stay connected with a small number of larger relays but it’s not a requirement and it will be a limiting factor on how big relays need to be.


Sure. Large number of relays doesn’t preclude content creators getting paid. Just means that relays aren’t a dependency in the chain.


I’m not sure that’s totally accurate. If we implement the outbox/gossip model really well I can imagine a world where we have thousands of relatively small relays that are easy and cheap to run but collectively provide all the data needed to all the clients for a multitude of use cases.


😂  can’t wait.


I feel you. So much to do but I can't help but keep starting new projects... 😭


Ahh sorry. The popup is in Listr. If you don’t have a nip 07 extension installed nothing will happen. Try adding Nostore for iOS / safari and you should be good.


Nostr.how is now in Dutch thanks to nostr:npub1qe3e5wrvnsgpggtkytxteaqfprz0rgxr8c3l34kk3a9t7e2l3acslezefe! 🧡

https://nostr.how/nl/get-started


GM! 🌄
https://m.primal.net/HRWU.jpg


Sick!! Is nostrdb out there for other clients to use already?


What browser/platform are you using? Do you get the login pop up asking extension or remote signing?


Yeah there is an NSFW tag but you’re right, for that one I should also publish a 1984 event.


Had kicked the idea around of just allowing free form entry of tags/labels but opted for something more structured to try and make it more universally useful.

Maybe free form should just be an option. 🤔


Yeah. I want to revisit the ui. I think it could be better/faster/ more fun.

Filtering is coming for sure.


This is a really cool idea. I’d already thought about filtering by follows (WoT) but the addition of using AI to try and do a rough job to classification would probably be really good!


No? Any console errors?


Great idea!


Nope. It’s just ontolo created labels. Filtered by a label tag.

I agree with you though. I think it’s very unlikely that depending on good will scale.


Sort of like Disqus.


This is so cool!!!


💯

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Still feels way to complex for most people. Cool idea though.


This should be fixed now. Please let me know if you're still having trouble though.


Should be fixed now. Let me know if you're still having issues.


Yes, definitely will eventually.


GM Nostr. Let's get after it today!


I'm going to be adding that functionality back to Listr (it was in V1) soon. Hopefully this week.


Yeah, sounds like I have a bug there. Someone else reported it over the weekend. I'm going to look into that today.


Coming soon... 😡


What do you say nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6?


Shit. I’m really sorry to hear that. 😢 don’t hesitate to ask for help if you need it.


Where shall we start?


Not that different.


Anyone in Argentina that wants to buy some bitcoin? I need to sell some bitcoin for an ARS transfer via CBU.

Please DM.


Explain…


Why?


Sick!!


Btcpay server and I’ll build a simple e-commerce site myself. Unfair advantage that I’m a developer.


Correct. But that’s unfortunately out of reach for many still.


GM Nostr.

Two things on the docket today.

1. Fix bathroom tiles. We’ve been in our house 10 years. Seems to be the age at which nearly everything starts to break.

2. Help my 10 year old get an e-commerce store set up to sell his designs on shirts and other stuff. Only accepting bitcoin, obviously.


Money transmitter licenses are the biggest surveillance shitcoins around. They basically guarantee monopolistic control of our monetary system.


Still on the todo list. 😬


I’ve been sleeping on nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn's Thank God for Nostr podcast. It’s really really good! It trends a little more techy sometimes, which I love, but the conversations are genuinely good and nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn , you’re a great interviewer. 👏


can you send me the link of the list that you're having trouble with, just in case there's something odd going on with that speicifc list.


You should be able to add wss:// urls to relay lists/sets.

I'll have a look at merge, could definitely have broken something there. 🙈


They currently do allow hashtags, but not bare words, quite yet.


I love this idea but also think it’s going to be completely unusable in practice. 😂


You're welcome!


This looks amazing!


 nostr:npub1lstr2kmdthkgfuzne8e4cn2nhr646x8jt25szdj7t4wr6xemtuuq3lczsj is now updated to support all the recent changes to NIP-51.

- Correct kind numbers and validation on the items that you can add to lists. And yes, you can now add urls, emojis, and tags to lists, not just NIP-19 ids.
- You can create all the various kinds of lists out there.
- I've also added display support for long-form articles, tags, and emoji sets and improved how URLs and relays are displayed in lists. Long-form articles in specific give you title, author, and summary info. 🔥

https://i.nostr.build/BYAD.png


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This is really cool! I love hearing about business ideas like this one that aren't flashy but provide value and earn money. 👏


🫂 Thank you Rockstar! Likewise – thank you for everything you do.


