Donald Trump: Our country is blessed to have the extraordinary talent, energy and genius represented in this room. It really is great genius. Not all of you, but most of you, many of you, this is the kind of spirit that built America. This is the spirit that's going to help us make America great again. That's what we're doing. I stand before you today filled with respect and admiration for what the Bitcoin community has achieved. It's incredible, actually, I sort of say to my sons, it's like incredible, because they do so much about– it is so they're so aware of it, much more so than people that are a little bit older. But I say this is the steel industry of 100 years ago, really is. I think you're just in your infancy. I can see it happen. In just 15 years, Bitcoin has gone from merely an idea posted anonymously on an internet message board to being the ninth most valuable asset anywhere in the world. Can you believe that? Is that right? That's a big deal. Think of that. It's already bigger than Exxon Mobil. Soon it will be surpassing the entire market cap of silver. It's not bad about gold. How about gold? Let's go gold. …

One day it probably will overtake gold, but based on the way it's going now, it could very well be a possibility. There's never been anything like it, and I don't think you've ever seen anything like it, and most people have no idea what the hell it is. You know that, right? So what happens when they figure it out? That's going to really be something? Bitcoin is not just a marvel of technology, as you know, it's a miracle of cooperation and human achievement and a lot of relationships that are formed. They just did a meeting, a roundtable, with a lot of the leaders, and it's amazing. There's a great camaraderie. It's really interesting. There's obviously– there's competition, but there's a relationship. There's a friendship that's developed with a lot of these people. I noticed, and I don't usually see that too often; I see the opposite. Actually, they want to, they want to get each other. They want to kill each other. These guys have a great feeling. Very smart people, too. Congratulations on all that you've accomplished. This room is amazing. The people in this room – high-IQ individuals. I'm running against a low-IQ individual, her, I'm not even talking about him, her, I got a low-IQ individual. …

The reason I've come to address the Bitcoin community today can be summed up in two very simple words: America first. Because if we don't do it, China is going to be doing, others are going to be doing it. Let's do it and do it right. My vision is for an America that dominates the future. We have the best economy, the highest standard of living, the safest, the most beautiful cities. And by the way, when I say safest, our cities are going to hell. Right now, our cities are going to hell. We're going to fix our cities. We're going to work with Democrats that have destroyed our cities, but we'll work with them. And we're going to get our cities back. We're going to bring our country back. …

If we don't embrace crypto and Bitcoin technology, China will, other countries will, they'll dominate, and we cannot let China dominate. They are making too much progress as it is, and we want them to be successful. I want China to be successful, but we have to be the most successful. And what's going to– what's going to happen? I want the United States to be first in technology, first in science, first in manufacturing, first in artificial intelligence and first in space. …

You need tremendous amounts of electricity. You need double the electricity of the entire electricity that we have right now in the United States to dominate, and we'll get that done. Who would think we can get that done? But we're going to get it done. We'll be having power plants built at the sites. We'll be releasing people from certain ridiculous requirements, and we'll be using fossil fuel to make electricity because we're going to have to. We'll be using nuclear. We'll be doing it in an environmentally friendly way, but we will be creating so much electricity that you'll be saying, Please, please, President, we don't want any more electricity. We can't stand it. You'll be begging me, no more electricity, sir, we have enough. We have enough.

You know, in the Midwest, they just opened, it was very interesting. They just opened up two chargers, you know, a charger for electric cars. And, you know, I love Elon. He's great. He endorsed me, and great endorsement. Everything else, but not everybody has to have an electric car. I told him that. So we're going to get rid of that mandate. If you don't mind, some people want gas and propelled cars. Some people want a hybrid, and some people like electric car. They're great. I think they're great. I think what he's done is great. … It's just like they did these chargers in the Midwest, eight of them. They spent $9 billion to build eight charges to charge up a car. And at that rate, it would cost approximately $12 trillion to put the charges around. Somehow, that's not working. The country would have to file for chapter 11. We'll do a chapter you know, it's called chapter seven, instead of a chapter 11, but it's the equivalent. Now, we have to use our brain. We have to be– we are the party of common sense. Okay, we have to have common sense. But what we do have to do is we have to produce tremendous electric for AI and for all of the other things, including the things that you're doing, and we'll get it produced. And we're going to get it produced fast, or we're not going to be able to compete with China and other countries. So we're going to get it produced fast. This afternoon, I'm laying out my plan to ensure that the United States will be the crypto capital of the planet and the Bitcoin superpower of the world, and we'll get it done. …

If bitcoin is going to the moon, as we say, it's going to the moon, I want America to be the nation that leads the way. And that's what's going to happen. Though, you're going to be very happy with me. You're going to be so happy. You're going to say he's the greatest guy. That's why I'm proud to be the first major party nominee in American history to accept donations in bitcoin and crypto. …

I've heard from Vivek 175 million people in some form, are involved with this world of crypto and Bitcoin and all of the others, 175 million. So when they heard that, they said, Let's be nice to them, at least until after the election. So I've taken a lot of pressure off a lot of people, a lot of people are very happy today that about three months ago, weren't so thrilled for three and a half years. Is that right? And you know, it's right. For three and a half years, the current administration has waged a war on crypto and Bitcoin like nobody's ever seen before. For those who work in this industry, they target your banks. They choke off your financial services. Have people seen that? Yes, yeah, they have; plenty of hands up. They block ordinary Americans from transferring money to your exchanges. They slander you as criminals. But that happened to me too, because I said the election was rigged. He said the election was rigged for making that statement. Of course, they say it about us, that it's okay right now. And by the way, we're doing very well in the election. You know, we lost a candidate recently, crooked Joe Biden, and I thought we lost this wonderful person, and it's actually a terrible human being, if you want to know the truth, so don't feel sorry. We have another worst, worst human being. But, and I sort of made an analogy last night, last night, think of this. I was speaking in front of a very powerful and very strong, very religious group, Christian group, Christians, evangelicals, Christians. And then today, I come in front of Bitcoin, and now I'm going to Minnesota to do a rally. You think my life is so great, don't you? Huh? But I cover a lot of territory. I go from religion to Bitcoin to a rally, and I don't get it mixed up like other people do. …

