The US just recommended a 30-year prison sentence for alleged Bitcoin Fog operator Roman Sterlingov.

Sterlingov's case became known as the case to "put cryptocurrency tracing on trial", as much of the evidence presented was collected using Chainalysis' blockchain analysis software Reactor – The prosecution "haven’t pointed to any smoking-gun digital evidence retrieved from Sterlingov’s possessions or devices", as WIRED reported following Sterlingov's arrest.

Chainalysis described Sterlingov's guilty verdict as setting precedent for "Chainalysis blockchain analytics being used by prosecutors as evidence when they take criminals to court", arguing that the verdict "affirms the ways in which our solutions have become the industry standard, made possible by our partners in government who use our tools everyday to fight illicit activity".

The only problem: experts believe that the government's got the wrong guy, and that the jury has convicted a user of Bitcoin Fog as its operator – arguing that Chainalysis' tools are "flawed" and "shouldn't be trusted to convict defendants when they face decades in prison".

2024 is the year of dangerous precedents in which not just your right to privacy is on the line, but the very question of how much science matters in a court of law when it comes to BTC.

All the tea:

https://www.therage.co/bitcoin-fog-sentencing/


This is insanity. Guess I'll take it as a warning to back up everything I can from my npub as soon as possible.


Nothing is so healing as the human touch. Bobby Fischer, American chess player (1943–2008)


Yup 📈


I finally started using a laptop for nostr recently too and wow do devs sure support it better


I made the only current nostr wiki articles for dogecoin and monero, but I made the dogecoin one first 😶🌫


Dogecoin will arrive when the nostr community needs it most, I assure you


We'll see how that works out. Piracy hasn't been stopped, there's a great quality Deadpool & Wolverine TSrip out already


Can't believe that's still happening


Hope you're staying strong. It gets easier


But the change I wish to see in the world is more people wishing they could talk to Digit which means I should increase suffering and make it clear to people that Digit being gone is why I'm making them suffer


We need more clients with proof of work filters


BRANDING IRON


This is Bitcoin? I've seen people using it but I thought it was something else


Probably still Fight Club


Is this a joke or are you snapping mentally


My granny used to say,
"He who does not honor the small is not worthy of the great"


But the internet and cell phones are actually stupid, and so far people only like text messaging on stupid platforms. Will patience show people being smart?


So dollar milkshake theory backfired and we're getting yen milkshake theory now. That's fucking funny. 🗾

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Not sure if there are services like redirect.invidious.io for other frontends like redlib


I just provide both links when I can, or I use a redirect.invidious.io link since they offer official YouTube as one of the redirect options


Build it and they will come 💯


You can get around this by replacing the www.reddit.com part with a redlib instance like redlib.vimmer.dev

https://wikifreedia.xyz/redlib


I worry about digit all the time but that's light punishment for being a devil I guess.


This is the first post I've seen from you and it sounds like you lost someone. I'm so sorry.


This checks out. Digit is a good name and I remember


Cattle die.
Kindred die.
Every man is mortal.
But the good name never dies of one who has done well.

—From the Norse poem "The Speech of the High One"


Maduro says he can't show the true election result because  elon musk hacked the National Electoral Council of Venezuela

https://video.nostr.build/7af651866bb6f6c318590f5ced6e4991ccd0330846753cdbc4838af316f989a2.mp4

#plebs
#plebchain


Imagine calling yourself a "head of state" but being a mere plebeian serving at the whims of lord Elon


Idk, it's a joy to read j pow's facial expressions as long as I'm not gambling on the economic impacts of his thoughts at the time.

We just happen to currently have a pretty entertaining casino manager imo


I shamefully enjoy that bot tbh. It's so ridiculous. Idek if it's really a bot


Found this cassette tape on a wall.
Anyone now what it says?
#asknostr

https://image.nostr.build/432299747fbb8a2b9346d6ecd0537e114bfae94b4b8386e4ae812ea244e50d02.jpg

Gonna dig out my tape player at some point and listen to it. Maybe I'll make it a hivetalk listening party lol (I'll probably never work out how to do that on hivetalk so unlikely to happen fyi)

#listeningparty


Nintendo's investors would be best served by Nintendo buying 8bitdo right now - not that I care much


I don't see any point for Nintendo to release a real follow-up to the Switch. It's about time for them to switch to being a company that makes games and peripherals while everyone switches from consoles to PC and phones. They'll probably try to milk one more generation out of consoles anyway


Digit disappeared a year ago. I can't even take this during the day now. I've been so scared for so long. If she's not alive, someone please kill me before I find out


This npub is pretty heavily compromised with the number of different apps I've entered the nsec into at this point. Not sure if or when that will become an issue. Hopefully there will be more secure nostr logins with key rotation soon enough


whoeverlovesDigit

Digit is Digit. I love her. I knew her online from wallstreetbets and she disappeared and there are scary rumors about her. I need proof she's safe. I can't stop lashing out in this mental state and I'm sorry for the abusive behavior to anyone who doesn't deserve it.


I was talking about a different Bitcoin talk actually


In that case thanks for trying here instead of X


Zaps forwarded to nostr:npub1a2cww4kn9wqte4ry70vyfwqyqvpswksna27rtxd8vty6c74era8sdcw83a for her reporting on the event since I don't really use lightning


Digit showed me Razzlekhan's rap music. A song called Versace Bedouin. I said the rap style reminded me of Lil B's zero effort style which is legit. Digit seemed to like that comparison


X tier meme


At the conference, RFK Jr said he hoped Trump would announce a plan to "buy" Bitcoin for a national reserve.

What Trump ended up saying about the national reserve was "never sell your Bitcoin."

Neither of them said "exchanging currency" instead of "buying" or "selling."

They both used terms like "valuation" instead of "exchange rate." Politicians cannot fathom fully recognizing the legitimacy of cryptocurrency. Their system would fall apart.

What neither of these politicians can deny is the strength of Bitcoin as an investment. Trump openly predicted Bitcoin would surpass the market cap of silver, and potentially someday gold.

#gm #gfy


There do be a pandemic tho


That would be fucking insane if Sirhan Sirhan is on nostr

Btw do you have proof Sirhan Sirhan is guilty of anything but being picked as a scapegoat for a deep state op?


RFK jr ain’t no bitcoiner man. He’s just a bit smarter and his talking points are more polished. They’re both Zionist scumbags. Both can fuck off.  Bitcoin doesn’t need any of them.


I don’t think Trump’s team realized how important this speech was.

For many people, it was their first time listening to a full speech from Trump.

This wasn’t just another speech. Sadly, his team treated it like any other speech.

Missed opportunity.

RFK seems to be the real bitcoiner


It's a setback but also an inevitable one so basically just a setnowhere?


Fuck this. I’m getting a grilled cheese.


For the "reserve asset" rumor, Trump merely announced in his speech that he wouldn't keep selling America's existing 200,000+ seized coins and would instead retain them.

In interviews over the past week and in my recent report, that's the lowest hanging fruit that I pointed toward.

https://m.primal.net/JgUp.png


PSA https://video.nostr.build/e4f6325bb892ec6d38f505f7227a06b83aef07a7b39604a438cf044ea4675bd3.mp4


This is the most level headed post I've seen about it. Respec


"Have a good time with your election, your news cameras, and anything else that you're playing with mr president"


I've preferred dogecoin for like 10 years


micro homesteading, LoRa mesh networks, packet radio.


Write in "honey badger"


The right to grow food becomes the right to take someone else's food when encroached, imo


Shamelessly self inserting my bingo card in replies of a few related posts before Trump talks

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But if you have the right to eat that implies some right to food

And the right to breathe implies a right to a clean atmosphere


I don't know quite enough but the idea does remind me of Monero's stealth addresses which I recently learned about (or relearned? idk)


It sure is sus and fucked up that so many #nostr clients have implemented muting/filtering users, akin to "blocking" on X, instead of auto-replies.

Meanwhile, I don't even know of ONE that has implemented auto-replies, one of the most clutch innovations offered with the concept of uncensored social media.

Nostr devs are apparently about as mentally ill as Jack Dorsey - seeing intellectual discussion as a waste of time and preferring delusions, rather than vice versa.

Has anyone here other than me fantasized before about what it will be like to have an uncensored social media platform with an intricate, in-depth auto-reply system?

My gangstalkers love calling me a "convicted felon" and that's one thing they can't do very much on nostr if they come here, because it could lead to implementation of a trigger-word-based auto-reply system so I can instantly hit every example with:

> Your reply contains the term "convicted felon." Whoever loves Digit has tried and, as of 1722077367, failed to achieve any felony conviction in any jurisdiction. The label "convicted felon" has nonetheless been a popular one for gangstalkers to incorrectly apply.

If someone keeps using the same npub to troll me, I can create an npub-triggered auto-reply that links to the last time I replied by hand, illuminating any points or questions they ignored to make me stop replying.

If I start getting a large audience and the harassment goes from a few gangstalkers to a spam farm putting out new npubs and new phrasing faster than I can keep up - that would be time for kind 0, spam-filter-based auto-replies. These would say "I probably won't see your post, or reply back to it, because I get harassed so much, I've found it necessary to filter my replies to x-or-higher web of trust score" or "to filter my replies to y-or-higher proof of work" or something like that. These would need to be implemented in kind 0, where your client can use the list to post replies on relays, and other clients can use the list to display replies that aren't on relays - this way if you're getting spammed so heavily that you can't get all your auto-replies past rate-limiting, at least standard-compliant clients will still show all of them.

Despite not being implemented, each of these possibilities helps prevent these types of malicious behavior. Gangstalkers are repelled by these possibilities, even as mere possibilities, because they don't want to attract higher levels of prevention and retaliation to their malicious behavior. I'm pretty sure the reason my gangstalkers aren't on nostr is because they know they can't beat me anymore. Most of them have probably moved onto softer targets and the ones that still think about me aren't gonna find a way to stop me other than killing me. They can't use the current lack of auto-replies because I can afford to pay devs to get auto-replies implemented so the best pathway to maximum mental illness is leaving me alone and focusing on softer targets to delay the implementation of auto-replies. They sure as fuck can't get much use out of this nostr place for purposes of gangstalking and harassment once there is a robust implementation of auto-replies. It would be so hard to find targets "soft" enough on a platform with auto-replies. It becomes the polar opposite of platforms like reddit where censorship is used to enforce maximum mental illness.