GM Nostr! Happy Thanksgiving! 🦃

Take time today to tell the people that matter how grateful you are for them. 🫂


📣🚢 I've just shipped a super handy tool in nostr:npub1lstr2kmdthkgfuzne8e4cn2nhr646x8jt25szdj7t4wr6xemtuuq3lczsj that allows you to merge content from one list to another. You can also chose to delete the source list once you've merged it's content.

More coming this week:

- Changes related to the recent NIP-51 updates
- Merging content from other people's lists into your own lists
- Following all users from any list in one click

https://image.nostr.build/f4daaa796d362e131be323e32a80b9fa6fbe784c6890f439d51daa5a50fde46b.png


That feeling when you're just about to ship and then your entire environment blows up and you can get the app working at all 😭


All good. We got there in the end.


lol, not a chance.


Feeling better now that I'm back at the keys... 😉


No conozco a nadie en específico de El Salvador que tenga alguna conexión con Bukele.


Cool - and I guess you're paying for the transaction fees? Just trying to better understand the setup. OTS is pretty new to me.


GM Nostr.

I spent the entire morning just trying to renew my italian residence permit that... wait for it... has an expiration date of "illimitata" (unliminted)... 🤔

Hours (and euros) wasted just so that many people being paid by the government could push paper in a circle.


Who knows what would happen if we didn’t have the FBI watching over us (without warrants).

https://www.techdirt.com/2023/11/21/fbi-director-admits-agency-rarely-has-probable-cause-when-it-performs-backdoor-searches-of-nsa-collections/


💯 it’s the only thing that matters. nostr:note1nl0l5l8gfcyzkr45g00mz4d7xx5ypzygulkxf38dd9rzdqvpjvpq49xgaf


Take a look at the rest of the comments on this thread. It’s all legacy.


You should remove it going forward. 😈


Listr will begin enforcing proper order. The party will not be let down. 🫡


I'm going to clear that content from any contact list that I publish in Listr. Breakage be damned. 😆


Entertainment & Sports/News & Current Events


OK cool. Good to know.


I'm seeing a bunch of contact list events (kind: 3) that have relay data stuffed into the content field as JSON. AFAICT, that's not a pattern outlined anywhere in the nips repo... Am I wrong or are there some clients being lazy and not implementing relay lists properly?
 nostr:npub1v0lxxxxutpvrelsksy8cdhgfux9l6a42hsj2qzquu2zk7vc9qnkszrqj49 nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr nostr:npub1ye5ptcxfyyxl5vjvdjar2ua3f0hynkjzpx552mu5snj3qmx5pzjscpknpr


Coming soon...

https://image.nostr.build/42f9e3e5979c3e4c9ce9e098933c86301bf9d39bdf26e442176a0ed8bb9f0cab.png


Yeah, that's a good call out, I think that over time, as the clients get better at allowing us to select relay sets we'll end up in a place where we have different sets for different uses (personal, social, shitposting, work, etc.)


GM Nostr!

Wow. 0xChat has gotten really good since I used it last.


Nice. How are all the votes committed? Do you guys run an aggregation server and then commit votes in big blocks?


It definitely can. I’ve thought about extending Ostrich.work in that direction… just haven’t had the time.


Yeah. Also, wouldn’t let Pete get a word in edgewise on the topic.


😂 spot on.


nostr:npub1w69ya7xs697hk3hky3gllryz8rwverfa0ylz89chf9qnhfcskc2s64zltw I just listened to the recent episode with nostr:npub14mcddvsjsflnhgw7vxykz0ndfqj0rq04v7cjq5nnc95ftld0pv3shcfrlx and I’m surprised and disappointed at how dismissive you are of Nostr. I think you need to take some time to talk to some of us devs who you think are wasting our time on Nostr so that you can better understand it before taking such a strong opinion.


Satya is one of the most badass CEOs in the world right now. Understated, humble, and terrifyingly effective.


That's just two different npubs right? You can create as many npubs as you'd like and use them in any way you want. I have npubs for Listr, Ostrich Work, Ontolo, etc. (basically all my projects).

