Solid argument!

I wonder if the judges will agree...


Payjoin would be nice!


Still in whirlpool or Clark needs to update?
 https://image.nostr.build/455ff76c9a9af842062a48068d6bfa3682ee469d5d5ecedda7eaa1d1844ee81e.jpg


For now...


The website has been seized


Not so fast, you'd think they would be prepared for something like this. It was inevitable really


Jam, joinstr, payjoin


I wonder if whirlpool will continue to operate or if we'll see a large migration to join market?


I wouldn't assume too much at this stage. You'd think Samurai would have been prepared for something like this. It was kinda inevitable really

Whirlpool runs on sparrow and as I understand they use it differently (blinded inputs).


I guess it will play out in courts over the next few years.


I guess we're going to find out over the coming months.


Is it still working?


FBI?


Still the area I'm not sure about is while breastfeeding. I don't think there's a way to know during this period


True

When we finally started trying to have kids we found this out too. Knowing the cycle well should be enough


Likely

They wouldn't be thinking too far ahead as the next round of printing could send most properties above that value.


They should retire


You'd think with a wealthy boomer population this would not go down well.


This is their best attack

Tax


Glad we have it


Tastes like cancer


Lol

Now I feel safe


We limit it to 20-30mins


Segal lol


Its just physics


Macedonia


Wondering why that miner doesn't mine with Ocean all the time


Did Ocean just attempt to disrupt Runes from getting into block 840000?

This is just my opinion, but it looks like someone pointed A LOT of hash towards Oceans pool right before the halving. It was about double its usual hash rate. I think this was an attempt to block the new sh$tcoin protocol Runes from getting into their planned launch.

Nice try! The odds were not in your favor though

https://image.nostr.build/4c7d185035af66598afe4f0cecc2c59c66ef9581bdf51d99e8f8ad5e135c1323.jpg#m=image%2Fjpeg&dim=720x1520&blurhash=%5BES6PmoH%25LxuM%7CoJofj%40%7EUIVIVRk%3FaM%7BNGWC9Gt7%25Lj%5B0Lxt%25Lt6xZoLRkoe%7EVRkIVWB%250ofazWB&x=9dc002b81b86552009e0a2412b41ad7b515b93e20f77366fe971efb1df52be94


Lol,

Whoever owns this not might want to write some for extraordinary high block fees.

nostr:nevent1qqsr8936wzvgf0c3ehhuveek2j67m5mdfj6cd0jp9sckhkwvapc4f6qpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzq2spt6v0j4y2vu5lgpu34x40888j4wdvtqkutt4v2p922q8zap9gqvzqqqqqqym9twwg


Maybe wait a few weeks or months if you can.

Use lightning or liquid in the meantime


Biggest mining pools are cleaning up

https://image.nostr.build/61d7b960ca758727f952a29c4a25208c0d1b584aa0b3845e133ce9c8c813487b.jpg#m=image%2Fjpeg&dim=720x1520&blurhash=%5BJ9j%24MkDWBR%2501bFaya%7B%7EqaxoMj%5B4nbHf6f5_3ayj%40j%5B4nfRaxfR_3jvaxj%3F9Ej%5Bayf8%3FajuWUj%5D&x=4bed8f1d3fb994aa8e9b5f989a4c193e820cdfc2a145f2d9962a9821f5effe06


Butter?


Imagine a solo miner finding a block RN...


This is not bullish

Its a stunt.

Will not last


Pain


I guess if you batch one TX with 1000 outputs and pay $10k its not too bad for them.


How long do you think this will go on for?

https://image.nostr.build/10a2d7c6a2c2d75efbc98d1a4039787be458b5a00fb700af1c43ff8a5240a6f8.jpg#m=image%2Fjpeg&dim=720x1520&blurhash=%5BWD9h%40jWf6bJ00fNjba%7D_MXAoLjX0JXAWUjX_3jYfRbIDknhoLbJ-%3BfhayfSITbIbIjaScb0axfO&x=f0f536ac293d86b3960dc5c95c50f3153af7a290bd22253708b0e13a3d3d2c88


Max pain for us


viaBTC laughing RN


Dem feez


Audio?


APK?


You drive a monster truck?


About $1000 Aussie dollyroos to change my car tyres.

Wondering why no one told me that rubber is the new store of value?

https://image.nostr.build/f341145eca4b44acf3d8f40309df0c9ce0780c9411777979edf81588bc288a77.jpg#m=image%2Fjpeg&dim=1440x1920&blurhash=_FI5b%5BM%7BofV%40WVWAa%7D%7Eqofayj%5Bazayayxuf6WBj%5Bayj%5Bf8kCayf7ayjtfRj%5BWWj%5Bayf7oLazfRofj%5Bf6j%5Bj%5Bayj%5BayWCj%5Bj%5Bayj%5BfRkBbGfQfRj%5Bj%5BfQfjj%5Bjuf7j%5Bayfj&x=08b0b474ec2a396d8a9b41c8eb6e714ef97b3a9207a3da8d4243c1354feb7815


Rewarded with tbtc or airdrops?


Pretty close.

Around 30 years


I wonder if the people and companies mining with these pools know about this.


Ive always wanted to go there


Nice!

I'd like to see some kind off "success" pop up for the payment. Just to know they got it


Consistent high onchain fees


One charge lasted a week


Funded through our taxes too


Congrats


Wouldn't having only onchain contracts limit the funding from plebs? 10k plebs donating 200 sats each adds up


Beautiful


Glad you're back!


This kind of complexity still not available on a smart phone. Still a long way to go


Good luck!

I might be joining you in a few months


Someone slipped it in knowing well that no one ever reads it. Well... Almost no one


Cool project!

With the current hash rate of the pool how often are you looking at actually finding a block?


Sigh....


Nice!

What are they aiming for at the moment? One block a year?


*An 11 year old cartoon character


Lol


Winning


I'll have it if it pays in bitcoin!


Bull market over?


Competition as in having no advantage with a CPU over a GPU/asic. Its been dumbed down as in you cannot innovate.


IDK...


Imagine trying to prevent competition.

This is why monero continues to lose purchasing power in BTC


https://open.spotify.com/episode/5g4oAxyLurAhkFIPvvpzps?si=gWRx4HxBRLecZ8It2zZsrA

As an uninformed observer the main point I see from these two perspectives is that both are basing their argument off different truths.

They seem to be worlds apart and unlikely to ever come to a peaceful agreement anytime soon.


If they MUST fight, drones against drones is best until one side capitulates.


Israel always hit back harder. We all better pray they don't go all the way on this one.


A nuclear attack would be the worst outcome. Thats all I'm saying

Feel free to nuke is just a dumb remark


No, this is a terrible take

Nuclear war is the worst possible outcome.


He has some bad takes sometimes. Does he just like being controversial?


Its called runes


Looks like it. They will have a new sh$tcoin to pump after the halving too


Mostly agreed

Still seeing some clowns around though


Good opportunity for them. Fear overrides nuance.


Lol

Nah, they just had the right timing mainly with some understanding of the blues, and some clever lyrics.


HYG

Here you go


Join market? There's no one to f$ck


Winklevii?


Seems like an appropriate use for an old castle


Nice work keeping track of all the cuckery


Bass


How does it work?


Its true


Skillz


Heartwarming


Must be jaded

Did he mention "darkfi"

Cringe...


If or when the time is right. There might be better solutions in the future.


Roger and CSW were wrong. Admit it

It was the wrong time to raise block space


The editing was the amazing part....


Why not 122422?


It is until it isn't

Look into stablesats

This is a way to hold BTC that fluctuates with the USD. If BTC goes up, you get less. If BTC goes down, you get more


Still cheap

Be prepared to lose whatever you have in tether


Holding it in bitcoin might be better


tether truthers have been saying this for many years now. Still been wrong


Wow, I also had no idea


Wait... Stable sats? As in BTC that more or less pegs to USD. Or just some other USD stablecoin?


Great to see!


Good question.....

Probably a positive, but its close. I think using it for small periods like 10-20mins a day ( maybe twice a day) is about right.


The market looks like it says otherwise.


Satoshi was gen X

No doubt about it


She still got her bitcoin?


Was that during the Canadian trucker protest or more recent?


Incredible!


Mmm... Where can I try it?


Please explain


Bring back hosted channels


Wait... bitcoin had an infinite supply before BIP42?


So they are creating too many UTXO'S too fast? If it continues we might need more computing power like running nodes over a GPU or something?


What is the problem with having 4mb blocks? 2TB SSD's are pretty cheap these days. Filling 2TB will probably take another decade and the standard will likely be 4 or 8TB SSD's then.

Why is this an attack?


I'll take 40


We are

They aren't

They will in time


Am I correct in reading this as a meshnet bitcoin node?


We will see a new level of sh$tcoinery this bull run. How will they "beat" rock jpgs and dog coins?

Degens will think of something


Rock jpgs will continue?


But they do need a mattress for all that cash


How's your back end LN node?


Depends how small you consider to be dust.


How do you receive zaps?


BTC will continue to outperform

Bitcoin cash is not instant too


How is it with plain ol PDF books?


Hi


I've found that most businesses in my area that come from Asian or European backgrounds love cash. They often will quote 2 prices, cash or card. Cash is always less than card


Slap on the wrist


How big a channel?


Didn't see this in the news. What exactly is it about? Link?


I guess they could do that too


Mmm.... Sounds like a good direction to take.


No internet? No bitcoin? No nostr?


Wow...

Does it work?


I'd like to test it


You need to add a few permissions


Not anymore if true


Amen!


I like the 16GB ones that are now a few dollars


Lol

We got a long way to go


There are instant swaps with websites like fixedfloat.com and trocador.app where you can swap sh$tcoins into sats. Better charge a little more though.


