Jack Dorsey is chill, you are definitely not chill.


Agreed. So much BS with his little anecdotes and words of advice for his followers, it feels very pretentious as if he thinks he's some kind of wise sage.


And what will you say to them Marty because I wonder what I will say if I am asked. "You didn't want to buy it when I said you should buy it at $5k so why are you asking me when it's $125k?" Thing is if they do buy at $125k (or higher) they absolutely won't be buying it when it drops and goes through the inevitable bear market or as it climbs back up again, they'll wait til the next bull run is in full swing & they'll tell me I was "lucky" to buy when I did. That's how the scenario goes in my head 🤷♂


He's a psychopath 😂


Jfc, what a way to display your dumb ignorance on a public forum.  Congratulations! 😂


Some people are more concerned with fasting than eating. The ultimate privileged lifestyle.


Lol! You are projecting. You have no evidence that most people think on here think everyone else is American.


It's isn't in Nostr.


I guess he means like Reddit with it's sub/Reddits.


So you wouldn't be nervous being filmed by a HBO crew while being framed as the person who owns over a million bitcoin? Can you imagine what a target that would make you. It's a lot harder for Peter to prove he isn't Satoshi that it is for some hack film maker to say he is Satoshi.


Not practical on any road with potholes, which is pretty much every road where I live. 🤷♂ It is beautiful though, great colour too.


I had to go into my phone settings & disable background data for Amethyst because it plays videos in the background, even videos I haven't clicked on. It used 857mb in two days and I barely use it. That's ridiculous.


Fyi, Hodl fancies himself as an expert in mental health, he has all the answers.


Good grief, you sound like an eight year old.


Anyone eating a balanced diet of *healthy* foods is going to be fine. A traditional Italian diet is great. As with a lot of countries highly processed garbage is pushed on the, American junk, and people fall for it unfortunately. It's sad


I do fine without meat. I haven't eaten meat, or lard, meat broth etc since 1985, almost 40 years. I do eat dairy & pretty much anything healthy, loads of fresh vegetables & fruits, nuts, legumes, whole grains etc. Never been overweight, blood tests always good. Eating a variety of healthy foods is the best thing you can do for yourself (& exercise of course), just go to places like Italy and see how they eat. Food fads like the current carnivore stuff aren't going to work out long term for good health & will die out like all other diets/fads.


Yeah the "all carbs are bad" stuff is ridiculous. Italians have been eating pasta for centuries & are doing fine, a lot better than most Americans.


You can be confident without being arrogant, right?


I'm English but live in the US. My family are in England & I often think I should move back at some point but apart from family & friends (which obvs are very important) there's little reason to live there. It does seem like a depressed run down place. I was a Remainer but came around to supporting Brexit after the fact. I think in the long run it will be positive that we left the EU. It won't be for a while yet though & I see myself staying in the US  for now.


What Jameson believes is good for bitcoin matters a lot more than your inane opinions.


Recently I heard that there is a variety of grapes that have been developed to taste like cotton candy. Wtf? 🤦♂


My ancestors lived in England, they would have no idea what an avocado is!


Don't know why anyone would do something as dumb as that tbh. A passphrase can be saved in a password manager perfectly safely.


In three months these numbers will be downgraded by a LOT. No-one with any sense takes these numbers seriously. That's not to say a recession is coming, I'm not a doomer, but they keep changing these numbers & it's always negatively months after the fact when people don't care.


Interesting. So do people fear more the potential of being made fun of by friends/family than the risk of losing money? Or is it equal? I guess if you have to consider both of them then it does become more difficult.


Disco is upbeat & happy. These dudes look like they'd be playing death metal or some dark depressing ambient stuff 😂


Well you just go look for the backup of the passphrase that you obviously made because you're a bitcoiner.


One would imagine any undecided voters in N. Carolina will now know who they won't be voting for.


Can you link some of the work from Cambridge  please becauseI'dm interested in reading it. 👍


Jfc where are you getting your nutritional information from? TikTok? Where is the scientific research that shows quitting seed oils will prevent sunburn? Honestly, the utter lack of critical thinking by some people is unreal.


This is so true. Organic seed oils are fine, they are completely different from the oils that the anti seed-oil freaks go on about but they never even consider it. The process to make them doesn't involve any chemicals but they have never taken the time to look into it. I've noticed in the 7+yrs of being in bitcoin that there is a strong tendency among some bitcoiners to latch onto things like the carnivore diet, anti-seed oils & more recently population collapse (its not going to happen) without really doing any critical thinking, it's kinda cultish behaviour.


My eldest nephew & his wife have nine kids. I hope you have at least that many 👍


Ha! We all are. I listened to Preston's podcast today & heard your prediction for next year. I like it but my sense is that it's too optimistic but I hope you are right. Hodl, Jack Mallers, Arthur Hayes, Samson have all predicted even higher price targets so it should be an interesting year.


Jeff are you feeling that you're "we're never going back to $58k" might be a bit premature? 🤔


Are you talking about Powell's in Portland? The staff demanded that some books could not be sold by the company a couple of years ago during the height of the DEI bullshit. The owner caved a little and removed them from the store but allowed them to be sold online. The hypocrisy of the Left is unreal at times.


Maybe they aware of their financial situations enough to know how many children they can support.


Also no-one eats 9 gallons of it a year, let alone it being the average amount.


A salad dtessing, not that far removed from salad cream but less sweet more savory


Just cos someone posted it on the internet doesn't make it true.


Don't trust, verify. No way is it even close to 9 gallons!


I deleted my Twitter account before Elon made the decision to buy it. I still go on there to look at a few accounts but do it with a Nitter instance that still functions so am not a victim to algo's or ads.

It's my opinion that Nostr will never become widely adopted & will remain used almost entirely by bitcoiners & that X will continue to be the primary social media space on the internet (unless the government starts to  clamp down on it). Normies are not going to start sorting through relays in order to use Nostr just as they are not going to set up hardware wallets and generate seeds so they can self-custody bitcoin. I imagine that social media will change significantly and that aspects of Nostr such as decentralization will be adopted in the future but Nostr is and will remain a place primarily for bitcoiners. I've been on Nostr almost two years & there has been no noticeable growth outside of bitcoiners.


She is the same person that she hates. She can criticize and mock those that don't vote the way she does but all her insults & putdowns of people who don't vote Democrat can be fairly used against her too. She's a liar,& a peddler in misinformation and a fascist.


It's really not that much different except that Nostr is about 99.5% bitcoiners so if you want to narrow down your engagement to just bitcoiners this is the place for you.


I've not listened to it. I am subscribed to Coin Stories so it showed up in my podcast feed but the last interview I listened to with him was typical politician BS. He won't say a single word that might come across as critical of any Democrat in office or the party itself. I listened to a Thomas Massie interview recently & he comes across as far more honest. I don't care for Ro Khanna at all even if he says he is pro bitcoin.


I hate that plastic bags of food now have zip locks on them them and are so shitty that they don't even work. Who tf comes up with these dumb ideas? 🤦♂


Regardless of changing definitions the idea that jealousy is healthy is ridiculous. Not sure what Hodl is thinking, this is some pseudo-intellectualism that really is poor.


Yeah some thing are better off left as ideas in someone's head, these things are a great example 😂


Why? 🤦♂


It's tough being an introvert in an extrovert world. I read Steven Levy's book Crypto earlier this year, Phil Z is a good man. That's really cool you got to meet him.


You might want to Google Jealousy vs Envy. Not sure why you would think jealousy is always healthy which is what you are saying. A more true statement if you think it can be positive would be jealousy *can* be healthy. To say jealousy is healthy is just obviously wrong.


Only if it's good for business


I used to be on the Left. I never liked the Democrats but I voted for them because I felt they were the better choice. I fucking hate them more than I've ever disliked the Republicans. The big problem is that Dems essentially controll big media which is extremely effective & unfortunately I think will help them stay in power. Really hope I'm wrong though 🙏


A lot of peeps that align with it probably don't realize the reasons for the mass immigration. The media will constantly push the idea that anyone saying it's a Dem tactic to stay in power is a far-right conspiracy theorist. It's going to backfire rather badly at some point & it's an even worse problem in Europe.


I did get a liitle burned by shitcoins at first, fortunately that didn't last long. Bitcoin was my saviour 👍


With regards to "bitcoin or bitcoins", which term did Satoshi use when he wrote about more than a single bitcoin? Surely whatever he used is the term we should all use. Personally I use bitcoin, I think bitcoins sounds so wrong.


Followers of diets always justify their diet, that's how it stays popular, until it dies out. It wasn't long ago that being gluten-free was the craze. The Adkins diet came & went, same as the fat-free diet. Same will happen with the carnivore diet. I don't care what you eat, go ahead & eat loads of farm raised animals & feel like you are eating like a caveman, makes no difference to me.


It's a fad like every other diet


That can be true. It's also true that many people  say drugs saved their lives. What I'm saying is that it can take a lot more than just exercise & not just the use of anti-depressants either.


Ha! Yeah these two make for some great moments in front of the camera. Living with my animal friends makes life so much more enjoyable 👍


I gave up on him a long time ago. Anyone - including bitcoiners - who constantly predict a housing crash, a huge upcoming recession, hyperinflation etc etc I ignore these days.


"we are way more fucked financially now than then."