But, they're just different identities. You can't have two npubs that both resolve to the exact same kind:0 metadata (profile). When you create more than one npub, they are distinct.


Tripling the amount of protein I was getting and adding more strength training to my routine.


🤣 Nailed it.


GM Nostr! A presidential candidate that ran on a platform of throwing away his countries sovereign currency and disbanding the countries central bank has won.

What a time we live in.

It'll be very interesting to see how this plays out. Milei is, by no means, a saint or infallible but I find it encouraging to see that people are fed up with the status quo and are willing to try radical new approaches to improve things.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/argentinas-bitcoin-friendly-presidential-candidate-javier-milei-wins-election


Love these reports! Thanks for putting them together!


Like, use multiple keys at the same time? No.

You can however designate a next key that you can migrate to in the event that you lose control of your current key.


All great films. Going in the queue right now.


Tell me more. I’ve not had any trouble publishing lists but if you can give me a specific list, I’m happy to look into it.


This is the way.
https://m.primal.net/HQgm.jpg


😂😂 this looks hilarious.


Morning Rasha!


Yeah. I’m going to have a look at it all tomorrow morning. Was waiting until the dust settled.


🤣 good point.


GM Nostr. I celebrated thanksgiving yesterday (a bit early, I know). 🦃

Thanksgiving has always been my favorite holiday. For me, it’s all memories of family, good food, falling asleep while watching football with an overly full belly, lively and sometimes intense discussions, and it’s nearly entirely devoid of the consumerism panic of Christmas.

A few things I’m really thankful for this lap around:

- Nostr & Bitcoin. The degree to which I feel like I’ve found my tribe over the last year cannot be overstated. Thanks nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft for confirming I wasn’t crazy (or at least that we’re both crazy 😅)

- Freedom tech. Obviously Nostr & Bitcoin are in this category but more broadly, I’m grateful that there are people who care about building a more free future and are willing to fight for it. I know what I’m working on for the rest of my life. Which is an amazing feeling. Thanks nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx for everything you do.

- So many new friends that have become an important part of my life in a short amount of time. nostr:npub1y67n93njx27lzmg9ua37ce7csvq4awvl6ynfqffzfssvdn7mq9vqlhq62h nostr:npub16vrkgd28wq6n0h77lqgu8h4fdu0eapxgyj0zqq6ngfvjf2vs3nuq5mp2va nostr:npub1zu5tdnq7w63fgmsfz85te7e6zeg7y2lt8q8r9jp5zcg68jfy73jqraqtgz nostr:npub1mygerccwqpzyh9pvp6pv44rskv40zutkfs38t0hqhkvnwlhagp6s3psn5p nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn nostr:npub1t3ggcd843pnwcu6p4tcsesd02t5jx2aelpvusypu5hk0925nhauqjjl5g4 nostr:npub17plqkxhsv66g8quxxc9p5t9mxazzn20m426exqnl8lxnh5a4cdns7jezx0 and so many more (don’t want to start another hell thread)

I haven’t been this bullshit on the future in many years (while also knowing we’ve got some shit to go through on our way). In all cases, I’m here for it.

LFG ❤⚡🫂🚀


You have seen world coin right?


Whoa. Whatever he was holding back on must have been huge. Boards don’t take that sort of nuclear option (especially making the kind of money they are) unless the CEO really really fucked up.

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Holy shit. That’s massive.


5hrs! You should be able to cut that with a banana 😅

Beautiful knife though.


Small town, not big city 🤞

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I love opening large format bottles. 🍷

5 liters for Thanksgiving tomorrow (celebrating early cause it’s not a holiday here in Italy).
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Varies greatly depending on how central your node is. My node is very new and I only have 12 channels open, I also have my fees set about as low as you can go, so consider this a very weak node. I've made 233 sats since Oct 10 in routing fees.


Yes. Just not very many.


None that I’ve made. What makes you think you’re not using it well though?


Yes, and yes! That would be slick!


But I can't zap you here... is your LN address in your Nostr profile?


Wait until you get a lightning wallet set up. ⚡


Its ok. You’re with your people now 😅 https://i.nostr.build/3gGx.jpg


And, to think, for a moment there I was worried Nostr was getting boring. 😅


💯💯 cold exposure has had a significant positive impact on my life.