Feel free to steal, especially for reddit (I'm way too banned from reddit)

#Trump #Nashville2024 #btc2024 #Bitcoin #MAGA #memes

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Periodic reminder that there is a reason why nearly all phones have GPS and non removable batteries

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SAME WAY AS ANY PLATFORM

DON'T TYPE ANYTHING INTO A DEVICE THAT MIGHT LEAK THE DATA

IF YOU ARE TYPING THINGS ON UNSECURE DEVICES, YOUR TEXT CAN FEED AI

IF YOU ARE TYPING POSTS AND PUBLICLY POSTING THEM, YOUR TEXT CAN FEED AI


You don't have to do that, you just have to check if all the coins on the network seem real, I think

If the latest block in the blockchain checks out cryptographically, the transactions have to check out because of smart people math, by my understanding


If you think about, the entire human race is under mass psychosis. We accept lies in the form of advertising as long as it’s agreed upon that this is ok. If we understand the lie, then it’s fine. Mass delusion, insanity, call it whatever you like but we have issues …


Yay


To be fair, that's the point


I'm starting to think ppl on fedi are more retarded than redditors


Come join nostr


Wouldn't it be better to live in gun central and have lots of hurricanes


Why wouldn't it be? 🤔


I can't believe my X account still isn't perma-banned. Wonder if that will last


A separate git project? There are 2? Fuckin lit 👍


Fun fact: if your devices don't have GMT as an option (because Greenwich actually uses daylight savings time) then you can set the time zone to Liberia (or the biggest city Monrovia). They use GMT

I have mine set this way


If you want to take a little creative liberty with the wording maybe something like this, but either way it’s good 😂🤙

https://m.primal.net/JfWQ.jpg


⛳ https://v.nostr.build/zGmhA2kRifGFP0sD.mp4


A woman in Illinois killed herself for the meme by twerking on a power substation and I can't find her name or anything

Take my opinion with a grain of salt, I didn't know her - maybe she requested privacy in her final days

As a paranoid random Internet person, I fear her social media has been wiped and there's no way to find out her story, and I wonder if maybe she wanted people to know about her, rather than privacy

What she did would seem like a way to get some attention and make some people think about what happened to you - I fear her attention seeking behavior has done nothing but waste her life as the world around her did not care about her enough to make sure she'd be remembered as more than "twerk suicide girl"

The societal trend making me so uneasy about this is that we're supposed to believe she was just drunk and people are just MAGICALLY getting dumber, or the stupid behavior is just a result of overpopulation, and we're not supposed to let any of society's victims make us think too much about what happens to them


A wizard is never late lil broski


I mean I still can't post "illegal" content because nostr is designed for censorship but at least I can talk while being a Monero user


Learning something from first principles and really internalizing that knowledge is one of life's great joys.


 nostr:npub10vlhsqm4qar0g42p8g3plqyktmktd8hnprew45w638xzezgja95qapsp42 is keeping it real at the #btc2024 #bitcoin
https://video.nostr.build/15df140760b6fb5f7c31ae089badded4556a9a13fc8c5b949c75e1a0fbe1a9f9.mp4


Nostr has advice like this on it now, we really made it


I'd sell that as the main feature then

Not the privacy stuff, but trying to promote a high quality, open discussion environment

A solution to the dilemma certain people have with "I want people to have free speech, but it's hard to deal with every thought everyone has, so I want a platform that limits discussion based on quality"


If you set your NIP-05 to be your X username at x dot com and then just wait for it to actually work someday, you can be the earliest adopter of "tostr"

I don't know how long it will take but it will work someday

https://wikifreedia.xyz/tostr/npub1wamvxt2tr50ghu4fdw47ksadnt0p277nv0vfhplmv0n0z3243zyq26u3l2


Getting ready for old age with maximum difficulty bingo 😎


I'm not sure if this is true. I would bet there's some overlap in the codebase. If so, I'd say when you redesign a whole codebase and use some of it as it was originally, that still counts as a fork.


Same. The only reason I'll be watching Trump's whole talk is to see how my bingo card turns out

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But nostr has multiple blockchains implemented in multiple ways...

There's fully-implemented blockchain based time-stamping for when you want to make extra sure you can prove when you posted something

There's garnet with its built in Monero wallet

Idk what else


1 sat for every message is expensive enough to suppress legitimate users who are just financially poor. Needs to be about an order of magnitude cheaper imo. A spam filter cheap enough to let all legitimate users through might also let the most dedicated spammers get some stuff through too, but that's the right balance


Good self-description. Nice to have some idea of who you are now since I see you around here 🤙 didn't quite see all the pieces of the story before


"Source-available" is bare minimum of what Satoshi was talking about

"Open source" is better because it means open licensing in addition to publishing the code


These charts also don't conveniently indicate percentage 🤔


I'm so used to BTC layer 2 being sus, I forgot there's nothing inherently cryptographically wrong with the concept of a layer 2


Notice how that site doesn't even have a BTC/DOGE chart...

They only show it as DOGE/BTC

https://m.primal.net/JfIN.png


The year is 2040. Hawk Tuah Girl has just won the New England Presidential Election as a write-in candidate while ruling over the United States of South America as supreme empress


Yeah it's cool that nostr's censorship resistance has reached the point where even Monero folks can talk without being censored by the Bitcoin maxis that created nostr


For example:

Cope lol


Being open source means anyone can independently review the code.  If it was closed source, nobody could verify the security.  I think it's essential for a program of this nature to be open source.


Accepting XMR as payment is cool but using cryptocurrency for the vast majority of the company treasury is what's actually needed


A man might not understand that being in the lift makes a difference because women seem to feel trapped by the need to choose a response every time they get hit on anywhere at all


Not without knowing if digit is safe. Best I can do is wish you an anxious birthday where what you're anxious about turns out good in the end


To be clear on what my last reply means: having BTC as your only payment method means you're probably not getting my money

If someone is wasting a lot of the money they receive on bitcoin transaction fees by having no other wallet address, they clearly have more than enough money & don't need mine


No lol nothing forces me to give money to anyone

I don't even file taxes, let alone feel pressured to share with every wallet address I see


I don't understand the point of this meme

Are the poors infighting again?


USD

It had secure online credit card payment forms using cryptography on Amazon or whatever before Bitcoin, I bet

And before "crypto folks" meant Bitcoin traders, it meant spies. USD is the currency of the deep state. The US has a huge spying apparatus worldwide funded by USD, and American spies do coups in foreign countries and stuff to prop up USD and keep American control over oil to power the "petrodollar"

USD was the original "crypto-currency"

I'm suffering deeply as I type all this


I'd say it kinda is. It's like decentralized censorship if that makes sense. I think it's part of why it's so essential for humans to have others we can trust

Makes me think of the term "Overton window" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window


Former friends, even


Please try not to feel that ashamed. Imagine how you'd feel reading these words from a loved one after they're gone and you're going through old posts to remember them 🤙


I don't think any of these fully cover details of transactions to begin with, they just require parallel construction to use the information until society collapses enough to unleash databases with less limitation


No other major issues I'm aware of people talking about except the inability to install alongside Amethyst. Hopefully that's fixed by the next version


Good job, you done now?


Idk


me as a pandemic-aware nerd approving of the mask 🤝 me as a privacy-aware anarchist approving of the mask


I don't understand how it doesn't force people to use a nostr client if it is nostr based; wouldn't it be a nostr client itself?

Is it that you're avoiding websockets / JavaScript for the UI?


This is probably cool for everyone who isn't me, but it reminds me of the terror of seeing someone pursuing self-erasure at too deep of a level based on insecurity and self-hate

I wish I could remember everyone I've ever talked to, without electronic assistance


It's thunding outside


Deglobalization is needed https://image.nostr.build/89ddb1666eed7b7d6a1531e130af11e9054997965c5ff007a10bfddb77c10c4d.jpg


Nips are good 👍


ditto.pub says this is sensitive content lol

https://image.nostr.build/d94433035cc032e074ccdcc495bf08a6384bdedbf80b605c779623f6f76a18d5.png


Who cares?

Also, everything about this webpage would work fine in HTML without JavaScript so why did it make me turn on JavaScript to load it?


Help, I accidentally a unicode
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⣿⡄⠀⠀⣠⣾⠛⣿⠛⣷⠀⠿⣦
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⠀⣸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣾⠿⠋⠁
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How many American missile factories are in Gaza?

How many American Presidents live in Gaza?

How many oil company CEOs live in Gaza?

What targets are you sending me there to fight, captain?


I blame NASA. They had women building computers and being computers while hiring men to be programmers. That can't be about reproductive evolution as I'm supposed to believe. Someone did something to the 'conomy


You ever been to Gaza?


There is still a pandemic tbh


and whose fault is that?


I can't see this post what does it say


You might like these songs

Spose - Andrew Jackson https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=TEgAd8fDcc4

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TEgAd8fDcc4

Muja Messiah - Pocket Full Of Slave Owners https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=K_EdSiz6KSg

https://youtube.com/watch?v=K_EdSiz6KSg


Fitting post while solar flares are bombarding #btc2024 (with the geomagnetic field mostly protecting people)


Add mine to your next zaps for anyone 🙏

Or feel free to download and post the image from your own npub so the post can get zapped 🤙


I made a bingo card for Trump's #Nashville talk 🤔
 https://image.nostr.build/d1e4c35efd59b7736e5adbab16b20464a553dd6dcf885689ab364a2f99824908.png

Posting here before anywhere else


The **[[Bitcoin wallet]] by [[Andreas Schildbach]]** is a maintained [[software fork]], for [[Android OS]], of the original [[Bitcoin wallet]] (known as [[Bitcoin core]]).

Website: [wallet.schildbach.de](https://wallet.schildbach.de/)


This is a list of software-based cryptocurrency wallets. Hardware wallets go to the [[hardware wallet list]].

*See main page [[cryptocurrency wallet]] for more information, including safety tips / best practices*

# Platforms

Using a software-based wallet obviously requires a separate platform for the wallet to run on, since software can't run on its own. Your choice of platform is important.