🙄


But maxi's have always talked this way. They talked about bitcoin killing the banks, that bitcoin will be the world reserve currency, some even say that bitcoin will reach $1 million by the end of 2025. Hyperbole everywhere with bitcoiners.


Hodl is ridiculous sometimes. It's just like his assertion that all you need to do to fix your depression is go to the gym. People commit suicide because of depression but they could have saved themselves if they'd gone to the gym. He has also insisted that bitcoin will hit $1 million this bull run but his prediction for the last bull run was $300k. We havent even hit $75k yet. I like Hodl he means well but he isn't to be taken seriously.


Seems like he is alive & strong but Nostr is dying


Yeah I agree, some of the maxi's live in a dreamworld & Saylor is more realistic imo.


Here's an interview with Arthur Hayes yesterday in Coindesk talking about Blackrock ETF's you absolute genius. https://image.nostr.build/b1028d238bbeb60cb71e5f31db00670d8aa60ebfd5cae31d1ff1898ac7fe0a39.jpg


 I'm sensing a lack of confidence among bitcoiners recently. Arthur Hayes talked about Blackrock being in the ETF business for the benefit of the US gov't. On the other hand I never thought the $1 million predictions by 2026 by people such as Hayes, Jack Mallers, Samson Mow, Hodl etc are helpful at all, they will just disappoint people. We haven't even got to $75k yet never mind Hodl's previous bull run prediction of $300k a few years ago.

Personally I'm skeptical of another retail led bull run. Most people are aware of bitcoin & they are either going to buy it because they believe it's worth holding or they won't touch it, the days of jumping in on an upward move are likely gone for most people too many have been burned (although they should have held on instead of selling at a loss).

I agree with a lot of what Saylor says & it flies in the face of maxi's who used to tell us bitcoin will kill the banks. No, the banks will get involved in bitcoin if there's money to be made. Saylor is obviously very confident which helps me keep confident although as time goes by (been here over 7yrs) my confidence in bitcoin isn't what it was. Talk in the past of governments not being able to kill bitcoin seem a little fanciful now. I think the government's ability to crush anything it wants is more powerful than we like to believe. An inability to create a widespread use of bitcoin as a MoE coupled with a hostile government could be devastating to bitcoin.


I don't eat any meat but no doubt properly raised or wild meat is healthy food. What is ridiculous though is the meat-only brigade, the carnivore types. Extremism isn't healthy but it's their lives and IDGAF what they eat but it will have consequences 20-30yrs down the road for them.


I don't eat any meat but no doubt properly raised or wild meat is healthy food. What is ridiculous though is the meat-only brigade, the carnivore types. Extremism isn't healthy but it's their lives and IGAF what they eat but it will have consequences 20-30yrs down the road for them.


I don't eat any meat but no doubt properly raised or wild meat is healthy foid. What is ridiculous though is the meat-only brigade, the carnivore types. Extremism isn't healthy but it's their lives and IGAF what they eat but it will have consequences 20-30yrs down the road for them.


I haven't eaten any meat in 39 years. I'm not vegan, I just don't eat meat & always been in good health. These carnivore types are a bore.


I'm frustrated enough with Nostr that I might quit. The spam & bots are out of control & it just gets worse


He talks about it on a recent episode of the Bitcoin Standard Podcast


I'm in the pacific northwest & we have lots of farmers markets & there are great choices of fruits & vegetables here. I assume good quality meat is available too but I don't eat meat. I used to buy raw milk & eggs from a local farmer, not sure he sold meat tbh but if he did & I ate meat I would have bought it from him. I would never eat meat from a regular supermarket.


That doesn't surprise me. People can scream Freedom Tech but if it means getting absolutely hammered with spam and bots then Nostr will die pretty fast. Hope it gets dealt with soon, it's a shame.


Nostr needs to deal with bots & spam first, it's getting ridiculous.


Wow, the spam & bots in the replies. Nostr is becoming worse than X.


I say bullshit. I'm no Coinbase fan but 8 months into ETF's and them pulling this makes zero sense. It would be the end of their business in ETF's if they were caught doing it. It's just bitcoiners looking for a reason why the price isn't moving up & coming up with this.


Yeah well most animals that people eat are fed terrible food such as soybeans & corn so your argument isn't that strong.


Looks kinda run down judging by those photo's but at least it has a uniqueness to it.


Have you seen Nil By Mouth? It was written & directed by Oldman in the late 90’s. I haven't watched it since it was released but damn it was brutal. A great movie but very real, too real in some ways because the fucked up existence of the characters was hard to watch. Ray Winstone stars in it & he's always been a favourite of mine


It's so dumb. Why would anyone who is worried about flying with some weed decide to ditch it in one of those things instead of just a regular trash bin.


Throw your bag of weed in it before you fly bc it's illegal to carry pot across state lines.


Ha! Well it's your show and I will be listening anyway I just think you could have, as a marketer & very creative fella, come up with a better name. Real Bedford is awesome! Cheers! 👍


You could have chosen Mr Dickhead instead which people won't forget either but doesn't make it a good choice. You can do better!


For such a creative person it's a shame that this is the choice he made. It's still early he can change it.


I see no relevance Peter. Also I will be listening to the show despite the name, I was one of the first WBD listeners, started with the Charlie Lee episode (it might have been the one previous to it). Anyway best of luck on the new series 👍


Been living in OR for 19 years and still don't really know anything about Lewis & Clarke. Many times I've thought to change that and read up on them & the Oregon Trail but never have. Seems like a good time to start.


Can't believe the name. 🤦♂


But do you think it's the government's job to do it, or the parents?


Exactly my thoughts too. On the other hand some parents are neglectful and let their kids waste their childhoods on phones so this could benefit a lot of them but ultimately this is not the job of government.


Meh. America is getting worse as the years go by & it's on course to get even worse. I wouldn't be too proud of it if I were you it's definitely seen much better times.


I prefer the look of the Ten 31. A bitcoin hat shouldn't be aligned with one nation's flag.


The all caps thing really does need to end though.


" The world where everyone is saved by Bitcoin and no one suffers the consequences of the century of central banking can’t exist."

This is a perfect example of what I mean. This story has been told over & over for years, you are just repeating it without truly questioning whether it is even feasible. It's a dream that the hodler convinces himself but it cannot happen without adoption.


My point is that bitcoiners might be living in a dream. They certainly believed & definitely hoped to see the banks be replaced by bitcoin & it's my suspicion that bitcoin will not be the widely used MoE that some think it will. It already failed that in El Salvador. There are stories/narratives that bitcoiners hold on to such as "gradually, then suddenly" and "we are so early" to encourage holders to keep their convictions but after seven years I am beginning to question the validity of it all because without further adoption it dies. I will add that I hope I my concerns are unwarrented on this which is why I asked Jeff for his thoughts.


Yes I appreciatethatt & even though the dollar is less infaltionary I did the same. My btc is a lot more valueable to me than the dollars I bought it with. However we are a tiny minority & bitcoin isn't growing. I first bought in 2017 & I don't know a single person who has bought any apart from times in a parabolic move in a bull run & then they stopped & not bought since. For sure bitcoin is more widely known & there's more people holding it since then but the growth is tiny, nothting like the growth spurt of the 1990’s internet the maxi's would have us believe was going to happen.


I am educated in this, been in it over seven years & done a lot of learning. Just because you believe in something doesn't mean it will happen & bitcoin cannot succeed without more adoption, that is a fundamental fact & we haven't been getting new adoption so to keep saying "we are early" is just denying that fact. Everybody knows about bitcoin, it is over $1 trillion marketcap but it hss stalled in user growth. You can sit there and tell people to educate themselves but some educated people are beginning to ask if we might have peaked & it's a very reasonable question. It's the same influencers on the conference circuit, on the podcasts etc telling us the same things we heard 5, 6, 7 years ago. If we don't hit $100k (expectations are far higher prices) this bull run what will the reasons be?


I think bitcoin being a widely used medium of exchange is a dream,  just as the idea that bitcoin would replace banks  was a dream that I heard repeatedly when I first got into bitcoin.


My concernns are more near term. If adoption doesn't grow then a circular economy will never happen, it didn't happen in El Salvador and the people were certainly given the opportunity. The store of value has to incentivise new users to buy & hold & that just isn't happening, people are not coming in despite what many maxi's will have us believe. The arguments for being early are over, we are past being early everyone knows about bitcoin it's even on the stock market. I wonder whether we might have reached the end in terms of mass adoption.


Thank you Jeff 🙏


Jeff, I have genuine concerns that I hope you can answer. I first bought bitcoin in 2017 & wonder how many years can we be "early" as this is something that bitcoiners have been saying for years. Back in 2020 I remember talk of bitcoin adoption being equal to the rate of internet adoption in 1995. I have heard "gradually, then suddenly" since I first got into bitcoin. Blackrock has bitcoin now.. You can hold bitcoin ETF's in your IRA. Bitcoin is legal tender in El Salvador but even the president said adoption there has failed. At what point do we consider that bitcoin adoption might have peaked & that even $100k bitcoin could be years away? Would love hear your thoughts.


Women's league, both teams are in the same division. He forgot to mention that bit


Ah, the women's league and both teams are in the same division. That's a bit different from the men's teams, by a lot.