This is such an honor to be with you. Sadly, when we see the attacks on crypto. It's a part of a much larger pattern that's being carried out by the same left wing fascists to weaponize government against any threat to their power. They've done it to me. Did you see I just won the big case in Florida. Thank you very much. …

The problem is that Kamala is worse than Joe is worse. She's a radical left lunatic, de-fund the police, all of the different things. And so far we're doing– she's got a little honeymoon going on right now. But when people hear about her, and she's against crypto, by the way, she's against it, very big. So I just want to let you know, you got to get out. You got to get out and vote. It should be no surprise that these same totalitarians are hell bent on crushing crypto and obliterating, and that's what they want to do, and that's what they are stated they– Well, I mean, they're, they're right down. You have the SEC, you know what they're doing. Know what they're doing, obliterating Bitcoin. The reason could not be more clear, because Bitcoin stands for Freedom, sovereignty and independence from government coercion and control. The Biden Harris administration's repression of crypto and Bitcoin is wrong, and it's very bad for our country. It's really quite un-American. …

If we don't win this race, and I know you're not that political, but you have to be political, because your whole thing, I mean, you have a lot of politics involved in what you do. If we don't win this race, this country could be finished as we know it. This country is going to be in bad shape, but we have to be in there. We have to fight, and we have to win. And I pledge to the Bitcoin community that the day I take the oath of office, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris's anti crypto crusade will be over. It will end. It'll be done. The moment I'm sworn in, the persecution stops and the weaponization ends against your industry and as long as I'm in the Oval Office. Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas, remember she Yes, I'm an Indian. She said I'm an Indian. Why are you an Indian? You don't look like an Indian? No, no. My mother told me I have high cheekbones. Oh, that's why she was an Indian. So I named her Pocahontas, Elizabeth Warren and her goons, and she's very nasty to you. She hates your people. She hates everything about you. We'll keep their hands off Bitcoin. Keep their hands off crypto. They can let it grow. We're going to let it grow. On day one, I will fire Gary Gensler–

[AUDIENCE CHEERS, AUDIBLE CHANT: "TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!"]

I didn't know he was that unpopular. Let me say it again: on day one, I will fire Gary Gensler. … I will appoint a new SEC chairman who believes America should build the future, not block the future. …

As President, I will immediately shut down Operation Choke Point 2.0. … They want to choke you. They want to choke you. Out of business? We're not going to let that happen. And no longer Will your Government sit by and watch as Bitcoin jobs and businesses flee to other countries, because America's laws are too unclear and too tough and too angry and too stiff. We will keep each and every Bitcoin job in the United States of America, that's what we're going to be doing. Upon taking office, I will immediately appoint a Bitcoin and crypto Presidential Advisory Council. Would anybody like to be on that particular council? Please? You? …

Their task will be to design transparent regulatory guidance for the benefit of the entire industry, and they will get it done in 100 days. We will have regulations, but from now on, the rules will be written by people who love your industry, not hate your industry. People that want to make it clear and simple, straightforward and fair, people that want to see your industry thrive, not dive. Next, I will immediately order the Treasury Department and other federal agencies to cease and desist all steps necessary, because you know, there's a thing going on in your industry. They want to move the creation of a central bank digital currency. It's over. Forget it. CBDC. There will never be a CBDC while I'm president of the United States. …

And I will always defend the right to self custody. Self custody, you're going to have a great industry. You're going to have a great industry, and we're going to be fuel for your industry, not demolish your industry. America will once again be a nation that protects property rights, privacy, freedom of transaction, freedom of association and freedom of speech. We're going to change our, we're going to go back to the old days when we were a nation that was building, not a nation that was eating itself alive from within. As part of our effort to provide regulatory clarity, we will create a framework to enable the safe, responsible expansion of stablecoins. You know what a stablecoin is? Does anybody know? Please raise your hand. Allowing us to extend the dominance of the US dollar to new frontiers all around the world. America will be richer, the world will be better, and there will be billions and billions of people brought into crypto economy and storing their savings in bitcoin. So that's, that's pretty much the way it is. Those who say that Bitcoin is a threat to the dollar have the story exactly backwards. I believe it is exactly backwards. Bitcoin is not threatening the dollar. The behavior of the current US government is really threatening the dollar. …

The danger to our financial future does not come from crypto. It comes from Washington, DC. It comes from trillions of dollars in waste, rampant inflation and open borders while giving welfare and free health care to all of the illegal aliens that are pouring into our country by the millions and millions and millions. It comes from printing hundreds of billions of dollars to fund endless wars overseas, while our cities are like combat zones here at home. …