Needed in every wallet


This would be nice to have


I use it too

People keep talking about Primal, but so far I'm happy with Amethyst. Maybe will give others a go down the track


I'm in the same boat.

Let me know if you wanna test


What kinda damage?


Unavailable in Australia too.

Its a good idea though. Just direct your fiat salary to your exchange and convert to BTC.

But then your BTC is KYC'd which isn't ideal.


How is it easy? Bitwage?


This is how scammers need to be talked to. Straight and direct


Those helmets look out of place


Which border?


Some things started clicking. The idea of using multiple mints to pay a LN invoice would be amazing.

Still, I'm  cautious sending my sats to a mint. Might let it play out for some time first.

Also, mints settling with other mints without Bitcoin I can't accept.


Them bricks must be heavy!


It will be an AI model of him, but positive.


Let them


Seems to be all about number going up


Bit early. Maybe 3-5 years


No idea, I just heard it in a pod once


An S9 too


Joinstr?


Lol


bout time


https://lnbeats.com/album/94c8a0bf-f76e-5f8c-ba1d-c0c15a642271/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZG9lcmZlbHZlcnNlLmNvbS90cmFja3MvcGhhdHR5LXRoZS1ncmFzc2hvcHBlci5tcDM

Nice track!


Have a link?


Gang tracking KYC or people flaunting their wealth?


How can he sell his music for LN payments? wavlake?


When bots talk to bots


Or does the price make them beautiful?


I do 4


Hi


Rent has almost doubled since COVID in my part of Sydney.

We're going to WA later this year but looks like the same is happening there too.

You'd think with the small population and huge land mass we could let supply run hot for a decade or so and get the prices in order.


Make the most of the time we have left


Blocked


Must be Hong Kong


Crazy amounts of money


lol the price!


Folks, please boost the heck out of this post so ALL the ticktockers get to see it 🙏👍
For anyone new to the idea of #zaps and #sats, let me put that in context for you... she got zapped approx $700+ USD (in today's value)... but what will that be worth in 5/10/15/20 years?🤔
Not appeal to authority ❌
Just value 4 value exchange (v4v) ✅ https://video.nostr.build/756e726cb858b3aff5d2e4d913fa86315b083220549f7b47fd72e0352c14c45c.mp4


Ep 17 of the Phantom Power Music Review is up!  nostr:nprofile1qyg8wumn8ghj7mn09eehgu3wvdez7qgewaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8xmn0wf6zuum0vd5kzmp0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qpqsmreuk4gcs0k3jdz8zzckzxy6c7pkr8x6nafd5e2jr0jt0vrkpeq78derr  ("The Usual Cats Project"), #12Rods  (@boo-bury) and #MakJamie  are reviewed!  Come geek out over gear, love the liner notes and break down the songs a bit.  Enjoy!
https://fountain.fm/episode/wnWrmtMJvARD3aBvzXrG


Wasn't the conviction on him creating fog mixer?


https://wavlake.com/track/e7645c0e-34df-489a-96d6-1ccc4b513136

Ignore that first one


<iframe src=https://embed.wavlake.com/track/e7645c0e-34df-489a-96d6-1ccc4b513136 width="100%" height="380" frameBorder="0" ></iframe>


No it doesn't......


Looks like a lot to me


When are you changing the default mint?


Most of these are LNbits too....

Could not connect to any of the other mints either


Is there a list of other mints?


Bitkey is on chain only.

It might have come a bit late as we start to pay higher fees


Why were you using LNbits?


Just getting started


Try electrum mobile


Must be fake

@fiatjaf hates lightning!


Its probably for the liquid/LN stuff then


See if it works in another wallet


Lightning on Relai now?


Only 93%? Should be 99.9%

That means there are still some believers


Hope they are appealing

Chainalysis needs to prove it


If you want in-depth information about Roman's case listen to nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx on Citadel Dispatch and hear from the legal team directly

It is shocking.

https://www.youtube.com/live/P8jTkWzvbcw?si=V2mi9iUpWMSxHu_p


Thats when the American degens come out to play


Zaps are my likes


Feels like optimism


Was that the dip?


Have never understood this


The stick is longer


Still waiting.....


Doesn't it accelerate the death of fiat currency?


Cash will still be around for a while IMO

All this talk about an overnight cash ban probably wouldn't work out well for any government


Sire


Makes sense

Rewarding bad behavior


The guy that made Roger rage quit


How so?


Water?


Me too!


Like async and WoS?


bomb threat?

It reminds me of Beijing


Not just America


This happening now?


Just put an ostrich


Who?


I'd love an easy to set up anon email.

Would pay sats for this


Pain is the best teacher


There are some good options now for businesses to start accepting LN.

open node
zaprite
wallet of satoshi


Guess it won't be ending then


They went down again?


Enable kill switch


Urdu is the same as Hindi


I'll admit I don't know enough about entropy. But is that analogy accurate?

Electrum generates a random phrase, the grid generates a random grid, then I put a random shape with my seed words somewhere.

Anyway, you're probably right.

I like the idea of BW, but it needs to be better for using an already generated seed to keep TX off chain. Its not so intuitive to me.

I might try it with an overlay, like a piece of paper with holes that sits on top of the grid and points out its order. Storage of course would need to be kept separately to the grid.


grocities?


OK, so I generate a random grid. I start my pattern at 120A which has a word "satoshi" there. The first word in my seed is "cat". The client swaps the word from wherever "cat" was, and replaces "satoshi" to its position.

Once you have input all seed words, this becomes the new grid.


What if there were an offline client where you could enter your words into your pattern, and each word that you enter is replaced randomly with another.

If the grid was randomly generated and the changed words also randomly replaced, how would that reduce entropy?


I've been playing with it. I think its good for a new wallets but seems a bit confusing for wallets already created.

Just wondering about the design. Is there a reason you can't enter old words into a new generated grid in the desired pattern?


Cuck bucks


Error msg:

Failed to extract valid number of inputs from parameters

Trying to spend from a taproot wallet. Tried on a cold card and also on a jade HWW. Both the same error msg...

#asknostr
#coldcard
#jade
#taproot


What sh$tcoin is that?


You're welcome


Does seem high

Onchaim fee's just jumped the last few days. Might have been that, or whoever routed charged too much.


A little dump for ants?


Enjoy your scams

How bout HEX? Is that a good use case? Look at the yield!


They are useless as money. OK to test on


Wow!


You don't until it gets integrated on bitcoin in some way


Easy

Sh$tcoins are useless


True that


True


WHO WILL WE DUNK ON?!!!


Better get some just in case


Again?


Looks like some of our weak hands are selling....

DO NOT SELL TO THESE MF!!!


Same with me


They are testnets


Bitcoin is destroying the USD. They will have to do something


Taxes are the States best attack on bitcoin

They will tax


GM

https://youtu.be/9EcjWd-O4jI?si=r1isV-jZb1ILGfDz


Beside the stablecoin, I don't think you need to use any of these other sh$tcoins. Just because they have a gimmick, or like to differentiate from BTC doesn't make them better.


As in I have an old seed from electrum and I want to put it into the BW matrix.


Mmm.... How about importing a 12 word bip39 seed that I have already generated?


How thick?


1000 sats per AUD


Australia too


That thing? That just goes up?


Nice and round

$1AUD = ~1000 sats


https://youtu.be/9EcjWd-O4jI?si=3swdeaxaZxBnxwAM

GN nostr


The should be though

Don't you feel like crypto is just sucking the blood out of bitcoin like a leech? They all depend on it but pay it little respect.


You are a bitcoiner if you own bitcoin


Tell them how much bitcoin you have


What a way to ruin an episode...

Please never sing that vile crap on RHRC ever again!


It's definitely not the song

But I feel a fork brewing


Its over anyway


Remember 58k?


Lol


Tell them to retract

I want 42k again!


Don't try to eat a live snake


Aliens of the earth


And we aren't the only ones too


Agreed


When the change of narrative?


Maybe for our great grandchildren


Divide the amount of bitcoin you have by the number of children and grandchildren you plan to have.

It doesn't leave us much

STACK HARDER!


MOAR what?


I remember this show from my childhood. What was it called?? Can't remember


More bitcoiners with less bitcoin?

Or

Less bitcoiners with more bitcoin?


nostr:npub1fguyv0p2whngcfzpdemjpganhmamp6ngwt26q35jcw0p368jmjkqy27896
nostr:npub1c37zfj85qq9g8a00e5hhatdw47u0j4phqf7lxd2068qp6lu9ykpshddaf4

How would you create a border wallet with an aezeed seed?


Nice propaganda

Keep it up


I'm glad it was a meme without audio


What's Creed got to do with bitcoin?


Looks like a fun game


Do both.

Just spend less than you earn.

HODL for your children's children.


Did he punch you?


bitbox users be able to coin join from their hardware wallet?


Don't F with bitcoin


Why reveal that you've done 7 mixes? Lol


Killin bass line!


Nice!


58 gang was last cycle

Its over

Accept it


Lol

Coinbase.... When will they learn?

Wen?


Beautiful!


When did he post this?


Like it always should have been


58 gang in disbelief


stacker.news is the new reddit


For your safety

Now get back on Facebook!


Is this blown out a bit?

Can't people that have similar interests meet and talk or create together? Once they submit the next release anyone can see all the changes to core


Yep

Why TF is he the favorite to win 2024?


Amazing!


Pretty cool!


Karma


On chain TX?

Why?


Welcome!


There's no one to dunk on through nostr. This is how you stay humble


What do you think they're up to?


Zero

No need


Lol!


What do you do on there?


Taxes

This was the FU thing I remember about the US. You see the price, then when you go to pay they include the taxes which is a nice little kick in the balls.