"there's been a lot more influencer noise and less actionable content"

This goes for bitcoin too. Talk of "suddenly then gradually" for years & "we are very early".  Back in 2020 I remember talk of bitcoin adoption being similar to internet adoption in 1995 but realistically there has been little meaningful adoption since then, there's no way that bitcoin will take on adoption the way the internet did it's just a dream. I recently got back on Primal after staying away for a while because it's essentially just a place for bitcoiners & their influencers (no-one else really uses it) to keep their convictions up. Oh well 🤷♂


Yes, a noticeable change from the "Nostr will become the standard" talk he has used previously.


That's because it's all about belief. Many christians believe fervently that Jesus will return to earth soon. This belief has lasted over 2,000 years. You believe or you don't. I'm not sure you can convince yourself to believe in something that you inherently don't believe in & that's ok.


Alby is a big pain the ass on my browser. I had to disable it. Going to remove it completely.


It's been "super early" for years though. In 2020 we were being told bitcoin adoption is the equivalent of internet adoption in 1995. I've been a bitcoiner for over 7yrs so I'm not a newbie butI dont see anything that truly suggests big adoption numbers.  Unless something changes I suspect in 10yrs  we will still be hearing "it's super early".  Sorry for the cynicism but that's how it looks to me. I'd love to be convinced I'm wrong.


Maybe, but for years I've heard "gradually then suddenly" in regards to bitcoin & that still hasn't happened. I'm feeling a little skeptical tbh.


Meh. If you're going down that (silly) route you may as well say no, it's thanks to the company who made the servers & whoever provides the Internet access. If someone hadn't uploaded the file wouldn't be available on nostr, that's the point. 🙄


Defund the politicians 👍


Are you saying the gov't is going to somehow  acquire every US bitcoiners holdings?


Northern lassies, up where I'm from. Just as concerning as the price of the ice creams is that they mention they come with chewing gum. Nasty! I'll stick to the good old 99's 👍

https://m.primal.net/IHPS.png


Democrats are condescending to anybody that doesn't vote the same as them. It's disgusting, particularly as they pretend to be the inclusive ones.


It's sooo fiat 💰


Or,  You are now verified as being decadent.


You're going to be years ahead of most people. Best advice I can give is to dollar cost average, buy it every week and just hold it. It's going to suck big time when the price drops but keep buying & keep holding, it will go up again 👍


I was a long distance runner for years, could never run on a treadmill. I would run outside through entire Boston  winters regardless of temps except when impossible after major snowstorms. On Sundays I'd do 10 or 12 or 14 miles, loved it. Outside is awesome but not in the hot sticky summer so I would just not run at all for three months cos I just can't stand those treadmills!


Exercise has always been recommended to lift people up, it's nothing new.  Next time you hear someone who is contemplating suicide because of their severe depression make sure to tell them to do do an hour of cardio & they'll be fine.


But that's schizophrenia, you were talking about depression. My fathers brother had schizophrenia, he died a homeless drug addict on the streets of Liverpool. My father had severe depression.


Ordinary misery, or "feeling down", is not the same as clinical depression.


Yeah absolutely. A lot of people who have never experienced severe depression cannot really understand how it can affect someone.


Hodl, people with depression sometimes kill themselves. Depression can be extremely debilitating, telling them to go exercise & it'll fix them is just showing your ignorance about mental health.


The arrogance 🤦♂


That's not the point. She's saying the gov't can't just keep taxing so they print because it's easier to get away with it. It's not about which is worse.


Yeah she said "Currency debasement has been occurring since the adoption of coinage"


Black or white is the question. My answer is black for sure


Have you seen the Nostr ostriches around here Walker? How do pronounce ostrich?

https://m.primal.net/ICrs.png


"took away open-source software ftom coldcard...." They wrote that software ffs, & its still there for you to look at. "Enforced by the state"  so dumb 😂😂


Other than it's a zine that started a long time ago about hacking phone lines I can' t tell you much. I've known about it for years & immediately thought to post this particular photo as a reply to Jack. As for his post, I'm unsure of the real intent but he zapped me very generously so I guess my reply was on point.


Ha! That's a great idea 👍


Hey Marty, I recently finished a book about the cryptography wars by Steven Levy called Crypto, a great read. Pretty much throughout the book the NSA fought the cryptographers who were building privacy tools for the public & the NSA pretty much lost every fight. I have also been reminded of those fights with the recent crackdowns on bitcoin.


Or care. Most will use whatever is convenient & what is popular. The same people if they ever acquire bitcoin will not take self-custody either. The notion that millions of people will flood to Nostr because Twitter, FB, TikTok etc are spying & selling user data is purely wishful thinking imo.


Yeah I'm well acquainted with mental health issues myself & spent 10 years on medication. I still think it's a good idea to lower your presence at times but he can do whatever he wants, just hope he doesn't regret this too.


When we get to your prediction of $300k from 4yrs ago I'll consider $1 million realistic 😉


Seems like his episodes are continuing albeit in a different manner. Besides there was a string of outbursts of yelling & swearing not just one. I stopped listening to any interviews he was a part of.  Mental health issues are real, he would be wise to just keep away from posting on Twitter I think.


$1 million this cycle is certainly optimistic. Not sure about realistic though!


Cast iron 👍


It works with Ublock Origin, which imo is the most effective adblocker.


A lot of people still wear them here in Portland & it's really quite annoying.


"FFS - get HODLs cock out of your mouth!"

This is why you got Yawn as a reply to your earlier comment. Really low IQ stuff, dumb, thoughtless & boring 🙄


Ffs calm down. There were lots of peeps that used to rag on the Samurai team for a long time & all Hodl has done is point out that some of those people are supporting Samurai on this government closure and the arrests. Go take your medicine or go for walk & chill the fuck out.


Let me know if you think Lyn's remarks on financial privacy vs money laundering are a hot take

https://primal.net/e/note1mc36qeww634g6gqt937l50mhals4nszda3uaq07mg34a22cxym5qcealw0


Dunno about that, I don't see bankers getting arrested for helping their billionaire clients improve their financial privacy


Do you remember the Panama papers? Are you aware of how the truly rich launder their money? It's all through the banks and the banks at the very most are given a slap on the wrist, no arrests of managenent, no prison sentences. The real reason the govt are after Samaurai is because it's bitcoin which is not under their control. Privacy isn't illegal though you are probably the sort to say "I have nothing to hide" and welcome any & all government surveillance  they impose on us.

https://primal.net/e/note1p86g2dwg0z3qs6rx49lmv7epr53r42uy92g85ug35l0f6zyes32syz87sf


Yeah I can agree with you on that.


It's about Whirlpool, their coinjoing feature


Damn. No doubt those charges are wildly trumped up but it was inevitable the gov't was going to go after them at some point. I imagine they have a hefty amount saved up for legal fees ready for something like this, they must know that they would be targeted.


Not a lot of difference between them, just details. Both support big wars, mass surveillance, they cater to lobbyists & are most concerned about their political careers. I'll vote local in November but that's as far as it goes


Yes the white paper does say that but in practical terms that's just not the case. If it was we'd use it that way but it's not possible. Obviously it can never be done on the base layer so until a Layer 2 solution is built that allows for large scale transactions to work fast & easily it won't be used as digital cash equivalent to fiat. It will be years if not decades before that happens, if it ever does. That's why in countries that have weak currencies & high inflation people use stablecoins, they are more equivalent to using cash than bitcoin.


Travel memoir in the works!


It kinda isn't used as money though. Until a Layer 2 (or 3 or 4...) solution is created that actually works it won't be used as money & will remain as digital gold used for saving. What percentage of people who own bitcoin use it as money?


Why? Would that graphic be better if you knew a human had created it?


Control of the network.


Marty Bent has a podcast on this subject today with the title Bitcoin Mining Pools are Critically Centralized. His guest is a well known bitcoin developer. I haven't listened to it yet but it's in my dowloads. Here it is if you want to check it out:

https://primal.net/e/note1ntrlr3ueex53qdeg3wzyghfwz2rsj38kgk5lh33nsk4nfdl6spusnnafty


Yeah but you thought it was going to $300k a few years ago so she shouldn't take any notice of your predictions, we haven't even hit $75k 😂


You can be both 👍


So that's it? Money alone dictates whether you are succesful or not? What about if you are doing important or meaningful things but don't have a lot of money?


I don't see how a future will be built on bitcoin if these big companies amass huge amounts of it.  I expect Blackrock will have over 1 million fairly soon and there's all the other ETF providers too, and MSTR who will never sell. I have been buying btc for seven years and for savings it has been great but the idea of the future built on bitcoin is just idealistic. On top of that a workable layer 2 to allow bitcoin to be used as payments for everyone is not even close to reality & if it does happen howany btc will be available after all the big companies have stacked & won't sell? It is scarce & it will increase in value but I don't see any future built on it tbh, it's a digital version of gold.


I've used Umbrel on a Pi for a few years and its a nightmare. Granted I haven't upgraded to the brand new Umbrel release but they released it without Wifi capability & besides upgrading Umbrel is always 50/50 on whether it will break everything & I was fed up of it happening. On top of that adding apps is a dice roll too. I resorted to using Bitcoin core & Electrum only so I can run a node and that's all.

I'm going to buy a used Optiplex or probably a new mini pc & install Start 9, it's much more stable, it might have less apps but stability is FAR more important.


I hate Telegram. Use it only for some groups never one on one chat. If I had my way we'd go back to IRC rather than use Telegram for groups.