We want to bring common sense back in. This is all common sense that we're talking about today, and bitcoin and crypto will skyrocket like never before, even beyond your expectations, and you are the people that are doing it. As we stop the war on crypto. We will immediately, and we'll do this very quickly begin to build our economy. Because when America is prospering, bitcoin is soaring, and it will go up with it. We had the greatest economy ever, and we will soon have it again. Under the Trump administration, the typical middle class family income rose by $6,000 a year. People don't like mentioning that America had more money to save than at any time in many decades as a result, during my four years in office. Now you have to listen to these numbers. These numbers are like beautiful and I don't want to repeat myself. Listen to these numbers as a result. During my four years in office, bitcoin surged by 3,900%, from $898 the day I took office to $35,900 the day I left. That was the biggest jump I guess, in just about any industry; think of that. Now, compare that to just after three and a half years of Biden and Harris adjusted for inflation, bitcoin is up 50% now 50% sounds good, but not when you're comparing it to almost 4,000% right? 50% you know, normally you say, oh, that sounds pretty good. Let's not put that into the speech. 50% is that good? When people can't afford groceries or rent, they have no savings to store in bitcoin, this administration caused the biggest inflation in the history of our country. And that's what's happened. People are being wiped out from the very first day. We take back the White House. We will replace the Biden Harris economic stagnation with a brand new Trump economic boom. You're going to have a tremendous boom. …

I will cut unnecessary and burdens of regulations. Fight every day to make America the best place on earth to build a business, including a crypto business. It's going to be the best place. You're not going to have to go to China. You're not going to have to learn, gee, how do I learn Chinese? I want to learn it very quickly. Have a little granddaughter that speaks fluent Chinese. Can you believe it? And it's a wonderful thing. It's not easy, but you're not going to have to do it. Most importantly, for our citizens, we will end the inflation nightmare that this administration has created, and we will end it quickly. It's got to end. It's destroying our country. You know, inflation is a country buster. You can go back many, many years to Germany. You look at what happened to Germany during their huge period of inflation. Destroyed the country. It's a country buster, the bitcoiners. And I say to you that you recognize the dangers of inflation long before most others did. You understood inflation, frankly, better than anybody else, you know that, don't you? If only they had listened. They didn't listen to you. They didn't listen to you. The trillions of dollars in ridiculous waste approved by our opponents resulted in the very inflation disaster that bitcoiners had always predicted. …

America will become the world's undisputed bitcoin mining powerhouse. You'll be a bitcoin mining powerhouse. you will not have to move your family to China. We will not be moving to China … bitcoin and crypto will become the world's undisputed bitcoin mining powerhouse; you'll be a bitcoin mining powerhouse; you will not have to move your family to China. You will not be moving to China. As we perform as Bitcoin and crypto will grow our economy, cement American financial dominance and strengthen our entire country, long into the future. Many Americans do not realize that the United States government is among the largest holders of bitcoin. Does anyone know that? How about that? The federal government almost has 210,000 bitcoin or 1% total supply that will ever exist. But for too long our government has violated the cardinal rule that every bitcoiner knows by heart: Never sell your bitcoin. …

And so as the final part of my plan today, I am announcing that if I am elected, it will be the policy of my administration, United States of America, to keep 100% of all the bitcoin the U.S. government currently holds or acquires into the future, we'll keep 100%. I hope you do well, please. This will serve, in effect, as the core of the strategic national bitcoin stockpile. … Most of the bitcoin currently held by the United States government was obtained through law enforcement action. You know that they took it from you. Let's take that guy's life. Let's take his family, his house, his bitcoin. We'll turn it into bitcoin. It's been taken away from you, because that's where we're going now. That's where this country is going to – fascist regime. And so as I take steps to transform that vast wealth into a permanent national asset to benefit all Americans. …

Today, I repeat my pledge to commute the sentence of Ross Ulbricht to a sentence of time served. It's enough. It's enough. …

Ultimately, my promise to each and every one of you is this, I will be the pro-innovation and pro-Bitcoin president that America needs and our citizens deserve. This will be one industry, but this will be a thriving industry, a great industry, and I'm going to be doing the same thing for every other industry. Also, our nation has never thrived by trying to censor new ideas and shut down the dreams of our people. America always plants our flag on the next frontier and pushes boldly ahead. We have to do that. We haven't been doing that for a long time, especially the last three and a half years. It's gone the exact opposite. Those of you in this room inherit the legacy of generations of American pioneers and patriots, risk takers and renegades who settled this continent, built the modern world that lived on the bleeding edge. You live on a bleeding edge. You do know that bitcoiners, don't you? You are the modern-day Edisons and Wright brothers and Carnegies and Henry Fords, and what you do in your lifetime stands a chance to outlive us all and inspire humanity for generations to come. This will go down as a very important day in the history of your industry. Together, you are building America's future with your own smarts, your own grit and your own skin in the game. You have a lot of skin in the game, and that's what you're doing. It takes courage to do it. Most people don't have that courage. My job will be to set you free and to let you do what Americans do best and what you're going to do better than anybody. Win, win, win. You get a win, win, win, with energy, passion and brilliance like we have rarely seen before. Our country cannot fail. We're a failing nation right now, but we're not going to be for long. Our country cannot fail. With your help, we will save our nation. We will restore the republic, and we will make America and Bitcoin bigger, better, stronger, richer, freer and greater than ever before. Thank you all. Have a good time with your bitcoin and your crypto and everything else that you're playing with, and we're going to make that one of the greatest industries on Earth. Good luck and God bless you all. Thank you. God bless you. Thank you.


One sec, calling a scientist


Tell that to Ross


The idea that you can seperate money from the state without it becoming partisan is literally the dumbest thing I've heard someone say in a long while


If they are quotes, this was bigger than anybody had any right to expect. Y'all need to chill and smell the roses every now and then... Damn


Are they quotes or not?


Don't lift a gift horse's tail? Idk


Don't look a gift horse in the mouth


Y'all really thought trump was going to come out and say "we're ending the fed and adopting Bitcoin as our national currency on day 1" 😂😂😂😂


Didn't listen to the speech. Are these quotes?  If so seems like a logical conclusion?


