> It follows that there are absolutely compromised and paid bad actors who larp as sanctimonious toxic maxis with this overarching aim, at all levels of the community and dev hierarchy. They have taken advantage of the leadership vaccume  you described to destroy meaningful progress through basic social engineering.
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damn

thats the shit right there.


so irritated i noted twice 🤣


its just more of nostr:npub1az9xj85cmxv8e9j9y80lvqp97crsqdu2fpu3srwthd99qfu9qsgstam8y8 and coinkite being statist asshats

and the community giving them a pass because nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx and the influencoors continue to endorse them


You can just use a pixel with graphene OS installed
Maybe a seed signer In a multi-sig combination

Secure
and it doesn't scream "I'm securing private keys"


counterpoint
NVK has been consistently an asshole
and coinkites products are overhyped bullshit


for real
fuck that guy


You probably dont need a hardware wallet.
a Pixel6 with Graphene on it is an easier setup you're less apt to fuck up.
its also not recognizable as a signing device,
which is a big bonus.

and you *certainly* dont need HWW from litigatious assholes who arent even open source.


GM

kyc IS the illicit activity


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now that Mysu has an uncertain future


not Stack duo??


Frankly I'd prefer him as President but here we are...


the main difference is that a VPN is a trusted 3rd party
TOR Isnt (mostly)

so if you have reason to doubt your VPN
or are doing high risk activity,
definitely use tor.

but many people are betting that the mullvads and ivpns etc are secure.

not sure what you mean about configuration problems.


but it does tho.

and also thats really weird inaccurate simile.


If the point is to hide your IP from relays
then running your client through a VPN
and then through tor
(or vice versa)
is redundant and unnecessary.

maybe there are other reasons to do so
but thats the usual idea.


A New American Monetary System: Coming Soon.

Monero's value is not measured in dollars but in its usability.

Read my analysis...

Donald Trump promised that the US will become the crypto capital of the world.
He promised to have reserves in #BTC and pay off debt with “crypto checks”.

What does all this mean?
He said that he would take control of part of the crypto space and convert the dollar monetary system to a new one.

He also said he won't allow #CBDCs, but that doesn't mean he can't back the current dollar with BTC and then issue Bitcoin-backed digital dollars. He will say this is not CBDC, it is commodity-backed money as it was before 1970, and it is hard money.

This new dollar makes sense if it is worth more than the current dollar, e.g. 1 edollar = 10,000 USD, and this means liquefying U S. debts and screwing the T-bond creditors.

Now, many are excited about the BTC price explosion (measured in fiat, of course). They are thinking of fiat investments rather than a sovereign payment system.

When the biggest BTC hash rate is in the U.S., the government will impose on-chain KYC on the country's miners (the government will want control, as always), and then higher taxes and more oversight on transactions.

That's when the real value of #Monero will be seen.


yup yup
it was always going to go this way

DJT is just the guy to get it rolling


really hoping my 2000-era truck holds out for another 10 years 😬


Which is great and all
but how do you establish prices?


This is your bull market reminder
that you are *NOT* living on a Bitcoin Standard.

As long as prices are denominated in US dollars
the USD is your unit of account.

you can break your brain dividing the price of a everything by 89k to find sat equivalent price
and the USD is STILL your uoa.
its a good thing to. kinda cute and a step in the right direction.
but its got fuck all to do with changing the Unit of Account.

i can sell weed for propane
and not touch USD at all,
but as long as the quantity of weed
exchanged for the quantity of propane
is decided by the relative USD value of those things,
the USD is the Unit of Account.

That doesnt change until communities start pricing goods and services *directly* in their preferred currency.
ie without regard for the supposed fiat "value"

UoA definitely does NOT change because you do division.

It should be self evident and obvious to every Bitcoiner,
that dividing the fiat price of goods or services
by the fiat price of Bitcoin,
is a *fiat measurement*.


And some otherwise intelligent people fail to understand unit of account
get pissed off and defensive when you tell them that they can't just do division and change it

looking at you
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It's a start


Signal is one of the most looked-at open source projects there is.
There's not a fucking back door.

They do see who you are talking to and when.
So keep that in mind.

but its great for avoiding dragnet surveillance and getting normies off of plaintext texting.


or not
and thats ok too.

stand on your own feet.


reject the black pill

any little thing you do makes dragnet surveillance harder


Signal has a great user experience and strong default privacy guarantees

but you're only messaging with other people on Signal


GM


because need moar fiat


So...
if thats still fiat
how exactly are you valuing your time and efforts in hard money?

I'm not understanding something...


If you're delivering,
quite a lot in this market 🤣


under a US dollar UoA
what does "valuing in sats" look like?


def keep stacking.
there's a lot of confusion about what UoA actually is and isn't.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with bitcoin (not here anyway ;)

Just that there's something wrong with Bitcoiners 🤣


#facts

maybe 20yrs?

...maybe?


killing it bro


pretty sure I agree with this note

but it was too long and I didnt read it.


for sure yo

Normalize the OnionNet!


Let the regulatory capture begin!
We're all going to be be filthy rich!


UoA IS NOT the medium of exchange between two parties.

UoA IS the base currency prices are denominated in.

people are consistently confusing those two things
and the difference matters.

It's a step in the right direction for people to use a different Medium of Exchange,
but it does not effect the underlying unit of account.

People can transact in bales of cotton or barrels of oil
But as long as the *amount of cotton or the *amount of oil is decided by the USD equivalent value of those things,
then the unit of account is still USD.


I totally agree

just saying that
until then
its not changing the UoA


yeah i get it
and those prices are denominated in USD

which is why usd is STILL the UoA

that doesnt stop until we have circular economies that don't touch fiat


sigh

it isnt XMR denominated when you take the USD value and divide by the USD price of Monero.

Thats still a USD UoA.

Thats the whole point of what Im saying.


"how much things should cost"
is still a USD measurement though isn't it?

because people aren't denominating prices in XMR


"opportunity cost"
is just a way of expressing the simple fact that
all decisions are also sacrifices.


Owning or doing anything incurs opportunity cost

There is no other human activity or asset where we call simply owning  and doing nothing with it "Using"

Owning a stock or a commodity or a piece of land somewhere
and doing nothing with it is a speculative investment (ie it restricts the supply!)
its not a use of the thing.

*Particularly* since Bitcoin has security needs
( Which is the only reason it's valuable anyway )
but the holder doesn't contribute to those.

Nowhere else would we refer to this as "use"


lead regulatory cuck?


Tell me how to quantify the privacy of a LN tx.


And I'm sure it could never happen that groups of people would get together
and use available financial information to
establish dossiers on other people,
and then use force to leverage that information to their advantage

that certainly never has happened in history before
what could possibly go wrong?


since hodlers do not pay for securing the network
hodling is not "using Bitcoin."
Users pay tx fees and contribute to network security.

i fight for the users.

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>> everyone tries to become one of the people that doesn't pay and then eventually there's not enough people paying for the thing to keep existing to benefit people

*Everyone* tries to avoid spending.
On a capped network everyone will ALWAYS try to avoid spending and hodl for as long as possible.
There is no incentive to spend because everyone assumes that their buying power will increase as time goes on

you Maxis are talking about it all day long.

The only thing pushing up transaction fees for the last two years have been people shitcoining on the network

In the absence of a block reward
only people who use sats for goods and services provide security for the network.
hodlers ride for free.

Since there will be no new supply,
everybody wants to hodl.
nobody wants to exchange for goods and services.

But since it's transactions that provide security,
On a long enough timeline
security goes to zero.


its that incentive for capture increases in proportion to institutional adoption

the bankers and the rent seekers arent going to go peacefully
and they have leverage over what the legislation is and how its implemented


nah

I think the chances of regulatory capture increase with the government acquiring a strategic reserve and supposed "pro Bitcoin" legislation.

where we are going
laws arent going to help


and all houses should be made of transparent material
to prevent people from doing anything "wrong"

because privacy only encourages "bad" behavior


bitcoin maxis : fiat is fake money that enslaves mankind

also bitcoin maxis : OMG LOOK HOW VALUABLE MY BITCOIN IS TODAY!!


I'm guilt of the drifting attention too for sure...

certainly aware of the free rider problem,
but everyone is always talking about mining incentives and the window shifts to what the dominant narrative is 😕

its a great explanation, thanks.


To me it means
I hodl a small amount of a finite asset and outsource the security of the network to those who are so poor they have to spend.


You are very nice person to type all of that out 🙏


Well
the first thing is that my USD transactions arent visible to anyone with a block explorer

but sure
if central banks just give up running the world and go away peacefully (lol) the world would be better on a bitcoin standard.

in actual fact however,
self-custody would be criminalized and we would be using paper bitcoin. only the elites would actually touch the chain and nothing would be very different.
except everyone could easily see if you moved a UTXO of course.


I'm not gonna say this guys takes are ALL bad
but its pretty close to 50/50 😒
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explain how you know this please.

in fact
please explain how ANY end user can evaluate the privacy guarantees they achieve in a specific LN txs

I'll wait.

because you cant and your statement isnt based on anything but a theoretical
"an L2 could *maybe* be more private because of no on-chain footprint"


that is assuming a lot

considering we're in the middle of a pump driven by absolutely nothing but Cantillionaire speculation


blockstreams sidechain with 1m blocks and Confidential Txs.

looks like there was 3 whole txs in the last block!
https://liquid.network/


pretty stupid apparently... 🙄


nah bro

that just becomes "all viewpoints are equally valid"
and our brains leak out our ears and we never actually take a stand anywhere


we can at least try for intellectual consistency

"i like Bitcoin but not censorship resistance" is an untenable position.