I reserved mine last year while they were still in the design/building stage. I believe it's around three weeks at the moment but you should shoot them an email to confirm. They also have an active Telegram group where you could ask  https://t.me/coldcard


His business is selling gold so it makes sense for him to publicly push gold. I can't imagine he doesn't have any bitcoin though. He trash talks it but he knows the value in it too.


You have to reserve it & once it's available you get notified & then pay for shipping. I received mine yesterday.

https://store.coinkite.com/store/cc-q1


And of course everyone on X has a credit card already so it makes sense to use them. I bet less than 5% of X users have bitcoin, 10% at most.


It's an odd post. If he's serious it's a terrible take. If he's trying to be funny he failed miserably. If he's being controversial it just makes him look dumb. I mean what rational person would seriously call for nuking a country? Maybe he had a few drinks & he can blame the alcohol. 🤷♂


I deleted my Twitter account before Elon bought it. Way ahead of the curve.


He asked why Argentinians aren't "using" bitcoin. That's different from saving in bitcoin.  Argentinians use stablecoins more than they use bitcoin because it's a lot more practical. Bitcoin hasn't scaled enough to use as a medium of exchange but it's great for saving. Stable coins are used far more often for day to day useage than bitcoin & until a scalable working Layer 2 solution is created it will remain that way.


I also bought a replacement antenna for my Heltec to help reach nodes better than the stock antenna. Can't remember the cost but somewhere between $10-$20 on Digikey. Apparently antennas on Amazon or Aliexpress are not always what they claim to be so best to purchase from a reputable outlet specializing in electronics etc


Getting up higher in the city definitely got my device to reach more nodes. Here is an article from the Meshtastic site on increasing the range which discusses line of sight & how elevation is important to increase the range

https://meshabout.com/increase-meshtastic-node-range-maximum-distance/


Sure it has enough support for now but if it's just a small subset of bitcoiners & no user growth then funding for that development is likely to shrink. This is why people like Jack want ideas to get more users onto Nostr and he has some experience in the area of social media/networks. You don't care but those who want this to grow do care.


Thing is it's a very small & narrow set of users, it's almost exclusively bitcoiners & without a growing userbase it will have limited development.


You use an app on your phone via bluetooth. Meshtastic has Android & iOS apps that you control the device. You also use the app to type messages and then send them via the device so it's all dependent on Bluetooth & radio not cellular


I've been using Meshtastic for a few months. Line of sight is critical to it's useage so hills, buildings can block transmissions easily.


Line of sight is very important with it so hills will hamper/block transmissions.


You need to change banks, or better still open an account with  a credit union they are so much better.


Nope, never will. I even have an ex-gf who refuses to accept that the lab leak is the most likely explanation for how it started & clings onto the unbelievable story of it coming from a market in the VERY SAME city as the lab that was doing experiments on this exact type of virus. She once sent a NTY article that supported the market heory & debunked the lab leak to her brother & told him he was an asshole for being a conspiracy theorist because he said the virus came from the lab. I've blocked her from contacting me 🤷♂


"Stay humble" isn't one of Hodl's most often used phrases 😂


Irrelevant to the topic. Jack is asking what can get normies to use Nostr & censorship reasons have already been ruled out as most people are not concerned by it.


Yeah I'm one of them. Zaps are cool I'm glad the exist but they are not something that are going to entice many people to get onto Nostr. The idea of zaps/micropayemts for articles online is something I really support but tbh zapping Nostr posts all the time just isnt going to excite people enough to stay here because after a few times it's kinda just meh 🤷♂


No. People are not going to leave Twitter for Nostr unless there is something very compelling. A nice UX & simplicity isn't enough they want something different, something special not the same thing that just looks a little nicer & easier to use. Being a Twitter replacement isn't enough, Jack is absolutely correct.


Yeah well in Britain when you ask someone "Hey, what's up?" you are asking them "what's the matter?" or "what's wrong?".  I'm English living in the US


Did you listen to RHR? Matt totally left out accusing Saylor of saying he'd "crush" any of the ETF's. He did acknlowedge that he "could have handled it better" so obviously he knows he's in the wrong on this saga. But you can be his fanboy if you want.


Unfortunately it's true & it's ironic coming from someone who likes to tell people to stay humble.


Right, it's as if Italians who have been eating pasta for centuries must be some of the sickest people in the world. These meat maxi's are ridiculous 🙄


Read this article then

https://protos.com/did-michael-saylor-pay-bitcoin-developers-to-stop-working/


He isn't, stop simping. He's making accusations without evidence & from what others who have more info on the situation (Samson Mow) Odell's claims are overblown.


He bought around 10,000 btc before Microstrategy started buying it. He said a while ago that he personally owns about 18,000 btc.


I didn't say Microstrategy. He has his own stash. If you can prove that he doesn't personally self-custody any bitcoin at all or own any wallets then I might believe he doesn't run a node.


He buys bitcoin &  stores bitcoin, do you seriously think he uses other people's nodes? 🙄


"I’ve made a lot of wrong bull calls that haven’t been proven right… yet. But they will be eventually."  They won't be considered right to Peter McCormack, pretty sure he won't be giving you back the bitcoin you lost to him!


It's not a good idea to make a habit of accusations in public without evidence. You did this in January with Swan too. Saylor has very good reasons for wanting bitcoin to thrive & his views on what needs to happen to bitcoin might differ from yours and going out & publicly accusing him of things when you don't know what his motives are isn't a particularly good move. You are passionate about bitcoin & open source which I totally respect but these public accusations are not going to look good on you if you keep making them.


He did the same in January with accusations against Swan Bitcoin. It's not a good look for Matt & he needs to cut it out or he'll have very few peopke wanting to work with him in the future.


Meh. There's NO way Saylor would say he'd crush any of them, nor could he crush them. I don't doubt he talked to them, maybe convinced them to chsnge their minds but this accusation sounds BS to me.


Unfortunately a lot of devices are out of stock and have been for a couple of months but apparently will be back in the second half of April. Average Gary's recommendation of the Heltec is good though, I have one. A good channel for Meshtastic stuff on Youtube is Ringway Manchester & another is Andy Kirby. 👍


Damn, I thought I was going to see a bunch of hippos having bathtime 😱


Alby wallet 👍


This is an example of what normies won't deal with. They want Twitter to give them their password if they lose it. They look at someone like you who lost your Nostr keys and think if you can do it so can they. It's the same with self-custody bitcoin, most normies are not going to do it, they will let Coinbase or JP Morgan do it for them despite what some maxi's believe because the risk is too much for them to cope with.


A passphrase can be safely stored in a Password Manager.


I deleted my Twitter account before Elon bought it but the simplicity of Twitter is what most people want, there's no way they are going to replace something they use with something more complicated if the end result is just the same i.e. shit posting on social media.


Because Nostr is messed up. Anyone (Nostr maxi's) who think Nostr is going to replace Twitter are in fairyland. As long as users have to deal with relays it won't get any more than a tiny fraction of the number of Twitter users ever. Currently a debate on here is whether small relays are better than large relays. It's ridiculous.


Scammer


Ya need to change your cereal & you'll be golden. Homemade granola is the way to go & it's about as easy as it gets 👍


The conferences are all the same people talking all the same things anyway. I'd rather stack sats than pay for a ticket, flight, & hotels when I can get all that info for free with the videos they release (or I've already heard it before). That's my cynical take on bitcoin conferences!


I've been skeptical of the hyperbitcoinization story for a long time, it's similar to the idea that bitcoin will destroy the banks story that was popular when I first got into bitcoin. Banks are far too powerful to be destroyed by bitcoin, they might adopt it somehow, or custody it, or sell it but they will never be destroyed or replaced by bitcoin.


IRC 👍


Yeah I had Wallet of Satoshi orginally & they closed down then something weird happened with my Alby wallet & my sats disappeared.  Primal wallet doesn't seem to work so I've not been interested in setting up another wallet for Nostr.  Fortunately my Coldcards & Sparrow work great! Thanks though 👍


milk > cream


He's referring to ordinals & other non-bitcoin things being added onto the blockchain. Some people are very upset with it & consider it to be degrading. Others feel it's nothing to be concerned about.


Thanks Guy, I must have misunderstood your post. I'm excited for AI & am on the side of the accelerationistst & envision a far better world in the future, we just have to battle the doomsayers (& politicians) in the meantime. 👍


Not necessarily. I think Guy is being overly pessimistic on this. It's similar to the "AI is going to kill all humans" cowd talk, far too gloomy. Humans have a tendency to fear new/unfamiliar technologies & sometimes think the worst.  I'd say governments with their goddamn censorship laws are more of a threat to the internet than anything else right now. P.S. I'm a big Guy Swann fan by the way! 👍


It's definitely not Bedford!


That depends entirely on where you are from. Of course those from down south assume that their accent is the only true English accent but up north where I come from parse & pass don't sound the same at all. You could still use an English accent but a Yorkshire one instead of American & get the same result. 👍


Fyi, it's St Paddy not St Patty.


I hate Telegram, I have no idea why it's popular.  Bring back IRC, it's far better.


I like the calls for social media companies to open up their algo's. Fire can be used for good, it can also be used as a weapon. Same with algo's, they are not inherently good or bad they are whatever the coders have programned them to be.


Jfc he's STILL at it? I assumed he gave up & realized his huge mistake a long time ago. Not that bitcoiners would welcome him back with open arms but he could acknowledge he was wrong. In hindsight the blocksize war was a good thing to have happened when it did, but damn that guy is stubborn.