You're telling me the 80 year old politician didn't deliver at a cryptocurrency conference?!


Was legitimately entertaining. Zero politics
https://youtu.be/6Rb9b8rYhII


Never trust a screenshot of an supposed article.  Links or archived. CTV never published this


After a bit over 2 years of solo work (except for the support of his kids 🥹) my cousin has finally released his creation:

• A kids game to learn #coding! •

It's free to download and currently only available on iPhone and iPad 🫂
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/logic-train-kids-brain-puzzle/id6477834897
"𝘞𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘓𝘰𝘨𝘪𝘤 𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘪𝘯, 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘵𝘭𝘦 𝘦𝘯𝘨𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘱𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘣𝘢𝘴𝘪𝘤 𝘤𝘰𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘭𝘰𝘨𝘪𝘤 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘱𝘵𝘴:

· 𝘚𝘦𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘯𝘨: 𝘜𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘰𝘧 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘴.
· 𝘓𝘰𝘰𝘱𝘴: 𝘙𝘦𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘴𝘦𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘴.
· 𝘊𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘴: 𝘔𝘢𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘥𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘣𝘢𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘯 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴.
· 𝘍𝘶𝘯𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴: 𝘙𝘦𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘴𝘦𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦.

𝘌𝘹𝘱𝘭𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝟪𝟢 𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘶𝘭𝘰𝘶𝘴𝘭𝘺 𝘤𝘳𝘢𝘧𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘭𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘭𝘴 𝘢𝘤𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘴 𝘧𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘭𝘥𝘴. 𝘌𝘢𝘤𝘩 𝘭𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘭 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘦𝘴 𝘯𝘦𝘸 𝘤𝘰𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘴, 𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘢𝘨𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘭𝘰𝘨𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘣𝘭𝘦𝘮-𝘴𝘰𝘭𝘷𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘬𝘪𝘭𝘭𝘴.

· 𝘒𝘪𝘥-𝘚𝘢𝘧𝘦
· 𝘕𝘰𝘯-𝘢𝘥𝘥𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦, 𝘭𝘰𝘸-𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘨𝘯
· 𝘕𝘰 𝘢𝘥𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘮𝘪𝘤𝘳𝘰-𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘴𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴
· 𝘕𝘰 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘥𝘢𝘵𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯
· 𝘕𝘰 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘦𝘹𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘦𝘴"

I thought "what better place than #Nostr and what better people than the #plebchain, to share this with?" He isn't here yet, so I'm doing it for him.

We hope your kids (and everyone, really!) enjoy it 💜


Just zapped you 1 sat. Can you tell me which sat that is?


Money for enemies


https://i.nostr.build/wPXnxL3MegiQF9sf.jpg
https://i.nostr.build/YlluDs5hQAFvFk4g.jpg


Said another way, it's 2^256 times more difficult to guess a 2-of-2 than a 1-of-1. It's exponential.


| **Type**           | **Number of Combinations**            | **Approximation**           |
|--------------------|---------------------------------------|-----------------------------|
| Single Private Key | 2^256 | 1.1579 x 10^77   |
| 2-of-2 Multisig    | 2^512 | 1.3408 x 10^154|


| **Type**           | **Number of Combinations**            | **Approximation**           |
|--------------------|---------------------------------------|-----------------------------|
| Single Private Key | $$2^{256}$$                           | $$1.1579 \times 10^{77}$$   |
| 2-of-2 Multisig    | $$2^{512}$$                           | $$1.3408 \times 10^{154}$$  |


No idea. Probably?  Don't waste my time with it. Don't agree with the design philosophy.


Funny and smart, noice


It's a Blockchain, so more like Bitcoin on chain than lightning.  Compared to on chain Bitcoin it's more private, less secure, and less scarce.  It's easier to be private on Monero than Lightning, but not inherently always more private


Is she at bitcoin2024?


Ah you're 100% right. Removing the spam filter fixed it. I kinda thought that if a manually unblock something the spam filter would ignore it. Thanks!


Women would probably care a bit more 🤷♂


In the grand scheme of things, that frontrun would be pretty inconsequential. Still will believe it when I see it though


Not if you own bitcoin 🫡


The thesis is playing out boys.

NATION STATE SCRAMBLE TO BUY COMING SOONER THAN WE THOUGHT.


Yea removing it from security filters does the same thing. Autoblocks again once I browse to it


Something real strange going on with #amethyst on nostr:nprofile1qqszm4mmkwu7hzacjrgu4xmw8w98n4vr62efqmtwrf4sqf5au5uk8scpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wchsymfhje's profile. Keeps blocking the account and then glitching out when I unblock it, then it autoblocks again

https://v.nostr.build/pdxvD69jvy2PzjZt.mp4


I mean, do they need permission?  Aren't all the platforms doing this?


Yes yes. Don't address the lies, just gloss over them and make a new point.


The vast majority of zappers are Bitcoiners. So I have no idea what you're talking about.


If monero was as big as Bitcoin it would also have ETFs... That has nothing to do with either protocol ya doofus


I take it you've sold all your Bitcoin for XMR then?  Thank you for your sacrifice 🫡


Multiple logical contradictions. On one hand you say the supply cap has been reached, but then the next sentence you explain how every block creates new XMR. Both statement can't be true. You also assert that without a block subsidy the incentive to mine vanishes, which ignores transaction fees.