"we shouldn't have privacy because people will do bad things"
isnt that the position of the WEF? 🤔


I mean
i think it should seems like an obviously stupid position to anyone seeking a censorship resistant value transfer system

but bro isnt playing with a full desk


because one of the tenets of Anarcho-capitalism is that people should use a transparent money system to prevent them from doing "shameful" things

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this.

the only property you can be said to really own,
is the one nobody knows about.


as another old guy
gotta say

obsessing over the USD denominated "buying power"
is bullshit fiat thinking

but some people would rather be rich than free i guess.


I want to see bitcoiners and moneristas stop measuring value in US dollars.

"Bitcoin was created for fiat NGU"
is fiat thinking


you dont know what Keynesian economics is
admit it


lol
that isnt what you said

which of us is being semantic?

also lol
"BUt aSteRoId mIniNG"


lol that's hilarious

They could just say "fuck you"
but I guess that doesn't dress it up in intellectualism


"everybody who disagrees with is a Keynesian"
because reasons
🤡

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hey
it wasnt me who said gold was a stable store of value for thousands of years.
that was you bro


If you're 30yrs old and dont have a regular meditation practice
you're behind the curve


like gold became worthless and was never adopted as money because of supply inflation ?

oh wait


this is a nice story.

its a fiat story
but its nice that nice people can live well.


I don't know bro
considering how easy it was to take you to school here
I'd work overtime


Sharath Jois died of a heart attack yesterday if there any other Ashtangis on nostr.

#Ashtanga
#yogastr


"I'm concerned that pursuing NGU at the expense of privacy and censorship resistance will result in the regulatory capture of the network"

"hfsp shitcoiner"

maxi mentality 🙄
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again
i suggest intellectual honesty over pedantic puritanical zealotry.
thats how bitcoin got this far

not by your stupid maxi bullshit.


sorry not RingCT
just Confidential Transactions

Liquid has them implementated (as does Monero) so theyre a good source

https://blog.liquid.net/guide-to-confidential-transactions/


thats a nice belief
and i hope it is correct.

I am concerned that a transparent chain which courts institutional investors is begging for regulatory capture and will fail as a result.

beliefs aren't facts and nothing is inevitable.


RingCT to at least hide amounts?

its seriously battle tested and weird that any bitcoiner would consider it too radical.
everyone is already trusting cryptographic primitives more edgy anyway...


super smart dude


"and banks just shrug their shoulders and dwindle into insignificance"

as if the people who run the world are just going to go away peacefully 🙄

you didn't answer my question in the slightest.


something something trojan horse


intellectual honestly is fun man

i recommend it


it is truly insidious.
they honestly can simultaneously believe fiat is worthless
and that fiat denominated prices are good signal

when it suits their narrative anyway.

my belief is that its half greed
and half validation of their worldview.


oh look
he did the thing

another confused fiat maxi who thinks they're a bitcoiner

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totally obsessed with fiat equiv value ain't ya 🤣
its a sad state of affairs in bitcoin these days.

chatter on all day about how worthless fiat is,
then whip out fiat charts...

and Satoshi wept 😬


you know

when you're not a maxi zealot retard
you can acknowledge the tradeoffs other chains make

and make intelligent decisions.

you have to give up being a self righteous asshole though,
i suggest you try it.


its a funny thing that when you take maxis to school,
for some reason
they assume you dont own any bitcoin...

like bro
your obsession with fiat is telling on you

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sorry bro
i know the truth hurts

"i dont actually care about privacy, i just want fiat gainz"
another "bitcoiner"


Andreas was talking about this sort of thing years ago
it seems unlikely to be valuable to create a walled garden within the network

but regulatory capture is a real thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSv0J4bfBCc


the fact that monero has like 10000x the usage aside,

liquid hides tx amounts

monero hides tx amount
and senders inputs
and destination address

so yeah
you would think monero is much better vis a vis privacy


monero has privacy ✅
and decentralization ✅
and a modicum of scalability ✅

🤨


lol
are you serious bro?!

liquid is a fucking ghost town


 ELI5 how incentivizing institutional adoption results in "infecting the system and making it eat itself from the inside out"
(whatever that means)

and NOT regulatory capture of the network and de facto criminalization of sovereign usage.


go back to your echo chamber

you're too fragile for the real world


theyre gonna get that bullshit where the car bitches at you if you're speeding too


As usual
10/10 no notes 🔥🔥🔥
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"the value of gold is constant"

- some dude without any intellectual consistency

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tbh I kinda loathe bull markets


just logged into nostr and damn

NGU is a helluva drug


and privacy preserving!


Homeboy likes to argue that gold is a good stable store of value
but Monero is bad and inflationary

its a religious argument
not a rational one.


Yes totally
I think that's how it happens
once small communities become more self-reliant and they don't have to interface with the Fiat world


which is why say that USD is the unit of account

we can personally convert it to whatever if we want
it just doesn't change the UoA


that isn't what unit of account means.

changing a fiat price into Monero isnt changing that.
UoA is *what prices are denominated in*

that doesnt change until people are pricing things in Monero
without regard for equiv USD ”value"


Absolutely

I'm interested in all kinds of spores.
Had a hood setup in my spare room for a while and was doing potato agar cultures.
But got busy and put it all in storage.

Love working with mycelium though... ♥


Yeah I;m sure lots of Bitcoiners do this.

But my point is that,
if you divide a fiat price
by the fiat price of bitcoin (or monero)
you DONT arrive at hard money
or a different UoA

you're just comparing the fiat prices of two different things.


arguably one of the worst movies ever made

but maybe fun for that reason


If you have a VPN why do you use tor with Amethyst?


for the love of God why?


PF tek ftw

do you mail spore syringes?


bro I don't even know what my follower count is


I think the point of the OP is just that they are promising liberatarian solutions but will end up being as bad or worse than the current statists.

They're not going to "end the fed" Period.
Pretty sure its not even been mentioned...?

But the vibe is that there's a new band of thugs who are jockeying for position to replace the current group of grifters.
They're going to come up with their own method and pretexts for exerting their control.
I don't think there needs to be any current connection to Trumps talking points.
Or any actual connection to reality at all.


Goddamn it

I'm a dirty hypocrite and I apologize 🤣


goddamn it!

I'm a lying hypocrite and I apologize 😂


Show me where I said Bitcoin is worse than Monero

ill wait.


Nothing I'm saying is complicated or controversial

You just don't want to hear it


Just go back to muting me dude .

you can't hang.


You are understandably anxious to be done with this conversation 👋


And the mental aerobics begin!

Fun fact
*Everything* that doesn't attract cantillionaire speculation faster than inflation is losing USD denominated value because of a rigged unit of account
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Another Fiat chart
how surprising 🙄

So more US dollars are chasing bitcoin faster than are chasing houses

I'm sure you're very happy that cantillionaires have decided that Bitcoin is more valuable than a house
more fiat for you!

wow
big deal /s


really weird how you go on and on about inflation and arbitrary money printing

but then act as if USD prices are actually a measurement of value

and the price of exactly nothing is denominated in gold
so you have no idea if the value of gold is constant or not
thats a statement of faith, not fact.

all prices are denominated in USD these days
The prices of commodities are indicators of how many dollars are chasing those commodities
iow speculative interest


hopium.

Bitcoin is gaining buying power because fiat cantillionaires are speculating on it

You don't understand that the underlying unit of account is completely fucked and that accurate pricing is impossible in that scenario That's why housing bubble
That's why Bitcoin is bubbling

Only a moron would confuse that with actual accrual of value

Monero doesn't attract the same fiat speculation.
Which isn't a problem if you're interested in actual censorship resistant transactions and not Fiat denominated "wealth"


All of that is only true when prices are denominated in U.S dollars.

Under a Fiat UOA, prices are not Equal to "value" Because the underlying measurement unit is garbage

All you're really saying is that the money that's being printed is flowing into Bitcoin At a higher proportion than it's flowing into Monero

 Why should I give a fuck about a rigged unit of account system?

The retarded thing is to play their game as if it matters
And that's you bro


Imagine believing that an arbitrary fiat currency minted by a single central bank defines "value"

Either this person has lost the plot or they never knew it.

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imagine believing that fiat USD denomination is "value"

that's what makes you a fiat maxi, although you don't even know you are.


"I'm not obsessed with fiat"

the entire post is about fiat inflation and how Bitcoin does relative to fiat 🙄


its only possible to try and steal your channel counterparty's sats.
and you're penalized if you try and they prove you are trying to cheat.

it's not something we hear a lot about... so I'm feeling like it's not a big problem?


Realizing that I screwed up this explanation

The Eve-> Alice -> Eve attack I describe is always possible and has nothing to do with a malicious node>
That is to say
if the person you receive the Monero from and the person you send it to are colluding
they can eliminate the decoys in the ring signatures and see the true outputs

The danger with a malicious node is just that if you connect to broadcast a tx without hiding your IP somehow they can see that IP sent that transaction.
Which is usually true with other chains anyway
but Monero uses dandelion which prevents knowing what node broadcasted what transaction in most cases

🙇


It's not accurate to think of Ln as a separate token moving on top of BTC
 It's better to think of it as a network that claims ownership of sats inside BTC multi-sig contracts
 There's no way to claim ownership of a sat that doesn't exist.
ie you cant create supply from nothing

The best anyone can do claim the sats in the channel (multisig contract) from their counterparty and hope they can get away with it.


if you think anyone who is a danger to the system gets elected president
you're the delusional one


for the duration of our lives Bitcoin will have supply inflation
cope.

also your preoccupation with fiat price outs you as a fiat maxi.
"Cantillionaires like my coin better" isnt the mic drop you think it is.


whats this now?

why do individual mints split up the anonset internally?

i think i saw Calle messing around with multimint payments...
extremely alpha implementation of course.