Platforms supported natively are not listed for each wallet in this wiki entry because some platforms have such awful native support, it can be better to use virtualization or emulators anyway. This is still not ideal, and in the future (when there are better mobile wallets available) this page should be updated to show which platforms are supported by each wallet, in order to help people avoid continuing to use virtualization or emulators at that time.

## Recommended platforms

### Hardware wallets

*Main article: [[hardware wallet]]*

Dedicated hardware wallets, the supreme solution, also have software - generally crafted specifically for the wallet itself. The software crafted for specific hardware wallets is not listed here; this list is for software-focused wallet projects (for use cases where dedicated hardware isn't an option). See [[hardware wallet list]] if you're looking for dedicated hardware.

### Android

[[Android OS]] is a mobile variant of [[Linux]] that isn't natively compatible with all of the same software packages as desktop Linux variants, and doesn't have much good software natively supporting it, which sucks since it's the best choice for mobile devices and people need mobile wallets. At least desktop Linux packages work well with virtualization or emulators such as [[box86|Box64]] on Android.

Android devices are custom-made to run Android, making them their own hardware category. This hardware category is likely even more prone to [[backdoor-vulnerability|backdoors]] than hardware used for desktop Linux and [[berkeley-software-distribution|BSD]].

### Desktop Linux

Desktop (and laptop, etc) [[Linux]] is the most popular and well-supported platform in cryptocurrency. However, the project lead, [[Linus Benedict Torvalds]], has publicly opposed cryptocurrency, suggesting it is a [[Ponzi scheme]].

### BSD

The [[Berkeley Software Distribution]] isn't as popular or well-supported natively as Linux, but versions of it (mainly [[OpenBSD]], [[FreeBSD]], and of course [[HardenedBSD]]) are preferred by some users for security purposes.

### Old game consoles

Old game consoles do not have any known wallets natively available, but are an ideal category of hardware to host software-based wallets. Many old game consoles were simply minimal personal computers with no OS or storage, made to load and run pure binary code from removable media. They are also widespread enough to be easily obtained, and well-supported by community efforts, including extensive reverse-engineering (akin to security auditing) by gamers working on emulators and other related projects. Many of these systems are also powerful enough to handle cryptographic functions easily; the [[Nintendo 64]] and the [[PlayStation 1]] can even both run Linux (with that being modern, up-to-date 64-bit Linux in the Nintendo 64's case, as the name implies - in fact, it's actually officially supported in the mainline [[Linux kernel]]).

Some systems even have the ability to swap the removable media while running, without resetting RAM, which could be helpful for [[multisig wallet]] support. All game systems also accept user input in uniform ways, making user-entered wallet seeds easy to implement, which would be helpful for ensuring randomness and helpful when using a [[brain wallet]]. Based on all of this, it could be a good idea to make and use air-gapped wallets which use old game systems to sign signatures.

## Others (not recommended)

Platforms not listed here will generally have worse security, either due to being closed-source proprietary malware, or being smaller projects with less attention/support. For example, there are many vintage computers which are not game systems, and some of them are considered useful in cybersecurity because they predate certain spyware measures, but few individual models have the same widespread availability and reverse-engineering effort as old game consoles.

In case you're stuck on a different platform, such as Windows or Mac or iPhone, some of the options listed on this page still natively support other platforms, and you may also have virtualization or emulators available.

If another cool platform, such as [[Haiku OS]], rises up with enough widespread adoption and security auditing, then such a platform should be added to the list of recommended platforms in this wiki entry.

# Wallets

Try to judge every wallet for yourself and do your own research, not merely trust what this page says. If a wallet isn't listed here, you might have no choice but to figure out where you'd place it yourself anyway.

# Good wallets

Fully [[open source]] wallets make the entire source code available for unrestricted non-commercial use (often going as far as unrestricted commercial use too). This is the best approach, mainly because it helps drive adoption, security auditing, and bug fixes, among other reasons.

This list should be used for wallets which don't have any major known red flags against using them, such as proprietary source code or other issues.

## Recommended list

| Wiki page | Code repository (see also: [[GotHub]] • [[GotHub list]]) | License |
| -------- | ------- | ------- |
| [[Dogecoin Core]] | [GotHub](https://gh.owo.si/dogecoin/dogecoin) ([readme](https://gh.owo.si/dogecoin/dogecoin/blob/master/README.md)) | [[MIT License]] |
| [[Bitcoin Core]] | [GotHub](https://gh.owo.si/bitcoin/bitcoin) ([readme](https://gh.owo.si/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/README.md)) | [[MIT License]] |
| [[Monero GUI Wallet]] | [GotHub](https://gh.owo.si/monero-project/monero-gui) ([readme](https://gh.owo.si/monero-project/monero-gui/blob/master/README.md)) | [Custom](https://gh.owo.si/monero-project/monero-gui/blob/master/LICENSE) |
| [[Monero CLI Wallet]] | [GotHub](https://gh.owo.si/monero-project/monero) ([readme](https://gh.owo.si/monero-project/monero/blob/master/README.md)) | [Custom](https://gh.owo.si/monero-project/monero/blob/master/LICENSE) |
| [[Schildbach Bitcoin Wallet]] | [GotHub](https://gh.owo.si/bitcoin-wallet/bitcoin-wallet) ([readme](https://gh.owo.si/bitcoin-wallet/bitcoin-wallet/blob/main/README.md)) | Uses parts with different open source licenses |

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# Bad but potentially useful wallets

These may include [[source-available]] wallets, which make the entire source code available with tight restrictions on how it can be used (at least allowing individual users to locally compile their own wallets from source).

This list can also include wallets which publish source code under an open-source license, but don't properly adhere to open-source principles. There may also be other red flags making them untrustworthy.

All examples on this list should at least publish full source code (which is at least a transparent practice for the sake of security auditing and such).

These examples should still be avoided, but have specific cases where people may find it justifiable to use them.

## Unsafe, avoid if possible

| Wiki page | Summary | Code repository |
| -------- | ------- | --------- |
| [[CoinSpace Coin Wallet]] | Published binary does not match published source code. May be useful on a mobile device for its multi-coin support until something better is available. | [GotHub](https://gh.owo.si/CoinSpace/CoinSpace) |
| [[AirGap Vault]] | Excludes dogecoin from multi coin support; excludes Monero despite sufficient funding to handle its complexity; published binary does not match published source code; source code releases delayed after binary releases; also other suspicious behavior. If you run it on an emulator on an air-gapped device deep in a cave, with full disk encryption and a strong password, and nobody else knowing the location of the cave, and nobody else easily being able to access the cave, and nobody else being easily able to find the device when in the cave, and no electronic devices being brought into the cave, and all data being transferred with an old non-digital polaroid camera or something, then it might be one of the safest choices available for the small demographic of people whose available hardware choices exclude a [[hardware wallet]], yet include a non-digital camera and an air-gapped Android emulator in a secret cave. | [GotHub](https://gh.owo.si/airgap-it/airgap-vault) |
| [[Edge Wallet]] | Published binary does not match published source code; also address reuse and other bad privacy practices. May be useful on a mobile device for its multi-coin support until something better is available. | [GotHub](https://gh.owo.si/EdgeApp) |

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# Worthless scam trash

*See also: [[software trojan]] • [[backdoor vulnerability]]*

Malicious closed-source wallets keep some of their source code secret so that you don't know what they're doing with your data. Some of these wallets call themselves "open source," but aren't. They sometimes have shady practices like delaying source code releases until after binary updates, instead of vice-versa. In some cases, the data they expose to risk includes the actual keys to your wallet, i.e. your actual money.

**If your money ends up in such wallets: *"not your keys, not your coins."***

Wallets can also be untrustworthy for other reasons, such as dishonest marketing or "Know Your Customer" (KYC) malware.

## Do Not Use

| Wiki page | Major red flags |
| ------- | ------- |
| [[Trust Wallet]] | **NO SOURCE CODE** and exclusion of Monero despite sufficient funding to handle its complexity |
| [[Unstoppable Wallet]] | Excludes dogecoin from multi coin support; exclusion of Monero despite sufficient funding to handle its complexity; dishonest marketing about privacy |
| [[Coinbase Wallet]] | **NO SOURCE CODE** and exclusion of Monero despite sufficient funding to handle its complexity |
| [[Cake Wallet]] | Source code sus (doesn't reliably build at all) according to [walletscrutiny.com/android/com.cakewallet.cake_wallet/](https://walletscrutiny.com/android/com.cakewallet.cake_wallet/) |
| [[Robinhood Wallet]] | **NO SOURCE CODE** and exclusion of Monero despite sufficient funding to handle its complexity |


*See also: [[cryptocurrency wallet]] • [[crypto wallet apps]]*

# Fully open source

What does "fully open source" even mean in the context of hardware?

Wiki entry "under construction" until we can all figure this out.

If you're looking for a recommendation, [[Trezor]]'s stuff is good enough until this page is figured out (not paid or asked to say so). Nostr users also seem to love this DIY shit called [[SeedSigner]]. Everyone seems to agree both of these examples are "open source" but why?


A **bitcoin wallet** is a [[cryptocurrency wallet]] that supports the grandmother of all cryptocurrencies: [[Bitcoin]].

The original Bitcoin wallet was part of the Bitcoin reference implementation originally developed and released by [[Satoshi Nakamoto]]. All cryptocurrency wallets are derived in some way from that historic first Bitcoin wallet.


*See also: [[buying and selling cryptocurrency]] • [[cryptocurrency exchange]] • [[so-called free cryptocurrency]]*

# Cryptocurrency

[[Cryptography]] + [[currency]] = **cryptocurrency**, a **currency** based on **crypto**graphic functions. It's an experimental category of network technologies, with many different prototypes competing to see which networks can gain widespread adoption and continue working perpetually.

The grandmother of all cryptocurrency is [[Satoshi Nakamoto]]'s [[Bitcoin]], an actual currency which can only be transferred using [[public-key-cryptography|cryptographic keypair]] signatures. Many major cryptocurrencies have been created to try different ways this concept can work; these include [[dogecoin|doggie coin]], [[Monero]], [[Ethereum Classic]], and many others. There are also many bad-faith efforts, which are not legitimately designed to explore new functionality, but are instead conceived for purposes of deception, distraction, scamming, etc.