Tuur Demeester - The Bard of Bruges 👍


Yeah there seems to be a sense of urgency on this issue  recently. Odell put out a warning of sorts on the latest episode of RHR.


Yes this is puzzling because afaik there was only one method for dice rolls with a Coldcard and apparently there are two. 🤔


He wasn't suggesting you have to use Coldcard just talking about a feature it has. Besides Foundation copied the Coldcard code & used it to make their own wallet so they are the same, although I would never buy Foundation on principle.


My wallet of choice is the Coldcard paired with Sparrow wallet on my laptop for transactions. I think most decent hardware wallets will allow a passphrase but imo Coldcard is the best.


For a small amount of money a seed phrase is usually be secure enough if you make sure nobody has access to it. For a larger amount you can add a passphrase on top which makes the seedphrase useless if someone has accees to the list of words but not the passphrase. For even larger amounts multi-sig wallets such as 3 of 5 or 5 of 7 work but with the added security comes added complexity.


How long had Coldcard had two dice modes? Is this recent with the new Q version because I only was aware of one mode with 100+ rolls recommended.


Yikes! Turns out Clem, who is French, lives or did live in Ireland. My bad! I was a Mint user for a long time but had no idea about an Ireland connection. I just think of Clem as being from France & Mint as being from the internet!


I have. 👍


I recently found him here on Nostr. I follow & listen to loads of podcasts & not one of them posts the same episode 20 times but I guess he's desperate for someone to listen to him. 🤷♂


Stesm room for sure 👍


The pace of innovation has increased so much from those days then even someone as informed as he was probably can't predict even 25 yrs from now. I'd love to see the changes in 50yrs but I won't be around then


FFs! Stop posting this shit or I'll just unfollow you. Like a goddamn spammer. It's fucking annoying.


50 years ago.
https://m.primal.net/HlbT.mp4


Linux Mint isn't Irish. Not sure where you got that from. Its creator Clement Lefebvre is French but Mint isn't French or Irish.


I deleted my account before Elon bought it. I used Nitter to checksome accounts after that  but Elon has blocked every access to the site apart rom those with accounts so there's no way for me to see anything now. It's a shame but  I'm not going back & it's been a couple of years I prefer life with less social media anyway.


Don't remember ever hearing that song before,  sounds very dated.


Lol! Using your phone is uneccesasy. How much electricity do you use charging it? How much battery usage is wasted on you scrolling through pointless shit on your phone? What do you do with the phone when you replace it, is it 100% recycled?


Just embarrassing. Who tf votes for these people?


I like the word retarded. I also like imbecile, moron, and fuckwit 👍


Not going to happen.


Transactions were essentially free for the first few years but  miners didn't have to fork out tens of thousands for mining equipment & electricity & they need to get paid. Maybe you weren't around but I remember the huge fee spikes in 2017 due to the number of people transacting & high fees will be a reality with wider adoption so get used to it. Layer 2 solutions are being worked on. Stop complaining or go find a shitcoin that gives fast free tx's, they are out there.


It hasn't clogged bitcoin. You are hung up on something that isn't an issue.13sats/byte right now. Chill out.


14 sats/byte right now & in the beginning of a bull run. No problems.


So the moral of this story is to act with haste. Got it.


Sounds confusing. If you keep your wallet offline and you use it to create transactions what is the purpose of another device? All you need is the mk4, a micro sd card & a laptop. I have no idea what you would need a Raspberry Pi for.


Which is a good reason not to run a node really. I ran one very briefly until I learned of the risk.


As soon as this court case is over he'll be gone & our memories of him will fade away. Things will be so much better 👍


But yeah I agree with you


There was a time when one bitcoin was worth the same as one sat is worth today


Make sure you have a no photo policy for it, wouldn't want to upset anyone 😂


Why don't you let the user choose the cache limit? I have no interest in holding 1gb of Nostr  & videos all the time & don't know why you think everyone would. I can't imagine what it would be like if every app forced us to carry a gb of cache. At least I can use Primal but I like Amethyst too.


The cache issue remains with Amethyst. I can never clear it out. It was at 1.5gb & clearing it leaves it at .95gb and it will never go less than that. It makes no sense to carry almost a gig of cache constantly on an app like this. Primal empties down to 0.


I've been using Primal as my main Nostr driver recently but it takes sooo long to refresh. Is this just happening to me or is this a known issue?


Yup, it's going to be ten for me later this year. 👍


Better sleep for sure


I guess it depends if they have arrested a suspect. If they have I'm sure the threat of jail will encourage the surrender of keys. Goddamn governments.


Yes to both. My gym has both but I much prefer the steam room. Whenever I go in the sauna I always feel like I'm waiting for something that never happens 😂


Steam room > sauna 👍


You call them criminals but they haven't been convicted. Could be totally innocent too


Stay at home if you want privacy.


You lose an element of privacy when you choose to be out in public places. You can be annonymous but you can't be private.


Absolutely! 👍


Photography & surveillance are not the same. You can argue that point if you want but it's a dumb argument. A photojournalist covering a public event or some small news story has no obligation to ask you for permission to print/ publish a photo that includes you. The fact you've put an appearance in public makes you part of the public domain. Now surveillance is very differrent & that's where your comment "nobody cares about what's legal" makes no sense because people do care & there are laws that seperate photograohy from surveillance. If you want privacy in public you will have to make efforts to make yourrself unrecognizable, it's on you to stay private in public places, we don't have to ask your permission.


Yeah exactly.


Complaining about instawhores at upscale resorts is hilarious. Maybe resorts aren't your thing. I've never been to one in my life but my idea of traveling is pretty much runs counter to what resorts offer. Not much sympathy here, sorry not sorry 😂


I didn't ask if you are betting man, I couldn't care less tbh.


I remember the last one!  You don't have to apologize for being bullish Hodl but at some point you also have to be rational. Dude I'm bullish too I just try to stay grounded, there's a point where exuberance gets the better of people & it's why Peter was able to take half a bitcoin off you! 😂 But I hope your predictions turn out to be true 👍


Bern stacking for 7yrs mate, just pointing out that people tend to stop being humble & lose their shit when a bullrun starts. Go ahead and make your million dollar predictions if it makes you feel good.


$300k last bullrun!!


Everytime a bitcoin bullrun starts peeps get totally carried away with their predictions. I remember the $300k predictions from the last bullrun & we're still not even close to that & now there's $1 milly predictions for this run. Good grief 🤦♂


It's a great word and it's a perfectly appropriate label for many people. I've become more fond of it the more it offends people, usually retards.


Nah. The more people learn about CBDC's the greater the pushback will be. There will be some people in positions of power that want them but the majority of the public won't and many politicians are already positioning themselves against them. Just as we have fought to have bitcoin accepted we will fight against any introduction of CBDC's.


Reddit never locks me out because of my VPN. I used to have that issue with my bank though & it was infuriating. I called them & was told to change my username & see if that worked. Wtf? I'd been with the bank for years before thevproblem started but I changed my username & problem solved. Weird 🤷♂


Yeah exactly 👍


I watched this the other day.I had no idea it existed. Ringway Manchester's channel is great, been a subscriber for a couple of years, I'm loving the Meshtastic stuff 👍


She will never support bitcoin. Her goal is for the government to replace the comnercial banking system with government run banks. Bitcoin is completely contrary to how she wants the monetary system to be.


He's a pathological liar. I'm looking forward to the end of the trial & finding out what the judge has to say about him.


They walked on over? Or he walked on over? 🤔


You still need a phone number to sign up though


I remember all the excitement and absolute conviction bitcoiners had at the start of the last bull run. I'm gonna stay far more grounded. I thought for sure $150k last run. This time I'm staying way more grounded in my price predictions than a lot of others that I'm seeing.


Sure, but gold wasn't at $50,000. Saying anything can go up 10x in price because it has before, or something else has is missing the point. For example going fron $1 to $10 is easy because it's a small amount of money & people can easily push it to happen, it's a difference of $9. $50,000 to $500,000 is a difference of $450,000, it's not going to happen as quickly. As the price increases the speed of it will decrease.


Will be used as a reason to send more money to Ukraine unfortunately


Most of those who want to ban or limit guns will look at your sticker and just think you're a dickhead, a) for being a gun freak and b) for putting a gun related sticker on your car. I wouldn't put a bitcoin sticker on my car either.


Is Fold anygood these days? I dropped it about 18 months ago as it had become next to worthless, at least compared to how it had been.


Yeah, I can't get passed all her conspiracy noise. Not saying none of it's true but it's all she has.


Yes! 😂😂


I have a '98 Corolla I bought for $450 in 2015. Still driving it 👍


The people who are attacking Carlson for his interview with Putin would have been fine with a CNN interview though. An entirely different spin by the media would have been put on it allowing those who oppose Carlson's interview to accept CNN's, maybe even those fools who still belive Putin posted fake posts on Facebook to help Trump beat Hillary. (Honestly, people who still believe that are so gullible they'll believe anything their chosen media sources tells them)


If you are on Android you use the NewPipe app from FDroid. On desktop use Ublock Origin in a browser. Fuck paying Youtube.


Lol! Oh ok America good, Russia bad. If Obama put someone in jail its cool. Got you 👍


Look what Obama did to Assange.


