Who wants to help with a Core fork CTV client with a 2 year activation flag day? With a 90% support for early lock in.
There’s just no other proposal that has the length of testing, use, and extremely clear limits as CTV. It’s 100th the change that taproot and Segwit were and it just feels silly that we’re just sitting around waiting. At least starting something so people will discuss it seems like the way forward, imo. #Bitcoin
Haha, CTV is the simplest yet capable covenant OP_CODE (simple version: a new script for using Bitcoin) that has been developed and tested for many years now. Was wrapped into a ton of controversy and FUD about 2-3 years ago when Rubin tried to make a client, but slowly we realized it was all nonsense. Then it all died down and we’ve still been talking about what seems like a dozen covenant proposals, when CTV is just sitting there ready to go it seems.
Nobody wants to pull the trigger, but there are just so many benefits if we could get CTV, we should just do it.
I don’t know enough about LNHANCE, and there’s no reason to do a bunch at once. After CTV it could make sense to talk about the next one. We can have concurrent soft forks for simple opcodes.
I won’t get behind something I don’t understand fully. There’s many things that could change if you started a CTV activation client. Thats how you get the ball rolling, imo
I guess I’m having a semantic problem with the word covenants then, because I understood what CTV does as basically a direct covenant. It simply locks the coins to a hash of the next output or TX details. So you can essentially “own” coins without directly needing an on chain footprint unless something goes wrong or you want to have a single UTXO for some particular reason.
I thought that “lock” was basically considered a covenant.
That guy has no clue what he’s talking about. I muted him. He wouldn’t know the difference between multisig and an NFT if it slapped him. Thinking CTV has anything to do with shitcoins is so fucking stupid I suspect he might just be a troll account who doesn’t even like bitcoin or know anything about it.
CTV absolutely helps with scaling, privacy, and vaults in its simplest form. Multiple L2 designs and ideas can benefit from it. Obviously all of those things can be improved further with other op codes, but that’s exactly why I think we should implement and use CTV, that way we have a more direct idea of where it doesn’t meet everything we want. But CTV alone could make a symmetrical and much better LN design, it could alone create transaction pools, it could create a new type of “multisig” ownership that doesn’t actually expose the underlying parties, and that can be updated both cooperatively and exited unilaterally (kinda like channels but with many, rather than just 2, participants).
Ark also would get the lightest single benefit by just having CTV. Again, it wouldn’t be the end all solution to everything? That’s not the point, it’s just the next step toward where we need to go.
I think if we are constantly acting like we need to upgrade “everything we ever need” with the next soft fork, then the next one isn’t ever going to happen, because consensus on “everything we need” seems next to impossible. But a critical building block, that is safe, useful, and long tested feels like the best way to get a little bit closer to where we want to be.
In other words, i think trying to do everything is the impossible path when it comes to consensus, and also the wrong path when it comes to being conservative about the effects on Bitcoin. This isn’t a race, it’s a global foundation, I think one piece at a time, even if it takes 3x as long, is perfectly fine. We just need to get things moving, slow and steady
Taproot didn’t do anything to help shitcoins, I don’t know how that became a popular trope about all of this. In fact, despite it not being used, taproot is how you could do that stupid garbage without it bloating the blockchain at all.
The only bit thing with soft forks that gave a lower cost to inscriptions that were fully printed onto the chain was the Segwit *discount,* which wasn’t even really about Segwit itself, but was simply what was done to get a compromise blocksize increase during the shitstorm of a war that had gone on for 4 full years.
Oh wait, are you responding to that moron who thinks CTV has to do with shitcoins? You are super wasting your time there man. Not worth it at all. Just mute
Yeah none of it really stops or prevents anything. And the witness discount makes sense because having inscriptions there means it can be pruned by anyone who doesn’t want to store that trash.
“I’m not in favor of generic expanded capabilities to the core protocol where we don’t know the limits of how they will be used.”