This is a particularly damaging kind of cope.
dont fool yourself,
 Ngu is primarily driven by cantillionaires aping in for fiat gainz.
its not indicating a "bigger Bitcoin economy"

its indicating incentive for regulatory capture.


but yeah
Amber is necessary


ive been doing that a lot recently too lol

is it a web client?


Which client?


Obviously buying kyc from an exchange exposes you to the exchange.
However unlike Bitcoin they have no idea where you send the XMR afterwards.

Connecting to 3rd party node does NOT expose your transaction history or anything about your wallet.
Your wallet *will tell the node the last time it synced, ie from what block it wants information. not really a big deal.

The biggest issue can be that if you broadcast a tx to a malicious (customized for chain surveillance) node it can know the true input(s) to that tx.
Which could be a problem if you *did buy KYC from a CEX and turned right around and spent using that malicious node and the node runners were coordinating with that CEX.
They wouldn't know where the transaction went, but they would be able to see that it was you that sent it.
If that makes sense
And it wouldn't work if you had moved the coins between the CeX and spending them with the adversary's node.

So yeah there are edge cases where its possible to screw up your privacy if do very specific things and happen to be unlucky

nothing is completely drool-proof


I will bet considerable money that the FBI etc have no better tools for tracing Monero txs than the Chainanal ones we already know about.

In short, Monero privacy is solid.
It protects sender, receiver and amount by default and you have to work pretty hard to fuck it up.

in contrast, LN is untested and its privacy guarantees are unknown to end users. Perhaps unknowable.
Can it theoretically be good? Sure.
Is it? Nobody really knows and with the "hub and spoke" geography of LN it's extremely unlikely.

So I wish people would quit pushing it as a reasonable alternative to an actual battle-tested and easy to use private transaction method.

Just use Monero ffs.
or don't,
if you know what you're doing and you want fuck around with LN stuff, fine.

but anyway, know the tradeoffs.

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This all started because you were saying that there's no reason anyone should want to jump from LN to XMR

I think we've thoroughly answered that question at this point

Monero provides good privacy guarantees for anyone right out of the box with good ux. Noobs included.

As opposed to the Rube Goldberg machines you're proposing and the Coming Soon™ privacy features I've been hearing about since I came into Bitcoin like 8 years ago

So yeah there's plenty of good reasons somebody might want use XMR. It's good money that protects users. I suggest you accept that fact.


Probably not in my mentions you're not Lol

I lived through the first crypto wars and it's pretty clear that Bitcoin is well on its way to regulatory capture


Absolutely!

DJT has said he's anti-cbdc
However I'm sure he can be convinced


More retarded hopium from this guy

Bitcoin is NOT doing everything Monero can do
Bitcoin IS inflating faster than Monero is right now

"But but someday we'll fix all this on Lx"

cope harder


I'm the party pooper

Fiat price is primarily an indication of speculative investment by Cantillionaires

It has very little to do with actual value.
ie adoption by people who actually need censorship resistance.


Donkey Kong isn't even a donkey how do we keep letting Nintendo get away with this.


I probably shouldn't be so mean
Homeboy is still figuring things out and there are so many more of us than there are of them

https://i.nostr.build/rEsd0E1bk2kPTt1w.gif


hes right.
saying LN is not BTC is saying "multisig is not BTC"

its not a separate token, just time locked multisig.


if its not Bitcoin based then you are literally Hitler

- Bitcoin Maxis


For the record
I am not a "maxi" for anything.
I will use whatever works to improve freedom and privacy in the face of the encroachment that I see in the world today

I don't care if it's Bitcoin
or Monero
I will use whatever Is censorship and surveillance resistant.

And I'll tell you another thing
the reason why I argue with people like this
is because
instead of advocating for Freedom
they're trying to push insecure solutions on people out of religious zealotry.

In other words contributing to the problem instead of helping to solve it.

Use the fucking tools.

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I know it's crazy but If you're not a religious bigot about things you can actually experiment with different technologies

Unfortunately you have to stop being self-righteous all the time

Maybe try it and see?


This was supposed to be a reply


You're doing a pretty shitty job of showing any other alternatives

I never said I hate lightning. LN is cool, I'm just realistic about the lack of privacy guarantees

As opposed to you Maxis who are trying to sell it as a completed privacy solution.
When it ain't.


You're doing a pretty shitty job of showing any other alternatives

I never said I hate lightning. LN is cool, I'm just realistic about the lack of privacy guarantees

As opposed to you Maxis who are trying to sell it as a completed privacy solution.
When it ain't.

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All my utxos have whirlpool history bro
so why would I need LN?

and frankly
thats a cop out


iow
you're not even doing this


and maybe theres been 4 years for entrenched institutional powers to make inroads with the people close to him


Obviously it makes a difference if you're interfacing through a kyced account or something

I tried it through ppq.ai
which is just a web front end that takes sats and Monero for payment
it gave me "Sorry as a large language model I have no knowledge of the details of your personal life"

Although I think you're right to be cautious
And things are going to get bad
It's not magic


youre just butthurt you dont actually understand what UoA is ❤


this completely depends on how you are accessing the LLM doesn't it


Tariffs are a retarded economic strategy and we're all in big trouble if DJT actually implements them.


this is much more exciting for me than anything DJT says


lol
well its a good thing we dont have to worry too much about your definition


what?
how does one define "taint"?

the whole point is that taint is an arbitrary Chainanal and CEX definition we have no control over.
its a byproduct of a transparent ledger.

therefore two UTXOS with different histories are nonfungible by definition.

1 btc != 1 btc


which services are those?
that cost $9/mo/user?


maxis always transition from "You don't need Monero, just use LN"
to
"actually LN might not be good enough, so make sure you buy noKYC and coinjoin the UTXO you use to open the channel"
ignoring that there aren't good CJ guarantees with Samourai offline
and even still,
theres no way to show exactly WHAT anonset you are getting with this Rube Goldberg setup.

True it's probably "good enough" to avoid dragnet surveillance
but its NOT an easy setup,
impossible for normies
and there are no good guarantees anyway.

So congrats,
you did the meme

https://i.nostr.build/nsxZV9tnw5NnfNoi.jpg
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> a noKYC'd UTXO that does a few coin join rounds and then opens an unannounced LN channel

are you saying thats how you are doing anonymous LN txs?


tbf
these are just nostr events I believe lol

so not necessarily a definitive list


well then wtf...?

thanks


its true.
but i think thats more money management
for example , I have never touched my cold storage...
its a one way street.

but it does mean that i probably keep more hot than is comfortable for most.
well, warm. I have three tiers.
hot i can spend whenever,
warm I can easily access,
and cold i have to dig up.


looks like youtube blocked all the scrapers again


looks like youtube blocked everybody again


cheers bro. I'll look into that.

I think theyve lost my business from going the conbase route though...


Those are just the stamps.
You get some washers and a jig and use them to stamp your seed phrase on the washers, one word per washer.
Then thread them on a bolt and put a nut on to hold it all together.

repeat as many times as you like.
steel storage for a few dollars.

I saw you got the Capsule. Thats a more elegant solution lol


also, aren't you using custodial LN??

So you don't have any privacy anyway. Or the same privacy as you have with a bank, which is the same thing as zero.
and obviously don't feel like you need strong privacy or censorship resistance anyway.
and you're saying nobody actually needs an decentralized private tx network??

some of us not only want to opt out of dragnet surveillance (which you aren't)
but we also want strong guarantees against *targeted* surveillance (which LN arguably doesn't provide even if you run your own infra).


how about you tell me
as an end user,
how do I establish what my anonset is when making a LN tx?

I'll wait.
(cause you can't)

(but end users CAN easily know their privacy guarantees on Monero)


99% of yall need this
and not some fucking HWW
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pro tip
even if some rando on the Internet cant track your txs,
it doesn't prove they're private.

in fact
its a pretty dumb argument
👍


do you know
will they manage your email for a domain?


hey look
he said the thing 🙄

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seeing a lot of questions about how this works
and no answers

assuming this a custodial, centralized swap
correct?


LN privacy is uncertain at best


yeah it made me nervous when they acquired it
but then they didn't seem to touch it at all.
and I use Proton for my business anyway so I thought "oh well"

but now I think I'll switch too
thanks for the tip


ok so my Simplelogin subscription needs to be renewed
in the last 2 years they've decided to only accept Coinbase?!
so NOT self custody Bitcoin and certainly not Monero.

contacting support just resulted in a generic "you can pay with crypto on CB" email.

is there a better alternative that actually accepts real money? or am I stuck paying SL with a gift card or something?


well I did end up shutting down my Nextcloud VPS after all

so I don't have to worry about that shit.


its not coming back

all the people who really care are in Monero now.


