Galaxy brain: sats to cents


What election rigging? If anything, the electoral system and gerrymandering tend to favor republicans.


You're a hypocrite


When did I glorify it? You are projecting.


I was just illustrating a point. Every action you take is anticipating the future, even if there are big uncertainties involved.


What if a war would kill 100k but would save 1m in the long run? What if it kills 1 innocent for every 10 innocents it saves? I just don't get why you have to simplify something that is notoriously complicated.


*simplify


What if a war would kill 100k but would save 1m in the long run? What if it kills 1 innocent for every 10 innocents it saves? I just don't get why you have to simply something that is notoriously complicated.


So protecting innocent life is not morally justified?


How is an imperative not a justification?


Must people are stupid until they agree with you


You should have posted a picture of a gangraped israeli and write "payed for by Qatar" to be fair, as it happened first


Yes


God, what a nutjob.


Would the world be better without Jews?


Science isn't just posing questions and pointing out seeming coincidences. You are pretending to do science, not actually doing it.

You are doing exactly what I said at the start. Covid having originated from a wet market is boring, and random, and unsatisfying. The cooler narrative is that it was smuggled out of a lab. That makes a good movie.

Look, I'm not rejecting the theory, I'm just dismissing it until there is some concrete evidence, and people who actually spent their life studying this stuff done it convincing.


A lot of conspiracy theories start out as questions like this, without any intention to actually look for evidence, or ever be convinced that whatever outlandish idea presented is wrong. But I realize I was picking on you even though you were probably asking honestly. My immune system overreacting maybe. Still, if you really want an answer you will have to start by actually evaluating the "popular narrative". You can't just say "IMO" because of some intuition you have and be satisfied with that. The narrative is popular for a reason. If it was false you would probably hear at least some reputable voices speaking against it, offering contradictory evidence. I haven't come across any. No one seems to dispute what I said before other than "raising questions", which is the laziest thing in the world.


Does any of those offer eternity with 72 virgins? You see the problem?


There are videos of Oct 7. Don't know how to make it more simple than that.


Israel bribed Hamas covertly. It was too convenient to put off the problem of dealing with those animals. Israel had been paying for that mistake in small doses for years, and on Oct 7 payed big time. At least the lesson was finally learned, it seems.


When the truth is boring, complicated, and disappointed, people look for other narratives. This is a classic example of that. The by-far most likely explanation is a series of small mistakes of the IDF (allowing "civilian" activity on the border, not reinstalling balloon-floating cameras, diverting attention to the West Bank, etc), together with excellent preparation by Hamas (Iranian help, only letting the lower ranks know the plan hours before the attack, etc).

But wouldn't it be so cool if there was this conspiracy that involved hundreds of people being ok with their own people dying, when none of these people ever showed a sign that they think that is morally justified? Let's work real hard to convince ourselves that is what happened, regardless of any evidence that we are too lazy to look into.


Excuse me for doubting the word of a terrorist organization on their unverifiable numbers. Regardless, even if it was 4 children it would be a tragedy. But the alternative of leaving Hamas in power is far worse. The allied forces had to make the same choice against the Nazis. In any case, it's not a numbers game of whose side has more deaths. That's not a moral argument in any way.

We are disagreeing on fact so there may be nothing more to discuss. I believe the evidence that Hamas is using hospitals, mosques, etc to cover their tunnels and to launch rockets from. Do you agree that, IF that were the case, Hamas is to blame?

You're working so hard to defend Hamas, when they couldn't give less of a fuck about you. They want to die in holy glory and meet their 72 virgins in heaven. You say dehumanization is the first step to genocide. But I'm not dehumanizing the people of Gaza, only those for which the above applies, that fill the ranks of Hamas, especially their leadership. They are part of the Muslim fanatic worldwide movement that horrendously misreads the Qur'an.

I don't understand why you think we blame Arabs for the holocaust. I've never heard that argument in my life from anyone. Nazis hated Arabs too. We do blame the Arabs, generally speaking, for attacking us as we declared independence with the agreement of the UN. Then again in 67. Then again in 73.

I'm not saying Israel is blameless, but in this case there is no comparison. Again, if anything, Israel is to blame for not acting more forcefully against Hamas earlier. Both sides could have been much better off.

Hamas literally say that their goal is to vanquish every Jew from Israel, and we have seen that they would be extra happy if the method was to horrifically kill every Jew. On the other hand, Israel had over half a century to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. Do you think Israel couldn't do that if it wanted to? It could do that in a week. Why is it taking so long, then?

If you had a button and reversed everything, Hamas being the occupiers and Israelis the occupied, I assure you that every Jew would be dead by the end of the year. They have claimed that in words and proven it with actions.


You don't think I'm a bad guy but you are fine with burning my children alive as I watch and then beheading me? Cool dude.


I know about the divide and conquer strategy and I find it abhorrent. I am the opposite of a Bibi supporter. But I don't believe the ethnic cleansing narrative as you present it. The UN recognised Israel, but Arabs wouldn't have it and attacked. In victory, Israel conquered territory. The Nakba would not have happened if the Arab nations accepted the Israeli state.

Some settlers in the West Bank would be happy to kick all the Palestinians out, and some of the population supports then, which is awful. But that doesn't justify terrorism, let alone on the other side of the country against children and even other Arabs!


