Pro/Con of “Privacy” Phone Numbers/Services

JMP.chat
Type: Number
Pro: No KYC VoIP to XMPP (or Matrix) for anonymous Bitcoin, so you're using an open source client
Con: Only US and Canada numbers.  They're just reselling Twillio VoIP, which means that not only are you just paying more just for anonymity, but many services recognize these as Twillio VoIP numbers and will block you.
Solutions: There exists the possibility of buying a real world physical SIM and then transferring over service to JMP VoIP.  But you’re better off using 1 time burner services for most account registry.

Hushed
Type: Number
Pro: No KYC VoIP for Bitcoin, similar to JMP.chat
Con: Uses their proprietary client which isn’t private through the Google Play store.  I’d avoid Hushed.

Silent Link
Type: Number + Service
Pro: No KYC Crypto SIM card that separates billing and identity from the literal cell tower carrier
Con: Uses eSIM which requires Graphene’s Google Push service sandboxed.  No outgoing calls.

Calyx Institute Hotspots
Type: Service
Pro: No KYC WiFi hotspot for Crypto
Con: It’s just reselling T-mobile service, so if you use this in your home and your home is KYC, then T-mobile will likely figure out that it’s you since celltowers see geolocation.
Solutions: You can avoid this by putting the hotspot in a faraday bag, and only using it outside your home.

MySudo
Type: Number
Pro: Multiple burner VoIP lines
Con: Requires Google Play store JUST to PAY for it, but then can be used on a degoogled phone once you add credit.
Solutions: This can be sandboxed or put on a separate old device and you can use bitrefill to buy the credits with cryptocurrency

SMS.usmobilenumbers.com
Type: Number
Pro: Quick easy cheap burner anonymous SMS verification for cryptocurrency.  It’s real SIMs and not VoIP.
Con: US only.  They resell the number for OTHER services, which MAY trigger anti-fraud for SOME services including Zelle, eBay, PayPal, LinkedIn, and others.  So you risk a ban on accounts.
Solutions: Avoid putting money in any account for a few days to see.  Use a residential proxy IP instead of a datacenter VPN, especially for eBay.

VirtualSim.net
Type: Number
Pro: Great for abusing foreign numbers in poor countries such as Cambodia or Ukraine for Signal or Telegram.  Quick easy cheap burner anonymous SMS verification and/or longer term monthly numbers for cryptocurrency.  It’s real SIMs and not VoIP.  Their customer support is excellent and we highly recommend them for Telegram verifications.
Con: They may loose access to the burner number after a period of time (like a year) where you can’t renew and someone else COULD potentially verify the number.

Crypton.sh
Type: Number
Pro: Huge amount of countries for real SMS anonymous crypto.  Get sought after Western European #s here that normally have strict KYC rules on physical SIMs
Con: Overpriced setup fee for 1 time SMS verification, but if you actually live in (or desire) that country it’s okay.  There’s no real purpose in all their “at rest encryption” advertising, because SMS is unencrypted transport.

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I like the idea of having some kind of paper form of Bitcoin somehow, like people's money. Tricky though, how do you confirm it's true on the Blockchain?


OMG!! Great idea!


I feel like the Israel war is just a distraction. Mankind has been fighting wars since day one.
There are more important things going on


You know, this whole CBDC thing can be summed up very simply:
One guy and his pals create however much money they want for themselves.
And they can "turn off" anyone else's money that they want.
Sounds great, right?
As long as you're in the group controlling the money, yeah


I don’t understand the obsession with getting my grandma on nostr.

Products need to start with a very specific and clear target audience. Then build out after we satisfy the needs of that group. If the target is just people who want to do social media, we will most probably fail.

Nostr was born from Bitcoiners, I personally believe we need to continue to serve that group. No shame in that, and nothing is wrong with this goal.

Bitcoiners are people too, and trust me they have interests and hobbies beyond Bitcoin just like everyone else. Continue to serve them, give Bitcoin an application, build tools for Bitcoiners to sell their work.