This is how separating money from the state looks like:

Monero Delistings
👇🏻
2024 Oct - Bit2Me (global)
2024 Oct - Kraken (EU)
2024 Jul - Kraken (Germany)
2024 Jun - Kraken (Ireland, Belgium)
2024 May - LocalMonero shut down
2024 Feb - Binance (global)
2024 Jan - OKX (global)
2022 Sep - Huobi (global)
2021 Nov - Kraken (UK)
2021 Jan - Bittrex (global)
2020 Nov - ShapeShift (global)
2020 Aug - Coinspot [AU]


Fair enough, I totally agree with that.

of course, Cantillionaire degens aping into your favorite commodity Isn't an actual indicator of value.

I suppose theres a sweet spot where organic adoption happens.
but I'm not convinced that has to outpace USD inflation.
and certainly not BTC speculation.


things are shitcoins for actual reasons

there's no particular characteristic of monero that makes it shitty

ie
you're already trusting cryptographic primitives on bitcoin more complicated than the range proofs that guarantee moneros supply.
so from a technical standpoint its kinda weird for bitcoiners to bitch and moan about moneros supply auditability


bro
its you being defensive

"not *all* bitcoiners reeee"


wow
Simping for Senators and state confiscation on nostr

yall are fucking gay


wut?

quite a word salad to say "i think you will be able to privately use bitcoin"


really easy to use interface to multiple LLM models

use without an account, just send XMR or LN sats and start making queries.

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as if bragging about fiat gainz was a mic drop 😬
get your priorities straight, thats straight shitcoiner thinking


if thats the case, theres going to be a premium on Monero homie


Former presidential advisor Pippa Malmgren on the legalization of Bitcoin:

"If you make crypto and Bitcoin legal [...] you can't hold them anonymously, you have to declare them."

"You're not going to be able to escape the reach of the US Government. [...] And because we're in the data age, you can't have Bitcoin accounts that nobody knows about."

"It's on your phone, its detectable, and again, we've got a government now full of tech bros that know how to read your digital twin incredibly easily."

Legalization always has been a Trojan Horse for censorship.

https://m.primal.net/Lwlz.mov


Unfortunately feeling like these are the three rationalizing regulatory capture these days


Monero users think that Value lies in the utility.

Bitcoiners think that network security is free and they can just sit on their bags and make "money" (fiat)

So the evidence shows that the opposite is true


" VC money and Fiat degens pump my bags more than yours. everybody point and laugh"

feature
not a bug homie


hoarders don't pay for network security

therefore not "using"


I know what you mean 👍
Theyre all really fascinating


nice ones! 👀👀👀


Where I am it's seasonal also
Sometimes you can get them in the middle of the summer for cheap


Will not stand by and let LSD be slandered so 😤


如實知自心

Actually know your own mind.


sure you bet

add those different grits in sequence and leave it running in the garage for a couple days

then put them in the fish tank lol


hopefully you'll learn to own it someday.

otherwise you'll never be an adult.


yeah
youre really good at rationalizing your nasty judgements with sugary words.

"theyre ignorant racist wife beaters but I really *love* them"

enlightened people dont need to make such unnecessary distinctions.


"when I call places 'shitholes'
i am very correct and intelligent"

"when conservatives call places 'shitholes'
they are racist and evil"

you rn:
https://i.nostr.build/bycR6qQX4cunfxpJ.jpg


Theres literally nothing there.
except a mothers hope that Trump will follow through.


usenet?

oh
and Dread.


nice.
i forget, why did you block me again?


"the people in all those shithole states are the problem"

the irony is amazing
and completely lost on him
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Im not
and its not "fact"
its unsupported nasty opinions

rationalized by claiming "it just facts"

iow, basic projection.


> and proceed to watch nation state adoption, investment firm adoption, and the leader of the free goddamned world courting you as a voting bloc.

none of these things are positive indicators tho


Well in the short term anyway,
Bitcoin number go up.

but its well on its way to being a regulatory captured part of the investment landscape.

on a longer timeline monero is where people should be IMO


If adoption is the most important metric then stick with USD. Monero is essentially where Bitcoin was 7-8 years ago.

There wont be any sort of mass adoption of monero until theres a crisis. Runaway inflation or a 6102 type event.

Which is why people dont think they need monero until they do.


Everything is tradeoffs.

The main downside of Monero is
the hash rate is low enough and mining hardware is available enough
that a dedicated adversary could mine empty blocks for considerable time

but otherwise yes
monero is superior as a monetary instrument.


if your into fiat denominated investments, sure.
but fiat is arbitrary and capricious "wealth"


In that video recently Amir says he tells people
"you dont think you need monero, until you do"

💯


Theres always hope ❤

pretty sure DJT doesnt give a rats ass about hope however


I see you bro 👍

its really win-win
and if I get the money i wanna donate it to Lyn

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nm

maybe just that I dont have Twitter anymore so not getting the latest feed

followed a different link and seems to be a legit tweet.

here's hoping 🤞


yeah but then went as far as to Photoshop a tweet from his mom...
fuckers.

smh


dunno what kind of asshole does this shit
but afaict that account hasnt tweeted in over a year
https://i.nostr.build/nmBkxjbQh47S9BMI.png


cc nostr:npub1m5s9w4t03znyetxswhgq0ud7fq8ef8y3l4kscn2e8wkvmv42hh3qujgjl3


woah
holy shit!


Trump is also ugly.
But all these things all these things that you're seeing
and all these judgments that you're making

 that is YOUR mind
 it is not some objective reality that you are privy to.

Ugly 👎


Kanzan

Self sovereign, off grid power, local food.
Yoga. Meditation. Discipline.

Free people make their mistakes faster.

You don't change the UoA by dividing by the USD price of Bitcoin.


so much for "beauty"

you are an ugly person
promoting ugly ideas

thats YOU bro
not Republicans

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lol "facts "
its horseshit written by a kid whose has no actual life experience yet

bye


so...
government is (also) stealing from the people with the lowest income in the nation?


tha fuk is "moneros custodian"?


no.
I dont want the federal government owning Bitcoin.


oh I meant this to be a reply

yeah
rhetorical question


dude
you're using Tracphone and complaining about the feel of Pixels 😒


what wrong with eliminating taxes on tips?
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yeah.
this.

as he said
the people who voted for Harris were just voting "not Trump"


source?


you're an asshole dude

uneducated.country people are often smarter

and if they have "worse cultures"
whatever the fuck that means,
its usually because their economies have been exploited by elitist assholes like you


The founder of the Session messaging app has moved to Switzerland after a visit from Australian police 😬

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/nov/05/session-encrypted-messaging-app-developer-moves-out-of-australia-police-visit-switzerland


thanks for being the witness 🙏


lol
yeah

I've noticed many conflicting feelings all day 😂


I don't deny that there's some nationalist rendencies that are coming up
but they come up because people feel like the system is not working for them

People feel disenfranchised
That's the prime mover, not racism.

When people feel like they have enough and their families are healthy and happy and safe,
they don't worry about the foreigners in the neighborhood.


thanks for clearing that up lol

reputation and the goodwill of your neighbors are priceless.

I'm not worried about it 👍


Also
becasue I feel bad being on the cynical side of this bet
if I win I'll donate the xmr to Lyn Ulbricht


before April 29th
if I win I'll donate the xmr to Lyn


lol right?!
I'm gonna have to just call her (him?) out if I dont get paid.

gentleman's bet


I hope I lose too 😀


For the record, I'm taking this bet.

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I'm betting mister _monster 5 monero it doesn't happen in the first 100 days.


I'll bet you 5 xmr Trump pardons Ross Ulbricht.


No way, the guy doesn't give a shit and he's already forgotten he said it.

You're on.


I mean
I feel like it's taking money from you....

Are you sure?


5?!
What time frame?
before the end of his term or first 100 days? something like that?


yeah I have a spring at the top of my 40.
water is life 👍


oh I see

it took about 15 years of dedicated work to get here lol
fortunately i was able to get a place there was already a little infrastructure


before he needed your vote.
now hes elected.


Fantasy.

Ross is a politcal prisoner for operating a free market.
the state has zero incentive to free him. dunno what "good faith" is supposed to be in this context.

as if Trump remembers and Biden is tracking DJTs random promises.
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what is the incentive exactly?
(there isn't any)

he already got y'all to vote for him 🤷


Unfortunately there is zero political advantage to parodoning Ross
theres not enough of us who care.

and theres potentially a lot of downside


compliance is freedom

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my homestead

pic taken sometime in the last week or two 😉


as if a wikipedia copypasta was definitive

obviously you have nothing to add
just repeating shit you heard on the internet as if it was factual


durrr
I always believe what the judiciary says about people who operate free markets
durrr


hope springs eternal 😕


Just as soon as we finish collecting tens of millions of dollars from Israel and cozying up to Thiel


Not really
There's only so much they can do to alter the dominant narrative
once all the media outlets call it a particular way and the news cycle has gotten carried away it's extremely difficult to change it

The Dems have to be very sure that they're going to be successful if they're going to challenge it in any substantial way

And frankly with the way they've been running campaigns the last couple cycles
I don't think they give a shit


hope springs eternal


I would certainly bet on it.

Fox has already called it and the other networks will follow in the next few hours.