Monero has no supply cap. It will inflate indefinitely. That is a fact. You never achieve "all coins in circulation"


Lightning isn't perfect, but it also works incredibly well. It's also not the end all be all of L2s.  We're still early


This guy thinks layers built on top of Bitcoin is code being added to Bitcoin 😄. Spotted the "tech enthusiast"


:keks:


In all honesty, I get it man. I don't think privacy is a bad goal by any stretch of the imagination. I think it's crucial. I just just don't think sacraficing scarcity and hardness on the base layer is a good tradeoff to achieve privacy. I believe building in layers is the correct approach and anything else is a distraction/brain drain towards the real goal of seperating money from the State.

I don't meme on Monero because I think it's evil or has bad intentions. I meme on it because I think it's taking the wrong approach to achieve laudable goals.


Signal messages are private, doesn't make them good money


You don't have a zap address. Too bad. Was going to send you a micropayment of NFTs that I got from receiving micro payments of NFTs streamed to me while I listen to podcasts


My belief that Monero doesn't make good money has nothing to do with my belief that Bitcoin does, other than the fact that I'm using the same tests for both.


I wouldn't touch an NFT either


#monero 💩 #bitcoin https://i.nostr.build/r63QXV1ZWlfXajM4.jpg


Wen #monero💩


Monero folks seem hyper sensitive, that makes me wanna meme on them even harder

I would be too if I bought something in 2018 and lost 70% of my purchasing power 💀

Congrats tho you can safely buy questionable porn on the dark web.


This is super embarrassing 🫤


if I can still buy an identical house on the same street for a reasonable price, I don't care much if there are some degenerates overpaying


Remember when we thought shitcoins ruined Bitcoin's fee market?

https://i.nostr.build/QYLCHAEoIwATFehK.jpg


Yogi says " #GM and PV 🤙"

https://i.nostr.build/mxG8NuCMIBbZqLAE.jpg


Yogi says "#GM and PV 🤙"

https://i.nostr.build/mxG8NuCMIBbZqLAE.jpg


Yogi says "GM and PV 🤙"

https://i.nostr.build/mxG8NuCMIBbZqLAE.jpg


Did someone say silent payments? 🤫

We have just signed the first ever silent payment transaction on a hardware wallet!

Coming to your BitBox02 soon!

https://video.nostr.build/b45e4e77e4b8366ae00510c5899802574ffee0ff61b1f547cc26125ca5884d88.mp4


I feel like Nostr has leveled up over the last few weeks. This place is buzzin
https://i.nostr.build/VQXw07TnZQci2aO5.gif


"We Don't Live In Dictatorship": Black Lives Matter Blasts Democrats For 'Anointing' Harris Without Vote

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/we-dont-live-dictatorship-black-lives-matter-blasts-democrats-anointing-harris-without

#Zap to support, DM to suggest new feeds.


You buy Bitcoin at the price you deserve


Can't convince everyone at once. Some people will necessarily get it before others. All I am saying is that separating money from the state is inevitabley political and in today's political climate the modern Right is (obviously) closer ideologically than the modern Left.  I am not saying the modern Right's ideology is perfect, not by a *long* shot. But it's super weird to me that people pretend they are equal.


The American Right is more likely to learn from or be attracted to Austrian Economics and Bitcoin than the American Left

and that's OK


Proton launches Bitcoin wallet and will hold reserves in #Bitcoin 👀

https://proton.me/blog/proton-wallet-launch


hahaha


just used nostr:nprofile1qyd8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn5dpjhxctdv43kzapwd9hj7qguwaehxw309ahx7um5wfjkccte9euk2emgwfhjuumfw3jj7qgmwaehxw309ahx7um5wfc82c3w09jkw6rjduh8x6t5v5hsz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjme0qythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2ap0qythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvfskuep0qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uqzp7ppz7dat453ccd5x43nvwy2mtwresfsfay7wudg0sudulk5l5pzl8wv38  's inactive user checker and it's super awesome.  If you need to do some follow cleanup, highly recommend! cleared out over 200 users for me!

 https://yeghro.site/nostr-inactive-users-checker/


🍵 Good Morning, Bitcoin - Tuesday, July 23, 2024

GM. Here’s the latest news, insights, and updates that have landed on our radar today.

https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/gm-2024-07-23/


:handshake:


Totally the case on amethyst. A lot of times when I go to @ someone they don't show up until I first do a search for them (loading them into the cache) then I'm able to @ them


My X account got suspended. I am not told what post(s) or action(s) caused this.

I had over 10k followers.

Necessity is the mother of migration.


It's definitely hard to imagine. HOWEVER I still believe it's a logical goal. If the president's admin is using text based digital communication *in his name*, he should at the very least review, approve, and sign the message. Just like we used to insist with letters/memos/press releases being on their official letterhead and signed. Technology could make this easier, rather than harder


Drive chain super unlikely unless you drive car from like 60 years ago, but possibly a timing chain 😜


Totally, don't need to use Google at all with graphene of you don't want to. And if you do it's completely sandboxed


Is Biden:

A) stepping down because he can't win?

B) stepping down because he's unfit to run?

If "A" what about protecting democracy? He won the primary.

If "B" he needs to resign immediately.


Kamala Harris would appreciate it if you did NOT renote this video of Tulsi Gabbard exposing her

https://s3.poster.place/poster-media/95de2d254d51101ab0f3de1d96a5dfb60c49df26eb5752b4ea30235e740b3f45.mp4


Pixel 8 Pro is fantastic hardware all around. Graphene only matters if you care about your privacy/security. If ya don't, then agree


Latest pixel with grapheneos installed


Then he might want to make a public statement like with his own mouth?


White paper is today's resignation

Off-white is July 8th's letter to Congress.

https://i.nostr.build/7e2Js9qQiYZ6CcpC.jpg
https://i.nostr.build/qMpSZEPzCUcPeJxS.jpg


She was AG in California. He owns one of the most expensive golf courses on the planet outside of LA.  Gotta grease those political gears


What made today "time" rather than yesterday, last week, last month, etc?