Right, as you say that's just a guess. I would say that any news organization that wants to interview Putin is probably going to get large numbers of people wanting to view it. It's enough just to get a Yes from Putin for an interview so anyone asking for the interview is unlikely to put that in jeapordy by putting restrctions on him such as where the it can take place. Maybe they would but it doesn't make a lot of sense.


CNN said they've been trying to interview Putin too. Apparently quite a few news organizations have & they are not all right-wing, it's just that Carlson got it so he's being attacked.


Why even make a video? Should have just done audio & not have to wrap a sheet around his head.


Something I'm certain about is humans have very powerful imaginations.


There's a difference between journalism & opinion pieces.


Last year we were told lots of regional banks would fail after SVB & those other three banks failed but none have. And for several years there's been dire warnings of economic collapse that haven't materialized. Loads of prediction in 2022 that in Q3 or Q4 we'd have a recession & then those predictions were pushed back to 2023 & now very few predictions on when a recession will occur. I used to listen to all that stuff & assume these thing would happen. Now I just ignore it all.


Ok that makes sense. It's just the impression I've got from some people is that it's all over for him if he loses this case, there seems to be more excitement about this case than is necessary if he can just continue his bullshit if he loses. At some point even he must think going into court with forged documents, lying, & constantly losing cases is tiresome. Takes a particular type of personality to keep doing that.


If he loses this court case in the UK is he still able to attack bitcoin devs elsewhere or is this effectively the end for him? With his billionaire backer he seems to have plenty of money to fund lots of lawsuits


Totally agree. Maxis who think everyone will custody their own keys are living in a fantasy land. Most people are just not going want that kind of responsibility & I totally understand that.


The NSA tried to stop encryption being used in the US, then after losing that battle they tried to stop open source encryption from being used outside the US. Difference now is it's governments vs corporations. What we need is a whole lot more open source stuff instead of a few massive corporations running everything. I agree about all these autocratic governments but I am also optimistic that we will win in the future.


No it was this from December 2023.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/urbit-is-the-new-internet-w-christian-langalis/id1618973677?i=1000637784347


The last I saw was "hoping for Q1 2024”.


Yes, but not released yet.


A used Optiplex micro works great


I heard him interviewed on a podcast within the last couple of months.


Nice. Fake accounts just like Twitter. 🙄


Brexit was a great move. Going to be rough for a while but the UK will be far better off eventually. I expect other nations will try to exit the EU in the coming decade.


Why would she (potentially) alienate millions of her fans by announcing who she is voting for?


Yeah I have to say it's pretty lame. Not sure why someone has so much interest in this stuff and child porn deep fakes. I really don't see the point of posting it, I imagine most people here have little to no interest in Talyor Swift deepfake porn pics. Celebraties have to deal with resl life papparazzi which I imagine is a fucking nightmare and now there's this dumb shit.


Last paragraph of the article:

For users uncomfortable with this, there are other X/Twitter alternatives available, such as Mastodon, Threads, and Bluesky, but this involves switching to another social network."

No mention of Nostr 🤷♂


Lol! That's like saying stretching is a scam. I don't do yoga but yoga isn't a scam anymore than stretching, or running, or swimming.


Yeah its all smoke & mirrors. Wyden might mean what he says but nobody believes the NSA are going to give up their data, & even if the did they will get it again in some other way. That's what they do & nothing will ever stop them.


So its not real therefore zero restrictions on it . No age limits either? Is that what you are suggesting?


Cheaper than Verizon and more reliable than AT&T


T-Mobile recently changed & raised prices on all their plans. I've been a customer over 20yrs so wasn't happy when I saw the announcement that my plan would be eliminated & I'd be paying $10 more per month. I called them & fortunately as I've been with them so long they are keeping me on my original plan. Pretty sure none of this stuff would be happening if their former CEO John Legere was still there.


Silent Link says in the FAQ that they don't do outgoing calls & sms to prevent spam, which I see as reasonable.


Looks really good, I'll have to boomark this. Just hope people read everything and understand that getting a phone number doesn't mean you can make phone calls, you can get incoming calls only.


Roofers are often left out. That work is brutal, they deserve more respect. I've had plenty of arguments with people who go on about robots taking all the jobs but they will never replace all the trades, just won't happen. A robot will never be painting your living room, ever!


Do you think it should be illegal to generate child porn?


Interesting because Amethyst wouldn't let me vote, it just flashed up a row of zap icons with different amounts of sats to send.


Hey Nico I was listening to the opening few mins of the podcast when you are talking about banks charging fees for accounts with amounts under a certain figure. It reminded me of an old Louis CK bit about being broke & dealing with his bank. This is an absolute classic piece of comedy & so very true too. If you haven't seen it you should watch it, it's really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrMqs9K1n5o


With our leaders we certainly seem to settle for a lot less but yeah I agree with what you are saying.


That might be too complex for Hodl


That's the wrong way to think about people (and maybe a bit arrogant Hodl). Just because a person has a low IQ doesn't mean they aren't good people though. There's a LOT of very intelligent people in this world who are dangerous to large populations, such as many politicians. I care less about somebody's IQ most of the time and more about their character.


Yeah I understand what you're saying Matt & I've been using Nostr over a year now but unless others come onboard its just a niche thing for bitcoiners. I do hope the user base expands though, I really do. 👍


Boring reply 🙄


Integral to the story


This response is accurate though & I really like Nostr & want to see it succeed but as long as Nostr is just used by bitcoiners it won't have a long term future. Social media for bitcoiners is fine, it'll just have a short shelf life.
https://image.nostr.build/21efb3a4830c1f295e9add1509bab01eedea657150fd071abd98c92c31c6584c.jpg#m=image%2Fjpeg&dim=1080x1043&blurhash=%7C57nI0%2529FMyIBV%5BNGtQoz%252oLi_n%25ofoLWVW%3BWVj%3FWBr%3Fs.W%3AjsWVbHWq%7EVV%5BV%40s%3AV%40jaWVkCWVMd%252xujZxaafbbWVR*RPt6niaebaWBWVbHofxtWBaKjZkCoLWVa%7DWCr%40xuj%5Dafs%3AV%5BbHkCbG%252ozRjj%5BWBWBfkkCfk&x=b5aa686331d28ab60fcc629a9a4f298b29936f49179cfbde349409c9d922038c


Oh got ya, but he fought Peter not the law. The song is about being a criminal & fighting the law & ending up in prison so not really the same thing though faketoshi is a scammer & should be in prison too. What a total POS he is.


No, he fought Craig Wright. Also Peter won.


I'm not sure investors in any type of asset take advice from Cramer any more but certainly he has zero influence on anyone holding bitcoin. Seriously, who would sell bitcoin because Cramer suggests it? That's right, no-one. I don'y know why people pay any attention to him tbh.


My concern with Trump becoming orange pilled is it will harden the left's anti-bitcoin stance even more. There's just no way the left are going to adopt bitcoin if Trump starts advocating for it.


Fantastic news Peter, really happy to hear that.  What those two have done  is absolutely disgusting & they need to be stopped.


It's fine to trust Odell but that doesn't mean he is right any more than Shinobi is wrong. So far Nostr hasn't gained any users beyond some bitcoiners & despite Odell regularly saying Nostr will be the standard it won't be if its just a sub-set of bitcoiners using it.


Been using Nostr for a year and not seen any growth outside of bitcoiners at all and it's only a very small number of the total amount of bitcoiners out there. I like Nostr a lot & big supporter of open source but Nostr isn't going to be the standard if only a very tiny fraction of internet users are using it. Regradless of your opinions of Twitter Nostr isn't going to replace it.


Jfc I said "the other dude", the one I originally responded to not you. Your reading comprehension needs some work ffs.


Not me at all. The other dude was. I'm fine with an increase in tx fees. He's the one complaining. Can't wait for $1 million bitcoin but getting pissed off that tx fees won't be 1 sat per byte any longer 🙄


It was $0 in 2009. If you are worried about high costs of bitcoin transactions sell your btc & go with a shitcoin that does it cheaper & stop moaning. 👍


Also Nostr is pretty much a 100% bitcoin user platform. I don't see that changing in any significant way which is a shame.


It's $1.80 right now 😂


Will it? It costs less than $2 right now.


Love the Pink Panther, so cool.


Having bought bitcoin nearly seven years ago I find investing to be very easy now, I just buy it & hodl. It couldn't be easier but I was a wreck at first, had no understanding of the volatility & even sold a little on a price drop. So investing for me is easy now but I could never be a trader, far too emotional for that.


I knew the first three but wasn't sure of the last one, I guessed it was Errol Flynn. 🤷♂


I'm so bullshit today


Wisley. Nice.


He did it to a couple of comedians. Carlos Mencia (sp?) and Dane Cook


I'm not pushing it. It's a nascent technology & there's no way a layer 2 is going to be built immediately that is going to work to your satisfaction. You come across as a spolied ungrateful child with your "This isn't what I signed up for...” & obviously you have no understanding of what the developers are doing & what is required to build scaling technology on bitcoin. All you do is bitch about it. I prefer people like Jack Dorsey, Odell etc that contribute to the development & are encouraging. See ya.


You can't be suggesting that their business plan is based largely on Youtube videos. Good grief. River has significantly more educational content on their site than Swan does. Of course their media is is more prevelant because its used as a form of marketing. All of that stuff is just tools to bring in customers to buy bitcoin. But hey go ahead and believe they are a media company if you want.