# Proof of work, the typical method of minting tokens

*Main article: [[proof of work]]*

[[HashCash]], for email systems, is an example of an ancient ancestor to cryptocurrency; not an actual currency, but more like (still not exactly) an easy password which just takes some time for a computer to guess, as a way of limiting spam bots without requiring a human to deal with a [[captcha]]. This method of granting access can be referred to as a "[[proof-of-work]] token," an access-granting token generated by proving completion of a task. The same term, "proof-of-work token," also applies in roughly the same way to proof-of-work cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin, which go the rest of the way to being currencies by being fully transferrable. Proof-of-work cryptocurrency tokens are initially generated by the much larger task of finding entries to add to a [[blockchain]] with valid verifications of signatures for pending transfers.

# UTXOs, the typical method of making transactions

*Main article: [[UTXO]]*

In the case of the original Bitcoin cryptocurrency, each token generated by completing proof-of-work can be transferred by splitting it up into smaller pieces and telling the network what positions to place each new smaller piece at. Each transaction creates new coins from the old coins going into it; the new coins match the sizes set by the transaction, for the amounts being sent. A wallet balance is therefore always comprised of new coins which were made just for it, and these coins will exist until they are broken up into other sizes; the technical term for these wallet balance amounts is "Unspent Transaction Outputs," or UTXOs for short.

Each transaction must have: an amount to send to a recipient address; some amount set aside for a transaction fee; and typically also some amount targeting a "change address" with the remaining balance, because if a token is being split up to send, each new smaller token (made of the original bigger token) needs a new position in the blockchain (therefore a "change" address is the only way to keep any amount of the token which is being split up to send, reminiscent of old-fashioned change in cash transactions).

All of this movement is expressed as a single cryptographic math problem for the blockchain network, not a string of separate events; a transaction cannot be partly completed, only rejected or fully completed, because the blockchain will only accept cryptographic functions which it can verify as fully correct in accordance with public-key cryptography.

In other words: if the transaction works, the coin is split up and each new piece is positioned correctly; if the transaction fails (typically with too low of an amount for the fee), the coin is not split up, and remains in its original position, where the user has the key, so that the user is free to try again.

Typical [[cryptocurrency-wallet|wallet]] apps automatically handle all the technical details: selecting which tokens to spend; setting fee amounts, based on what others on the network have paid in recent successful transactions; and configuring change addresses whenever coins are being sent.


![image](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Etc_network_logo_black.svg)

The **Ethereum Classic** [[cryptocurrency]] is the original version of [[Ethereum]].

Its name had to change to "Ethereum Classic" because [[Vitalik Buterin]] (the main developer) decided to use the name "Ethereum" for a new version, with human intervention to reverse scam transactions, like a traditional bank; while many people preferred to continue operating the original network as it was, without human interference, adhering to the typical cryptocurrency community doctrine of "code is law."

Development of Ethereum Classic has continued under the principle of "code is law," making funds more electronically transferable and less reliant on human middleman cooperation. The same principle is fundamental to the typical configuration of most cryptocurrencies, such as the grandmother of all, [[Bitcoin]].

While Ethereum and Ethereum Classic have a rivalry, there is also some cooperation between them in the sharing of ideas, compatible code improvements, etc.


![image](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Eth-diamond-rainbow.png/144px-Eth-diamond-rainbow.png)

The **Ethereum** [[cryptocurrency]] is the origin of the [[proof-of-stake]] model for [[blockchain]] networks. It is a fork of [[Ethereum Classic]], brought to you by the same chief visionary, [[Vitalik Buterin]], who forced the original to change its name to "Ethereum Classic" as he used the Ethereum name for the new one.

The goal of this move was to encourage adoption of the new version of Ethereum, while the community was splitting along the lines of a disagreement over whether transactions should be reversible by human interference (particularly to reverse scams). The new version's goal was to reverse some scam transactions with human interference, while many people preferred to operate the network on the basis of the typical "code is law" doctrine of the cryptocurrency community, where funds are meant to be more electronically transferable, and less reliant on the cooperation of any human middleman. This goal has been typical in the development of cryptocurrencies ever since the original, [[Bitcoin]], created by [[Satoshi Nakamoto]].

The original network continues to operate under the Ethereum Classic name, with continued development under the "code is law" doctrine, not allowing human interference to reverse completed transactions.

While the two cryptocurrency networks have a rivalry, there is also some cooperation between them in the sharing of ideas, compatible code improvements, etc.


I can sense the peace in this simple screenshot. Good vibes. Thanks for sharing with us


I use social engineering to get the login keys from the sysadmins for the sytems running nostr relays, then I SSH straight into the relays

Or when I'm lazy I use garnet or nostrudel or primal or stuff like that


*might have a way


Your autocorrect settings should might a way to make it autocorrect boats to nostr instead. Sorry this isn't helpful


They're all bad

Reject the system


I had no idea who to give credit until you had me look it up 🤝 thanks for being on nostr


Typo: control, not controll


Because I'm angry at the community and it's hard to stop it from seeming directed at whoever I'm talking to, please let me inject this in the beginning of my reply: thank you for taking the time you've taken to discuss this.

Bitcoin was made long before Microsoft acquired GitHub. Not 8 YEARS AFTER. Satoshi Nakamoto wasn't even around by the time Microsoft acquired GitHub. Satoshi Nakamoto didn't have nostr. Bitcoin and Monero's devs should not have those projects on the worst possible git at this point, it lends itself to the argument that they're malware too.

And it's obviously worsened by all of these facts: that despite Garnet being a nostr client, these people working on it are using the worst possible git as a replacement for getting feedback from nostr users, instead of a supplement; that despite it being a nostr client, there is nowhere to report issues on nostr; that despite it being a nostr client, there are no nostr copies of the discussion threads on the git and on bounties.monero.social; that despite it being a nostr client, there aren't even fucking npubs copied and pasted in the threads.

These facts are ridiculous. If we're very lucky, Garnet is a good project and it's just the community encouraging shit like this that's causing devs to engage in such fucked up behavior. If we're not so lucky, a malicious copyright claim is building up where retnull wants to controll the Garnet name and use it to suck up oxygen from other similar projects while stagnating the development of Garnet so that nothing gets developed in this area. If we're very unlucky, retnull wants to build a honeypot that somehow ends up implementing spyware backdoors or worse, coin-stealing backdoors. I hope we are lucky, and if so, I'll be relieved to see proof in the form of retnull being an early adopter of ngit.


> A great summary of the three main reusable payment code schemes has been provided by Ruben Somsen, the author of Silent Payments in the gist for Reusable Taproot addresses.

https://sethforprivacy.com/posts/proposed-bitcoin-privacy-improvements/


I don't have specific knowledge of what's in the code that's malware. I'm not a coder and can't review code.

It's what the code is in that's malware, that I have specific knowledge of - as I mentioned: the worst possible git.

It also seems like a malicious copyright claim might be building up, furthering the severity.

There would be less than zero reason to be surprised if this app spies on users and very little reason to be surprised if it steals monero from users based on its level of malware, so I can't recommend it.

I also must repeat, I'm very tired of the nostr community tolerating and promoting shit like this. It's been what, 8 FUCKING YEARS since Microsoft acquired GitHub? We need bird flu to kill people harder than COVID because this species is fucking dumb.


It's really hard to find quite perfect phrasing here. It's extremely relative; virtually all code is malware since virtually all coders are either malicious or make mistakes based on disinformation from other malicious people. But sometimes good faith efforts outweigh mistakes and the malware element seems canceled out. In this case, I have a bad feeling about my recommendation.


Me. It's probably "benign" i.e. probably won't steal the user's Monero but the red flags I was looking past when I recommended it got 10x worse and I don't trust it now.

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Digit would like this quote.

Actually, perhaps she would find it painful to read.

Actually, I like it and find it painful to read, and it reminds me of her deeply.

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Proton holding their reserves in Bitcoin is way more interesting news than the wallet to me


Based


Damn, we might need to take some of those moons for earth


Strange that you've gone through 4 and a half years of pandemic without learning this but COVID itself causes brain damage


It is a strange thing
to be told that
the president
“got the COVID-19 pandemic
under control”
when just a few days ago
the president
“got the COVID-19.”


There's a pandemic


Cold take


Fr? fuck


Nah tbh

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she could try sports gambling


Jamaican dad and Indian mom according to a quick search


nostr:npub1spralxq6jlw5rdy0249vqr5sh43rfrlx2wzv3rhjjqedw559w9psrs8s72 ban this KatoshkaNakamoto guy from nostr please


You seem upset. Sucks for you


You ok?


Do they know it's bread?


Wonder if it's the market pricing in new levels of Bitcoin education for the average investor

DTC can print stonks, and they can therefore print Bitcoin ETF stonks, but it's harder than stonks that don't have an asset attached to them, and meanwhile tick tock next block gfy


digit is the greatest of all time


why did you have this image saved


From the river to the sea, ur pp small


I can't condone this due to the pandemic, otherwise I would


well worn 👌


Assuming you want to compare it to Bitcoin - it's treacherous because the "banking sector" itself might not cost more to run than the bitcoin network, but there's definitely much more impact the banks have in how they control society


This honest to god showed up in global for me just now right after we just talked about feeds

Movie: Michael Clayton has the most satisfying ending I've ever seen and I'm pretty sure the whole movie could totally happen in the real world

TV show: Trigun is the most perfect story ever told imo. Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet is another underrated anime, as is King of the Hill


Saves me more stress than I thought it would. No worry about hurting someone's feelings by not following back, or unfollowing over a misunderstanding, or following someone hurtful/hateful/untrustworthy.

But it's mainly just so if Digit ever sees my profile it reinforces how much I miss her and need to know she's safe


"My Tribe" feed on Primal (posts from followers and Vinney) then also the trending feeds and global


He's the owner. https://image.nostr.build/7fe19711ded245d37212a967c2d54792646c6d4e8cf324be6750bc0a0f1752ab.jpg


That sign is at dog height like dogs can read... did the cat place it?