Others will join.


looks pretty cool


Yo. I've submitted Nostr Connect extension to Firefox . Maybe it will take few day to pass review process. I will look into publish Nostr Connect to Safari too.

https://m.primal.net/HRSR.png


The latest speech from Milei. Powerful stuff. https://video.nostr.build/426f24d9b2667936a62ab50b1b1fc6c8c278b66db938b215f5c9dba68f68f324.mp4


GM… this is hilarious. https://image.nostr.build/2a06da919dca7f159a925c9c70f5fef5d327cd9ad7975df38a525ce8e9f197c5.jpg


True…

“This is why you don’t let children choose their gender”

#LeaveKidsAlone #Woke #LGBTQ+ #FuckFace #2Genders #Science https://video.nostr.build/5d9aa343902c6a5b7034d54570ee6ccb6208aead36b3eaf7346574685464d21b.mp4


lol, that is great!!


Let's test something...

#Bitcoin #Nostr #Free

https://image.nostr.build/483e2abba04dd3ff6d3a8530419e4d6f178f78194f39d1a4d654286cb5a84de4.gif


I see now, I had to make it full screen to see them.

Great speech, love this guy!


I've read some philosophy but not enough to know those 3 branches of the top of my head


english subtitles? I don't speak spanish


“Folks on Twitter said it was going lower!” 💀 nostr:npub1cj8znuztfqkvq89pl8hceph0svvvqk0qay6nydgk9uyq7fhpfsgsqwrz4u https://video.nostr.build/0b5906786000285a11cd1d9ed60078fa2d39c467b1faafa70633d6e2300c4fc9.mp4


The uniparty hates freedom https://image.nostr.build/aa11c80e826987535e8b29623cd58c1fd5251ee12f85f9c850d477afba890aa1.jpg


You know, it's funny, people talk about being the next Elon Musk or Bill Gates as a sign of wealth.
You know who's way wealthier?
Jerome Powell.
Print off another billion for pocket spending if he wants.
There's probably a whole ring of people in the government and fed/banks in on the scam.

The only thing protecting them on this scam is the "confusion" of central banking.

If people only knew...


Whenever a bank blocks me from sending a routine international payment which helps support seven family members in Egypt I'm like:

https://m.primal.net/HRAG.jpg


Every time I try to deal with banks I'm like

https://m.primal.net/HRAH.jpg


yep


There are no laws/regulations/policies (yet) preventing you from buying and holding on to kyc free bitcoin.

Don't miss this golden opportunity to stack privately.


Amen


In my journey to buy 10k of BTC with no KYC, I've found Bitcoin ATMs and Bisq the most useful.
If anyone else has any more tips for me (for Americans) let me know 😄


The whole AML/KYC thing is a total scam.
What it really should be called is:
Your government wants to spy on you


Nikki is working for the uniparty, what a load of crap 😃


Smart guy, damm


It's funny that most people like the idea of having lots of money but don't actually look into it.
The people with the most money or potential money are central bankers (legal counterfeiter in cahoots with the government)
If you want to be really rich and steal the most purchasing power from the economy based on that fiat currency, become a central banker


I love listening to Ramsey but he really doesnt know anything about Bitcoin and probably never will


good points


MSM is irrelevant now.
I know hardly anyone watches it anymore.
Now they just need to get rid of the clips on SM.
No one is listening anyways.


I've been reading "World without Cancer" and it's very funny.
Even a casual acquaintance of cancer in ones family or friends knows that most hospitals and doctors are completely incompetent at curing cancer.
Yet this is the first place people will go for treatment!
😄
Why would anyone go to an incompetent person to get anything done??
The first thing anyone with any concern of cancer would do is to see if anyone had good results treating cancer.
This is so obvious.
Why would you take your car to the repair shop that routinely destroyed the cars brought there to be repaired? And then charged large bills for these "repairs"


I don't think it's on the top 10 list of major world problems.
I just see it as a distraction from the Biden corruption, censorship, ESG agenda, etc., etc


I disagree, I haven't seen that in my life.
But I do think people should buy bitcoin first 😄


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuAFtnhH46U

I'm a fan of telling people about the bad side of ESG


I do live near Detroit (Berkley) but I do my own cleaning. Great to know there are locals on Nostr😃


I was just listening to a podcast episode where they were taking about the cure to cancer being apricot seeds and that this had been discovered in the 1970's. But because of the loss of $ from cancer treatment, it has been suppressed.
It really had been suppressed! I had never heard of this although it makes sense to me that it would have been suppressed.
This is covered by a book by G. Edward Griffin, "World Without Cancer"


Great points well stated


If u see my post, please like it so I get an idea of how many humans are seeing my posts.
Thanks 😃


Whats the least KYC and cheapest ATM in the US?