I'm not a maxi at all. Also I'm not a misersble troll constantly posting negative comments.


So don't use them. Most bitcoiners advise against using custodial wallets anyway.


He was a bitcoiner from the start, and before you even knew what bitcoin was.


He never changed his position on bitcoin though, he's always been pro-bitcoin.


If you used a credit card it's corporate money


A lot of people in 2016 said he was wrong on bitcoin.


You could always buy a small used PC like a Optiplex micro & install Start9 yourself 👍


I have a small amount of gbtc in a Vanguard IRA. What I am unable to find out is what happens to it now that Vanguard won't allow the ETF's. Do you know what happens to the gbtc that customers have in their accounts? Will it automatically follow the Grayscale ETF even though they won't allow anyone to buy it?  I don't have a significant amount so its not a huge concern but I want to know so I can decide what to do.


No. Everyone can use it but that doesn't mean they will. Centralized tools are popular because they are easy & convenient & that's wgat most people prefer. Just like everyone can self-custody bitcoin a lot of people won't, despite what some hardcore bitcoiners will have you believe. Nostr will never replace Twitter.


Don't trust, verify. Especially a big official announcement that's been posted on Twtter.


At least Elon actually fights back against the government & has a lot more to lose. Matt just posts to his couple of thousand followers on Nostr who are all bitcoiners because no-one else uses it. Elon would be soooo fucked if he was found out to have posted that tweet, I mean in *serious* trouble. It makes zero sense for him to do it though it's funny to think about him doing it.


Better hope no-one gets hold of your private key snd starts posting on Nostr fooling everyone into thinking it's you. Maybe social media, decentralized or not, isn't the place for a lot of official announcents.


I just buy used Thinkpads and install Linux. I like System 76 but feel I get more for my money from a used laptop.


I like the Amethyst UI but damn that cache just grows & grows with no way to to clear it other than clear the Storage completely then restart the app from scratch. Its the only one of my four Nostr clients that won't allow clearing the cache which is currently at just under 1gb and that is ridiculous.


Absolutely. His recent actions are totally personal: supporting Israel because he is Jewish & attacking journalists because they went after his wife. Still, it's been enjoyable watching the Left fight each other 👍


You can easily avoid it by not using the Twitter app & use a browser with an ad blocker instead. It's that simple, or do as I did and just delete your Twitter account. Now if I want to check a post or account I use Nitter. You can't post anything but who cares? 🤷♂


Yeah, the ETF's are going to twist a lot of anti-bitcoin brains & will force them to re-think their views.


They are not a media company first & foremost. Do you really believe most of their revenue comes from their videos & not from selling bitcoin? You can't be that uninformed. Good grief 🙄


Natalie & Stephan are Swan employees


Who is asking Matt about it? Why hasn't he divulged that information? Using his logic we should call bullshit if he refuses to tell us. Besides, Ten31 have no rights to Swan information & Matt  knows this.


Odell certainly has a beef with the Swan CEO but nothing to back up his claims so far, just speculation. I guess this is why Marty hasn't backed him up other than agreeing on s coupke of points on their podcast. As for Max Kesier that guy is losing it as far as I can tell, I can't take him seriously anymore. Matthew Kratter on the other hand is great 👍


Lol! Mr Smarty Pants. Point is that bitcoin, gold etc in retirementt accounts have to be held by custodians while you are contributing according to IRS regulations. I dare say you can withdraw if you are able to & self-custody but be prepared for penalties if the IRS discovers it, & with the new regulations for LLC's having to report to FINCEN (self-directed IRA's require LLC's) every year that is more likely to happen.


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Yeah I'm not advocating bitcoin IRA's just answering a question. Besides, not everyone wants to self-custody and that's just a fact that a lot of bitcoiners don't want to face up to. Some people are not going to take on that kind of responsibility, they'd rather stay with the convenience of fiat & banks and bitcoin ETF's. Convenience is so much easier, it's why most people don't take privacy & security seriously on the internet because that involves effort & responsibility no matter how many times they are told the importance of it.


Well if you are going to have an IRA you may as well have one that's going to give you the best return possible & nothing beats bitcoin. You can always stack stats in your own cold storage and have a Roth IRA to give you tax free retirement money too. When you retire you can withdraw the bitcoin, you just can't self-host while you are contributing.


The IRS rules state that they need to be held by a custodian or they lose IRA status. Choice might say you can self-host if you want but if you get caught it's tough. I dunno.

"Custodians. All self-directed IRA use custodians to hold your assets, and ensure your account adheres to IRS rules. Banks and other financial institutions are custodians for conventional IRAs, while there are specialized crypto custodians for Bitcoin IRAs."

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-ira/


They can't allow self-custody for IRA's. A court case happened some years ago when a woman had gold in her IRA account & she took self-custody of it and the government took her to court and she lost. This is why bitcoin in IRA's have to be held by the companies issuing them & not the individual.


Well Ten31 has no infornation rights & all large investors in Swan do extensive diligence, and they are not concerned with the names of seed funds from early rounds. What do you feel needs to be answered that the investors aren't concerned about?


Sure I agree with that, just make sure when you criticize some that it's valid, not purely on speculation.


Whoa! Going down the conspiracy trail for sure. I mean hats off if your views turn out to be correct but man it's not going to be a good look if you are wrong.


"SBF IS CLEARLY NOT A PERFECT ANALOGY."

Yet you used it anyway. You need to careful with your accusations Matt because if they all fall apart it's not going to be a good look for you.


I have 3 Coldcards. Thank you for your concern


You were the one who brought up me listening to WBD. All I did was respond to someone else who had stated that Swan was a sponsor of the podcast. You brought it up between us. Anyway you really are boring & I'm done with your petty comments so that's all. Goodnight
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I know that. He's also a friend of Peter McCormack & had been on WBD a number of times


I listened to Lyn Alden episode yesterday. She's been on his show more than anyone else. You should let her know about McCormack, I bet she'd be shocked with all your information. Then tell Saylor, Lopp, Odell & the rest of them because you clearly know a lot more than they do.


Been stacking since before WBD even began. Thanks though 👍


Bye


Yeah that's good. It does seem like there's some unecessary FUD in there too that creates some backlash against Swan but if that's part of the game then that's cool 👍


Yeah welk talk to Odell, Marty Bent, Lyn Alden, Preston Pysh, Jameson Lopp, Pierre Rochatd, Parker Lewis, Michael Saylor & all the others who have been on the show multiple times & are friends of his. I'll listen to them anytime over an idiot like you.


Ha! Yeah he does, but he still goes on and they're still friends. McCormack is heading back to Bitcoin Park soon I believe.


Lol! Think before you hit Post you dipshit. 😂😂


Why does Matt have it in for you guys? It's not a good look to keep calling people out for stuff that never happens. Weird. 🤔


I remember it. He didn't scam anyone though you brainless knobhead.


But Cory has called out lots of scams & even some of WBD sponsors like BlockFi. What's wrong with that? I mean you seem to be OK with Odell calling out what he percieves to be scams yet Swan hasn't been found to have ever scammed anyone. Unchained sponsors WBD and they sponsor Odell & Marty's RHR podcast too. Pretty sure Odell is either an investor or advisor to Unchained. According to your logic they are going to rugpull peeps because they are affiliated with WBD. Not a particularly great line of thinking really.


Odell has been on WBD lots of times. He's friends with Peter too.


So all in all a totally dumb post of yours. Cory hasn't been skimming & anyone can use home equity to buy almost anything they want. Ok, got it.


Ffs! Anyone can take home equity & buy bitcoin or anything else for that matter. Once the ETF's are out you'll be able to it with those, big deal 🙄 You accused the CEO of skimming money from it, that's what I was referring to & nothing in that dumb article even suggests it. Making accusations without backing them up is bullshit.


I'm not the one making the claim you absolute genius. You can't back it up because there isn't anything to back up your worthless & empty claim. It's bullshit.


Back that up or I call you for talking bullshit


What did he do?


Most payments in the future will be Layer 2's & 3's  etc & most bitcoin isn't moving at all these days.  We had huge spikes in transaction fees in 2017 and there were no ordinals back then. I think ordinals are stupid but I'm with the likes of Jameson, Odell, Adam Back & others who say don't worry about them. Besides, Luke Dashjr is helping to create a mining pool that rejects ordinals/inscriptions so there will be a way to avoid them.


It's a great show I enjoy it but you really don't need to announce *every* software update.  The show will be 5hrs long soon, no-one will listen 😂


Yeah well the internet was designed just to share information but we do all our shopping on it nowadays & watch movies, play games etc.


Peter is very respectful.


Does Warren know? Obvs the dialog between them in Congress was rehearsed but does she know about JPM & the bitcoin ETF's? It certainly doesn't help her case. Just makes both of them look really fucking stupid tbh.


Feeding pet lizards & iguanas.


Lol! Honestly it would freak me out everytime it happened, it's totally unexpected. Feeding lizards & iguanas crickets & baby mice is horrible, I much prefer having dogs  and cats though I'll have to say having a lizard crawl over you & fall sleep on your chest is super cool.


My ex-gf used to buy them to feed her lizards and iguanas. Fucking annoying when they escape from the lizard tank and frighten the life out of you as they find their way into your bed jump on you.