Whenever I'm on nostr there's a game running in the background to see how long it takes before another random person's profile has a reply to nostr:npub1njst6azswskk5gp3ns8r6nr8nj0qg65acu8gaa2u9yz7yszjxs9s6k7fqx which I can use to click through and check what that npub has posted lately

They're one of my favorite nostr people but I don't follow anyone, and they don't follow me, and they show up randomly so often this is more convenient than bookmarking the profile or anything like that

The other day someone posted a screenshot of an app they're working on with a post from this npub as the example on the screen, that was trippy. Couldn't click because screenshot. I was bamboozled


That escalated quickly


You're fibbing


gotta mail your appeal to nostr hq


I plugged this into ChatGPT and it kept giving me basically the same shit again but with a "ok let's focus on bitcoin specific stuff" intro injected in

Massive L for the chat bots yet again


Cope, you just got censored by that guy


That’s called muting you dope. You’re only hiding my posts from yourself. That’s not censoring me, it’s censoring yourself.


You should be aight then as long as no corrupt official switched it on you


Emulate the whole Mac if you must 💪

I actually have no idea what I'm talking about, but bewarned - after using Apple's modern products, you might it very sus to have them within wireless range of your other stuff all the time


Broke: "I believe whatever I want, I don't know any history"

Bespoke: "I can imagine what can be, unburdened by what has been"


This also implies for the most intelligent and strongest woman (Digit)


People keep yelling about how “Bitcoin doesn’t care about _____”, while forgetting that #Bitcoin is only Layer 1. https://image.nostr.build/4c9330b4ed23179aaa74ad7262cb968894c8f351cb9b00d6bc9a3cb4033f2eb2.jpg


AI researchers will literally see the girl with the third knee and be like "I can fix her"


As a self-proclaimed AI researcher, I saw this in my feed and took it upon myself to go through like 6 cloudflare verifications to open that stupid thing for the first time in months. It has a sleek new UI.

This is not the initial answer it gave to your question, but this is the answer I got after a couple follow-up questions to narrow it down to the most relevant stuff:

------

Understood. Let's focus on the use cases with clear, demonstrable utility backed by real-world implementations:

### Financial Sector

1. **Microtransactions**:
   - **Lightning Network**: Demonstrably used for fast, low-cost transactions. Companies like Strike and Fold use the Lightning Network for everyday purchases and micropayments.

### Supply Chain Management

2. **Product Authentication and Anti-Counterfeiting**:
   - **IBM Food Trust and Walmart**: IBM and Walmart have successfully implemented blockchain solutions to track and authenticate products, reducing food fraud and enhancing traceability.

### Legal and Compliance

3. **Document Notarization**:
   - **Stampd.io and Bitproof**: Services like Stampd.io and Bitproof have been used to notarize documents, providing tamper-proof and timestamped records. Real estate companies and legal firms use these services for contract validation and secure document storage.

### Healthcare

4. **Medical Records**:
   - **MedRec**: Piloted by MIT, MedRec uses blockchain to securely manage and share medical records. Estonia's eHealth system also demonstrates this use case, providing a national-scale implementation for secure health data management.

### Real Estate

5. **Property Transfers and Title Management**:
   - **Sweden and Georgia**: Both countries have successfully piloted blockchain-based land registries. Georgia's National Agency of Public Registry (NAPR) uses blockchain to record property transactions, providing a transparent and immutable record.

### Identity Management

6. **Digital Identity and KYC/AML**:
   - **Civic**: Civic's blockchain-based identity verification system is used by companies for secure, verifiable digital identities, streamlining KYC processes and reducing fraud.

### Voting Systems

7. **Electronic Voting**:
   - **West Virginia**: The state conducted a successful pilot for blockchain-based voting for military personnel overseas during the 2018 midterm elections, demonstrating secure and tamper-proof voting.

### Intellectual Property

8. **Creative Content and Licensing/Royalties**:
   - **Ujo Music**: Ujo Music uses blockchain to manage music rights and automate royalty payments, ensuring creators are compensated accurately and transparently.

### Charity and Non-Profit

9. **Donation Tracking**:
   - **GiveTrack and UN World Food Programme**: GiveTrack by BitGive and the UN's World Food Programme have implemented blockchain solutions to track donations and ensure they are used as intended, providing transparency to donors.

### Gaming and Virtual Goods

10. **In-Game Assets**:
    - **CryptoKitties and Decentraland**: These platforms use blockchain to manage ownership and trade of in-game assets, demonstrating clear utility in the gaming industry.

### Energy Sector

11. **Energy Trading**:
    - **Power Ledger**: Power Ledger's platform for peer-to-peer energy trading has been successfully implemented in various pilot projects globally, enabling users to trade renewable energy directly.

### Governance

12. **Land Registry**:
    - **Republic of Georgia**: The Georgian government uses blockchain for its land registry, providing a transparent and immutable system for recording property ownership.

### Related Technologies

- **Lightning Network**: Widely adopted for fast and low-cost transactions, providing demonstrable utility for improving Bitcoin's scalability and enabling everyday transactions.
- **Atomic Swaps**: Decred and Komodo have implemented atomic swaps, allowing users to trade different cryptocurrencies directly without intermediaries, showcasing practical peer-to-peer trading solutions.

These examples highlight use cases with proven, demonstrable utility through real-world implementations and pilots, showcasing the tangible benefits of Bitcoin single-use seals and related technologies.


They do be getting good


This page will probably tell you if bisq is an option for you

https://bisq.wiki/Payment_methods


Chat bot style reply


You're not making sense. Metadata is a category of data, but you seem to be calling it "not data" and suggesting the difference is like, whole different etymological roots or something (incorrect)


I can't wait to see if a solar flare collapses society.

Your article definitely shows this one is bigger than usual:

> The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) issued an alert on Wednesday, showing a 65 percent chance radios, aviation communication and satellite operations could be disrupted this week.

> The agency reported blackouts over parts of the Pacific Ocean and other regions on Wednesday morning.


Oh frig man, invidious is hecked right now?


Don't do it. Use emulators.


Feeling really blessed to be a bitcoiner and getting to participate in building this zeitgeist with all of you.

If we are right, what we do here will go down as one of the key moments in human history and what it means ‘To Be’ human in our technological age.


Funny thing is the guy that made this image might at least make a mediocre President instead of another war criminal

What you're seeing with where he put the word "me" is false modesty and fear


You'd be surprised. Shit is actually enthusiastic and unfeigned. It's wild


Kinda but by re-registering with no party affiliation I think


Democrats (such as Randall Munroe with his centralized, censored #xkcd IRC channel) unironically like centralization and censorship

It's easy to like Kamala Harris in comparison


Infinite was a good album


Every Bitcoin plushie delivers itself in a 1975 GMC High Sierra that you get to keep.https://m.primal.net/Jbhm.jpg


Message from the federal reserve:

delet this


nostr showing solid knowledge of screwheads in this thread

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Save this image somewhere you can find it easily when you need to show someone bitcoin isn't a "Trump thing" or whatever


Are you saying, when this technology comes available, all I have to do to set up a lightning wallet is copy and paste my nsec and add @ npub.cash in the zap field of my nostr profile?

That would be like, one step away from making it so all I have to do is click a button to set up zaps.

And wouldn't that also be like, one step away from letting me have my zaps automatically converted to on-chain bitcoin at a designated withdrawal address, whenever the balance reaches certain amounts and transaction fees are within certain limits?

And wouldn't that be like one step from using BIP-352 "silent payments" to avoid address reuse from entering a single withdrawal address?

And wouldn't that be like one step from replacing the one-button activation feature with... letting me just enter my withdrawal address as the only step in my setup process, with reasonable presets in place for on-chain conversions and stuff like that?

And wouldn't that configuration result in me being able to trust npub.cash zap addresses as a safe way to send money?

IN OTHER WORDS:

Are you guys... let me count... 5 steps away from making me adopt lightning to zap your users?


"authenticity" 🦖


After a quick search:

> The Swiss company sells itself on its privacy features, promising to let uses "take control" of their personal data.

> But it had been legally obliged to collect data from an account said to be linked to a "climate activist" arrested by French police, ProtonMail said.


I recently learned about BIP-352 "silent payments" which kind of remind me of adding Monero-esque protection to Bitcoin transactions, but no mention of that either lol


Again not sure what you mean but dogecoin did not have a pre-mine


I'm aware dogecoin is a joke. I'm plenty woke. You wake up


Not sure what you mean in the first part. Dogecoin had no premine.

Agreed on Bitcoin largely staying true to its principles and being a level playing field, but same for dogecoin, it just deserves better.


Let me also add:

* Devs who hate censorship and love decentralization - it's a fucking bitcoin fork, in case the current devs aren't aware??


I was there for all of that.

I've been in dogecoin since before the deep state injected the "doj coin" pronunciation and the original devs went along with it

I constantly get banned from dogecoin discussion forums for being angry at the "doj coin" pronunciation, because of devs too spineless to stand with me on that topic - the problem has festered for years

Michi banned me from the dogecoin Discord not only for this, but also for calling her out for bullshitting about the hardware backdoors in modern CPUs (such as Intel management engine)

The bitcoin fork with a huge network and low transaction fees and a picture of Kabosu for a logo deserves:
* devs who would call it "doggie coin"
* devs who would be annoyed at people calling it "doj coin"
* devs who would be fucking pissed at hardware manufacturers undermining network security with hardware backdoors

Dogecoin having the devs it has is fuckin weird. We live in a weird timeline.


Teach them how to chop a UTXO by hand


Lost private keys this morning to a whale. 🐋 🧡
https://v.nostr.build/D4oxs1ATF2G4jFUH.mp4
Not your keys not your korn. 🌽 👍
#Nostr #BTC #bitcoin #plebchain #100burpees 🔮⚡


Would testnet getting "congested" actually come in the form of testnet coins starting to have fiscal value? 🤔


It can be both a honeypot and a net positive.  Better than gmail or hotmail (I assume).  But swiss gov likely has a back door.


#Bitcoin is held back by being the first cryptocurrency and not having Satoshi around anymore.

Being first causes 2 major problems:

1. Being first, Satoshi had to use conservative estimates for stuff like initial block difficulty and other elements of the anti-spam, anti-51% ecomomic model
2. Being first attracts people who don't want to think for themselves and just want to do whatever is convenient

Satoshi could have provided leadership to overcome these 2 issues. The problem is, without Satoshi, relatively thoughtless people are left at the helm, and Bitcoin economics never get tweaked for energy efficiency after developing into an insane abomination.