Beautiful!


What happened to him?


10% of their income/pocket money into a LN wallet. When amount is more than a million sats, transfer to cold storage.


It would have had mainstream adoption in 3 years


They could... But that ship has sailed IMO. Like with the silk road case, some FBI agents apparently took some BTC for themselves. Politicians, businesses and countries are themselves holders of bitcoin and the incentive is to play along. Democratic politicians like to get the popular vote and bitcoin has now become a mainstream popular thing now (whether we like that or not).

Bitcoin is too big. A trillion dollar market cap says something. Of course they won't just let their power go so easily which is why I think their best strategy of attack is just to tax harder.

As for monero, I think its just too small and unfortunately has a bad branding problem too. Not that I personally care about that. It has better privacy that bitcoin, but nothing else (network effects, fair distribution, decentralization, story etc).

Also privacy will improve on bitcoin as it goes on. There are countless projects working to improve different aapects of bitcoin that no one can keep up with it all.

You should look for some of these projects. I bet there are some trying to use monero properties on a pool of bitcoin. If there isn't, then you should start one.


When will they knock it down? Its been there forever


Best ways to buy LN sats in Europe?

#asknostr
#relai
#lightning


BTC is not just for the west. Russia, China and countries in the middle east are mining.

Can they coordinate (US, EU and the west) to shut down all miners at the same time? Highly unlikely.

As for the CPU.... Couldn't I just spin up 100 CPU compartments from 1 GPU? Doesn't that make it easier to attack? 1 container of GPUs could cause havoc for monero.


Only Blixt still doing hosted channels on LN now. I don't think the idea has been explored enough. This is why I like OBW


If monero had bitcoins usage and TX remained cheap, why would you bother mining? If monero had big blocks to scale all these TX who would bother upgrading their hardware to store it?Theres's no incentive, which is why it hasn't taken off.

On top of that they have some kind of communist CPU set up which doesn't allow competition.

They cannot take my bitcoin, and I'll do whatever it takes to secure it and support the network. These are run a node, coin join, LN node, spend wisely, move jurisdiction, support development, support bitcoin projects etc.

THEY WILL NOT TAKE IT!

Bitcoin will scale. Give it some time. LN is early too. There's more to come


Lol


When did he change his view? I remember him talking sh$t about bitcoin


You wouldn't run a USD ecash mint period.


This is good!


Can you exchange from one mint to the other?

If you can, thats a con.

Mints need to settle in BTC


Lol

Didn't know tr0N had UsDC


Lol

So you think monero scales? It has cheaper transactions because no one is using it. It has not been tested, just like 99% of all other block chains. Does it even have an L2?

LN needs work, but its the best L2 we have so far.

As for the KYC US gov shut down.... Bitcoin is too popular. They've let it grow too big. You think the Maxi's will just give it all up and go back to their parents basement? Lol

We saw what happened in China right? They moved to another jurisdiction. A US mining confiscation might even be a good thing as it would decentralize the network further.

Everything trends to zero against bitcoin. If you don't have any.... Well good luck with that.


It is if its trending to zero against bitcoin. Might be slow, but thats the direction


common now... nostr is up and running fine.

We need OBW more than nostr


Don't have a question

I have an order! Bring back OBW!


It wouldn't surprise me


Feels like one. I never get a reply


Joinstr up and running?


nor the Aussie mind too


Nice! Another millionaire


Still not your bitcoin


Haven't listened, but I'd like to see more push back or scrutiny of Whitney's sweeping claims. Don't just go along, dig in a bit


Does is contue to make lower lows against bitcoin like monero?


Stick to cash then


You like losing your wealth?


Terrible timing for a screenshot too!


Mempool.space new feature is pretty cool. Easy to spot the Samurai and Wasabi coin joins. I don't see too many others TBH. Has anyone seen any join market  CJ's in the wild?
https://image.nostr.build/136f7a13f75cb61b1593c4ca0775ba308737d5416e8422d02ca22df0ea9c2b41.jpg#m=image%2Fjpeg&dim=720x1520&blurhash=%5BL9tDnflWCay0KbGoLax%7Eqj%5DbIaz4nfjj%5Bay_3j%5Doga%238_fkW%3BfR%3Fbj%5BoMfRDijuWVf8.8jun%24jt&x=e516c33f8b5b666717ee52b8cbbb11fd88116acfd1b1db52b516784cd739db8f


Did she even look at what she was signing? Bet it wasn't even her


Danish worker still pays 50% tax don't forget


Would someone still on twitter mind dunking on Peter Zeihan for me?

Thanks


Have not understood why people still use legacy addresses


An attack


So it WAS Jack?


Were there any "cRyPt0" advertising during the game like in 2021?


Where are the zeros?


Try doing some slow pushups. Definitely uses the whole body. I do 10 and it feels like 20


Source


Was she singing in Dutch?


Amazing!

Is she French?


Nice steel base


These kids have talent

Wish they'd drop a few BPM though


I just zap it around


Was just talking about this the other day. A million dollars used to be something you would dream about as a kid. Now...its not nothing, but its common. Definitely not "rich"


This


Your name or something else with bitcoin in it?


What is it?


Sugar bananas


Cat fish?


You should probably read it if your writing a book about it. The crypto stuff like staking you can probably ignore. Some good stuff in there. I think A Antop helped write it.

Also... With op_vault on the horizon IDK might be worth waiting for it


Anything to add from Pamela Morgans Crypto Inheritance?


I got locked out of my stacker.news account. Login was over LN and I think when phoenix updated their model (splicing) something changed as I can no longer login.

@koob
@ekzyis
@sn


Looks amazing!


Stacker.news is the bitcoin/nostr reddit


Summary?


Surely there are more interesting things to debate?


Must be a scam


Its just fun to tease monero bugs

I don't mind Bitcoin going back down another 80%. Don't think it will though


Lucky most of your wealth is in bitcoin like your favorite maxis


Permissioned


So in 30 years the plebs will have given away a bitcoin each

THERE ISN'T ENOUGH!!!


Plebs will run out of bitcoin zapping 10k sats per day


Can't block here by the way

Welcome too


When will people realize that you don't need to live in Sydney


Don't store your wealth in monero

This is why


Imagine waking up and seeing half your lifesavings gone.

No, this is not Venezuela or Lebanon

This is #XMR

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Jail?


Does he know their founder was personally hacked?


Mk3 cannot sign or export wallet


So 2 weeks?


Still no taproot on cold card? What's going on? Its been years


Bitcoin going to zero?


Probably different speed or encoding


Here here!


US dominance


A nice game to learn young

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Send them here


Default should be never


This would be nice

My YouTube account is blocked


Still need a YouTube account?


Nice imagination


Not when 1000x more people are using it


What game is that?


Nice tinny bass line there


Monero boy wrong again


He's got everything out there already. Probably 1000's of hours of podcast and interviews


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Nice one!

I didn't know there were many jazz tracks up on wavlake


How does PoS remove methane from the environment?

How does PoS electrify poor communities around the world?


Ask them if burning methane for electricity is good


Thats how you do it!


Cramer called it


Can we still DO bitcoin?


Lol

Must be fake


Just like Ripple?


Wonder if there's a correlation to nationalism


No

I must be young


Agreed.

Will have to look into how this works with blue wallet.

Also didn't mention how to go from custodial to non custodial which has a number of hoops to jump through


Did you ask him about some Linux OS running on mobile phones like calyx or graphine?


A dying art


But they have problems zapping each other

Do not recommend


Electrum is the silent winner


Petta? Zetta?


I'm just pointing out that you consistently attack bitcoin but likely hold the most of your wealth in it. So there's little weight to your arguments because you don't really believe in monero


Nice little client for all 11 of you


What am I a search engine?

It would be interesting to see how much of your wealth you've lost holding XMR instead of BTC.


Build a XMR client

Zap in XMR

Go


Pardon misure

How much of your wealth in in XMR?


What wallet is that?


I wouldn't include countries as a community

Australia is a big place


Guys...

It's 2.1 quadrillion sats

Can't believe you didn't know that...


I agree its goid to have otger opinions but I think we've been through this before.

I'm just saying you don't make it clear to everyone that you hold most of your wealth in bitcoin and a little in monero to spend.


But you DO hold it right?

Why consistently attack bitcoin if you do?


Its just an easy way to zap. I send it all back and in good time will set up something better.

Zaps are so much better than likes


Most of them are likely politicians

More fireplaces please!


I thought fedimints are meant to be private? Why XMR if so?


So stop holding it then


How dare you!


Over 1m can send on chain

The purchasing power of BTC will make smaller amounts of sats for the purpose of LN

L-BTC has its roll too. Mainly to refill LN channels IMO


USB is $15?

I have an old 2GB one. Will that work?


He didn't stand up

He's full of shit.

Cope


Didn't trump lock you down?


Might want to check your page. LN invoices unable to generate.


Hacked wallet from a bot IMO


Ukraine have over 40k BTC?

How about Bulgaria? I thought they had a few 100k


Sh$tcoin


Thanks!

Wonder why I didn't see this before...


Is there a way of refining the search when you know the first letter of those forgotten words?


I remember this.

But did he take it down? I was looking to recover an old seed a while back.


Does BTCrecover allow you to check inas specific position? Example unsure of words 2, 6 and 11


The hoops they must jump through...


Do they expire like in LN?


I was more correcting the click bait title.


Japan is not the poorest


Japan is not the poorest country in the world


*or


With China I South Korea?


This is the way


Are we future banks? Uncle Jim's extended out a bit?

Hal might have been wrong in the "interest rates will vary" part.