And it only takes a few minutes and is completely free. nostr:note1rl2zl72rd33k3kesrvrxpzcqkhunk9vs5muladqywxgf9m8crmesym67qv


This one posted. 😅


🤣🤣🤣 well. That’s one solution.


TIL. I had no idea that toggle even existed!


These are fantastic! 🤩 Also, what a sick domain...

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I don't think any client does a great job so far of showing zaps (and zap messages).

Instead of just a stream of zap notifications, I'd love to see a client create a zap report where you could see the zaps you'd received cut by different dimensions (date, size, etc). It would help to reduce the noise of small zapvertising zaps and help you actually see stuff that might be useful.


A valid description of basically all of JavaScript. 😂


Thanks, ran into some odd browser errors (process, it's always process) due to html_sanitize trying to upgrade to vite 5. Going to give insane a try.


Couldn't find anything that wasn't working so let me know if you're still seeing something odd nostr:npub1wmr34t36fy03m8hvgl96zl3znndyzyaqhwmwdtshwmtkg03fetaqhjg240


Yo JS devs, what library, if any, do you use for html sanitization?


Welcome Sean!


Finally, the EU parliament does something that makes sense.

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Voting is supposed to be a proxy for choosing what government does on your behalf but it hasn't worked like that for a long time in the US or Europe. It doesn't matter who you vote for, most change is actually affected by unelected bureaucrats and regulators.

I also don't believe that only the projects that benefit the rich would be funded. All the rich people I know give significantly to projects that they will never feel the benefit of directly (other than the warm fuzzy feeling of contributing). While that's a bit "n of one", I think it's overly simplistic to paint the rich as completely self-serving. Projects would be funded based on their merit. Not based on the ability of some lobbyist to woo and shill their way to getting some provision included.

Transparency would go a long way and yes, I think extreme accountability would also help. But the fact is that politicians and "civil servants" are a parasitic class that doesn't produce anything for society. They exist only because of their ability to steal from our productivity. We could get rid of 99% of it and probably only very temporarily feel any pain or confusion.

I live about 15 minutes from Switzerland so I'm super familiar with the situation there. I think it works as well as it does because 1) it's small enough and well connected enough not to need to meddle in the rest of the world's affairs 2) culturally, they are quite homogeneous and 3) they're rich af, which makes lots of things easier. Agree though that they're in a way better place than the rest of the EU or USA.


Jesus 😳

Another reason not to use WoS.


Me later today...

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Sort of like a Vida style model when you set your floor price and then people can decide whether to take it or not? Definitely could be helpful but given Nostr is such an open system I don't know how you'd enforce such a thing.


Where are you all even seeing these zapvertising notifications that are so annoying? I have to actually go looking to find them.


I'm actually onboard with some government, but you're right, less compulsion, more voluntary engagement. I'm happy to abide by building regs that save lives and I'm happy to pay some tax when it's clear who and what it's used for.

It'd be cool actually if all public works and government projects had to be crowd funded. Each project would get scrutiny and would live or die on it's own merits instead of being snuck in as a rider on page 874 of some completely unrelated 4000 page bill.


Yeah, I'm onboard with that one.

Ok - maybe I believe more of these than I thought 😅


That's 100% true. In small (and not-so-elite) ways I've seen exactly what you're describing. This is just how humans operate.

The problem only arises when you have elites that have such power, wealth, and influence that their reach is truly global in scale. This is one of many reasons that we need to shift power back towards state & local governments. Scope of influence and power usually runs inverse to the level of accountability, which is incredibly dangerous and damaging.


Super interesting. He makes good points but the fundamentalism and imposition of his belief system on everyone is where he basically loses the argument. People are free to choose. Any system that compels adherence is doomed on a long enough timeline.


The CIA killed JFK. Is that even a theory any more though?


Sure – but I actually think ill will accounts for a very small percentage of the bad things that happen in the world. I believe people are mostly good and mostly want to be/do good. "Ill will" or, put more bluntly, hate usually comes from putting good people in terrible situations until they can't take it any more.


I'm not saying that governments and large corporations aren't to blame for many many many bad things in the world. They are. I'm just saying that I don't think it's a small group of people planning those bad things from the top. Central planning doesn't work, in any context.

Also, in most cases, it's not needed. Given shitty incentives and no accountability, the collective will make sure we get terrible outcomes.