These people hate you.
https://m.primal.net/JZQa.jpg


When your party's ideology stands for nothing except the steadfast, unquestioning compliance to central authority, you get what's happening right now in the DNC.  This is fiat.


Kamala Harris might be the only person non-Americans make fun of more than Joe Biden.


🥱 - Bitcoin


You know who should run the country?
The person who's been in charge of the southern border for the last few years.


:keks:


C
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Lol so gross

The theater!


😂 this is all too good


Biden is not a good man. He's an incompetent tyrant with zero regard for human life.


Papa Obama has spoken. Later Joe 👋


Kinda feel like showing obvious symbolic solidarity this close to an even as big as an assassination attempt is a tad different than wearing ineffectual masks and shaming those that don't


The part that keeps blowing my mind is, and not to minimize what happened at all, but we we're centimeters away from extremely dangerous national unrest. If he died, it would have been absolute chaos. Very scary stuff.


Me 😁 just trolling


JUST IN: Trump will show his ear if Biden takes a cognitive test


Talk about knowing your audience 😉 well played


Crickets


:handshake:


👏👏

https://fountain.fm/episode/Nh3J88Fs2dHKxdXMReIE

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eCash is a replacement for/improvement of traditional custodial lightning, not non-custodial lightning or Bitcoin.

If you make the unqualified statement "eCash sacrifices censorship resistance" the logical interpretation is that you're making a comparative statement about eCash in relation to the thing it aims to replace/improve - not the thing it never intended to replace/improve.

eCash aims to replace traditional custodial lightning. One of the benefits of eCash vs traditional custodial lightning is that individuals cannot be censored by custodians. I am asking if P2PK changes that.

(I suspect you fully understand everything I am saying, but breaking down the disconnect for people reading this thread that may be less informed)


How are mints more susceptible to DoS than custodial lightning?


I wouldn't go that far, BUT there should be a single merit/performance based standard regardless of gender.


Explain?  Blind-signatures provide extremely powerful internal and external privacy. How can you censor someone if you don't know who or what they're doing?


Does P2PK sacrifice censorship resistance?

#ecash #cashu


I think the most likely thing at this point is criminal, purposeful negligence.  They clearly did not have their best and brightest out there. Half of the agents were out there to make a political statement


How did they figure out this secret?


This pain won’t last long, #nutsack is coming

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https://m.primal.net/JTOz.png


You fascist!


X serves as my backup plan for if governments seize or ban Nostr.

https://i.nostr.build/o4NfGvxa8A2h5BBT.jpg


Oh totally, but not for them to get cought!  That part is nice 🙂


#faketoshi #csw

https://i.nostr.build/N77GcHu9zXFaBsH8.jpg


Slight, yet important, distinction: fractional reservs are possible with all custodial *scaling* solutions.

Who is saying otherwise for eCash?  This seems pretty obviously true


Are Trump's most enthusiastic critics *correct* that he'll crack down on civil liberties? I have no strong view here except this empirical fact: Operations Chokepoint 1 and 2 — the most dramatic cases of blocking bank access for political enemies — were under Obama and Biden.


Made the mistake of exploring some comments sections on Instagram about this weekend.  The Nostr community is by far the most well informed community on the internet...


The blockchain is the least interesting thing about Bitcoin

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Amazing!


Would be kinda cool if #amethyst automatically rebroadcasted all loaded notes to your local relay if you have one configured


"Vance has disclosed Bitcoin holdings valued at up to $250,000, which at the time of writing is around 6.5 BTC"

#gametheory

Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-friendly-republican-candidate-jd-vance-wins-ohio-senate-primary


"Vance has disclosed Bitcoin holdings valued at up to $250,000, which at the time of writing is around 6.5 BTC"

#gametheory

(Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-friendly-republican-candidate-jd-vance-wins-ohio-senate-primary )


Honestly had no idea lol partial to your later work I guess 😉


Oh wow I didn't realize you worked on "their" codebase!  Very interesting. I'm sure that's a story


Don't doubt it. I guess I meant technically speaking. But I guess if it's a dud what's the point ha

🤙


Hey nostr:nprofile1qqsqgc0uhmxycvm5gwvn944c7yfxnnxm0nyh8tt62zhrvtd3xkj8fhgpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcd8hw7u I know truth social, once upon a time, was basically rebranded soapbox, backed by mastodon. But I think they've since closed themselves off (classic), right?  Is there any hope for a bridge?


Fascism is for the only liberty which can be a serious thing, the liberty of the state and of the individual in the state. Therefore for the fascist, everything is in the state, and no human or spiritual thing exists, or has any sort of value, outside the state. In this sense fascism is totalitarian, and the fascist state which is the synthesis and unity of every value, interprets, develops and strengthens the entire life of the people.

— Benito Mussolini, Giovanni Gentile, Doctrine of Fascism (1932)


:bluecheck:


This

These are Lego pieces.

assemble them in any way, shape or form you that works for you for the task you want to accomplish. nostr:note13tgtn97zuywqgpjvst4y0wnhs4vl06fstwkxqch0tqhxzptup4ys3fvqk4


Mostly agree. But I think adding in "populism" and "anti-immigration sentiment" blurs the lines a bit, opening the door just enough to label the modern right as fascist if you strawman their arguments.

"Severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition" is a pretty crucial piece of the definition.

https://i.nostr.build/DTDhLbeLDW3voJrS.jpg


Mostly agree. But I think adding in "populism" and "anti-immigration sentiment" blurs the lines a bit, opening the door just enough to label the modern right as fascist if you strawman their arguments.

https://i.nostr.build/DTDhLbeLDW3voJrS.jpg


What's your definition of fascist?


No successful, well adjusted, adult is running to 4chan with something like this.


Don't stain yourself jumping through logical hoops


:pressf:


Truly chilling


I'm quicker to believe the SS is brave as shit, but incompetent, than to believe it was a conspiracy.


I'm quicker to believe the SS is brave as shit, but incompeten, than to believe it was a conspiracy.


I guess I'm trying to say the theory that he missed on purpose doesn't really make sense...


Which would suggest he missed on purpose. Why would the DHS want trump to win?


9 hits hard


I want to hear Antifa's statement


Thoughts and prayers 🙏


Yea literally a quote. No clue who it was though, was flipping around to see how different channels were covering it


For the love of God, take a deep breath. Take off your team blue jersey for 10 minutes...


"it is not clear this was political violence" - MSNBC host

🤡🌎


It offers improved UX (thanks nostr:nprofile1qqs04xzt6ldm9qhs0ctw0t58kf4z57umjzmjg6jywu0seadwtqqc75spzpmhxue69uhnzdps9enrw73wd9hszynhwden5te0wp6hyurvv4cxzeewv4eszynhwden5te0wfjkccte9enrw73wd9hsxv8qkt 😁) and strong privacy and censorship resistance


Even if WoS and Custodial Alby switched to Cashu and they were the only two mints custodial users used, we'd be in a substantially better place than we are today.

Cashu and custodial lightning do not have identical risks. Cashu is an improvement in multiple ways.


Consider how quickly this fraud would be noticed. The second anyone tried swapping you'd be caught and your mint would be ostracized by the community.


Consider about how quickly this fraud would be noticed. The second anyone tried swapping you'd be caught and your mint would be ostracized by the community.


If every person that zapped you used a different mint and you swapped every zap to your mint, it would be no different fee wise than it is today.

But in reality, people will coalesce around mints. They have less centralization forces than custodial lightning wallets, but will still tend to centralize. Because of this you won't swap individual zaps. You'll probably only swap once your untrusted mint balance hits a certain threshold. This logic could even be baked right into clients. Because of this, you will end up saving on fees.


:drakeyes:


Just a ton of WoS and custodial Alby user screaming eCash FUD, while totally missing the irony. Classic 😎


In the short term technically inferior solutions may crowd out technically superior solutions. But in the long term, this is almost never the case.

But in this specific case, I am not aware of a technically superior solution that currently exists.


Doesn't this still suffer from that stuck HTLC problem?


:blobno:


Good is a stepping stone to great


don't let perfect be the enemy of good ☕

#gm


Vast majority of Nostr users use custodial lightning.

Today's custodial lightning offers no privacy and no censorship resistance.

Cashu offers strong privacy and censorship resistance.

For the minority of user who want to run their own lightning node, the option still exists. Cashu zaps address the reality that most do not.

Maybe one day a fully non-custodial solution will exist with great UX, but it doesn't today.


The biggest thing to happen to Nostr since NIP-57


:shakingeyes:


THE MONEY IS IN THE NOSTR!

👉 Create a new npub AND DOING NOTHING ELSE, no WoS, no nostr-wallet-connect pairing,... NOTHING

☑ receive zaps
☑ send zaps
☑ and most importantly ACCESS MY WALLET FROM ANY CLIENT ON ANY DEVICE

these zaps are verifiable, way faster -- they are immediate (since the sending of the ecash is the zap, instead of waiting for a LN node to, maybe, publish a zap receipt)

Just like our contact lists follows us around, just like our profile data and our shitposts pops up in any nostr application, now so does our sats.

the money is in the nostr!

https://m.primal.net/JOgu.mp4


This is a custodial solution. There is always a level of trust in a custodial system. This is an improvement to everyone using custodial WoS or Alby.  If you want to maintain full custody run your own lightning node (and/or mint)


Not really sure what you mean 😕

You proposed that the Trump admin not engaging in press briefings and the Biden admin embracing daily press briefings somehow illustrates a meaningful lack of, or abundance of, transparency.

I'm arguing that Biden has objectively been the least  available/public POTUS in modern history (backed up by concrete statistics). BECAUSE his administration has been actively hiding his physical and mental degradation.

That's not hyperbole, it's a direct rebuttal of your original point.

Press Secretaries flipping through and reading back prewritten propaganda to a room of "journalists" isn't transparency.


Guys, they are saying he did great last night...

The MSM is freaking hilarious


It's all meaningless political theater.  But the least useful part of the theater is the daily press briefing.

Watching a press secretary flip through a binder while the President is in hiding (or napping) isn't meaningful or useful.

Particularly gross when the daily press briefing becomes one piece in a larger scheme to hide the president's dementia from the public while chanting "transparency!".


:sunglasses:


Certain banking apps use a buggy anti-tampering library which was broken by a security improvement in the most recent #GrapheneOS release. It wasn't reported during 2 days of Alpha/Beta testing. We've paused rolling it out to the Stable channel and we're working on resolving it.

Compatibility issue is caused by these apps having hand-written 64-bit ARM assembly code that's making system calls with the 32-bit ARM compatibility layer even on devices unable to run 32-bit ARM code at a CPU level. They depend on a quirk of how 32-bit ARM compatibility works.

Unfortunately, it means we need to temporarily revert the removal of the kernel's 32-bit compatibility layer on devices without 32-bit support. Banking apps are holding back security with their anti-tampering libraries. They do this to make it harder to audit their insecure apps.