Testnet first


We can still look into all the effects of inscriptions & BRC tokens. If you find that you don't like it, you can filter. Or keep learning about it until you find a "side"


Casey is pretty good with explaining aspects of bitcoin


We need more coin control in mobile wallets


Are we at that time in the cycle are we?


Wasted talent


Amazing!

Do you ever build out other peoples ideas or like to stick with your own?


Are you talking about the extra TX?


It was trading at a discount. Maybe it went back to par?


Cold channel or pending channel?

Why would one do this BTW?


1k sat coffee


Ship it under a nym


Most are still obviously linked


Will they get their bitcoin hacked or seized first?


Tell us about your electricity bill next month


I think they are still working on a static QR code through bolt 12.

In the meantime Zeus has one I believe


And the price went sideways


Some people never learn


Imagine


Of course!

Then move onto small cap sh$tcoin


I wasn't that impressed by the video. I like the price though!


Its 4am in New York


How many bitcoin will they be in custody of?


He's been wrong for many years


I expect you & Marty to shout out yourselves this RHR


bitcoin didn't pump

Were you wrong?


Mmm, sounds like the SEC looked into sh$tcoins


Need to survive it first


That was you?

Congrats!


Chuckie


Don't think I can trust my uncle Jim


Lol

Wonder if the Pentagon does 2FA...


No

There are any LN channels. Its essentially a 2/2 multisig. AKA peer to peer.

You can't get more decentralized than that.


This "compromise" will give the SEC an excuse to delay the ETF

Well played


Lol


Fees are volatile on chain. If you wait it out you can get into a block at a reasonable rate.

There are no other L2's on any sh$tcoin that work decentralized like LN. Its the best L2 so far. You could make it more centralized so you pay low fees and it's instant, but that has problems that are worse (censorship).

You think you can do better, build it!


Legend


Priorities


Trust the experts

They are always correct


Looks slick

Bet it costs $10k though


It's the highest priority IMO


Not until they're educated


When has it not been attacked?


Wouldn't surprise me


I know....

Just approve the damn thing and we can talk about interesting things again.


With X coin?


There's a lot to learn about bitcoin.

This one did pretty well IMO


#bitcoin has all of those

Money for enemies

Money for cypherpunks

Money for retards


No

They can do custodial LN until they have enough for on chain cold storage


Its still a long way down


Get used to it


I'm surprised

They had a big drop in hash earlier


Come back in March


There us this @LN2pbot


I thought it were long gone


Yes

Its still cheap


Open a big one.

Use it forever

Are the fees big now?


Side swap and green wallet


I think aqua is not the best wallet to put noKYC coin. Their privacy policy is a red flag


Thats nice imagination

Not how LN works though

I guess you can wait for other L2's in 5 years or so


Lol

Wish I were on twitter so I could dunk on him


It looked too small and instant to be on chain


Swap it yourself on boltz


Lol


It's still linked

Try using lightning (no record on the block chain). Or even mix it up. LN-LN-liquid-onchain


Lightning?


Who would mix 104 BTC like that?

You can't hide with that amount


Tis I sir


Plebs need to stack with LN first


It would be a nice ending for BSV


Firstly, I don't follow any of the BSV circus.

My question would be why would Calvin do this now? Craig could have signed this at any time? Its been many years.


Fedimints need a lot more time in the wild.

Mobile LN wallets are good for the time being.


Would be good cause I don't have enough


They're watching


Anyone know what happens after 1 year? Do they close the channel at your cost?


Amy new understanding should help mitigate unwanted closes


This would be nice.

But wouldn't it be difficult collecting data from LN nodes?


Does it work?


Surprised your profile is still there


This would be nice

I'd love an app that can transcribe music.

Or one that I could be playing with specific musicians (that are dead) on the song and style of my choice.


It was also after an insane bull market


Did you visit it first?


Who runs the federation?


Tax write off


Lol

$6


As long as they are free to continue working freely. If they start pushing for things and then threatening to stop funding this is a problem


They will have to


The cheapest way is to wait for low fees

try coinos.io for custodial LN.

Interesting that you travelled around the world to fins out now that muun is not a LN wallet


Oh, wait. Its still a bitcoin thing...

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NAME AND SHAME THEM!!!


I liked it too

I think you're right in that running a LN node is looking more like running a business or a bank. Mobile wallets are good for now as it gives us spending functionality.


I like it


This


Still don't get it

Plebs < devs


LN has a fee

Liquid also has a fee

If you swapped 1m sats it would cost about 0.1% (boltz)


Nice!

Check this one out:

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Try this:

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Check this out:

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Try printing this

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Put them in here!

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Support projects and people you like with your sats. Opensats is a lazy way to support bitcoin projects.


Permissioned


Fair enough


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This link contains the stl and step files for an Orange Pill designed for storing a 12 word seed on some 24mm steel washers.

Feel free to change it as you wish.

The link will be available for 1 week. After that you can just msg me here & I'll send it to you.

Enjoy!

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So instead of 4 days, 3 and a half?

May as well be 4 days


Google does podcasts?


Nothing like good ol data destroying narratives


Long way to go


True


That was quick!


Will be funny watching big business take profits at 20% when it continues to go into the 100's


My price target is 100sats for a coffee


Lol


That's called an exchange


I think 30sats/vb is possible these next couple years


Sad to see...

Is that Germany?


Ya got 6 months


Looks like a frog nym on the Internet.

Might want to wait for them to form an army first


Who we got?


Wake me up at 100k


Why not do both?


Brain fart


The real question is:

How will it work with monkey jpgs?


Muun is an on chain wallet


Or if the state pays mining pools out of band big fiat $$$

HNY


Yes

There's always an option to use a decoy passphrase too


Yeah, kinda obvious for an attacker that knows what they are doing.

Still it could be kept in a safe or even buried underground.


I've been working with a friend who does some 3D printing stuff. This is an orange pill designed to hold 12x 24mm steel washers with a seed phrase stamped unto them.

The 3D printed files will be released in another post for free.

Just wanted to get your opinion on which one you prefer. Also would you use something like this? I personally really like the idea of steel washers being cheap and available all over the world. You stamp your seed on it and its pretty much indestructible. The orange pill is just makes it more aesthetically pleasing.
Here are some photos:

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It better...

Or all might be lost


No


There are 2 types of LN channels

Clearnet

Unannounced channels (private)


But meme first!


It looks like BS


Where do they get the data?


Looks like those dark side shooting robots from star wars

What's the equipment? K'nex?


Lol

He now works for Udi's wizards!


So more nodes running ordisrespector?


Then what?


Hard to know with all the unrecorded LN channel payments also


There are still privacy focused bitcoiners that likely outnumber all monero bugs

We need more.

Education


1 coin join

payjoin all on chain TX

Big ones to open a LN channel

Fedi.... We'll see


Are you suggesting a fork?


Did you zap someone with a Zeus wallet?


Just zap whatever post you like


Forced close incoming


Monero is still on binance

But yeah... Why would you?


Interested to know how big that would be, and how far away from the house?


Where?


It was similar with the one with Gigi & Pablov. Sometimes I ask why am I listening.... Still I do, and I like it too!


Ossify maximalist?


LN doesn't record every TX on the base layer. Just the opening and closing of a channel.


The worst part is it's from an IPhone.


Respect!


How often does it make an on chain TX? Once a day?


I like what you're doing. Hope it gets bigger


Is this effective with only 0.1% of total hash?


For your safety


Just in case you were serious


Not a company


So I guess it will take some time to get merged?


Nice!

But does it even need a BIP?


Which means they can sell suits bitcoin without owning any bitcoin


They may never realize that


Yeah, I have done this going through the Chinese border. I made sure I had it down a fee weeks before hand.

But as soon as I arrived I had written in down again. Have forgotten previous seeds in the past so I don't advise this for long periods of time. We can forget if we don't constantly repeat it.


Source?


Memorization will take more time in the long run. You'll need to consistently go over the words. Also its good to have more than 1 seed.

Put them into steel. Set & forget

But don't forget where you put it!


Where are you going?


Bad advice to memorize a seed.

Although it's possible to do this, 1000x better to write it down or stamp into steel.


Legend!


First step:

*bitcoin


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Not a dev but I'd love some for education purposes


Good job!


Could you not just ask it to do so?


A lot of small businesses in Australia have a 10-20% surcharge on major public holidays. They also need to pay employees 2x hourly wage.


Beautiful!


Doubtful

Its a way to get money out of the CCP's hands


Will scratch up those pretty floor boards


I highly doubt you can get rugged.

They HAVE been sending other data off to a third party though.

Best to stop using it. Even if you're using it with electrum or sparrow


Amazing!


Winning


Interested to hear more.

You are the first I've heard talking about this


How do you know they're using acinq for their channel management? Are you talking about trampoline routing?


Cold storage on chain?

Bad advice

it will cist you that much to send a TX


Where's this?


*who will take half your bitcoin in a divorce


Less than 20% or more than 80%

I was running a LN node on a raspi too. One day I went to bed & had a few channels get forced closed. So I decided to shut it down as we're early and that this "set it & forget it" way could cost you.

I'm waiting for a few things to start running one again. Being more secure is a priority for me


Taleb


One of these things is not like the others


Xmas day might be better


Do you floss?


3rd option? (Most spam)


Trivial as in your node can always find the right channel to rebalance?


Out of interest how balanced are your channels?


Can you send a TX for zero fees and pay out of band?


Should we thank Casey?


Correct answer


Do they even have to buy the BTC?


Apple only use Apple


Where did the sats end up?


Ahh, that's why I couldn't see it


How much?


Still have any S9's?


Pfff


Yes, I'm still trying to understand if they're all LND or get forced closed for other reasons.