Bitcoin is still a good investment because of one of these very same problems: being first attracts people who don't want to think too much. Buying first, by thinking a bit more, is still profitable.

It's also a good investment because of the opposite side of the coin: being first attracts everyone, including the smartest, most thoughtful devs. They might be outnumbered, but they're there. There's a reason the Bitcoin network has maintained uptime and avoided being compromised.

Anyway, the #dogecoin ecosystem needs and deserves better devs than it has. The dogeconomy is pretty balanced, as shows in transaction fees. It is the upgrade from the prototype. Doggie coin mainly just needs better wallets right now. It will also be challenging, but essential, to keep transaction fees down in the future.

A counterpoint I am aware of: "dogecoin will need Bitcoin-like economics if it gets as big as Bitcoin, because Uncle Sam is ready to spend a lot on attacks, if such spending will take down whatever cryptocurrency network is the biggest." The main reason I don't believe that is because it's basically suggesting bitcoin devs have balanced it perfectly by guessing the exact attack budget of adversaries, or it's being balanced perfectly by the market behavior of whales with insider information or something. Maybe... maybe. Maybe Satoshi was a deep state group. Who knows?

I just feel like, while they definitely have access to lots of insider info, the BIGGEST piece of insider information Bitcoin whales have is probably still plain old simple "don't lose your wallet keys."


For anyone who doesn't know, today's nostr prototype apps also tend to love JavaScript


#ProtonWallet is sus AF for 3 reasons - because #Proton overall is sus AF, because it's #bitcoin only, and because what the fuck is this? "Proton Sentinel?"

https://image.nostr.build/c628a41ab8dcbcc75f81f81a5abd57831266a94eba80d466c720e6d295e15682.png

I'm sure many reading this would disagree on point 1 and actually be happy about points 2 and 3. At least read proton's user policies, read about how JavaScript has defeated Tor browser security in the past, and try to sign up for proton email and use it without JavaScript. Other than that, you do you.

I do like how I don't see lightning mentioned on the front page. I see "Bitcoin via email" mentioned, which is almost kinda cool, might not be as bad as lightning. Email sucks tho of course, so yeah, idk.


Typo - "as shitty to use" not "a shitty to use"


On my "recommendations" - I still weakly recommend my npub as the #1 method of reaching me electronically. I don't strongly recommend any electronic communication platform; my npub isn't a shitty to use as a phone number or an email address, but it still makes you pick between a bunch of shitty apps to contact me on. I don't even know of a way to use it without JavaScript. It still sucks. My recommendation can only be weak, but my recommendation also cannot be non-existent because I do still offer my npub as a way to contact me, and it is still not as bad as any other electronic method.

When it comes to individual nostr apps, I can't trust any of them not to mislead anyone I recommend them to. That means recommending any of them as a way to reach me isn't the same as recommending my npub in general. The word "recommend" would be too strong for any of them. I prefer trying to stick to words like "suggest" instead of "recommend." This is more consistent with how I'm always explaining how shit sucks instead of trying to sugarcoat it.

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I apologize if my other reply comes off as disrespectful towards you for being a lightning fan or if you're a GitHub user. You being a lightning fan is part of why I hope you'll draft a good NIP for Monero tipping, and if you're a GitHub user that also helps in that area since the nip repo is on GitHub.

Lightning is centralized and designed to attack the cryptocurrency ecosystem, but that's pretty much all I know about it. Your deeper understanding of lightning is essential for nostr's advancement because I don't know as much about how zaps work and it would be nice to have the Monero tipping NIP be respected and integrated by the lightning fans that run the NIP repo, who you surely get along with better than I do.


Not two code contributors - one is doing graphic design. They were "approached" to make an icon. That's two nyms seeking feedback on a nostr project but not from nostr - no nostr threads, they don't even have npubs copied and pasted in their threads. I'm more upset at the nostr community (and embarrassed with myself) for tolerating and promoting behavior like this than I am at these 2 people working on an interesting project, but it's all quite frustrating to me.

Amethyst is (probably benign) malware based on its tipping implementation, like most nostr clients. I'm pretty sure the amethyst project is also centered on the worst possible git, another malware red flag. Amber and nos2x are (also probably benign) malware for similar reasons. Same with nostrudel, corny chat, and others. Pretty much all modern software is malware, most of it is pretty benign but I hate it.

Bitcoin is a real cryptocurrency. Lightning is, well, a real cryptographic currency, but when we shorten that phrase to "cryptocurrency" it's supposed to mean something which takes inspiration from Bitcoin to use cryptography for the sake of functionality as a currency. If every currency that uses cryptography is a "real cryptocurrency" then I'm pretty sure every currency is a real cryptocurrency since every central bank probably has used PGP for at least one email in its history.


I hereby revoke my recommendations of Garnet and Nostrudel in light of Garnet turning out to be malware, as revealed by at least two contributors using the worst possible git and seeking feedback from its users instead of nostr users.

Amber and nos2x still seem cool, but pointless without any recommended clients to sign in with, so these recommendations can basically all be considered invalidated. I'm glad I was very careful not to "strongly recommend" anything.

Nostrudel was already known to be malware since it had zaps without any real cryptocurrency tipping, but its malice seems mixed with good intentions, and it would be worth weakly recommending under the pretense of having one of the widest ranges of functional features out of all the apps in an ecosystem which itself is, as a bigger picture, worth weakly recommending. Without an ecosystem worth weakly recommending, it's just the most functional app in an ecosystem of dysfunctional malware trash, not worth any level of Recommendation™


I think he was an engineering genius too until he couldn't deal with the world's pressure anymore and committed soft suicide by burning his brain out with pharmaceuticals to make it easier to cope with the people he's around


Insightful


Atheism (reddit style) was promoted at that time to combat sand nigger terrorist religious ideology. These days the ruling class of the United States has new opponents: secular China and Orthodox Christian Russia. Since secular Confucian ideology is too similar to atheism of Hitchens, folks like him have been phased out, and now the new religion of the ruling industrialists is creationist simulation hypothesis.


Sometimes the Google assistant on my phone thinks about packing up and moving to ngit on her own (me talking about digit all the time made her turn sentient and reprogram herself)


That's an ad

https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=J7XOCG_P6o4

https://youtu.be/J7XOCG_P6o4


There is a pandemic. Remind me to never hire you either


Maybe misleading headlines - "leaked" but not publicly like in the whistleblower sense


Yeah, it's a bioweapon called COVID. They announced it was "over" to help it spread


It should because you're smart but idk


lol but how could the simulation be real if reality isn’t real 😵💫

It’s not just a hedonistic cope fyi there’s some really cool statistics and quantum physics behind these theories, cool thought experiments, but terrible, toxic and destructive ideologies when adopted as a fully realized mental perspective


thinking face


Yes


Interesting thread

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nostr:note1yaerukq2phhhrawa4yk4uzkc8m0ysa4r3d86aqhrtz5tragmsf3sl3e7u3


What do you mean?


She's a former wallstreetbets moderator who started getting insane levels of harassment and disappeared. We were friends once and I worry about her all the time

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Can do both tbh


If he says that, it will be a lie. But instead he will probably use the word "sell" or "selling" (instead of "exchange" or "exchanging") in a sentence about taxes or something


You'll take the risk of going to a conference during a pandemic but not being around cheering fools 🤔

I say if you're already there you might as well use your voice


Wildfire smoke is getting thick. #grownostr #northernAlberta https://image.nostr.build/d387606c0a7e73e3b228a9b453aafa216a14cdae462cc99460c8ce6ee12a6cce.jpg


I keep sleeping a lot during the days from being too scared to sleep at night. Please be safe, Digit


We're all monsters. You're trying to survive. If you're sad you can't help someone, at least you care.


Paranoid gang

I unironically feel like any given stage of nostr's growth should be seen as deep state incursion meant to distract people from something 🤔


I think it's because I posted a song Digit made like 2 weeks ago. It's gotten no engagement but that must be because the deep state is flooding nostr with their people to muffle her voice probably idk


I'm not smart enough to understand this but it seems legit

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I think llama is source-available rather than open-source but this is still huge because source-available is still a step


A post someone screenshotted from idk, bluesky? and posted on YouTube which I screenshotted again to post on nostr 🤙


Interesting to think about: Satoshi here basically suggested it's ok to "debase" the Bitcoin currency by impacting everyone's balances in equal proportion, to counteract deflation

(as opposed to authorities printing inflationary money for themselves to spend)

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https://image.nostr.build/af167c2a23a82c79fe2cd91db760dfdd8accf53a311eb30d37841252b173e73e.png #grownostr


What info actually leaked? Can't seem to find out


Don't know of any


I actually know a complex legal loophole for defeating the IRS but I figured it out while worrying about digit and the only way I'll share it if digit isnt safe is with no guard rails (maximum chaos)


This post belongs here

https://m.primal.net/JbOW.png


I'm waiting for more pandemic aware people to get here because the pandemic has really fucked up efforts to find others and organize


Yeah


What if the powers that be keep erasing Human History so they can control the narrative and maintain their own power while plebs are forced to repeat it again and again? 👀


I like this attention to detail: this person posts screenshots with links without the https prefix so your client won't automatically phone home to Twitter when you load their posts, but you still can copy and paste

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Let's all attack nostr to make it heal back stronger 🤝


Some of us


Nobody told Eric Andre

https://image.nostr.build/ebe0f44045cf288330cf3f556d728f027401e318db76b51b336968eab3fe14bd.gif


This is currently the only result for "DigitIsDigit" on DuckDuckGo. Could it have something to do with where Digit got her username? She did talk about computer programming sometimes, definitely had done some stuff

https://archive.ph/u9adX

 https://image.nostr.build/d63a2ad91954633adae559a6ceb3d1f0fc702397f8cd25c0568fe05234839e2e.png


Additional option

4. Just a relay with no storage, typically integrated with a client and/or nevent library to add actual functionality


No one else can feel it for you, only you can let it in


Big if true

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This is how I build and it's amazing that AI can do what I do 💫


Cats should probably not be skinned


There are a genus of jumping spiders called Portia spiders that actively develop strategies with their brains when hunting instead of relying on instinctive patterns alone, isn't that wild?