Fiat money + bad incentives + no accountability = 💩


Yeah – basically. But also because I don't think there are back rooms with cigar smoking guys planning everything out which, by definition, a conspiracy assumes.

Fiat money + bad incentives + no accountability = 💩


💯 I agree with that, mostly.

I’m just saying that once the thieves are an institution and they hire people to do their work, everyone forgets that they started out as thieves and just strives to “do their job” as best they can, barely ever thinking about whether it’s right. Actually, it’s more likely that they will actively defend the institution because they’re on the inside.

I don’t look at that as a conspiracy, it’s just human software running in a context it was never meant to be run.


I believe in very few conspiracies. Mostly because ineptitude and poor incentives do a sufficiently good job of explaining pretty much everything shitty in the world.

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With great power… 😅


I believe coracle did something like this for a while? nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn ?

I’d actually love a “client” tag like this!


Ah. Yeah that is different from what I meant. That’s a really interesting idea though. 🤔 Is the use case to notify a group of people that you frequently mention together?


Yup. You can even copy their mute list entirely. Problem is that many clients use their own variants of lists for mute…


Of course you can.


Would you be merging your 30000 mute lists to a 10000 list?


Hmm. Not that I know of. Can you send me the naddr of the list and I’ll look into it tomorrow morning?


Just added a simple stats page on Ontolo to show cumulative stats on number of events labeled. Next, I'm thinking of adding in a bit of competition... 😉

https://i.nostr.build/3oJl.png

https://www.ontolo.social/stats


Science & Technology/Internet Technology


🤣 Perfect! I always wanted to know how the internet was made.


Grazie! È stato il mio primo talk in Italiano quindi sono contento che è stato ascotabile per una madrelingua. 😂 Si, Rikki è un po' bearish sul Nostr ma dopo aver passato tempo con lui a Riga e Lugano, penso che anche lui voglia che nostr sia un successo.


GM Nostr. 🌞

A request: Shill me your best/most interesting technical content. Bonus points if it's historical or documentary in nature.

A great example of what I'm looking for is this talk about blameless postmortems through the context of the Three Mile Island nuclear accident (if you haven't watched it, I highly recommend).

https://youtu.be/1xQeXOz0Ncs?si=HbjOrLHJ3eSYbX9z


This resulted in many messages from old colleagues. Apparently, I don't exist unless I'm posting on LinkedIn. 🤣

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Have you listened to you on a podcast before? You're not a one-trick pony by any stretch but, let's just say, if I have a philosophical or ontological question, I know where I'm going first.


😒 haters gonna hate. still, a shame all the same.


Any time! Hope we see you around here more often.


All the good spy tech gets expedited during "emergencies" and always "for our protection".

This was a great talk in Amsterdam and I'm really glad I chance to meet nostr:npub1dg6es53r3hys9tk3n7aldgz4lx4ly8qu4zg468zwyl6smuhjjrvsnhsguz while I was there.

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Yeah, likewise.


Yeah - tradeoffs. Living in a place where the language isn't your mother tongue also makes it harder. Even though I speak Italian well, there is a lot of vocab and ways of expressing certain things that I don't know which makes it harder to have nuanced discussions about hard topics.


Yeah, that's right. The current set were a starting point. I'm going to add a few more now based on feedback too.


Thanks DK!


Going to look into it.


Thank you ser!


This was the hardest part for sure. I couldn't find any ISO standard or anything so I just asked as many friends as possible. Also nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn is a ontology nerd so he was super helpful in working through ideas.


There isn't for now, but you're not the first person to throw out the idea. I'll see what I can do...


Thanks Tigs!


Why does any social network have posts? It's amazingly sticky for the traditional startup and scaleup world.


A company I angel invested in several years ago asked me to. In most of the startup world (especially in sales and marketing), LinkedIn is still a very powerful social network.

Network effects are hard to kill...


Thanks!


🤔

https://m.primal.net/HQEg.png


I just posted for the first time in months on LinkedIn. AMA.

(Yes, I feel a little dirty)


GM Nostr! Thank you everyone for all the wonderful feedback on Ontolo yesterday. I've got a lot to do today!


I feel that pain deeply. It's really hard to find intellectual sparring partners IRL. This is probably why I'm so addicted to Bitcoin & Nostr conferences. It's the one place in my life where people want to engage fully in uncomfortable discussions and push their thinking.