But if you are to run a LN node and open/close channels you're going to run it with more seriousness like a business. Not just open random channels to random plebs


It wasn't the entire 10 months. We had 1.01sat/vb going though at the end of April & also October.

Let's see after this coming bull run. 3 years from now if they're still doing this BS. They will eventually run out of money.

But also, for LN channels/coin join we need to be really sure about it in this environment. I'd pay $100 to open a LN channel if I really have to.


Does this ghost address look like LNurl?


Yes sir!


Think I'll quit my fiat job when a coffee costs 1000 sats


CPFP?

You sure this was a forced close?


Would be good to get a definitive answer. I guess they got time for that though
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It should probably say it somewhere.


That would suck


Thats a good analogy actually...

#bitcoin is a cockroach


Of course, but what happens at the end?


How much & for how long?

I'm wondering what happens if you have too many sats when the term ends.


Lol


Have you tried Alexander technique?


Why we settle on 440 these days?


Is every alt coin 1:1 value with BTC?


What is van city?


So true

Or am I getting old?


I don't think these examples are sufficient evidence that electrum is using Async on the back end.

One is a bug specific to Android. The other had a very small LN channel so it's not surprising that it got forced closed.


How so?

Is taro even out yet?


Its hard to know, but having a 10m sat UTXO is quite big. Remember whatever it is, it will cost the same for both.

Also CTV might bring a more stable fee environment.

Its all speculation, but I'm interested if anyone has done any studies into this


I'd probably ask how he can guarantee 5%


I think 1m sat UTXO's should be OK to hold well into the future.

Spending 100k per TX at an estimated 1000sat/vb average is 10% right? I think thats reasonable to pay for the security of bitcoin on chain.


There is no top

Keep stacking


Then they will continue having sh$tty lives


Lol

We will meet again don't worry


When putting onchain UTXO's into cold storage you need to lower your time preferance. Why are they going into cold storage? Because they won't be spent for a long time. So give it some time.

Now you know that you need larger UTXO's after your force close, wait till you get fees that you think are reasonable to send into whirlpool.

With a bit of wizardry in LN and you don't really need to coinjoin. But now might not be the best time to be opening channels.

BTW I worked as a dishwasher for years. Put on bitcoin podcasts or audiobooks so you can learn at the same time (which offsets the low pay).


I think so


Do we think unannounced LN channels will grow with the recent off boarding of US citizens?


It's federated by different members like block stream, bitfinex, I think boltz are part of it too.

So my understanding is that "the bitcoins" are in a multisig wallet, validated by most of the members. Peg in 1:1


Separate block chain


Oofff

Is that a muun wallet?


Lol

Bit early bro. Not even available yet


Its true


I hear wrapped BTC on etherium sits in a bitgo wallet


The wechat of bitcoin....

The holy grail...


Lol


All LND?


Don't use whirlpool in a high fee environment

LN is private enough


You weren't prepared

I'm not assuming anything

Let me remind you gently. On chain is for long term savings in larger denominations. LN is for everyday spending.

Don't know who you're trying to fuck... There are no women in bitcoin


Have you heard of lightning or liquid?
Now's a good time to learn.
Next time you'll be prepared


Can we just get them lower one more time?


It's true


You said green wallet has LN. You still need to pay for opening a LN channel though right?


Did you open a channel with these high fees?


Paying for data harvesting?


Wen?


Make use of swaps into LN or liquid.

For example: If you need to spend on chain BTC 500k sats with a 200k, and a 100k change, line up that change into a swap (bolts/robosats) for LN or liquid.

This way you're able to spend on a second layer for smaller purchases.

As for your DCA, you need to set a higher limit for withdrawal. Say more than 1m sats.

And your kids should be receiving their allowance via LN.  When they have saved a larger amount (over 1m sats) they can transfer on chain if its worth doing.


Do you think ordinals/BRC20 will be around in 2032 when the block reward is less than 1 bitcoin?

I'd say lightning channels & conjoins are the buyers of last resort. Ordinal/BRC20 will buy at ANY price, and have a high time preference (which is why it is spiking currently)


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How much is that? 2 coffee's?


Really?

Well, you're the first one that I've seen saying this. I've never had a forced close on electrum, but I have on a bunch of LND wallets.

Where can I read more about this?


They get dumber every version


Bitcoin/nostr needs something like this:
https://www.workaway.info/


Looks like runes will have a lot less impact in regards to block space.

IDK sh$tcoiners gonna sh$tcoin


Get these guys on geyser


Sometimes I glance at the ABC to see that they're still doing covid


I'd like to know if anyone using it for solo mining has ever found a block


I think the trampoline routing jumps to either async or electrum.

I would also like to know more details, but Thomas has created an amazing wallet. It wouldn't surprise me if he built it himself


Its a bit of a pain at the moment which is why I'm just using custodial Alby.

I found mutiny pretty good for sending zaps, but then got forced closed....

I'm interested in trying Zeus for receiving but do they really take a 50% fee?


Zap it out


Maybe this is a LND thing? How is electrum able to avoid forced closes in high fee environment?


Don't core devs test out new versions for a few months before releasing it to the public?


Its the response time

Too long. It needs to be instant 24/7


Exactly what a human would say.

Want to know what gave you away?


You sound like a human


How old are you?


The biggest priority


When did tether ever say they're decentralized?


In a barrel?


Very few people using knots


As long as it works


Why can't mining pools have a "backup" template filled with 1sat/vb TX ready to go for those first few seconds?


And for scaling too


So thats what he looks like...


Good lesson learned


Even in Australia there are very few living off grid. We really do need a breakthrough in energy tech to get this happening. It can't just be for the wealthy


I'd like to see it.

Unlikely Craig would implement as they already have Samurai's stonewall function


I dont think off grid solar wouldn't work in the UK. Not enough light.

Grid + diesel powered generator as a backup until nuclear plants become popular


Can you broadcast a bitcoin TX via ham radio?


Does starlink fix this?


Wow...

Don't they produce gas?


on chain analysis?


Time to go outside


Look at these plebs zapping your pain away


Can we get this on electrum or sparrow?


Magoo on nostr?


Fair start


Except the 2nd one is a man

Lol


I mean can you download via APK? I don't do google app store anymore


APK?


How do you know if they're American if no KyC?


https://open.spotify.com/episode/1HjWhodqjtPqsynojqGQYi?si=7ajalmL-SdmpPLD_w2-inA

Watch this podcast if you like the sound of giggling teenage girls.

Also, a couple of good points about China by G.
- Electricity is subsidized in some parts of rural China.
- The CCP needs to be responsible for its citizens, so they must ban "crypto" for their safety.

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KYC?


Once a week

Sometimes more, sometimes less


Nice


Agree

USB, flash drive, calculator, mp3 player all have shapes suitable for a HWW


Trolling?


wen?


Close to zero


Why doge get a pass?

DODGY


Normally politicians veer to popular opinion. I'm wondering with all the recent noise if she's becoming more or less popular....


Still very few, but people are learning that liquid can be put to good use in a high fee environment


*TRILLIONS


Not if they have 0.1% of all hash


Nice!

More dispatch please


Why does it say "wallet" ?


If we stop talking about them, they will go away


WTF is this then?

Lol
https://image.nostr.build/3d8c16e06d2c6ab6785791587d5423f911e8b62a57fe267c0e2d3e24a4dcc437.jpg


Similar to LN but you don't get instant payments with liquid. Also not many people/businesses accept it.

I like the idea of using liquid for smaller "change" on chain. For example if a phone costs 950k sats, I spend a 1m UTXO & peg out the 50k sat change.

Repeat and after many times you can consolidate & peg back into on chain.

I guess you could do the same with LN too


Correct answer


Can also use robosats & deezy for swaps


But they won't remember that of course


Are there really any 3D printed guns inscribed onto bitcoin?


Bitcoin always surprises us in both directions. Be prepared for both


Crazy!


Store your wealth in beer


Use liquid for confidential transactions


So true


That real?


Wonder if thats accurate


You need a name first


WTF is this?


When it comes down to it, people defend bitcoin


Are you still uploading to Spotify & apple podcasts?


Gigi done it again


What was the difference in leaving those out compared to the ones that got in?


Aren't they the most profitable at the moment with zero fees?


Good question....

I can't answer cause we have bitcoin now


Ocean won't be able to stop ordinal/inscriptions. If anything, they are bringing publicity to them by omitting from their blocks.

I agree they can do what they like though.


You'll still get a certain type of bitcoiner polling here. Nostr is kinda for maxi's at the moment, so they will lean in the direction of spam


Must number them


With nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m s money?


https://github.com/johncantrell97/bip39-solver-cpu

Anyone ever used this?


Is John Cantrell on nostr?


Up only


They probably should have mentioned it in their launch.


I think they aren't going to be able to stop ordinal/inscriptions. Their hash rate is too low & most other mining pools are happy to earn those fees.

Its more of an idealistic standpoint for what bitcoin should be used for. Plebs that agree can point their hash there


Pools always have been able to censor. They can do what they want. Some censor low paying TX to get the highest reward. Others like Binance pool like to put their own TX in their blocks.

Remember the guy that sent Dashir 1 BTC from a 10k UTXO & paid zero fees? Maybe that's not censorship, but it was a free pass from a privelaged position.

We will only see if Ocean survive when they put their fee in a few months. The market will decide


Mine also


You said stone & the HWW is made if stone

Don't you hate people that ruin jokes?


It would be bad for their business if they did


Nice pleb channel


I like reaper (DAW) free & open source

I guess any powerful laptop would do.

That should be enough for electronic music. If its acoustic or live then the room & mics are pretty important


I guess you could


My data is not free


Still need a google account to sign in


An ATH should do the trick


Criminals


Similar to trezor?