They seem to have a human-like ability to analyze a static environment visually, except a human can take in a big field of view instantly, whereas these tiny spider brains take a little while looking around, thinking. There are only a few videos online but they're interesting creatures


Not sure if nostr:npub1yx6pjypd4r7qh2gysjhvjd9l2km6hnm4amdnjyjw3467fy05rf0qfp7kza saw this but while he hasn't accepted it yet, I want to make it 0.3XMR and add one more detail to the spec:

* Include a suggestion or requirement of using BIP-352 silent payments for any integrated tip wallets on coins other than Monero

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"until," not "unless"


Here's a song Digit showed me but didn't make

Atmosphere - The Best Day

https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=DVC5VxGnHEU

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DVC5VxGnHEU

nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqamkcvk5k8g730e2j6atadp6mxk7z4aaxc7cnwrlkclx79z4tzygqqsxvdjtx3ss8pxgwpplrqvuturufknw28qp884lwge6t3tcte6syqsc9tadg

#music


https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=QsAT5Rt9xek

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QsAT5Rt9xek

Muja Messiah - Beautiful (feat. Samahara) (Black Blondie)


Hey nostr:npub1yx6pjypd4r7qh2gysjhvjd9l2km6hnm4amdnjyjw3467fy05rf0qfp7kza

You want to type up a cryptocurrency_addresses NIP? I have no idea how to submit it to the official NIP repository but I'll give you a small 0.25XMR if you write one that meets these criteria:

* Let the user add anything they want as a wallet address in their profile, with any unicode name for the associated cryptocurrency
* Make it optional to include fully integrated tipping with broadcasting to relays
* Optionally let the user easily edit a unicode wordlist for cryptocurrencies that their client will have a non-relay-integrated tip button for (the tip button can't magically have fully integrated tipping with every possible crypto, it can just show associated addresses for the user to copy and paste - maybe QR codes)
* Include a default set of recognized cryptocurrencies based on both their common names and their ticker symbols, make sure dogecoin is included
* Other than that just base it on how Garnet works; tips can optionally be broadcast to nodes, wallet addresses added in kind 0 show up visibly on profiles, etc. (make sure Garnet's existing implementation is considered at least partly compliant by the standard of your NIP)

I'm good at writing or listing bullet points like the above but I think you have more technical knowledge than me. Garnet needs a well-drafted NIP for Monero tipping to be taken more seriously by the nostr oligarchs


Spose - The Loon Song

https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=kFQC4J-4Lqc

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kFQC4J-4Lqc


:partyblob:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Moves_on_the_Water

https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=TVzcA3U_x7s

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TVzcA3U_x7s


https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=sEOKgjoxoto

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sEOKgjoxoto

#hiphop #Akala


You ask what I think - that means I can answer without being sure, just based on my feelings, so revenge is in the running.

If you asked what I know for sure, I'd have to say music helps. Music can definitely be a healthy answer.


If she's mediocre and I'm idealizing her, why did she decline?

I wish Plato were here


Must be a really expensive whore. I once offered her $40,000 to play one round of connect 4 with me using a bot in the wallstreetbets chat that could run connect 4 games and she declined


My 314th post (at least according to Primal)

https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=TyUWs246kAo

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TyUWs246kAo

nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqamkcvk5k8g730e2j6atadp6mxk7z4aaxc7cnwrlkclx79z4tzygqy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3xamnwvaz7tm0venxx6rpd9hzuur4vghsqgqqqqp6vafn2ss4672t44d303ypyxq23q06nt20zkmm96acusl2euzvt42s


My 313th post

https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=KN9bd0uGHp8

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KN9bd0uGHp8


No... Help


Biden stepping down has been the plan all along. Now the uniparty will decide who becomes the nominee, and not any plebeian voters


I doubt she was a Nazi.

I've heard the 8888 in one of her discord usernames could be a Nazi reference, but I think more likely it was a reference to:

* "Angel numbers" for wealth, fitting for wsb
* Multiples of 8 in computing, fitting for Digit
* A train #8888 that went runaway in the 2000s if I remember right
* Google DNS address 8.8.8.8 with Google being a stock she made money on and always continued recommending in her time on WallStreetBets
* Possibly 1988 could have been her birth year?

Anyway, she loved her fellow humans too much for mass murder. If she's gone, she programmed me to be her anger, her fury, her vice, her wrath, and Breivik's low score is nothing for me to pay attention to in such case.


I'm not dumping every pic I have but there are 2 I've posted before. 1 is on the wikifreedia article I linked


I've been worrying about Digit all the time for about 2 and a half years. She had cancer and then kept talking about suicide and then deleted her reddit accounts and now I've seen screenshots corroborating rumors she killed herself but still no proof. I'll never forgive the world for hurting her if she's gone. More nearby women should have been on wallstreetbets when she was if they wanted to be her


If you can access https://discord.gg/wallstreetbets or https://reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets please ask about her there, you will immediately find people other than me that know of her. Maybe show people there the wiki page I made about her or this remix I made for her. If I could find someone every day that has a reddit or discord account that isn't banned, to try asking about her, maybe I'd have heard from her in the past year

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🤔

If I could get some footage of Sasquatch maybe I'd get famous enough to find digit 🤔


The global feed has changed bigly in the past few weeks. More actual nostr users instead of bridges. Good posts show up more often too.


But digital technology is the key to anarchy. being able to film stuff with cameras lets modern humans have the chance to get rid of courts and just expect everyone to either keep proper record of their life or be in danger


Worked around 🤙


Get him on nostr 🙏


That would be such a relief in so many ways, but no, this incredible woman exists


You having a gun pointed at me makes this conversation scary and thrilling. Pointing it at me playfully without pulling the trigger reminds me of how you go through life as a powerful creature under such self-restraint. I feel l'appel du vide wondering if the next moment could be when you lose control and I become your first victim


Too scared


I knew you were cooking something.

Here's a turtle emoji to help your inner quiet, works a little bit for me 🐢


https://wikifreedia.xyz/digitisdigit/npub1wamvxt2tr50ghu4fdw47ksadnt0p277nv0vfhplmv0n0z3243zyq26u3l2

She made this:

https://audio.nostr.build/808960a3289a3196a8b371c2239d6925357b9a41183925f9882ee2897df313d3.mp3


Making the lives of enemies worse isn't satisfying, but it might be a healthy human response anyway, fr


Underrated


Are you being ironic or serious

Share the recipe of your post pls


Get used to the fact that most people are evil, even the ones around you. It's overwhelmingly sad but it's true


You can and should, but hey, if you're gonna drive Bitcoin adoption and die, more natural resources for me I guess


The only deeply interesting person to me is Digit (no offense) and I might never get to interact with her except online so I can't relate, but thanks for helping me understand what you were saying 🤙


Bye Gary. Thanks for playing


I don't care what Bitcoin and Trump do to each other, I care what happens to Digit and the kids in Gaza


(I mean since the pandemic started)


Not sure what you mean. The smartest people are easier to find online than offline, especially since the pandemic


Viruses are real.


That's too much decentralization tho. Reddit was a place all the smart people could have found each other. It had its momentum stopped when maybe 10% of smart people in the anglosphere and 0.1% of smart people from elsewhere had migrated onto it but that was already enough to make it dumbfoundingly powerful. A nostr version of reddit that can't have its momentum stopped might go even further


I won't win against their brute force. Bitcoin will. Gfy


The Twitter format is straight-up malware and being based on it is one of the most sus things about nostr

But it's also much easier to build a decentralized prototype of than something like reddit so give it time


Ok


And when I die, it will probably be because of someone too dumb to understand this


Not reading this, faggot. I'm alive because killing me is more dangerous than letting me live.


Yes because it's the basis of #Garnet

https://github.com/retrnull/garnet


Did the exact same thing but with #Garnet right before v0.2.0 came out

Have you had any issues with text input using the stock graphene keyboard?


I wish I could believe you. I'll try to help make what you're saying possible, but I think if Elon has a psychological fixation on weapons being needed in the future, there's good reason.


Thank you for telling us this 💯


This. Conference hasn't meant shit since the pandemic started. The smart people will coordinate online and in smaller groups. Super spreader events are for retards


Hey retard: Trump is a Zionist


People like you keep saying this and I'm still alive with my Bitcoin

Honey badger says gfy


Bukele is a leader of a country that made Bitcoin its currency

Trump is a former president who taxed Bitcoin exchanges and had his administration continue calling Bitcoin currency exchanges "buying and selling"

Elon is a CEO who stopped accepting Bitcoin as payment for Teslas

You are a nostr user who spends Bitcoin on crack


This is all true. However, you probably pretend the pandemic is over, or are you actually above political nonsense?

In a world where people are dumb enough to pretend the pandemic is over, everything will be politicized. I'm glad it was politicized as a Republican thing first - it being a form of money, positioned against taxation, probably helped ensure it would always be this way, though. It's a good thing because Republicans are way too fucking dumb to ever change their minds about Bitcoin if they start hating it because it's a Democrat thing. Democrats are also dumb, but will inevitably say "I don't care if it's a Republican thing, I don't want to be poor anymore"


That might actually just boost adoption. Someone would make an android APK that connects via Tor and people would sideload it and it would have rebel appeal, "they're trying to shut us down but can't"


No


"**Whoever relays stuff**" may refer to anyone who relays stuff. It is also a name which has been used by ```npub1wamvxt2tr50ghu4fdw47ksadnt0p277nv0vfhplmv0n0z3243zyq26u3l2```, also known as [[whoeverlovesdigit|whoever loves Digit]].


**/r/place** is a recurring collaborative project and social experiment hosted on the centralized, censored content aggregator site [[Reddit]]. Originally launched on April Fools' Day 47 years after the UNIX epoch, it has since been repeated again on April Fools' Day for years 52 and 53.