All those pink except maybe AZ are already solidly Red
PA has gone red
as has GA

game over


you're quite the masochist aren't you


ok they called PA

thats a wrap I think


"this time its different" 👍

as opposed to the current dumb old man...


all politics is 99% bullshit.

and politicians are incentivized to do absolutely nothing.


maybe the mop up
but if he takes PA it's basically over methinks
its looking too decisive

cant see Harris taking WI MI and MN at this point


we'll just have to see.
it's unlikely to be politically expedient to actually do mass deportations.


there's nothing yet
although Penn looks pretty locked up atm
then just one more.... 😕


you're literally parroting npc lines bro

try a little harder


well we cant all hangout in airport bars
some of us have 40 acres of off-grid homestead to maintain
😘


yeah
they drank the MSM coolaid and never figured out the system just isn't working for the majority of people.

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my condolences


sure
I bet it's on his list right after cozying up to Israel and Thiel

then he'll make the feels of 20k randos good at great political expense to himself 🙄


congratulations on being part of the problem i guess


gave up doing that in 2016 lol


and then people repeat it online incessantly
as if it were factual
and the lines become increasing blurred

smh


cool bro


don't have fb but I know what you mean


TIL if you don't accept the findings of circuit court judges as fact
then you lack intellectual integrity and are engaging in biased reasoning.

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Look
people are not guilty of things that they have not been found guilty of.

The courts had incentive to prosecute him and being skeptical of the judges opinions is not a stretch

That IS objectivity
Uncritically accepting their ideas is not.

"We've decided sentence him as if he was guilty of murder for hire even though he wasn't actually found guilty of it in a court of law"

Do you hear yourself?


Im sure its at the top of his list

right after
1. receiving millions of dollars from the Israel lobby
2. cozy up to Elon and Thiel

3. make the feels of 20k fringe freaks good at great political expense


yeah
i have wikipedia too bro


like I said
where I'm from we dont repeat unproven allegations as truth.

and if what you say is even true
which is debatable
its not how the justice system is supposed to work.


they literally dropped all those charges.
where I come from we dont repeat statist disinformation as it was truth


feels good man
#countrylife
#offgrid
https://i.nostr.build/KRtiKJ1wGO0VYcVT.jpg


In which Amir says he tell his friends disenchanted with Bitcoin
"come home to #Monero"

and gets excited about Moneros full chain membership proof upgrade to provide "perfect privacy" (coming soon™)

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for real 🤣

to hear Amir call Monero "wealth" and be excited for FCMP is pretty damn awesome.


thats true.
but theres no good way to spin #freeross for political gain. we are enough of a demographic for him to show up and ramble, do his schtick for two hours and make some promises.

not enough to actually take on political risk.

DJT is busy making inroads with Israel, Elon and other big players. *that's* the priority and he's not going to do anything to endanger those relationships.


"Remember, remember"

what did you do today to subvert irrelevant power structures desperately clinging to relevancy?
https://i.nostr.build/99uJ8aJlQkOBlSV8.jpg


this is correct.

plenty of political downside to freeing Ross.
very little upside.


The political cost is being painted as weak and soft on crime for freeing someone whose enabled millions of dollars in drug trafficking.
plenty of risk.

its the political gain that's lacking.
theres what, maybe 30k libertarians who care?


I like this guy 👍


cheers m8 nostr:npub1jcympy69pht7ptan39se4nd09e4q66qhey649uu3rczm2zh88c7s0n2890

#freesamourai

https://i.nostr.build/x25HXPyhaNz22AUV.jpg


and hey
sometimes crazy people do crazy things


Being a narcissist everything revolves around his public perception.
particularly being perceived as strong.

He won't do anything that gives an opportunity to portray him as weak in any way.
There are hundred things he CAN do but  there are a lot more things that are less risky with more benefit.

I really hope I'm wrong though 😕


i am a unashamed fanboi for years 😀


That is a straight up lie
Or I believe they're referred to "campaign promises"

There is no incentive for him to do it (for what, maybe 10k crypto freaks) and let the Dems paint him as soft on crime for his entire term


thanks! will check it out


"Learning Crypto"
i guess...?

havent tried to find it.
but the guy seems pretty cool
with his questions and overall manner


nah
he says it's an important piece of history about the Bitcoin Foundation and the attempted hostile takeover of Bitcoin back then


I think we're gonna find out!


Hey
do either of you guys know the video he's talking about at the beginning when he mentions dark wallet and Cody Wilson?


If Trump were to free Ross at all
it wouldn't be until the end of its term on his way out

And extremely unlikely he'd do it then either


New Amir Taaki interview on a pod Ive never heard of.

The guy is brilliant and completely right on in everything he says.
10/10 no notes

its the 720p version
https://v.nostr.build/L7ek0UVCjMY2yg0m.mp4
#monero
#freedom
#bitcoin


bitcoin maxis : "the state will raid your house with SWAT for having an illegal squirrel!!"

also bitcoin maxis : "when bitcoin displaces the fascists who run the world I will simply tell them I lost my keys"

🤡


It makes a nice commercial when chainanal are monero fanbois


"Because Bitcoin is a tool and people use it to DO things"

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The "bitcoin university" guy, what's his name? Kratter?
he was trying to make the case Kamela was the bitcoiner choice lol


just sayin
the total amount of sunlight don't change


no i haven't seen him


you're not waking up early enough


but
nobody except y'all know I have monero...?


classic
https://dark.fi/insights/memetic-warfare.html
https://i.nostr.build/fLrcAgn1G21Itt0q.png


just foolin ❤


tbf
some of those are hate follows 🤣


keep your mouth shut and be polite


what kind of bean do you like?
if Columbian is ok Doug's beans are alright
https://gratuitas.org/


I've used cashapp on a graphene phone.

Do you have play services and the store running?


white magic


In the Japanese version it's about a woman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KmAPOisNXY


retard detector is off the chart!


Is there really something to be gained by promoting outrage with lies?

(I mean, I'm as amused by it as anyone but for real yo)


wow
having smug judgements about a fake smug article

so meta


omg the people who are thinking this is a real thing

jfc touch some grass


Gboard requires "Speech Recognition and Synthesis"

with that installed you should get it as an option in Settings -> Languages -> Voice Input


If you use Gboard, on GrapheneOS you can prevent it from accessing the network.

But yeah, would suggest trying Sayboard first.


awesome! who needs to bake their own bread when you have mennonites down the road?


mostard is good too


mostly ok
but its always adding "thank you" to the end of text


This is what "opting out" means

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...
ramen spoon... 🙅


sorry Howard
unfollowing because of the constant dumping today

catch you later


Hey

I think there are three options

Transcibro (on Accrescent)
Sayboard (Github)
or Gboard with googles voice recognition thingy


sounds tasty
did you bake it?


lol
and we'll get 200k by conference day this time too


lol sure

and i could turn on CNN and get an accurate picture of world events


let me ask you this then.

where do you go to learn about these supposed "sound economic principles"?

maybe at some point they were "two separate things"
but they are de facto one now.


which is why things are going so well of course.
its just math.
based on all the freely available empirical data 🙄

(that data doesnt exist either, any more than there are "sound principles")

the incentive structure is broken.
as a result the "sound economic principles" are manufactured to match presupposed necessities.
and then data is tainted with confirmation bias to support them.

its not just economics. its every highly politically charged arena where power and money is involved.


tbh
if "reputable economists" were clamoring for anything
I'd be opposed on principle.

the economics profession is in shambles


cool idea 👍


"I'm having chest pains"
🤣🤣🤣
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thaats it.

where did you get these?!?!


holy shit
i cant believe you have these

actually was thinking of the sweet emotion video but this is hilarious too
forgot Liv Tyler was in this


key control is the "can you drive stick" of the new generation


clearly a man of taste and decency


today we're teaching poodles how to fly


omg

what was the ALtv one where he did the voiceover on the Aerosmith video?
with the phone sex line?


in the Japanese version the song is about a woman


right back atcha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KmAPOisNXY


i mean
cats kill everything because its their nature.

governments do it because...
oh wait.


I do not use the zap store
Obtanium.

you need to contact the dev to get the hash.

but mostly thats a PITA so I'm just trusting their github.


lol
no.


Bad is a value judgment that I hadn't really considered.

I don't think that encouraging people who are simply interested in exercising power over others has turned out very well.

instead of narcissistic psychopaths I would prefer stoics who find value in sacrificing themselves for public benefit.

its an old fashioned idea,
but better than the resigned attitude we have towards public corruption these days.


I'm certainly not advocating for this system,
in fact I refuse to participate in it.

but thats whats up.
theyre psychopaths. psychos want to have power over people so they concentrate in places where the power is.
the more power there is, the more competition between bigger crazies.

my idea of a solution is opting out and a return to local economies.

and you know,
maybe kill the psychos.


XMR/USD × BTC/XMR
https://i.nostr.build/70ccEIgv5FEYkEp3.png

(not a bitcoiner tho)


THEY ARE ALL FIAT CHARTS

https://i.nostr.build/7HwxDs06cI5lRUDi.gif
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completely different...
Rose family 😯

thanks!


theres arguably a survival advantage to being a psyco and having psychopath leaders.


When there is smoke and mirrors everywhere,
sometimes just being a windbag is confused with being a "fearless leader"

But I agree that an windbag narcissist is preferable in a lot of ways to a simpering idiot.


nobody who wants to be president should be allowed to have the job.

he doesn't care about you or me or "tyranny".
hes gonna get his.

its not specific to DJT.
its just the state of affairs these days.

you have to be a psychopath to be in the position he is in.
its just physics.


sorry
ummmm
Heather family....

Manzanita!