What's strange, though, is that I had so many of these friends (and people in my family) growing up but as I've gotten older, more and more people just intellectually check out. 😞


Yeah. I thought about allowing user input secondary categories. Might still do it.


I feel like that is one area where LLMs or ML models would accel.


Yeah – I'll probably add the ability to add your own subcategory. btw, Bitcoin is under Finance.


Great feedback! Thanks Leo!


Yeah, the categories are the hardest part here for sure. I'll have a think about those categories though as they'd definitely be helpful.


🤣 there's a moratorium on -str names.


😭 We were promised jetpacks and flying cars.


🚨 Today I'm launching Ontolo. 🚀

Ontolo is a super simple micro-app that will hopefully entice everyone spend a bit of time labeling other Nostr events. NIP-32, if you're not familiar, allows anyone to label/review/comment on any nostr post. It's an insanely powerful concept (thanks nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn, who wrote the NIP), but it's still pretty underused in clients.

Why would you want to have labeled events?

1. Discovery: Labeled events can be used directly by social clients–like nostr:npub18m76awca3y37hkvuneavuw6pjj4525fw90necxmadrvjg0sdy6qsngq955 or nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg when trying to suggest content that users might like.
2. Training data: We're at the gates of the era of AI. Classification algorithms and machine learning have been pretty good to classifying content but with a training dataset they can become WAAAAAY better. Hopefully, labels in Nostr will become a public good that all clients can lean on to create their own AI models for discovery, onboarding, and a hundred other things I've not thought of.

This is an experiment, like all of them, so please hit me with your feedback. Expect more fun social features soon. 🫂 LFG!

Thanks to everyone who helped me think through this over the last few days, from Tokyo until now.

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https://www.ontolo.social


Yeah – that's not a bad idea... we need a few keystone projects that have incredible UX (both social and others) and I think we should experiment with that. Has a high chance of backfiring is all...


Reminder, they don't have to be elected or make laws to change how things are done.
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How do we clone nostr:npub1h882a66p0zj5n69s2u8nfzev4f97lzfnlcej84z78p6uqxge5tpqlupz20!? We need so much more of this sort of content in our lives.

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🤣🤣🤣 This is so spot on it's painful.


That's a good call out. From looking at the data on stats.nostr.band, my take is that we've found very strong product market fit in our small starter segment. In my opinion, this is actually far more important than getting big growth at this point. We need to build out A LOT of basic infra before we'll be ready for large numbers of users flowing in.

I guess I just point it out because a lot of people seem to be chomping at the bit to get big user numbers and attract more "normie" users, which I certainly wouldn't be pushing for quite yet.


Philosophy, Religion, Law, & History/Philosophy


Hot take 🔥

Please explain.


The fact that they can pull those numbers at all says all you need to know about their "decentralization".

Unfortunately, most people don't actually want to fix the root cause, they just want a slightly nicer dictator.
 nostr:npub1wmr34t36fy03m8hvgl96zl3znndyzyaqhwmwdtshwmtkg03fetaqhjg240 I'm curious, what do you think is bringing in all those users? Is it really just "discovery"?


GM Nostr! Feeling quiet here lately. I hope everyone is well and recovering from Nostrasia and Nostrville. 🫂


Can the next book just be an autobiography!? This was fantastic, I was in stitches repeatedly. 🤣


💯🙏🔥 nostr:note16s54jqqntuk2lpdwamhaw3cncav9xsf5z054dmvhtkypt4yuu78s3cm8y2


Agree. I wish I could payjoin on every single transaction. nostr:note1rucz7l20nahxkqtzfu4jpql0xnkjcgq0y8qg2degxalz0k78qncs3gpmhw


Like, multiple?! 🤔


If you’re interested in helping to shape or help with the best conference the world has ever seen, please take a moment to fill out the survey.

https://tally.so/r/wo2bBP


More circular economies!!

I think many bitcoiners don’t realize how powerful circular economies are orange pilling efforts. Seeing normal people using bitcoin in normal transactions breaks a lot of FUD and makes people think of bitcoin in new ways. nostr:note1uec9e49ka22rxrxvmpgcgc70sp5v400nukmkvum50nxjwlvw2yhqqspv3g


Yes. This is by design. The reason is that you can’t rename lists without having a D tag that’s unique and doesn’t change. So when you rename an existing list that doesn’t have this unique D tag, I create a new list with a unique D tag and the name/title tag that allows you to give it a name and update that name in the future.