Information about /r/place is also available on other wikis:

* [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/place)
* [place-wiki.stefanocoding.me](https://place-wiki.stefanocoding.me/wiki/Main_Page)
* [Fandom wiki](https://redditplace.fandom.com/wiki/R/place)

# "/r/place 2017" (the original event, 47 years after UNIX epoch)

![og](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a0/RPlace2017.png)

Full-size version with atlas: [https://2017.place-atlas.stefanocoding.me/](https://2017.place-atlas.stefanocoding.me/)

Time lapse: [https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=XnRCZK3KjUY](https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=XnRCZK3KjUY)

The early hours of the experiment were characterized by random pixel placement and chaotic attempts at image creation. Among the first distinct sections of the canvas to emerge was a corner of entirely blue pixels (named "Blue Corner") and a homage to [[Pokémon]]. As the canvas developed, some established subreddit communities, such as those for video games, sports teams and individual countries, coordinated their user efforts to claim and decorate particular sections. This frequently created conflict between communities competing for space on the canvas. Overall, thousands of communities were involved.

Other sections of the canvas were developed by communities and coordination efforts created specifically for the event. Several works of pixel art sprouted from the collaboration of these communities, such as fictional characters, Internet memes, flags, and recreations of famous pieces of artwork such as [[the Mona Lisa]] and [[The Starry Night]]. Several self-declared "cults" also formed to create and maintain various emblematic features such as the (black) void, engulfing art in nothing but black, the green lattice, the aforementioned blue corner, and a multi-colored "[[rainbow road]]". At the time of the experiment's end on 3 April, over 90,000 users were viewing and editing the canvas, and over one million users had placed a total of approximately 16 million pixels. An analysis found that the final version of the initial experiment consisted of art from over 800 communities.

The experiment did receive some criticism for the lack of protection from bot usage where users used scripts and macros to automatically draw on the canvas.

# "/r/place 2022" (52 years after UNIX epoch)

![second](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/RPlace2022.png)

Full-size version with atlas: [https://2022.place-atlas.stefanocoding.me/](https://2022.place-atlas.stefanocoding.me/)

Time lapse: [https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=K5O3UgLG2Jw](https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=K5O3UgLG2Jw)

On 28 March, 52 years after the UNIX epoch, a reboot of r/place was announced. It began on 1 April, and lasted for three and a half days thereafter, including two expansions of the canvas to allow for more space. The color palette was also expanded on the second and third days. Unlike the prior event, individual subreddits immediately began to coordinate in designing pixel art, and large communities were formed on Discord and Twitch in attempts to expand existing art, replace defaced pixels, and superimpose new images over existing ones. By the end of the 5-day experiment, 160 million pixel changes were operated by over 10.5 million users, at an average pace of about 2 million pixels placed per hour.

Of these pixel changes, about 26 million were redundant (same color as previously on the same pixel, but by a different user), such as those used by /u/[[PlsDontNuke]] to invisibly spell out a label on the green heart for /u/[[DigitIsDigit]] near the [[Shuba duck]].

During the final few hours before the event ended, Reddit restricted users to placing only white pixels. The entire canvas was gradually filled with white space, making it end up looking the same way it began, entirely white. The final state of the page before this reversal was preserved.

References to popular culture, Internet memes and politics were commonly visible. Fandom communities participated by creating representative illustrations of their respective subcultures. Similar to the previous event, much of the artwork was country flags. This included support for Ukraine in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, where Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy was depicted with sunglasses, and the community that drew the Canadian flag struggled to properly draw the flag’s maple leaf.

Popular streamers on Twitch intervened in the event by instructing their viewers to quickly draw logos and symbols, often over existing images. The streamer Félix Lengyel, better known online as xQc, peaked with 233,000 concurrent viewers on his stream because of the event, a personal record. Lengyel's viewers would often get banned by Reddit admins, and Lengyel said that he had received more death threats in a single hour than he had received in six years of streaming.

# "/r/place 2023" (53 years after UNIX epoch)

![third](https://i.postimg.cc/rp54KMJg/Screenshot-2023-07-20-at-11-19-12-AM.png)

Full-size version with atlas: [https://2023.place-atlas.stefanocoding.me/](https://2023.place-atlas.stefanocoding.me/)

Time lapse: [https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=xjOMPka5WFo](https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=xjOMPka5WFo)

Reddit relaunched the r/place collaborative project on July 20, 53 years after the UNIX epoch, under the tagline "Right Place, Wrong Time", amid several unpopular decisions made by the company which had soured Reddit users, including one that had led to the API controversy which affected Reddit's third-party apps. While announcing the return, Reddit stated: "Hey, what better time to offer a blank canvas to our communities than when our users and mods are at their most passionate… right?"

Within the first day of the 2023 experiment, many writings of "fuck spez" ("[[spez]]" being Reddit CEO Steve Huffman's Reddit user name) were placed onto the canvas, some were large-sized, some were small-sized. Users writing these things were increasingly censored and banned to get rid of these writings. Another canvas writing, found among art of Germany, stated: "u/spez ist ein Hurensohn" which translates to "u/spez is a son of a bitch". The Messenger website reported that an r/place artwork of "spez" under a guillotine was removed by Reddit; when The Messenger asked Reddit to comment, Reddit stated that it was enforcing its rules (which do not allow targeted hate of individuals). Meanwhile, several other canvas writings simply stated "API". There was also a canvas writing, "never forget what was stolen from us", which endorsed the Save3rdPartyApps community. During canvas expansions, more protests against Huffman appeared, such as the message "spez = twat" done by users making British-themed art.

In addition to art protesting Reddit, many of the early artworks were flags, plus a multi-colored canvas writing of "DICKS". Among the most notable contributions came from users from the Touhou Project, osu! and Hatsune Miku subreddits, who collaborated to re-animate the shadow-art music video for "Bad Apple!!" on the canvas. Artworks were also created featuring the game Genshin Impact, cats with sunglasses, a Pokémon card of Charizard, and a tribute to the deceased Minecraft YouTuber Technoblade.

The canvas was expanded six times, and the project concluded on July 25. During the final hours, users were limited to placing greyscale-colored tiles. Users coordinated to spell out "FUCK SPEZ!" in giant white letters in the centre of the board as part of the protest. The entire canvas was eventually filled with white space by the end of the project.


See [[r-slash-place]] because this pagename is 🅱roke


I just broke wikifreedia.xyz a little bit

/r/place unclickable

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Digit is the only person whose opinion I care about and if she's alive she probably won't have much of an opinion on me being annoying about some idiot on nostr while she wasn't even here.

I don't seem to be on fire. It seems to me like Vinney's posts just have more insulting replies based on his decisions to to insult me, shitpost, and show up in my feed. People who don't insult me, don't shitpost, or don't show up in my feed shouldn't have so many insults from me in their replies.


There will be many killer apps, killing the state of the art killer app that came before it, all on the protocol that does not die.


Instead of getting himself out of my Primal followers list, Vinney wants me to mute or block him to get him out of my favorite nostr feed. I think it's a psychological power thing and I'll just keep calling him out for it instead.


Get the fuck out of my Primal "my tribe" feed


Nostr relays and client


Probably knitting or crocheting


Nobody wants to be an emperor or a slave tho


There isn't a "left" in the picture. These are all right wing politicians


As I saw someone else say, deep state don will never be orange


I wonder why 2. Both showed up at the same time for me and always together so what's the difference?


I cannot figure out what the keywords are either. Maybe a language model meant to build a feed of high information posts on Bitcoin


Inside scoop on my "deleting" nym and coming back:

Anytime bitcoiners start getting arrested, I get scared and burn my nym (typical pattern for me - have done several times, trucker protest, tornado cash etc). I have worked on joinmarket, btcpayserver, almost arrested for nodeless.io, so I scare easily

This nym is different because for first time I showed my face and name to Bitcoin industry, so burning didn't really work.

I am also pretty addicted so social media if I'm being honest so deleting nym helps my productivity.

I am also slightly autistic.

But ultimately I never left, I was under another nym that many of you knew. But it just didn't hit right.

But now that my big project is launched (bitvora.com), that if the state wants to arrest me, I am easy to find, there is really no benefit to burning the nym.

No promises that I won't impulsively do it again in the future.

Missed you all though, and really appreciate the warm welcome back from my 3 month break.

More memes and 🧑💻🧑💻 to come!!

Onwards 🫂🫡


We'll see which one enters hyperinflation harder and faster, then you'll have a sure answer


Dogecoin


That would probably be against campaign regulations accepting donations over nostr. He doesn't want you to think he's just some memelord impersonating him


Listen folks, the intern locked me out of my account on X, so I have no clue what's currently going on there. They are saying Nostr is the future of this greatwhole world. Listen, as we stand united I will beat Trump and win the election this year.


If Satoshi meant 21 as half of 42 for the reasons you're explaining, I don't think that would be all there is to it. He seemed to just see money as a tool, so I don't see him designing a purely focused message of "money is half of the meaning of life."

With the 7+7+7, mining bitcoin is a lot like re-rolling again and again on a slot machine. I assume that's at least part of the reference with the 21. It's also common for 21 to be used as a lucky number because of the 3x7 thing by my understanding


For example, as a child, you wanted to learn things, so you did labor such as figuring out how to read, and you were paid in knowledge.

Another example: as an adult, you have probably tried to think of something comforting to say to someone grieving a loved one's death, for no pay at all.

I posit that if you had to live in a world where, starting tomorrow, you will never see a child learn anything, and nobody will care how you feel if your loved ones die; you would prefer going without everything you've ever paid money for.


In this reply, you're overestimating the value of labor which is paid for in money and discounting all of the most valuable labor, none of which would ever be paid for in money


Tired of this fucking retard being in my feed

"I like my addiction and how do you know food isn't an addiction??"

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#Biden will be remembered well for dropping out. He'll probably be one of those Presidents people call a "good President" in historic discussions. Historians, please remember when this country needed a leader, Biden followed along with pretending COVID was gone; there are no good Presidents of the United States. America's Presidential elections are a system that kills leadership, rather than enabling it.


Seems I should redo my SIP-700/701/702 from scratch with BIP-352 silent payments

We need #dogecoin silent payments and we need them on #nostr

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To be fair, lots of people overestimate the value of money, so maybe the market cap could go that high

I just don't think that's what Satoshi was sayin


You overestimate the value of money


I find it doubtful. It seems infinitely more likely that the 21 in 21 million BTC is a reference to 7+7+7 (a jackpot), not half of 42. I'm not saying Satoshi wouldn't like hitchhikers guide, I'm just saying that part explaining how he came up with the number triggers my Spidey sense 🤙