💯
what other people say or do doesn't really change what I'm going to do anyway


we weren't talking about whether he was an ally of "Christian America"
(as if that was a homogeneous thing 🙄)


she has a bed and an old sweatshirt of her own to sleep on.
but shes gotta try and fit on my skinny knees to catch a nap
#catstr
https://i.nostr.build/U0vwBONKxUAWSLfJ.jpg


yeah?
i agree that perception is why he's popular among Christians.

but its a non sequitur.


too much incentive to distort information and provide rhetoric instead.

you can even see it here on nostr.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯


i got it as you intended.

Shoulda guessed it was Carlin. nobody had language skills like him.


that said, DJT aint Jesus.
hes a narcissistic asshole.

being divisive isn't the most important metric of good (or bad) leadership.


"Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword."


Balkanization intensifies


Maybe
it's really hard to tell exactly what the differences are without sources of accurate information.

which don't exist.


yes can confirm


i mean
cats kill everything because its their nature.

governments do it because...
oh wait.


and literally as well


Arctostaphylos?


heh 🌀


beautiful caps!

what going on with that bread??


Yeah I'd be really impressive if he had anything to say


Unfortunately there's not enough of a population on the moon to make it worthwhile to force dollar homogeny on them 😂
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dont be ridiculous

the moon is a light in the sky
not a place people can go

duh


the short short answers to why there isnt a moon base are:
1. water is heavy
2. rockets are expensive
3. nobody gives a fuck/we have other problems

its not hard to understand


lol


dont worry

they're not going to let anyone stop the printing


I'm gonna have to mute you ignoramus' huh?


i dunno bro
most stoics have a lot to say about restraint.

他人にやさしい
自分に厳しい


you're hilarious bro

"pleeeze tell me everything about mkultra mr CIA man. i filled out a form online and made it sound super professional!"


sorry wrong paragraph


lol
fake names are absolutely NOT allowed
which you would know if you did the *slightest* research

"Individuals seeking access to records concerning themselves shall provide their full (legal) name, address, date and place of birth together with a signed statement that such information is true under penalty of perjury or a notarized statement swearing to or affirming identity. If the Agency determines that this information is not sufficient, the Agency may request additional or clarifying information."


what are you, 14 yrs old?

tell you what
you figure out what records you want and Ill consider KYCing myself to ask for them.

https://i.nostr.build/x9140JqWvdrsWioB.png


satellite.earth

still early days tho


facts.

now that you mention it
getting a little tired of ground beef...


which client is pleb?


lol
yeah i guess that's just how it goes huh?

I've been using ppw.ai
do you know any other non-KYC access points?

I'm not ready to self host yet lol


This is a correct opinion :D
Pretty sure he's juuuust smart enough to realize it.


The Thiel connection notwithstanding
DJT is not "antiestablishment."

He does have very good branding
and has had 4 years for the current group of thugs backing him to get their shit together.


fr
definitely seriously underestimated


¯\_(ツ)_/¯
the first time you play with it you want to use los of prompts and screw around.
I must have generated close to 100 images.


you're paying with your data.
so I'd suggest it isn't actually cheaper.
the real price of BTC is that price that's 1-5% above the Conbase price.


It took me an hour and about $2 worth of Monero to generate my new pfp
Aside from that I haven't found any use for AI lol


around here we have dark views about KYC buys 🤨


yeah
lol
its always a learning experience at first.

Wise is pretty useful though. still KYC
but at least they don't know it a Bitcoin purchase.


"levels" isnt really putting it the right way.

but you know what I mean.


yeah for sure

i just mean there are subtle levels of consciousness.
it's good to aspire to clarity.


every interaction you will ever have changes your consciousness.

make the best of it 🧘
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yeah
+1

ive never had a problem
but its always taken a little time 😄


Curious if that makes you *more* sober

or if it adjusts your consciousness to a preferable state 😉


if you're keto or something
and eat a plate of pasta after 4mos of no carbs its becomes clear pretty quick I think

everything is like that
that why "sobriety", although admirable,
is kinda a myth


It can be pedantic sometimes

To what extent does the food we eat alter our consciousness?


mind altering substances 😉


fuck off


Oh they do?

I guess the whole platform is called Wise now. Thanks.


Do you happen to know if Robosats supports Transferwise?


there's like 10 black people in Japan


Maybe Ill give Read You another look.
I dont do YT subs anyway...

and it IS a good looking app


I love how these monthly recaps are a couple delistings,
and then a loooong page of R&D development 😀

this is what winning looks like
#monero

https://v.nostr.build/d34APy4EfXOYuGsn.mp4


absolutely

live free or die


must not know any Japanese people either 🤪


can't read this without 90s flashbacks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGr6W5dX1Z4


I eventually found an AI site that would do it and it did a good job
But it did require like 10 USD and an email address


But yeah
if the need is just for voice to text input for the phone, this or sayboard
or gboard with networking disabled


Yeah I've used this
I thought they meant a site that would do the transcribing for them

Rather than personally having to speak the whole thing into text

Which I think you could do with this
although I had problems with it just doing half a sentence and then getting confused


I looked into this a few months ago
and I didn't find anything that fit those criteria

but if you do find something, I'm very interested


+1
i listened to this one the other day and thought of it when I saw your note too.
good perspective 👍

skip her episode on AI tho


I get it off Accrescent


AppVerifier does it

getting the signatures is the hard part


agreed
theres absolutely zero advantage for him tk follow through

folks have *already* forgotten he didn't free him last time

but hes gonna let the Dems set him up as soft on crime?
nah


lol
pandering go up


not open source

and last time I looked into it they only accepted sats through Coinbase

😒


killing it bro! we're all rooting for you!

https://i.nostr.build/ZJScgaCoPYieGhG1.gif


"get some help man"

"YOU MAD BRO? TRIGGERED BY MY FURRY PORN? YOU'RE SO DEFENSIVE"

🤣🤣🤣


mfker want to rehash 2020 today 😂
go ahead bro, you're doing great!

https://i.nostr.build/qFyDzAhK5eCQwnO4.gif


masala chai
but with honey not sugar


apparently furry porn lives in your head rent free

i suggest a psychiatrist.


uh
cool story bro

you're arguing with yourself moron.


thats me

I'm bitches


I really dont think lack of enthusiasm about BTC/USD is a big problem 🤨


I could take him


no man

DJT is gonna turn on the taps 😂


DJT is an idiot
but this campaign is killing it


pretty sure its going to be a blowout they cant cover up.

not that I have any particular love for DJT
but Kamela has so little to offer
i think NC, PA, WI, and MI will likely all go red

they can only do so much.


yeah it's really not though.

when people start listing prices in sats.
and not the BTC equivalent amount of a USD price.

iow
when we're UoA its the denominator.


damn
the projection is strong with this one.

lots of skeletons in his closet 😬


you're just not voting hard enough


Which part is confusing to you?

It might be helpful if you understand that this sort of "BREAKING "  comes out every year or two and has never amounted to anything substantial.


Brave is bloatware
use Cromite 👍

https://github.com/uazo/cromite


totally.
some outlet are ridiculous.

there's a *lot* of cheap acid these last few years.


theres like three or four different crystals available these days that are 95%+


woah

I could never sleep while tripping
not for like 8 hours anyway


nah
maybe if the entire weight of the paper was amphetamine

but acid is so cheap and plentiful
its not profitable to adulterate it with anything.

now X
that's often cut or just a straight up research chemical


lmfao


so I should be flipping BTC in Monero...?
🤔


oh no
whatever shall i do if I am exposed? 🙄
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maybe not a popular opinion

but based trad groupthink isnt going to work out any better than commie groupthink
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OMIGOD THEY PASSED A LAW TO TRANSITION INFANTS!!!

IF YOU'RE NOT OUTRAGED YOURE A FAG!!


enjoy your circle jerk


the shit is outrageous enough
you don't have to lie about it.


I'm not overlooking anything

but I'm not peddling outrage for outrages sake either


I mean

a simple search will show you that the law says nothing about transitioning infants.

parents could do it. sure. i guess.

so I guess lets be outraged about the possibility? 🙄


easier to have that opinion than to think critically 😕


I'm interested....


this bullshit again.

somebody stop me.

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sigh

its a fiat chart dude. they're all fiat charts.
comparing the USD value of BTC to the USD value of XMR is a USD measurement.

obviously.


obviously it not irrelevant if the cost of the goods and services is denominated in USD

which I would guess is why you're showing me USD charts.


"I agree that USD is garbage.
But let me show you my graph"

so weird... 😖
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well then
why are you showing me garbage charts?

makes no fucking sense...


these things are usually the result timing analysis of swapping between chains.

in this case
since monero is illegal in Japan, "analyzing the flow of Monero" could literally mean they know some monero was sent somewhere
(the article also says the feds were in their chat group),
and then they found a suspect in possession of monero.


a fiat maxi?

at least you have your priorities straight.
nobody will contest that BTC is worth more in USD denominated garbage 🗑

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


weird
thanks for the heads up


unbelievable that even intelligent people think Monero can be trivially traced
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hmm
ive never had a problem 🤷


Not using a VPN or Tor doesnt enable tracking sender or receiver.

like
at all.


thats the wrong note but its in there somewhere.

Basically they say they "analyze the flow of Monero"
But it's worthwhile to note that Monero is illegal in Japan so "analyze the flow" could just mean that they know some Monero was sent and they found a suspect in possession of some.


my .02 USD after reading the Nikkei source article

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are you for real?

Cointelegraph puts out *more* clickbait and you think it means something?!