This is exactly why CTV makes the most sense. It’s a simpler primitive than probably any soft fork we’ve had since the beginning of Bitcoin
How is that terrifying? And how exactly have you reached the conclusion that taproot has been responsible in any way for centralizing mining? Are you saying people wouldn’t be using pools without it? Or that mining somehow wouldn’t have been financialized?
I think you’ve equated cause and effect with things that have nothing to do with each other.
And how on earth do you gauge op_vault as better here? Seriously what do you know about op_vault? It’s actually more expressive than CTV as I understand it.
It’s incredible how PURE and unmitigated their complete self absorption is. EVERYTHING is about them, even the tiniest complaint or preference is persecution against them because it isn’t done THEIR way, and literally nothing else matters. They are the God Queen/King center of the fucking universe and everyone will appease whatever stupid shit they feel for any and all whims that pass through their empty skulls.
Have had a Nostr.build premium account for a while. Awesome service, imo. Especially for saving and posting stuff to Nostr. I have all of my media that I’ve ever posted in a super easy setup to navigate, upload, download, etc.
You think it doesn’t matter but then you lose that meme you posted 3 months ago and can’t find it anywhere… then you know 🤣 nostr:note1mplu38ns9d3vdgj9havafw2npkd6jscg3yz5prs8f2383m7kc8ssknw68j
Negative. Nostr is on a layer much higher than bitcoin and wouldn’t exist or have its most important differentiator without #Bitcoin
I unsheathe my clown sword and point it at you sir!
I don’t think it’s been formalized, and it would probably be a great opportunity for anyone who did, but @Blockstream and others have had really successful little campaigns and announcements by running around and zapping everyone sats with their announcement attached.
I would try a resync or something. Probably there just the wallet isn’t registering for some reason. There’s no real way for them to send your bitcoin to keys that don’t belong to you because all they can do is force close the transaction you signed on their side. Which means it is sent to your address unless it’s just stuck in the mempool, but because fees are low I doubt that’s the problem.
Keep us updated, happy to help if I can. Don’t stress, your coins are very likely accessible, just something not picking it up properly for some reason.
It’s actually kinda funny how simple it all is, just stop forcing people to support things they don’t agree with.
Stop mentally accepting the destruction of someone else’s life to build your utopia, and suddenly things just get better. “Commies” just can’t get past that, they think they can’t beat the bloody life out of everyone who doesn’t do exactly what they think and this will somehow make a land of happiness and peace.
It’s all really about basic morality. Whatever we want to label it is irrelevant.
“What I am interested in is people, our integrated health, and the implications it has on collective society.”
It’s wild when you really dig into it, how completely and thoroughly our mental and physical health are tied to the quality of our money.
The greatest failure of everything around Linux is the seeming universal refusal to have pictures or short video or any visual content around new tools or distros to check out. It’s just paragraphs and paragraphs of description. 😆
Yeah it’s all about scale of imbalance and the long term sustainability of systemic fraud. Sound money destroys the ability to scale violence and fraud both in size and then also its sustainability across time. It won’t solve violence or corruption, it will only make it smaller and more distributed.
Thus there are likely to be more prominent mafias and smaller violent rackets of sorts, but these have always been there, only overshadowed by the massive mafia of the state. So these others will simply be more visible due to the lack of control and prominence of the nation state.
Similar to how few people are concerned about a roach problem while their house is on fire.
They can see our data, but we aren't on their platform. So it can't be used to manipulate what you see, the behaviors they want you to take, or to change you feed to manipulate your view of reality to their benefit.
It's a *very* different proposition from simply being able to see something, vs having total control over what gets in front of you and when it does.
When I want to hang out with frens, I spend time on #Nostr
When I’m annoyed and I want to tell the world how stupid they are, I go post on Twitter. Then I can let it go and come back to #Nostr for some GMs and Pura Vidas 😆
This is good, people are becoming desensitized to it. Let them keep rolling out their stupid, rotting corpse of a dead horse if it works less and less every time. Their stupidity works in our favor.
Not sued, but could receive DECADES IN PRISON.