Not enough lol


What's up bro


San Francisco? A big middle finger to the giants there


OMG!!!! That's huge news for bitcoiners!!


KYC is 1984ish!
I think its oppressive that the US government needs to know so much financial information on its citizens.
Get rid of KWC!


Whats the best way to buy $1000 worth of btc with cash (no kyc)?


lol


It's funny to me how the Fed is able to screw people over financially because most people wont dig into something complicated even something as important as money.
It's really simple if you take away all the complexities:

Jerome, the Fed Chairman wants 100 billion for whatever. He tells the US mint to print the 100 billion and uses the money for whatever he wants.
Some regular guy tries to do this and they get sent to prison (That's illegal!)

Sound fair? Makes sense?


I see an angry monster of some sort, not like anything I've seen before


I dont speak spanish


Great one lol


It's funny how people will believe the BS they see on SM or TV sometimes.
I was in Paris in May and a coworker asked me about the riots in Paris.
I was in Paris. I didn't see any riots. I didn't see any evidence of riots. I didn't hear about any riots.
For all I know, there hadn't been riots in Paris in years.
He was in the US and I was right there lol.

People should question information more


That's messed up man


Angry tiger showing its teeth


Coool😄


Great interview with Vivek and Alex Jones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9N65IFPfso


I see like some evil crab raising his claws


Just Trust wallet at a bitcoin ATM, holding there and trying to spend with it


dont know


I can't pay most of my bills with bitcoin. Once its pretty convenient, then I would switch over. Till then...


Great idea. Lets do it!


I know this is mainly a bitcoin social media platform, but I must say when deciding on cash or plastic for real life transactions:
1. Cash is private. With plastic you are likely raped data-selling-wise
2. No one can "turn off your cash". There are no freezes on your wallet
3. You can take your cash where ever you go with no complications - no foreign transaction fees, etc
4. Cash works with no internet, no power, bank holidays and other extreme situations
5. You are supporting a society where privacy is the default, people control their money directly, no third party between you and the seller
6. You are not paying the banks, credit cards, etc., fees. All the money goes to the seller
Obviously you are still subject to inflation, etc., but until we get more mainstream adoption in the US, cash is my preference


I was just there a month ago! Love Bali


Just how to make Nostr mainstream quicker


This stuff happens so often in history it should  be boring to those who know their history


Brave browser works for me


One thing that strikes me is that most people that I've interacted with in the US think that religion and science are opposite.
Really?!
So Science (Praise the holy "Science") has disproven God?
I didn't see that study - maybe I missed it.

If you do an honest broad overview of the FACTS of life, irrefutable facts like gravity, supply and demand, and other principles that are provable by the common man or seen as almost certainly true with the evidence available (like Earth being round) I think it's likely you would conclude that there is more evidence of God and the spiritual part of life than there is opposing it.
You could almost think of Science as being an opposing "religion" to the major world religions with most people in the US being taught "Science" in school similar to how Christianity was taught in most schools decades ago


I've been reading Creature from Jekyll Island and I've been thinking about the "too big to fail" banks. I've concluded that that is a load of crap.
If I said my small business was "too big to fail", I would be ignored.
It's clearly a cover story for the ignorant masses


Blue bunny rabbit with dirt around


Does anyone know of some citizen militia group in the US that is prepared to get forcibly fire everyone in the federal government if things get too bad here?