Theres no qualifications that can be written and fairly applied without centralizing.
You're talking about forming a committee and coming up with criteria for membership in an exclusive governance circle.

to make a long story short,
its not gonna happen.


yikes


for real?!

hmm, I stand corrected.


theres nothing shitty about monero


funny because its true


Have any USPS enjooyors had the experience  that it takes *days* for an item to actually start moving through the system?
Not at Christmas or anything
just as SOP?

like every time you drop a package off they don't seem to touch it for three or four days?
as a consistent thing? for months?

seems unlikely to me.


these are both excellent

but refined sugar is a shitcoin 🤪


So who's qualified to decide who's qualified?

I don't think you're understanding the nature of the problem. There's nobody I'm comfortable having that degree of control over the project.


likewise

there's always been a fight for freedom and self-determination.
we've always had the tools.

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you dont think that having a centralized group of people in charge of modifications could be a problem?


not loading homie


snowflake ❄

thanks for the suggestion
i had 12oz of bacon and 6 eggs
GFY

https://i.nostr.build/B81lkXvrc6yJ1dY5.gif


well hes muted me
so I guess I'm the bigger jerk

or hes a *sensitive* asshole


can confirm
almost 2 years here


hes just kinda an asshole 🤷


blocked and reported


so happy I am insulated from all that


sorry Captain

simple to setup on a VPS
even one-click on a Yunohost 😀


nossir


meh
Primal is obviously the Apple of nostr.

centralized 3rd parties are security holes blah blah


weirdest damn thing


These things are usually the result of people flipping in and out of other chains.
The language the article uses is pretty vague so basically theres no good data.

The dev chat is conspicuously ignoring the story lol 😂

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Thanks for the reply brother!

Quite true than LN isn't needed.
I'd just like to be able to do images and not click Amber for every event.

But so far this is my favorite interface (with functionality anyway. I like satellites look but it doesn't do much)

anyway, I hope you're interested in maintaining it long term 😀


some things you should keep to yourself maybe?


Yeah saw that
I suppose it's just another thing to do 🤷


Yeah I wanted to try it out too
but it's only available on the Play Store so I'm kinda meh also


seems like it 😕


doesnt load for me either on Graphene


yeah
i tried it out today

profile wouldn't load
following feed was empty
relays all gone

looked good but not impressed


Great overview of Samourai Wallet, Tornado Cash, & other legal proceedings insights.

https://youtu.be/8RSPKd9PwNk


nm

i see yours is a subaddy


does it have to be a primary address?
or is a subaddress ok?


doh

thanks 🙂↕


I don't particularly care about the old one. As far as I know, nobody has actually sent anything to it since I drained the wallet and uninstalled Garnet.

Do you know how mostard is determining my xmr address?
Suppose I want another different one associated with this npub?


yeah pretty sure tattooing an ID number on the population has been an idea for a while


and, like the value transfer problem
people have been thinking about Proof of Person since then

key pairs are cheap to produce
and there's no way to prove a single entity hasn't produced millions


does someone have a link to this documentary?


theres definitely nothing better
I just dont really want a gamified Twitter-like interface

i want Satellite but with XMR zaps lol


I dont know that one. I'll take a look.
But if I'm going to have to have a dedicated app I might as well go back to Amethyst...


which begs the question of how you manage to get 80% of your yearly budget in XMR 🤨


Also I can't seem to Install custom emoji reactions even though the flow seems straightforward.
I can delete ones that are there but I can't get them back


Okay some thoughts running Mostard (Nostrdel fork with XMR support) through Vanadium.

I can't upload any pictures. It just spins.

I don't see any zap button anywhere, although I can allegedly connect with NWC.

I have a Monero icon in my profile which goes to an address which I dont have access to anymore
(leftover from Garnet?? 🤨)

and I have to manually confirm every action with Amber. It doesn't seem to want to give these permissions to Vanadium.

All these issues seem to occur also with Nostrudel so its not a Mostard thing. None of these individually are deal breakers but together it's kind of a hassle 😤


It does not seem to work
mine just spins
Thanks for the reply though


I highly doubt there's an algorithmic way to prove personhood
But I agree that it's an interesting problem.

If the Maxis were intelligent, they could make a strong argument that it's a different problem than value transfer 😉


yeah but it really is though

its just a Frankenstein Rube Goldberg machine


Graphene is the bomb yo

worth getting an old Pixel for...


Thank you! Yeah I saw they're not releasing an APK to GitHub.  There's probably a reason for that but not being An Android Dev I don't know what it is.

Yes I'm on graphene


Benevolent dictatorship


Yeah for this reason they pay close attention to the election and despite being a socially conservative society they root for Democrats.


thank you but I dont have the Play store

I'd like to download straight from the dev.
if their npub is known I'll dm them.


The Japanese do.
Mostly because they're next door to China and have protection guarantees from us.

So a return to American nationalism could mean that we leave them to be exploited by their big scary neighbor.


wheres the android one?


all depends when you go to sleep don't it?

I cant sleep past 6 if I tried lol
lights out at 10


I talk big lol

but honestly
when I write a letter or hagaki I write it out on the computer first


nostr.build works
if you have an account


I forget what I did on mine 😕
Its a 10yr old laptop I got specifically because there some software for my solar setup that is only windows.

Mustve installed Win first, then booted from ventoy, resized and installed linux.

Yeah, if you need to preserve your current install thats a pain.
I'd just backup data and hose the whole thing.


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

suit yourself


cant you just resize the partition, install Windows on it and boot from either with grub?

is that option 1?


yeah this is correct I think.

the only way to properly remember kanji is the old fashioned way.
write it over and over again.

preferably with a brush.


so Endeavour is just for lightweights maybe 🤔


yikes 😬
hang in there brother


and stay how exactly???

better be prepared
those Japanese wives are not as submissive as you may have been led to believe
(not that I need to tell you 😂)


that sounds pretty damn awesome


"We Are The World". ACRYLIC ON A3. 200G/M², FINE GRAIN PAPER. BY SID, 2024. 5 o https://image.nostr.build/0348e99e42290b0c8296cf784d37cb745d29b5e414b52156a0ffdbe0b6992299.jpg 5 of 10. Original artwork. 10:10 collection, comes with certificate of authenticity. #Monero
DM me if u are into owning this Original. /SID $XMR
#art #graffiti


as far as I can determine,
its The Law around here 😂


whether they participate in the process or not,
their illusions will be destroyed.


cooking is awesome and
IME anyway
the tactile nature of it is much more fulfilling than computer work.

but self-determination is supreme
and if I can't work on the stuff that interests me, I'll go to where I can.


yeah I guess Bitcoin is all kinds of things to different people
so fine, put it wherever.
for now anyway.

But eventually people have to destroy their illusions.

and Bitcoin is just a decentralized ledger.


you have a shitty attitude


hey what do you Arch people think of EndeavourOS?

Imma load it up on a spare machine and take a look.


Orange pill is a non sequitur here.
As if that was some sort of superior understanding to How Things Are...?

weird


i think you'll want to set it to Proxy Mode.
Then youll have Tor running on port 9050


"IM SO EXCITED TO BE RICH AND VALIDATED BY NORMIES"
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yeah exactly


i suggest using Invizible rather than Orbot
https://github.com/Gedsh/InviZible


things are bad when people I like are agreeing with Vitalik


it's really like that


This says that there is legal precedent for compelling people to force them to open their devices and the 5th Amendment does not apply.


that said
exactly when and how much to increase the blocksize isn't easy to reach consensus on


you already pay to search

either with your own data, exposure to ads, or biased results


From their FAQ

Search API
The Search API gives programmable access to Kagi's premium search results.

NOTE: The Search API is in closed beta and is currently available to Kagi Business (Team) plan. This is currently $19/mo plus search API cost (2.5c per search). Please reach out to support@kagi.com for invite.

We plan to release this API to all Kagi members after the beta period.


Pretty damn cool. Nice job.

of course, been using Kagi for a year with a Simplelogin alias and paying through LN.


i vote in the local stuff.

I'd love to see ranked choice voting too.


oh cool

here come the regulators


yay the suits who herald regulatory capture and NGU


Mickeys stingers and Mexican brick weed 😂


KYC goes hand in hand with maxis belief in the inevitability ot bitcoins success.
stay humble doesn't only mean "dont try to time the market"

avoid kyc and prepare for adversarial environments


nobody cares.
sorry


afaict
it isn't the doing that the problem.
its the talking about it publicly.

but whatever


for the curious, this is the post in question.

LogicallyMinded doesnt have any other posts about whatever bullshit this is (and it IS probably bullshit) in the last two weeks.
or more, I didnt look further.
But homeboy here is full of religious fervor and must call out the shill 🙄

what do you think?
honest question about node centralization/decentralization?
or transparent shitcoin shilling?
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The main thing I miss about amethyst is that I can't upload pictures on Nostrudel/Mostard

I want to share catster pics 😕


At first I was like "is bro just nervous?"

But it seems like his brain actually works that way
People are wild man


Dude that was so hard to understand


these are both problems.

also
they are not the subject we are talking about


sorry everyone

asking questions about any digital monetary technology other than Bitcoin is just a "rhetorical device for shills".

please stop asking them.

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Nobody can deny that there's a problem with centralization of the aspects of the network. Mining in particular .
It's a reasonable thing to have a conversation about.

Unless you're a zealot apparently.