This is so bonkers it’s fucking incredible. “Web-mastering a platform where…” is literally one of the charges.
And what do you suspect was the purpose in the case where the state was no longer free? And do you think they had all forgotten the Declaration of Independence and the right to throw off a tyrannical govt that no longer served its people? I personally would think that might be fresh in their minds.
This is like a Who’s Who of govt bullshit propaganda to control people.
They literally go down the entire gaslighting checklist
Drugs ✅
Child Porn ✅
Terrorism ✅
Trafficking ✅
Then add the horrible crimes of “providing cryptology for…” in a list of terrible crimes that he was complicit in, because without his “cryptology” such things obviously would be impossible. nostr:note1mlrsp2etdh0k90ekq38gw3vuklphwz294zq5zg8ur54vtzthx02q0hcdar
So you think that if someone calls themselves “inclusive” but then actually bans people, refuses to have open conversation, and bullies everyone who thinks even slightly different than them… that nobody can talk about it because that’s destructive to “inclusivity?”
How exactly would you distinguish someone who called themselves “inclusive” but who was actually the opposite if you can’t even read a post about it? 🤔
How did my simple question “treat you like a shitbird” exactly? Can you point to where I specifically attacked you or why 10 months of interacting with somebody else apparently has *you* treating other people rather poorly?
Well if you’ve already read them and know the ideas then of course those books wouldn’t be super entertaining or thought provoking. But for people who are new and actually interested in a real economic foundation, those are great places to find grounding from the Keynesian shit people are fed.
Those are recommended frequently because they are often completely unheard of for new people into the space. I still know people who majored in Econ and have never even heard that list of names. But of course, it they aren’t looking for economic grounding or something to explain why everything they know about money and the state is nonsense, then those books won’t be of much value to anyone. But nobody is going to pick that knowledge up from Shakespeare.
TL;DR - That list is recommended because those are generally the ideas and arguments that normies have literally never heard before (Rothbard, Hayek, Mises, Rand, etc). Thus, they often result in people’s worldviews being shattered, because they are extremely strong philosophical examinations, imo.
Would love an invite! And I agree with the general thesis here, i will read about anything that sparks an interesting thought and I do fiction as often as non-fiction. 🫡
If it’s very frequent, maybe dummy packages. Plant a “steal me” package with a glitter or stink bomb in it and keep it cycling on and off the porch every so often. 😆
I give this advice as someone who has never done it, but watches YouTube.
Second option, and one I’ve been thinking about personally, is an auto-lock package “box” somewhere. Could also be something not permanent, but if you have some serious deliveries coming, you leave it out with a note to put it inside and shut it.
Won’t work so well if you have multiples arriving unless you want to go crazy with a camera and a wifi/app based lock/unlock mechanism.
Hey @FOLD BITCOIN I sent you guys a support email recently, but I completely stopped getting spins with the recent UI update.
Anyway we could get someone to check on that?
They haven’t been a sponsor in a long time, and I dont see anything about them getting rid of spins. I legit wonder if it’s a mistake. It still has all the same spin details in the docs. Granted they did add partial ACH rewards too, so maybe it did change and the website isn’t updated? 🤔
If it was updated via email, I missed it. Email is the bane of my existence 😂
But I agree with basically everything you said. I wouldn’t be able to function without Fold these days, plus it’s my main debit card for personal and business expenses so I easily make back what I put in, not to mention the round ups, auto stack, gift card rewards, etc. I literally use them for everything and it makes living on a bitcoin standard vastly easier.
That said, I simply didnt realize they were getting rid of spins and was surprised by it. Legit thought it was a bug because I looked up (maybe it was an old website cached or something, but it had the same details for spin rewards as before.
Disagree on not having a purpose without the spin rewards. They aren’t really the major way I was getting sats anyway.
But being on a bitcoin standard, Fold is by far my best multitool and I still get way more sats than it costs, by a long shot actually. In fact, I got more than my monthly cost in just the last 24 hours.
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