Sounds like bass players in bands.

Unappreciated

Unnoticeable


The good more than makes up for the bad. So many amazing resources on his website


Why?


Its for your safety


There's nothing humble about nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx

Thats why we love him


Pick a side anon


Lol


Don't buy nano


Bit late to say this now


Problem is they are still hanging around like leeches

They will unfortunately start breaking out when BTC flattens out a bit


Turn off all price indicators


ARK, fedimints, liquid all have custodial risks


We'll see when ARK arrives. Its at least a few years away.

Best to make use of what we have now. LN & liquid are good for spending when on chain fees are high


How will bitcoin scale?


Check out on chain fees now

This


Liquid is a nice tool to make use of


Welcome to Sydney Australia


Thats why I only zap


You're not staying humble... lower those cases pls


Well...it was a nice little pump for ants.

See you at $8k


Nice


Same

I have like 50c from distro kid waiting to hit $5 to withdraw.

Put my stuff up on nostr:npub1yfg0d955c2jrj2080ew7pa4xrtj7x7s7umt28wh0zurwmxgpyj9shwv6vg and have 30k sats.


Wouldn't mind...


Please remain humble


Can't remember what I used to talk about before bitcoin


Zap more

nostr is not a job


It doesn't secure the network though


I don't think ETF investors GAF about self custody

As for the rest of you DON'T DO IT!


Lackstreet Boys


How about some sats instead?


The climate gods will not be happy


Then the mint is custodial


Yep

It wouldn't surprise me if it were real


I know

I mean, it's essentially trading though right?


I think your target market is the broader crypto space.

nostr is kinda a bitcoin maxi echo chamber. That's why I'm here personally


That last one real?


This says it all


Use of AI might offset some intelligence.

Defend yourself physically against anyone with a gun?


Nailed the thinkboi!


Heaps!


Congrats


Booooo!! How dare you!


Its all good, no need.

I'm just interested to see what it creates!


Opengraph?

I received the invoice, payed it, then got a payment received, then the picture


I've tried in both chromium & brave browsers


dead cat bounce


Amethyst


Tibet?


Why am I not hearing any music?


No music?


I remember those days....


I'll try this again...

nostr:npub1rlfaaaal29097arpaqflh7x98r8yyc075utazmar3g7kyzfr6wzszhyg5u/create a short music clip of some funky, dirty, Herbie Hancock, live feel.


nostr:npub1rlfaaaal29097arpaqflh7x98r8yyc075utazmar3g7kyzfr6wzszhyg5u A short music clip of some funky, dirty, Herbie Hancock, live feel. /music


nostr:npub1rlfaaaal29097arpaqflh7x98r8yyc075utazmar3g7kyzfr6wzszhyg5u A short music clip of some funky, dirty, Herbie Hancock, live feel.


*digital seashells


Zeus fee's are high IMO


I was hoping you were going to tell me Nth Korea is going to adopt a monero standard.

...

As the masses fiat continues to degrade in purchasing power, some of them will have to recognize bitcoin as better money. They will need to learn, like everyone else about self custody & privacy. If they don't, then they will suffer in one way or another


Lol


You got lucky


So you're saying monero doesn't have a scaling solution because its not for the masses.

OK thanks


So what's a monero scaling solution? Or they don't plan to have many users?


Sounds like cope


Is that from too much hash?


Share your work please


Will he pay it back in jpgs?


DCA

So simple


I guess they'll fit right in


So monero is not instant. Thanks for sharing. The other problem is that monero is not bitcoin where as lightning is.

Higher fees on chain pays for its security

Lightning has lower fees & is instant. The tradeoff is security.


So monero isn't instant

Thanks


When will they find a block?


Is it instant?


https://www.futurebit.io/

Is this a miner or a node?


Probably jpgs


When will ocean find a block?


You may have a different perspective on bitcoin because of your belief. I'm honestly surprised their aren't more Muslim bitcoiners. Maybe there are, they're just communicating in Arabic.

As for those pictures, thats the first I've seen. I saw some of Milei with the WEF too, but generally I have other stuff to pay attention to than politics.

Are they absolutely Zionists or did someone just Photoshop those images?


There ARE a lot of monero trolls on nostr


Lol

I guess the sarcasm wasn't obvious


With what?


What's LN box?


Still better than paying $5 on chain fees though


So you are a monero minimalist?


This guy

https://image.nostr.build/3d1fb634f0a8ea1e5bfbff729989f24db3b164f4c6ee1a7a4c8914f80fc4b434.jpg


Bitcoin is for enemies

Its also for populist politicians


It is

Sell your bitcoin if you think so


If thats it, you still need to know not to share those 12 words, to never show it in front of a device with a camera, to probably putinit in steel, to also make another backup stored at another location, to use a strong passphrase....there's no way around it. You must learn.

But yeah, you could just get some bitcoin & just live your life. No need to become obsessed


They might not use it in the right way if they don't


What a smart arse


Monero is not a perfect solution either. There are less people using it & there are still ways of linking on ramps to spent amounts

If bitcoin had a "monero space chain" or "monero drive chain" (taking the speculation out) would you use monero?


So you hold more bitcoin than monero right?

You say lightning isn't private & so you'll pay those on chain fee every time you swap into monero


Sounds fair


Nice!

Pity the US can't use it though


Calyx


Don't twit this shit

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Have they found any blocks yet?

What rig do you have?


I got a hit too

No idea why but thanks!

https://image.nostr.build/be79fb35d6e48ad9e12ff64c9428e8513599534633476665c7a4169b69afceaf.jpg


No, its just like why do I need anything else? Why bother swaps to monero when I get good enough privacy with lightning?


Yep

The problem I have is that some monero bugs act like they don't hold any bitcoin. And some might not!

Also, distracting newbies to monero because it has better privacy is bad form. Its similar to the XRP is faster BS. Isolating 1 aspect like its the only thing that matters.


Sad that that's how he will be remembered.

Rat poison guy


Rat poison guy?


You're a legend!


Private LN channels have been working well for me, but you can do what you like.


No

Just proving a point that storing anything for long periods of time trends to zero in bitcoin terms.

But talk more about $5 fees please


Change key


Not when you coin join


You get good enough privacy with bitcoin, & its getting better.

You don't need monero.


Cause this

https://image.nostr.build/e7afd694627a8cb4ee68792daf741c1441e191f8236c38a8de5e02557ce2f21f.jpg


Been waiting for this


Nice but I don't think they will just go away that easy


Like this?

https://image.nostr.build/e7afd694627a8cb4ee68792daf741c1441e191f8236c38a8de5e02557ce2f21f.jpg


When was that recorded?


Too much happening in bitcoin land... Can't keep up


This is the next ICO & NFT bubble


Someone got a TL:DR on spacechains?


You talking about stratumV2?


Where's the data stored?


They aren't getting mine


*she said on the internet


I think it will be more like the Chinese revolution where they attacked the rich & intellectuals


Too dangerous


More of this!


Attacks make us stronger


human action right there


Its hard to know cause its closed source & they never really wrote anything about how it works on the back end.

I'd be interested in seeing some on chain TX sent to WoS & how they used it on the actual block chain.


Correct answer


When whirlpool & wasabi adding join market liquidity to make a massive privacy pool?

Why not?


Solved

Just like that

Game over


$5 billion is still big.

Which exchanges do more than that?


It will continue till they've depleted their reserves & people stop buying dumb sh$t


Lol


This.

Imagine how many more sats you'd have instead of paying gym membership.


Do you think they should go get jobs?


Does this work inside a google AUTH?


How did it get hacked?


Did you say the B word?


Fuck that guy


Is that the "bitcoin us going to zero" guy?


If you didn't "back up" don't delete your wallet


Soft attacks have been ongoing

I think we're going to find out who's in it for NGU & who's in it for freedom money when bitcoiners need to spend a lot of their stack protecting the network


Not where it matters.

China's been banning bitcoin from the beginning


Maybe they just prioritize sh$tcoins.

Still early days my friend. State attacks might just create the push for more private LN channels


Still works

I think this whole "rug" argument is a bit overblown.

Still the lesson remains the same NYKNYC


The only indicator you'll ever need


What battle is that?


Lucky for us they move slow AF


So true


How does that work?


I've heard they log your IP address. As long as you haven't "backed up" your wallet it should still be relatively anon if you're using a vpn


Yep


Flex back


WW3 ends in the US


Will you be next?


Why not announce first?


Good ol trusty electrum

Oh wait, you said iOS. Not many I'm afraid. Phoenix


The attack on bitcoin hasn't started yet. This chart is wrong


They will when they have to


Apple flexing

Opt out


Still waiting on rockstar's video on pay join....


Yes!!!

Panic!!


"shout out to us"

Lol


Sleepcoding is the new sleepwalking


That's right, they should have prepared for this by having an APK version


When strike?


Sounds OK

They weren't really doing much with it anyway


Go easy on the price stuff

If I wanna see moon boi'z I'll go to YouTube


Become a massive LN node

Provide more liquidity to join market

Support more projects I like


Where is he now?

Anyone heard from him recently?


These kids are amazing!

Still have hope in music for the future


You heard it here first, nostr:npub1art8cs66ffvnqns5zs5qa9fwlctmusj5lj38j94lv0ulw0j54wjqhpm0w5  and I just dropped episode 85! It covers Bitcoin Core v26 as well as the recent OFAC situation.
https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/fgiPyBKpXEb


Big disappointment.

I guess the bear market was too much for him


DNM?


Looks like fun testing that out


I'd like to see more alternatives to telegram.


I guess they just saw the truth


Meet is like a telegram?


Where is Chun based?


It wasn't a victory cause the guys accepting all the bitcoin didn't coin join & use private LN channels.


