@10Luno@Aspartame
Amen. I'm struggling with a rejection myself, but these are comforting thoughts.
1 Chronicles 29:11 Thine, O LORD, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.
Psalms 84:11 For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly
@catholichodler@pipe@Aspartame@James Lewis@Fabiano
The apostles were able to teach their doctrine out of the Old Testament, therefore it goes as follows
Old Testament -> church -> New Testament
As opposed to:
church -> Old and New Testament
You need to presuppose sacramentalism, there's nothing to imply they taught anything beyond OT doctrines with the clarification that Jesus is the Christ (Messiah) and that forgiveness is only found in Him, with baptism replacing circumcision, and the Lord's Supper replacing Passover.
At the council at Jerusalem, when debating over the necessity of circumcision and the law of Moses, they concluded that apart from abstaining from fornication, from meat offered to idols and from blood, there is no necessary burden to the Gentiles. If you needed the sacraments to be saved this'd be the time to ratify them.
@catholichodler@pipe@Aspartame@James Lewis@Fabiano
Acts 17:10-11 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
The scriptures predated Paul's preaching in Berea
@James Lewis@Aspartame
As concerning who the Israelites tempted in the wilderness, 1 Corinthians 10:9 identifies Christ, Hebrews 3:7-9 identifies the Holy Ghost, Psalm 95 identifies Jehovah.
Christ prays to the Father, while also saying He is one with the Father.
Whichever way you harmonise these facts will lead you to upholding the Godhead.
@Aspartame@James Lewis
As concerning Sola Scriptura some also make it legalism so that things like drinking strong drink (undiluted alcohol), abortion, tattoos and playing rock music in church are permissible because despite violating Biblical principles throughout Scripture, they aren't specifically condemned in any New Testament verse (and this practising OT-NT distinction I don't buy into either aside from things specifically identified as prophetic pictures of a more glorious Body).
Misunderstood it also makes KJVonly circular, because you have to go into the historical record rather than letters of Scripture to defend the belief.
@Aspartame@Caek Islove 🍰 💖 @Moved@Quentel
It's about future events, because "in that day" sounds like the day of the LORD, and the proceeding verse (10) matches Revelation 1:7.
Isaiah 13 likewise links the destruction of the armies of the nations to Christ's return (celestial blackout in verse 10)
@Moved@Caek Islove 🍰 💖 @Quentel
Not feasible
Zechariah 12:9 "And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem."
Context puts this as right before the second coming of Christ, so for this prophesy to be fulfilled would require an attempt by the nations to siege Jerusalem to be stopped by God.
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