You're not calling out shit bro
You're just waving the Maxi flag because it feels good to be a member of a group

You have nothing to add
You have no criticisms to make
Just "I dont like this speech"

A quick look through the op's profile and he hasn't mentioned this thing before as far as I can tell so he's scarcely a shitcoin shill.
But you're so sure he's asking a rhetorical question so he can "promote a scam".

Get over yourself


This is just "I read saifdean's book and think I understand something about the nature of money"
"Don't you know that all money returns to one bro"

also he didn't say his shitcoin was "better than Bitcoin" he was asking a question about node decentralization.
You just got triggered by somebody mentioning something else.


There are reasons that things work or don't work. And understanding those reasons are important.

sorry not sorry

Must be nice to drink the Kool-Aid and avoid all responsibility for actual thinking.


or Feeder


anti-inrellectual maxi zealotry certainly is a big problem.

having a large mass of people involved who cant think critically about the tradeoffs that Bitcoin makes is NOT an asset.

And yes it does make trade-offs, it's not perfect. So quit pretending like you can ignore everything other existing technology.


Classic Maxi script
"Everything I don't agree with Is bullshit.
No I won't explain why.
Go fuck yourself"

Congratulations on being the problem with Bitcoin


nice story bro 👍


If you understood anything about it you could make an intelligent objection.

Instead of just maxi Bible thumping


sure you are


What he asked was "Is identity staking (for which one person can only run one node) the solution to keep blockchains decentralized over time? "
Which is a reasonable question to ask.
You just lack reading comprehension skills


Nowhere did he "promote them" except as far as talking about something is "promoting it"
He asked the question, a reasonable ask "Is identity staking (for which one person can only run one node) the solution to keep blockchains decentralized over time? "

And your response was to jump on him and call him a shitcoiner. So GTFO


you can do that when youre pushing 50 and some kid is trying to talk down to you


There is nothing to suggest that they're a Honeypot


A lot of our social problems stem from people being incapable of critical thinking.

Zealotry is easier. Its a quick dopamine reward.


Um
the average global temperature is a vastly different thing than local temperature oscillations. The two aren't really connected in any meaninful way.

and no, I don't believe them.


"YOURE a religious bigot for mentioning other protocols besides Bitcoin"

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look son
I was on BBS systems in 90s and saw the first cypherpunk wars.
so you can fucked with the "study harder" bullshit.

We'd probably agree that the bullshit hes describing is crap if we looked into it.
But until you take a look, STFU.


lol I forgot about that.


that's intellectually lazy and antithetical to the effort made by cypherpunks who thought critically about tradeoffs and cost/benefit analysis.

gtfo with your religious bullshit


Why is the eyeball scanning part relevant?
I mean,
they can deny you passage at any time.

The scanning is dystopian af
but it doesn't change the fundamentals. yet anyway.


Dude
if it's a shitcoin it's a shitcoin for a reason.
You should be able to articulate that reason.
Either do that or gtfo.


cakepay is so damn convenient when you want to spend some xmr.

XMR -> gift card at practically any major storefront in seconds 😎


neither are good sources of data.

but memes are more entertaining.


Im old bro

We've known DJT was a wannabe elite hustler who could barely keep casinos running
and instead pivoted to branding garbage and selling it as quality to losers

like since the 90s


yeah, digging it actually
although i like satellite better...

also Amber prompts me to sign every event
kinda lame.


I'll save you the suspense.

he's not going to do it.


He didn't lose any money lol
and he didn't have crowds of thousands screaming his name

hes a narcissist
narcissists are assholes


The All American pure aluminum ones are the bomb 👍


yeah no.
DJT doesn't know or care about Bitcoin. its just another speculative instrument or way to scam people

have fun with your crypto or whatever else youre playing with


DO IT!

spending 10 years living in the woods and barley touching a computer was really good


Trump is a fiat maxi.
Regulatory capture is not good for Bitcoin.


There's always plenty of incentive for narcissistic assholes to be close to the levers of power.


I usually hold it to one a day
its bad for my stomach...

but i feel you in the colder weather. trying to avoid my 3rd rn 😁


tariffs are a retarded government interference in the free market
it only ends up damaging producers and their markets and makes determining the real cost of goods more difficult.


fuck
gonna have to learn the nuances of this LN shit 😤
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0.10 BTC and it's yours.
I'll drive it to you anywhere in the US. #forsale #btc
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what is the persistence of this information?

assuming no force closures, is the data "gone" after you burn the channel?


lets do it


being content with enough is the Way.

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Hmm.
That's a viewpoint people can have anyway.

The obvious objection to that idea is that if your UoA is has arbitrary monetary policies
ie the measuring stick is always changing,
it's a shitty measurement of value.

A fiat UoA makes accurate pricing impossible.
So you can argue "that's wealth because its what we use to measure with"
but its still a shitty measurement.

The whole point of me trolling fiat maxis (the ones who think theyre hard money maxis) is to encourage recognition that a fiat UoA is NOT accurately measuring value.


that's fucking awesome!


possible even he was intimidated by the platform?? 🤔


even if DJT does DMT
I'm still not voting for him.


absolutely.
I have a hard time tracking notifications and replys.

It kinda like wtf is going on here but better than a crowded client


Ikr??


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Ok so satellite is clearly the nicest interface. Thank you <3
can we get login from Amber so I can have it on mobile too?


If the supply is fixed
and the ledger is transparent
and there's a lot of wealth invested in it

then naturally there is a lot of incentive to track value transfer.
so chain analysis becomes a billions and billions business.

as time proceeds the number of utxos without registered owners only decreases.
unless there are strong privacy tools people can use conveniently 😕

It's easy to imagine BTC as becoming a surveillance chain
maybe it will have high fiat-denominated "value"
but it wouldn't be freedom money.

default privacy is an unfortunate necessary condition for freedom.


fiat is a helluva drug

just say no to fiat "wealth" kids
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Imagine thinking that fiat value is "wealth"

I store my time in freedom.
Which is real wealth.


finally


otherwise we just drift along,
nobody ever making any strong statements
or expressing any worthwhile opinions

a neutered, lukewarm society,
incapable of resolving conflict
and determined to avoid disagreement

so quit it with the word salad
and take a stand somewhere.


There may have been a couple of decades Democrats were demonstrably better at People problems than Republicans.

It's kind of a legacy thought process now
Afaict lots of Progressive Europeans also feel this way.

" Even though Democrats are terrible we have to vote blue because of Far right Nazism" Etc

smh


grooving on satellite.earth rn


This is now a basic life skill.

If not for taking custody of your money, then for proving your identity in a digital world.


Key control is the "can you drive a stick" of the current generation.

Everybody needs to learn to drive stick as quickly as possible.


**Security Update**

I've got some bad news for you guys. This morning, as I was adding error handling to flotilla, I discovered that Coracle has been sending user session objects to bugsnag when reporting errors.

Who is affected: Users who triggered an error in Coracle while signed in with their private key, since December 5th 2023.

What I've done:

- I immediately released a new version of Coracle, both to web and to zap.store
- I have deleted the affected apks from my releases
- I have deleted all my error data from bugsnag
- I have deleted my bugsnag project and rotated my api key, so lingering error reports will be dropped
- I have audited my code for use of the session object to ensure nothing else like this is happening

What you should do:

- If you're logged in with your private key, log out
- Hard refresh the page to ensure you have the latest version of Coracle

The bottom line is that if you signed in to Coracle with your private key, it has been shared with me and with bugsnag. In practical terms, your keys should still be secure, since they were sent over TLS, and have been deleted. But there is no guarantee I can offer that they are in fact gone.

I take my users' privacy seriously. My error reporting implementation doesn't record user IPs, it redacts identifying data, and it allows users to opt-out. I also warn the user when they attempt to enter an nsec into a text field. In this case, I simply screwed up, and I sincerely apologize. Reply to this note if you have any questions.


Monero is solid so that noobs can *just use it.*

nobody who is coming in fresh is going to replicate your LN flow. which has guarantees you cant personally measure anyway.

So quit being a bitch.


based


Nono didnt mean to imply that
I also was enjoying it this evening.


actually a really nice looking interface ;)


oh you think maybe the founding documents don't carry much weight?

The whole point of cryptography is that is gives us the oppotunity to *remove* information from the public sphere. You don't have to jump directly to meatspace kinetic violence. Which has a much higher social cost anyway.

Encrypting the information about who owns what is common sense.
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what does "the sentiment of the reply" mean and how is that measured?
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I will remove nostr and email clients from my mobile and see if I like that life better.

Some things should be done at a proper workstation.


+1
solid as they come
https://i.nostr.build/7SwcHvSTpgIo4Nnm.jpg


The Tanto is the best node package there is.
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Without privacy, you have no wealth.
There will always be a bigger, better armed bully.

Therefore, lack of Bitcoin privacy jeapordizes its censorship resistance.

also
"boating accidents" on a transparent ledger are a farce. nobody is going to believe that shit.


I think it's incredibly naive to think that you're going to dis-intermediate the bankers that run the world
and when their enforcement division comes at you, you're going to tell them,
"I'm not going to answer any questions."

And you rhink they're just going to walk away and leave you alone.
Theyre not.

They're going to have your keys or they're going to kill you to take your UTXOs off the board.

That is how power works.


maybe you shouldn't be so hostile about something you don't understand...?

just saying
¯\_(ツ)_/¯


just bitcoin

none of those aholes care about people


they do NOT say they traced his laundering attempt through monero smartass
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looks awesome!