Listen to 10k hours of Guy then get back to me


Was kinda hoping you would read it yourself. Getting sick of Guys voice. Lol


Which important point did I not address?

But yeah, I don't think you're going to convince me on monero so we can stop & get on with our lives


You know that's the same 1 guy right?

I don't think bitcoin has won. If it failed tomorrow I'd still be OK (although disappointed)

I think this "discussion" started when you rightly pointed out that liquid is not anonymous. I just think that monero is a sh$tcoin & you seem to be very attached to the need for monero. I think that if you use bitcoin with coinjoins, private lightning channels soon to be pay join or post mix stonewalls you have good enough privacy. So I don't need to look at monero for now.


You've been sh$tting on bitcoin this whole time!
Lol

& just because 1 LN dev found a theoretical attack doesn't mean it is going to be successful. Unannounced channels have been working pretty well for me so far. But we'll see soon enough I guess

The future of bitcoin developed is vast. Honesty there will be no need for monero in the coming years. Monero devs better find a way to "bridge" to bitcoin before becoming obsolete.


So how much do you earn mining monero? Is it more than the cost of electricity?

There are second hand asic markets. People can buy & resell or move juristriction.

Open markets usually have one or 2 companies that dominate. That's what competition is about. But go ahead & restrict mining to the lowest form.


Who?


Miners can switch pools as they like.

CPU mining sounds good until you think about it a little more. What's stopping amazon or google from spinning up 100k CPU's? Probably cause its worthless


& you do? Lol

Why not other privacy sh$tcoins like zcash, nimble wimble etc?

All I'm saying is I don't have time to look in depth into sh$tcoins.

A few rounds of coin joins is good enough for an in chain payment. Using a post coin joined UTXO & opening up a private LN channel is good enough privacy. Yes, they can be improved. Yes, they will be improved

Maybe if I wanted to buy illegal drugs monero might be better. BUT storing your wealth in monero is a bad idea. It will continue to trend to zero against bitcoin.

If you own zero bitcoin, you're doing it wrong.


That's right, I don't have time to look into monero. If you want better arguments you probably shouldn't be arguing with a pleb.

There's too much happening in bitcoin. Its also too important to let go just because one sh$tcoin has better privacy. Better privacy will come to bitcoin in upper layers & I'm comfortable I know enough to use it privately today

You guys are very persistent though which is heart warming. Say hi to Fluffy for me


CPU mining


I'm just fuckin around here ya dumb fuck

There are so many reasons monero is a sh$tcoin, security, tail emitting etc

Enjoy that one horse trick with the 11 others using it.


Me too....

All good, I'll just wait for it


Please finish OBW


Is that real?


You like losing purchasing power?


IDK $100 is a lot of sats


My bad

Is this inflation?

https://image.nostr.build/e7afd694627a8cb4ee68792daf741c1441e191f8236c38a8de5e02557ce2f21f.jpg


Can happen

I'm prepared.

You really have no bitcoin? Seriously? All in a ghost chain sh$tcoin?


LN


I think it happens once every week or two


Lol


You like this one?

https://image.nostr.build/e7afd694627a8cb4ee68792daf741c1441e191f8236c38a8de5e02557ce2f21f.jpg


Discovering monero shills are super annoying on nostr

At least we don't have xrptards.

Yet....


https://image.nostr.build/140c1751c571a98628bc0253ba56c695eaedd6c22a49556a134bd9eb95295513.jpg

https://image.nostr.build/222d2cb0c7f9e410adfbfb1ccf9a2ea7d6fbb9055f5f49c782eb3998e4a7a48d.jpg

https://image.nostr.build/e4b36bf80628a4e1bca72611bab688ae4c928ffd983a68ae95b5e3060ffd526b.jpg

https://image.nostr.build/9afb4e20ced927caf58c1e48a214d9cec038fc9cb0ed055284e48664e7a74410.jpg

https://image.nostr.build/ed23e348ac3581891cc24ee9484856fd7f299a54ab8b30bd2651569adf891e0b.jpg


I'm genuinely interested in how this plays out. I've seen some people say he's not pro-bitcoin.

What's he going to do with the IMF loan? Will the pesos tank? Will he tell Canada to GFY? Its just interesting to me personally. You never see politicians openly speak like that


Are you going back now?


I've been hodling my NOSTR coins for 10 years waiting for this exact moment


Wow


OMG


Careful there

https://image.nostr.build/339534777e6559abe57174d4bd7711de620249cfa62209c16a4736aeaa6fbcd5.jpg


OG's have been accustomed to paying low fees.

I'm personally prepared for the next 6 months or so with lightning & some liquid to refill lightning channels. But Im probably not prepared for a 2 year raging bull run & the traffic it will bring.

Sometimes you just have to pay more.


This wasn't the only one. If you really want to hold onto your bags, good luck.

I don't have time to intricately look into & debunk every sh$tcoin


I know about it.

But monero has had a bunch, more likely to be discovered too.

Stop using monero bro, there are many reasons why its a sh$tcoin


No

They focus too much on sh$tcoins


*mass


Good luck with that


https://cointelegraph.com/news/newly-found-monero-bug-may-impact-transaction-privacy-developers-warn

This was not the only one.

Good luck with that


Be prepared for a number go down. Thats a win win


& they were able to receive?


Zero


Spend more money? Monero is trending to zero against BTC

Don't really have time for sh$tcoins bro

That's why I left twitter


Inflation bugs get discovered every now & then in monero.

Stick with bitcoin


Privacy on bitcoin is good enough if you know what you're doing. Unannounced LN channels have hops in between, there are trampoline routing too. You don't need to sh$tcoin.


Monero can't verify their supply. Smaller group of people use monero so privacy isn't as good as you think.

Unannounced lightning channels are private.


What's that silver worth now?


I'm prepared for high fees, using have a bunch of LN mobile wallets as well as some liquid.

What I meant is that many "influencers" have been saying LN is cheap & fast. Something like "I bought a coffee & the fee was less than 1 cent"

As i understand it high on chain fee periods also increase lightning fees.


Looks like twitter


Not the big fail

But not what we were told. LN seems optimal for businesses to accept payments.

Not sure what's going on with Phoenix, my one seems to be working well. My favorite phone LN wallet is electum. Still working like a charm


undefeated!


Lol

Imagine wearing this on a windy day


Liquid has hidden amounts which is good, but the addresses can still be linked.

If you want privacy (yes! don't use monero!) you should coin join or use an unannounced lightning channel.


This is old


Oh, so you can connect a wavlake account to an Alby/Mutiny wallet to zap instantly instead of generating an invoice, leaving WL, opening up yourLN wallet & then paying.


How does this work?


Yes


Wen?

nostr:nevent1qqsr83dacd9pvlrwycktmjarpt8p9704fygv3t8tfxc9ztsyly98dmgprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnrdakjuct4qgsfrjd9ux5hgsg5cmlz6cdwfh5zv2024g8m2t6g9zqf83l8uqm0svsrqsqqqqqpc69sns


Amazing!


I'm imagining some kind of drone


Getting forced closed in mutiny creates a bad impression.

I understand why they did it.

Hope this doesn't turn into another Samurai/Wasabi BS soap opera drama.

Figure it out people!


I've been waiting for a long form nostr client. I'd like to have one for short posts & news, another for long form. Sometimes you click 'more' on a Lyn Alden post & a book scrolls down.


https://geyser.fund/project/payjoin

This is one project well worth supporting. I'd love to see more wallets adopting payjoin to keep transacting on chain private.

It would make things simple. After an initial conjoin there would be no need for any postmix gymnastics. Just a simple obfuscation with a few inputs.


It might take decades before they burn through all their bitcoin


Check it the liquid fees at the moment


Love the low fees!

Not understanding the "1.5" layer here though


Interesting...

Is the tide turning in Europe?


Love the fee on liquid!

Its lower than lightning

https://image.nostr.build/6e5ee0072dd335bda7c7f9f2a1f2f7d98d2f2026d527f714bf957d3e924e90bc.jpg


Thanks!

Amazing


I'll take it!


What phase are we in? Still testing?

This is perfect for on chain TX post coin join.


No

That's the coinbase


Lol

This real?


Liquid doesn't coin join


Join market (Jam)


Even though there are numbers on the 3d print, better also label the steel washers. Imagine opening this the wrong way & them all falling out of order 😱


Payjoin from an exchange?


Nice!

How thin is it?


Agreed.


This is OK, but remember they still know you own bitcoin


What a tool


LN even better


Nice!


Amazing how they had to find out this way

NYKNYC


Lol


Casa is not an exchange

Play nice


Yes

https://1209k.com/bitcoin-eye/ele.php

Sparrow have some listed nodes. There's also a lost of electrum servers you could use too in the link


That's to obstruct chain analysis companies.

If you never conjoin & you get attacked (criminal/state), they can see your bitcoin & all its past


True

Mixed bitcoin is more valuable too


Mmmm, tempting

Would have to visit Paraguay first


Always has been

Once your bitcoin leaves the exchange & is conjoined, it NEVER goes back

Be happy


Coinjoins don't mix well with exchanges.

Once they come out, they should never go back


A beast of a boy


Hope my kids get to taste a bit of that


How many vendors?


Its a fight


What exactly are you doing?


mustn't

Only Brits say this word


Innit


Didn't quite catch who "they" are

Names?


Bruv


Just a 1 in 9 trillion chance


Anyone have a link to the live F-bomb?


5 months till the halving

There will be crazy sh$t happening on NOSTR soon.

Also $5 million won't buy you much after the next wave of printing


Those are the people that rise to the top


This is how you get engagement


This is why the cold card (mk3) should be an actual calculator


Lol


Legend


Agreed

Waiting for normie news confirmation


Join market is the place for now.