I have to disagree with you on that. I doubt Lyn Alden & Jameson Lopp give two sh*ts whether I added emoji's to the Likes I just gave them on their posts tbh. To suggest a like is lame without an emoji added to is purely subjective on your part Viktor, I'm certainly not disappointed if someone likes a post/comnent/picture of mine without one, in fact I don't care at all. Emoji's are fun for sure but they really aren't essential to liking what someone has posted. Anyway thanks for the response 👍


Viktor, why am I unable to simply Like a nostr post on Amethyst without having to use an emoji too? Each time I want to Like a post Amethysts forces me to choose an emoji to go along with the Like. None of my other nostr clients do this, nor any other social media app either for that matter. Is there a way to just do a Like without the emoji?


I've just got 100+ Followers that clearly are not real. I should be able to remove them from following me or block them, it's bullshit


Lol! I was thinking exactly the same thing. Who turns on the lights when they go to bed? 😂😂


Does that include those voting just on bitcoin as a single issue. Suppose a pro-bitcoiner was on the ballot in MA in opposition to Warren who had a good chance of beating her would you encourage the voters to vote for that opponent or keep up with the "meh, it won't make a difference"? Isn't part of the bitcoin message one of dismantling the system?


Compared to bitcoin's volatility. People in poor nations can't rely on bitcoin's price which is why stablecoins are more popular in many of them.


We've been told in the past that bitcoin has a faster adoption rate than the internet but if that was true back then - and I don't doubt it - it certainly isn't now, there's no way it's keeping up at that speed. Just like those people who say bitcoin will prevent wars from happening, saying bitcoin will create a boom in childbirth is a dream, it just doesn't make sense. I remember back when people said bitcoin was going to kill the banks but that was never going to happen. Banks are *far* too powerful for that, they'd somehow get in the game if it made financial sense to them but bitcoin will not kill them. Hyperbitcoinization is currently no more than a dream & if it does happen it will be partly due to radically better technology than what we currently have because mass adoption of Lightning is never going to happen, check El Salvador for an example. Bitcoiners still get giddy any time a video of someone buying a coffee with bitcoin is posted online but that isn't growing at any meaningful pace. Also self-custody still  isn't ready for prime time either despite what the maxis say although I think this area is getting better & better, lots of great things happening there. Don't get me wrong I am a bitcoiner and have been stacking for 6+yrs but some of the stories bitcoiners come up with just don't match reality, they are dreams but they are enticing.


Hyperbitcoinization has a religious feel to it. It's not unlike Christians who are convinced that Jesus is comong back to earth. Hyperbitcoinization is a story created by bitcoiners that only bitcoiners believe. Will bitcoiners still believe in the story 50 years from now if it hasn't happened?


Absolutely. I used to DCA with Swan but would wait tiI I had a certain amount before I withdrew. All the maxis that say you need to withdraw immediately aren't telling you the disadvantages of doing that.


Are you unconcerned about this bill Marty? Seems like she's shifting up a gear and getting more peeps on her side. I dunno 🤷♂.


And banks.


@Odell "Dogs are fucking awesome".   Yes they are!

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It will be a low number, less that 20% imo. Most people are just not going to feel comfortable self-custodying their own wealth.


Yeah, it's all subjective. Matt is getting carried away with this stuff & it's not going to look good in the end. Mining pools have their own rules & Matt gets irate about it. NVK has a much more rational view on this imo.


This sounds terrible for bitcoin.


That's not an ETF though, different situation.


Early tests? 🤔 I have reserved mine. Are you still expecting a Q1 release for next year?


That looks beautiful. I've never been to Africa, it must be amazing.


Well you must have done something because your laser eyed profile pic is back up. I just downloaded Preston's latest episode with you, Joe & Steve. Going to listen to that at work today 👍


Almost certainly. I ordered some clothing on Moosejaw recently then got an email later telling me my order was rejected. After talking with a customer rep I was told the most likely reason was my VPN.


Billy Bragg. Total mask-wearing vaxx pushing gov't shill & hevuses terms like "cis gender" & "non-binary" & criticizes JK Rowling for standing up to the trans-rights activists. Utter prick, not that he was a hero of mine but he has completely changed from his anti-authoritarian & anti-government views of his past. Oh, Neil Young too. Jfc, what an absolute twat he'scturned out to be. Fuck him.


If you want big numbers of nodes then you'll have to make it as simple as downloading an app from the app store & running it on your phone. Few people are going to buy a dedicated piece of hardware such as a Raspberry Pi & install Umbrel (or whatever) & wait days for bitcoin core to download and then run it 24/7. Its already a challenge to convince people the need to own bitcoin then tell them that they need to store it themselves on a special hardware device & a metal plate to store the words. There's no way most people are then going to run a node too. Just not going to happen, which of course is why there's on 10k or so nodes running.


Both illegal in the UK


Ok so this is slightly different but I put in an order for the coldcard q on Tuesday, yay! Are you still expecting it released early 2024?


You post a tweet on X 👍


Well the dollar has been the currency for global trade but I'd guess most governments want 100% control of the currency in their country. The Euro is not working out too well.


Won't they be like Microsoft etc and stop all updates after a while though? A 15yr old EV is going to have old software that isn't going to get updates & we should have the right to repair/replace. But yeah, the gov't isn't going to let us.


You promote education to who? Your 8 nostr followers? He has tens of thousands of dowloads for each episode. He interviews some of the most knowledgeable people in bitcoin. Nobody has even heard of you.


He's a bitcoiner. You're an idiot.


Until you close your account you haven't quit Twitter you are just faking it. You still have a Twitter account. You gonna quit it or continue to fake it?


Newpipe on Android is an absolute godsend!


Every side attacking Twitter for disinformation 😂😂


The best kind of friend. Woof! Woof!


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I'm on the older end of the Gen X generation. I think texting is one of the greatest inventions ever. I don't have to talk to anyone on the phone unless it's absolutely necessary, how fantastic is that! Even worse than talking on the phone is video calls. I have one mate of mine always video calls me & gets annoyed when I don't answer. I'm like "why the fuck would I want to look at your big fat head & talk to you on my phone when I can just text you instead". He still does it though. 😂


“War what is it good for? It’s good for business.”

— Billy Bragg


I'm proud to say I have been to exactly zero bitcoin conferences. I have learned everything I know about bitcoin from reading, listening to podcasts, & watching videos. All the money I would have spent on conference tickets, hotels, & airfares has been spent on bitcoin instead. Stay humble, stack sats 👍


Its not showing for me either, using Amethyst.


12-13. We have a long way to go yet. The money printing hasn't even started.


My dog & I have been together 5yrs as of three days ago. We went backing up a mountain two weeks ago, & spent three days on the coast last week hiking and taking long walks on the beach. She's the most loving happy & friendly being I could hope to spend time with. There's a good reason we call dogs man's best friend.

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Come on Matt, this "I'm not a blue check so I am superior to you" doesn't help anyone. It's fine to let others know the risks involved but stop the "I am better than you" stuff. The fact you are still on Twitter is laughable at this point, not sure how you can really justify that other than to say you aren't a blue check. Lets see you quit Twitter if you really mean it, bet you can't.


If it's a common name then the security/border will surely take that into account. I assume your friend doesn't share the same birthdate as the Jan 6th rioter & certainly won't have the same passport number. I don't see why he'd get that much hassle, doesn't make sense esp. with a common name


No, leave him be. Why haven't you quit Twitter yet? You are quick to criticize those who have blue checks but you still have a Twitter account. I quit Twitter last year, lets see you quit.


The irony of his ban is remarkable. The US is one of the few western countries that still uses the death penalty yet a tweet about bringing back the guillotine will cancel you. The woke are absurd.


I believe he tweeted something along the lines "Bring back the guillotine". He wasn't given a warning or suspension, just a permanent ban


After this yawn, which was after a full night of sleep in the box, she went straight back to sleep 😂

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Looks well sketchy


I think about it everyday. I have freinds who entered into the last bull run & bought his first sats at $55k even though I'd told him three years earlier to buy. He hasn't bought a single sat since it hit the top. He brushes off any idea that will go up again but I swear he will buy again when it hits $100k.


If you are asking about potential problems with multisig you are probably going to have them. NVK (Coldcard creater) talks about this. You are much better off creating a Passphrase and keeping it separate from your Seedphrase. This is much safer for average users & if someone has your 24 words they won't be able to access or even see your bitcoin without the Passphrase I store my seedphrase on paper and a metal plate (lots of options available I bought mine from Coinkite) & my Passphrase is digital (& in my head!)


Only with a video clip though. I imagine you'd be less likely to want to share your bit of paradise by having us all there with you 😂


Is there an pdate to any of this yet? I haven't seen anything


He's probably divorced with little to no parental rights to his child.


How would you know? Surely you don't listen to Peter's shows. Or do you? Honestly, you sound rather fixated with Peter, it's weird & doesn't sound healthy


*bring him up


So why did you bring him you fucking idiot? 😂😂


Can you see yourself moving back to NYC at some point?


Just wanted to say that I think Ananostr is a great name and just because @NVK can't say it properly that's no reason to change it 😂


I just set up Zeus on my mobile. Curious what your thoughts are in it & what your preferred Lightning wallet is


That should be a good listen. Btw I cloned my Coldcard Mk3 to a Mk4 yesterday, sooo easy! 👍


Wearing a gun visibly.


But that will backfire because it's going to make Balaji look foolish