I believe there was a pop up that should have shown when you were about to publish the list.


😅 too many ideas to enumerate here.

nostr:npub19jfsjxx7gtw2t52qepx93ek57fdstfwszct3qqwzns4zxmvsc5gswf8rx0 let me know if there is anything I can do to help or if you just want to jam on ideas sometime.


Agree! There are some really great channels for general svelte stuff.


That last sentence is the thing that worries me the most about everything we're trying to build. People are fundamentally super lazy and more than happy to trade their freedom so they don't have to think or do work.

Are we doomed to always be building for the niche that will do the work?


Thanks Luke! I actaully have a dev mode setting that hides kinds in most places, but I forgot that dropdown. I'll sort that soon.


One of the best parts!


Ahh, it's a firefox issue. I get the same in snort and other clients.


This is what it looks like on Primal web. works find on mobile.

https://m.primal.net/HPoi.png


My brother shared this link with me and it actually made me think....

On one hand, this personal clip on AI device is creepy af, and will definitely result in some Black Mirror like situations.

On the other hand, the phone certainly won't be our last computing interface. We're getting closer to a new paradigm in how we interact with the digital world. I'm not sure what that will look like but it's likely a combo of AR and voice, all seamlessly backed by LLMs.

This product looks like a legit (and very creative) step forward, I'd be excited to try it out under one of two conditions.

1. We figure out how to properly do data privacy/sovereignty at scale.
2. We get better governments.

Unfortunately, I'm fairly sure that number 2 is off the table until a catastrophe forces it. So let's talk about number 1.

Part of why I'm so bullish on and committed to #Nostr and freedom tech more broadly is that I really want crazy future technology. I want an AI assistant that goes through my entire life with me, helping to do more, and do it better. BUT, I'm not willing to trade my freedom for it. And in my mind, the only way to get those things while still retaining our freedom is to build a system where it's physically not possible for companies, governments, or anyone else to take our data from us unless we consent.

This is a radical shift from the "cloudify everything" world we live in now. Most people don't care enough to bother. Most governments and regulators are too stupid to understand the nuances or too crooked to care.

That's ok. We're going to win anyway. To borrow a phrase, freedom finds a way. We've might have a fourth turning to get through first but we'll get there. And it's going to be fucking awesome when we get there!

Until then, stay humble & stack sats.

https://hu.ma.ne/aipin


Interesting. I can see it here on mobile but wasn’t seeing it on nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg web. Must be their issue?


that's trippy af. 😂

well done. I remember trying to learn blender a while back and, yea, it was super hard!


Max – the video looks to have been deleted from nostr.build!?


Whenever I'm feeling down I'm just going to come back and read this comment to FinCen again. 🤣

Concise, articulate, intelligent, real. Everything that our politicians and bureaucrats aren't. Whoever it was that wrote this, I salute you. 🫡

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oh no, i failed. 😭

though... the shitposting is valuable too.


He’s a gentleman. One of the few remaining.


Hahaha. Want!


Love seeing everyone living their best lives at #nostrville. Sad to not be there but c’est la vie.

Enjoy the hugs, zaps, and nips everyone! 🫂


LFG! 🔥

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I'm really missing that mild Tokyo weather this week. 🥶

I usually love the transition to colder temps in the late autumn but going from t-shirts to multiple layers overnight was a bit too much.


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Yes please!


Yes, nearly always leads to conference burnout though...


Enjoy the trip! It was great to meet in Tokyo. When you're back home let's catch up and talk more about lists.


Reply, zap, repost, like. I probably should have been more clear.


Absolutely! Can't wait for our next insane club adventure! 🤣


😂 It’s just a matter of balance on the larger scale as you said. I can only pull that level of energy out for a few days and then have to retreat to the mountains to recover.


LFG! Can’t was hear it!


Hi Frank!


I know the feeling. 😅


Absolutely stunning.


Love to see it!


nostr:npub1ye5ptcxfyyxl5vjvdjar2ua3f0hynkjzpx552mu5snj3qmx5pzjscpknpr when do we get actions in the notifications feed on nostrudel?


A simpler time. 😊


😳 really crazy to think about that moment. Being the person that pulled the trigger. Being the people just going about their day down below.