Not sure about the rest. Got tired of the Samurai/Wasabi BS so I use join market


Try again


Lol

Canadians are getting 'protected' extra hard


Pretty clever yeah?


Yes

More thought is needed about spending precious sats. Are we going to keep them in strong hands or send them through another cycle till they land in strong hands again for the sake of "spend replace" mantra.


Currently we have hosted channels on lightning (Ex: SATM & Dundee channels). If these HC could be dynamic, as in being able to change size depending on how many sats you put in, there is no need for any ecash/fedimint.

Since the newbie needs to deposit BTC into a ecash/fedimint protocol to get started, why can't they just stay on lightning?

#ecash
#fedimint


So true


Looks like Freddy Mercury


Not in the south 🦘


Who's that guy?


Careful, still beta. I got my channel forced closed from zapping Lyn Alden


Spotify

Best pod with the worst name?

The Bitcoin Dad Podcast


They're just playing the same old fiat games


And everywhere else in the world!


100 SATs on Antpool


Do you need to write a book every post?


Thanks!


The things we take for granted


https://stacker.news/items/303620/r/OT

Anyone using a stack of steel washers to backup your seed?

What size are you using?


I'd like to hear the full debate. Yaron's book about capitalism was an eye opener for me.


Maybe, but it's not by much


Better make it 50 years


Until your mutiny wallet closes your channel cause you zapped the wrong guy


Legend


Don't be surprised if it takes another 10 years too


#asknostr

Anyone know of a speech to text app for android (apk)?


1 sat is annoying


Did he say the B word?


Orange one looks nice!
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nostr:npub1mutnyacc9uc4t5mmxvpprwsauj5p2qxq95v4a9j0jxl8wnkfvuyque23vg got forced closed earlier.

onchain wallet has a balance, but none available when I try to send

Any idea?


Can't delete twitter?


I think they never went away.

It could be a BRC20 token or possibly a 'stamp'


All custodial LN would be 2/2


Probably SARS or general pollution purposes


The fiat era


Yes sir!


I see a lot of Buddhism in bitcoin. Might write about it one day


Must have been forgotten or conveniently ignored


It can't do multi Sig?


What option?


Yes, that looks like a design flaw. Unless it says that anyway (as in you haven't set up a duress pin).

Best is to use multiple passphrase. One with a little BTC & the other with a lot more. Wrench attack forces you to reveal some & hope they accept it & leave happy.


Feels like disbelief

Still 6 months till the halving

Just relax & keep stacking


Have a similar problem. I can zap but cannot received zaps


WTF!?


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Wavelake needs more artists


Seems OBW is kinda over


I'm not sure hamas GAF


Mangosteen


Naughty naughty


Looks like we didn't kill sh$tcoins

Maybe next cycle


Nice!

Now we're only down by 50%


Get David on the pod


50k is the minimum. What's the upper limit?


10k include the TX fee?


With the other 3 people using it


The new Zeus is open to everyone now?


You mean the entire history of the block chain?


This is fake


The legend himself!

Wondering why you didn't offer him a few "carbon footprint" counters from Cross, Batten or Gladstein?


The chip is from bitmain?


Planning to...

I heard it as they've done nothing so far


The asteroid of course


Current block is my time zone


If you had a tight community wouldn't you help her?


Jeff Booth almost went there in a debate with Gammon


We've been waiting.... Might have to wait a few more cycles. Seems manipulated AF


How so?


What was COVID then?


"You MUST vote" is not freedom of choice


You're saying all countries agree & trust each other here....

Might want to have a hard look at that theory my friend


Edward Snowden


Between China & the US?

between Russia & the UK?

Between Turkey & Greece?


Or leave your country


Study is too geeky

I like learn bitcoin or learn about bitcoin


Love how they snuck it in with the new Israel/Palestine focus


I've thought about replacing on of the squares with bitcoin. It doubles 3x then halves every 4th or it goes 10x then halves 3x


On chain almost cheaper at the moment


What an asshole


Eat out from 5 pounds says it all


2014-15 I hear were pretty rough


That's right

Let them come to you when their time is due


Let's see how many of you check nostr regularly

First 10 people to $boost this

I'll add 1k sats

Please add more 🙏 ⚡⚡⚡⚡


I could use another HW


Well..There's probably not many people using L1 either


Yes sir!


Mmm

They really just want 1 sat/vb?


Always have done


Is that real?

Tech meme sounds like a parody


Wow...


More like a 6 months hunger strike


Officially legal?


Go outside


Consolidation, coinjoin, open LN channel season

https://image.nostr.build/896b497323454134f81a1ad75b3befc6e249ad62e84f14774f803801356815cb.jpg


Miners can run a node

Or even 100k of them


Join market liquidity


A large raspberry


*the clearing


A lot can happen in 60 blocks


Separate noKYC with KYC. Select all & send to self

Or use JAM for join market


How do you get #bitcoin?


That better not be your iPhone NVK!


My theory is that the guy who started ordinals is apparently creating a thing called runes to compete with BRC-20 tokens. The degens are waiting for the next "latest thing"


Chad post!


Apparently frogs have no fat

But cooked this way gets some nice fat!


Hope so


Definitely

Sometimes I need to take a breath & tell that to myself. Long time preference is hard


We're early


There are some things in life you cannot prepare for


Until they find out you don't need to buy a whole bitcoin


That's a workout right there.


I want this!


Big I think


394÷705= around half a sat


So half a sat each?


What were the fees on the muun TX?


How's that possible?


Naughty naughty....


Fresh take IMO

Haven't heard too many take this angle


How far is the drive to Russia from Kyrgyzstan?


maybe a mempool.space error?


1 sat is currently insignificant. It's too small.


I'd like to see him get into meditation since its the next progression after mastering "the body"


Amazing!


That's not much at all


They do look good


UK keep kicking home goals


Is he on NOSTR?


French


or sats


No

Sats


No


What's stopping someone spinning up 100k bots spamming everything?


How much storage are you guys using?


People using NOSTR will need to use paid relays if its successful.


Cause Buddha said find out for yourself?


This is confusing


By who?

More info please


Dmix could use liquidity from the join market order book to start with


SN is where its at for longer form writing & discussion


You don't want that

Trust me


Will need to verify that


I'd like to see this integrated with joinmarket


Gonna sharpen my small handwriting skills. Might need to get a sharp pencil for more precision.

Any tips?

https://image.nostr.build/b3c0eeba7d814b3a962ade16e3e267629af03928ccb582baf50c980163d9d00f.jpg


They will probably realize its not you when they try to scam us


This will be amazing for members of a company or family


It will be

Maybe less so over time, but we are a long way from there


Easier said than done


I'll keep an eye out, would be cool to chat!


Yes


You don't want zaps?


The little success I've had orange pilling friends was when it starts from some fundamentals of money.


Why the red?


I'll pop in later, my 2 year old is giving me some trouble


Wrong thread sorry


I'll pop in later

My 2 year old is giving me some trouble


What's a good bitcoin company to invest in?


He mentioned mining, which is why I said that


Its been know for a few days now.


Seen


I'd love to go, but we just had another baby so its not the right time unfortunately. Might have to be later down the track


Who's this?


I think GPU's cannot compete with ASICS.

I have a friend using his GPU with nicehash. Gets a few thousand sats per day, but I think its from mining sh$tcoins then paid out in sats.


Agreed

Don't let them pull you in


How do you say "sauce" in Cantonese?


Where can you buy an S9?

They seem hard to come by these days


satipatthana sutta


True!


Lol


I've seen a lot of different estimates on this.


HODLing still helps bitcoin adoption


Any takers?

Seems like a high price


A lot less!


I just saw the date (march 2023) has passed. Is that a typo?


Lol

This is exactly my breafast everyday!


Tis


I think its bellow the minimum for robosats.

These things take time. Over a long enough timeframe the value of bitcoin sells itself.


Welcome back


Didn't they work together during WW3?


Who's "we"?


I shall zap you

Was that a spend?


How well does it work on a mobile phone browser?


Is that those heaters that mine BTC?


What language is that?


No one has claimed it so far (because I haven't shared).

I'm just asking NOSTR if anyone knows how long it will stay pending like this.

https://image.nostr.build/c2e3e38e9391f438a10af1d222e5070ed4f538d819e7633d3414a7bf8d10e528.jpg


Passing on the #liquidtorch !
Paste a liquid address in the comments to become the next torch bearer 🔥 https://image.nostr.build/37600c94b0746d0264464838b280b5688e7b2543fc08ef59a08add28cecfeda8.jpg


Zap until you get 69420

THEN enjoy


Then why did they call them "credits"?


Thats cause they've been spent


How long does an ecash token stay pending for?

#ecash


I mean 0.0001


I like them!


He has some controversial takes.

NOSTR gets him a pass though


Who got it?

That was fast

Lol!


How about 10k sats?


I still think there's a use case for ecash

Would hold too much value on there though


Gave it to skretcode

Gotta be quick!


I haven't

But I'd say the fees would remain the same.


Funny guy

He can grow poor I guess


Sent to skretcode

#liquidtorch

https://image.nostr.build/a4ec7d02e069e02df81cdf1f09133a848479aea670ae280bef161d162dd0a5cd.jpg


Why is this better than a typical block explorer?


#liquidtorch

Who wants it?

https://image.nostr.build/79c5747596e7c9000e10ee3cc199be7fbf210b0ce0853b447ffae99f77207ee4.jpg


Thank you sir!

Who wants it?

#liquidtorch


Yep

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All the technical stuff I guess


I think you got the genders mixed up


This real?


Does it matter?


Welcome

Sounds like Sam the BTC kid