I usually find my life goes better when I ignore the daily propaganda ("news") and talk to my friends and family to see whats going on


Ever wonder why there pretty much just a few big banks in the US? Why isn't there lots of competition? Banks make lots of money, there should be competition. I think all roads of that research lead to the banking cartel aka the Fed


Looks like a weird teddy bear to me


From my recent trip to Tokyo


Good point


Is it just me or is airport security not worth it? It doesn't seem worth it


No, I haven’t bought hardly any. Just $10 as a test at a near Bitcoin atm near me. I’d like to have $1000 worth of Bitcoin just in case in the near future


Yeah, that one is great too. The guy seems so pure and singing from his heart - nice to see him getting alot of attention


I've been seeing a few people talk about lowering the population like VP Kamala and Gates.
Hilter also talked about that - but probably just a coincidence...


I like Vivek out of all the candidates the most so far


Twitter is a good news source for me. Tiktok is mental garbage is my experience


No I havent bought it. Just like $10 and put it on my trust wallet on my phone to try the wallet out


Never heard about that whole movement. Probably a good thing with the way the world is going


So SimpleX is better than Signal?


I don't understand, what do u recommend I do for an emergency $1000 bitcoin I can spend using my phone


Any thoughts on Signal over Whatsapp? I hear Signal is encrypted and private funded by donations and Whatsapp sells ur data flat out. So far Signal seems better than Whatsapp


better than no sats:)


never heard of it. So far Ive just bought on exchanges and with cash


Yeah baby!


I think that might be an exaggeration - although I think Nostr is better than twitter and will win over time


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https://image.nostr.build/754b2515408d37e83d79d7b06d1e663834ddd2e38011fc01892a5bab5cef583b.jpg
#meme #memes #memestr #nostrmemes

Some extra, unrelated info for us, the #Bitcoin nerds:
Current block number is 808,988 and the next #halving ETA is 25 Apr 2024 21:28:49 UTC. Tick tock, next block and pura vida, #plebchain fren 🤙💜


I would love it if society could treat gays and trans like smokers - not popular but still allowed


i like the idea. Theres got to be a strategy to accelerate nostrs growth


certainly unique :)


Sounds stupid to me. I dont give a crap about Apples carbon neutral plans and neither does anyone else I know


Amen to that


Wine flood 🍷
2.2 million liters of wine poured out of two burst tanks at Destilaria Levira on Sunday
Portugal, São Lourenço do Bairro

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1701229366422765568/vid/avc1/320x564/K14Vnuc99mmJOwHV.mp4


Imo, people are too concerned about mining centralization. The physical ownership and operation of mining rigs is pretty decentralized (even the big miners are a small % of the network).

I would like to see a bit more mining outside of North America, and I’m also supportive of efforts like Stratum V2 to provide further decentralization assurances for transactions. So there are opportunities for improvement but the incentives generally make sense.

On the other hand, what I don’t see talked about enough is supply chain centralization. The production of the chips themselves has a lot more centralization to it. This is true for most advanced semiconductors in general (and thus is a geopolitical issue) but is of particular concern for a decentralized protocol.


That is a great point


If you test a healthy high fat-low carb diet in your own life, you will see in a few weeks that it is much better for you. Sleep, energy level, weight loss, etc., will all improve


Great podcast - so true. But don't ask the Fed!!


There should be protests - either silently by ignoring her or publicly. I would protest if I lived in NM


I just have a few junk email addresses and use the unsubscribe option on my real email address. Works for me


Great idea - I think most common sense people will adopt a free SM platform/protocol like Nostr. And that would help people come over


Maybe built on the same lines as NOSTR? Like just a selling protocol with templates built in, reviews, payment options, etc


LOL


come home now


new favorite pet🤪🤪 https://image.nostr.build/a113b07f567c82b3539f54f712133ff20fe42563139975b9dc52bd5f573e8306.jpg


Another test post 😆😆 https://image.nostr.build/a6cb9fdfb8caaa1eb0ffb2641de24d692f3edafefaca420f99cba76ab283bb43.jpg


Yeaaahh


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Our last cruise :)

https://video.nostr.build/91d55fbb692ae1334843a6eb8bb98faf7c6368e285578adff5183e40dbcd4849.mov


Well if I lived in NM, I would continue to go armed and exercising my 1st Amendment rights. And I would promote to others that the governor was a tyrant and would be open to protests at the capital about that