How far back should we go? Did the Palestinians buy their land? The British? The Ottomans? The Byzantines? The Greeks?


Of course it's not complicated to a galaxy brain like yours. Let me bow before you, oh mighty woke worrior king.

And by the way, I also support the Palestinian's right to their own state. But first they've got to be freed from their terrorist regime. How about they elect someone that recognizes Israel's right to exist.

You probably think I'm happy that children in Gaza are dying. Let me reassure you that I am not. It is a horrible cost. I do, however, believe that Hamas is to blame, along with their supporters.


You are restoring to ad hominem.


Are you familiar with the different ancestries of Jews? You are probably focusing on the Ashkenzi, which are not the majority in Israel. The Israeli population is quite diverse.


The Israeli "minister of cultural legacy" who commented about the nuclear strike is a joke, the entire office is a made up sham created to bribe him into the coalition. The only reason he is not fired on the spot is that the prime minister is even more beholden to the extreme sides of his coalition than before after losing a lot of popularity in recent polling.


Wow, "Islamic Audiobooks Central" liked my post. I was talking about Hamas's monstrous Oct 7 attack when I wrote "atrocity", and IDF harming civilians only as collateral. I think they misunderstood.


Of course there is a marketing campaign, there are campaigns on both sides. Not exactly a measure of who's right. But I'm not part of any group or anything, I just tried out nostr and stumbled upon this thread.


Where did you grow up exactly?

How is everything I said false? Be specific, or otherwise you're just throwing claims in the air.


What have I distorted?


You can go into the history, that's important, sure. But regarding current events. Don't make it a numbers game. One side intensionally made innocent people suffer atrociously, while the other, in reaction, is only harming innocents because it has not choice.

Also, there are a lot of "propaganda/fake" claims flying around, but there's nothing easier than calling what you disagree with fake. You have to do your due diligence. You are a serious person and I trust that that is exactly what you will do.


Finally someone here is willing to admit their ignorance. You probably know more than most low-info voters commenting here.


1) Sure, what a trivial claim to make.
2) Israel has not been occupying Gaza since 2005. Guess who they elected: Hamas.
3) Gazans protested "peacefully" last year near the border and the army let them. It seems now that it was cover to prepare for the Oct 7 attack.
4) Israel *provides* energy, because Hamas was too busy with their holy war and couldn't care less how well their people fared! And there were tons of Gazans working in Israel before Oct 7, e.g. in construction. Contrary to whatever propaganda you are being fed, most Israelis do not think that Gazans are inherently evil and deserve their misfortune. But there is no way to attack only Hamas, because they insist on actively putting their population at risk, and put no effort into protecting them. The body count serves their propaganda, convincing useful idiots in western countries.
5) Yes, this is true. You realize that Gaza and the West Bank are different places though, right? As much as settler aggression is awful, it does not satisfy atrocities. Justifying Oct 7 in this way is just crazy. You must really not know, or choose to not believe, what happened that day. There are videos, by the way.
6) Most Israelis are not even of European descent. Most are African/Persian/Yemenite...
7) Israel has been attacked multiple times, and won. The occupation of some of the aggressors was the result. I am for a two-state solution, but I don't pretend that Arabs/Palestinians are not to blame for their situation.
8) Resistance, as in rape, beheading, painfully killing on purpose, including children? Many of the people that were gruesomely attacked that day are pro-peace, who had friends in Gaza. What an awful irony. Only monsters like Hamas are capable of this. Again, their actions were so horrific that I understand why it's difficult to believe they actually did this. But there is *tons* of evidence. I also personally know someone who was there, but you probably wouldn't take the word of some anon.

You deny that Hamas are using hospitals as humanitarian shields. Will any amount of evidence convince you that you are wrong?

Anti-semitism is a concept, you are not supposed to take its etymology as its meaning. That would be like objecting to the word "fingernail" because it is not made of metal.

The fact that you are bringing Covid into this is telling. Classic virtue signalling.


If you think "it's pretty straightforward" then you don't really understand what is going on there. For one, Gaza hasn't been occupied for almost two decades.

Does "standing up for themselves" include torturing and raping civilians? Burning children? You can say about anything that it is "propaganda" and just believe whatever makes you sleep well at night. That's cheap. I hope you don't look up the videos from Oct 7 for your own sanity.

Hamas is not a resistance group. They are terrorists. Hamas doesn't care about the people of Gaza, or any people, it only cares about its holy war and the afterlife. They don't even hide it. Over the years, Hamas, as the elected government in Gaza, used its aid money to build tunnels and arm their hospitals and mosques, instead of caring for its people.

Israel can trivially kill over a million people in Gaza if it wanted to. There are people in Israel who would be happy to see people in Gaza die, but they are a minority, and not part of the army's higher ranks or pilots. Instead, the IDF let the civilians evacuate, at the risk of terrorists evacuating too. Of course there will be a lot of casualties if you are determined to destroy a group that uses a populous as its shield. Welcome to war, there is a reason why everybody hates it.

Israel is not free of blame. If anything, it should have been more heavy-handed with Hamas. It should also cooperative more with the leadership in the West Bank, and not enable settler aggressions. But there are no settlers in Gaza! Did you even know that Gaza and the West Bank are two separate places that do not even share a border, or leadership? I bet this is news to you.