Trump averaged 22 press conferences per year during his 4 years. Biden has averaged roughly 10.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/presidential-news-conferences


Hmm, did I? You're saying bitcoiners excited about someone like Trump pandering to us makes those bitcoiners sellouts, right?

I'm saying convincing politicians they should pander to us is essential and all part of the game theory.


Politicians latching onto Bitcoin to pander for votes is literally essential for Bitcoin's game theory. We need them to pander. We need to, by some round about way, convince the political class to defund themselves. That's literally what's happening and it's beautiful


Politicians latching onto Bitcoin to pander for votes is literally essential for Bitcoin's game theory. We need them to pander. We need to, by some round about way, convince the political class to defuns themselves. That's literally what's happening and it's beautiful


I have no idea how introducing more folks to Bitcoin / Austrian Economics could ever be seen as a bad thing.  This is good for Bitcoin.


It doesn't matter what brings you to Bitcoin.

A lot of new folks are going to be exposed to Bitcoin and Austrian Economics that may have never been otherwise.

Trying to spin this as a bad thing is bonkers to me.


:handshake:


More people buying and holding is literally the *only* way we eventually separate money from state.  The USA's largest populist movement being pro-bitcoin is a good thing, that will absolutely also bring challenges.

There isnt a plot being lost here... This is game theory playing out (ahead of schedule IMHO)


🎉 Update NUT-00: Cashu now supports binary-encoded tokens that save around 40% on token size compared to the previous format.

The new token format starts with "cashuB" 🫡

https://github.com/cashubtc/nuts/blob/main/00.md#v4-tokens


What happens when a populist movent meets a fixed supply?


Don't get too pumped about Trump speaking at this year's nostr:npub1rwh33t5x8n7czknhts5fg0v0fml8mkl7neaarksumkkf8d679qrqcz7avv, there are forces in motion that could severely impact the bitcoin industry if people don't begin to make noise.

Earlier today there was a Senate Agriculture Committee hearing on Oversight of Digital Commodities with the head of the CFTC that everyone should watch.

If the legislation that is inevitably going to come out of this hearing gets passed it won't matter if Trump gets into office. The industry will be hindered for years. There is bi-partisan support at the moment as Democrats are moving quickly to react to the buzz Republicans have received due to their embrace of bitcoin.

Long story short, this committee is pushing to give the CFTC regulatory oversight over spot bitcoin markets, which is an unprecedented expansion of CFTC authority into retail commodities trades whereas in the past they have exclusively had jurisdiction over only commodities derivatives markets.

If the CFTC is granted this expansion of authority it would mean that they are likely going to require any bitcoin company to register with the federal government and have enhanced KYC/AML requirements. To be clear, this won't only affect exchanges, but any company that touches spot bitcoin.

These efforts are being spearheaded on the crypto side via lobbying efforts by Kraken, Coinbase and Ripple. Not shocking because this would likely enable them to trivially erect regulatory moats.

It looks like the bi-partisan effort will be looking to pass something through the House and into law rather quickly. Likely before the election.

It is imperative that you speak out against this as it would increase the regulatory and compliance burdens on US bitcoin companies considerably. The best move right now is no action. We need less regulation, not more. As we've seen time and time again throughout the first 15-years of bitcoin, these regulations but users in harm's way and make it unreasonably difficult for companies to operate cheaply and effectively.

Call you Representative and tell them to reject any bill that would give the CFTC oversight over spot bitcoin markets. This is a full on attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3i0pxWvyPc


Cashu zaps fix this

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* sips beverage *


Good bot


Throw a societal problem out there?


May or may not own beerstr.com 😁


Yea clients need to update to properly display the embedded zap. But supposedly this is in the works!


Testing Fountain boosts over Nostr 👀 👀 👀

https://fountain.fm/episode/Fx4t02C24tElMvzLE1Mc

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I send out about 20x what I get 🥲


Ah, I think you're right


I get a lot of practice with my own terrible handwriting 😁


"they write plays about themselves not mythical subjects"?


Gm, Nostr ☕
Hope you have a great week 🤙


As far as I understand, you would still only be able to see someone's public Cashu zaps. Cashu zaps could be encrypted using nip44 in which case you wouldn't see them. The receivers client would combine the public and private (nip44) balances


Would be kinda cool if this data could be tracked and published using Nostr itself 👀

Nostr as a protocol for the publishing, aggregation, and discovery of public data would be pretty cool

nostr:nevent1qqsgv64wp0u5rguqysjt35mddyu3cmwg3ned8nryh9catjvn69nv2egpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3qh8nk2346qezka5cpm8jjh3yl5j88pf4ly2ptu7s6uu55wcfqy0wqxpqqqqqqzt3fmez


I work to get rich. I'm in Bitcoin to preserve my effort.


Cut grass, cut wood. Tomayto, tomahto.


THIS NOSTR ACCOUNT WILL BE PUBLISHING ALL THE FUN STUFF WE GET UP TO AS WE EXPERIMENT WITH IN-CLASS BITCOIN EDUCATION WITH TEENAGERS


Why should they host your content for free?  Hosting costs money. If you don't want your content to be monetized outside of your control, don't use a "free" hosting service


that's 100% the goal

when I'm done we'll be able to:

* have a single balance across all nostr apps
* no QR codes / NWC secrets
* zaps are immediate -- no need for a zap receipt -- if you send the zap the zap is received -- sending money will be exactly as fast as publishing a note or creating a 👍 event
* there's no need to signup for a wallet, your nsec is your wallet


Just like a normal town square. Invisible thought police can eaves drop and kick you out of the square if you thought crime


:shakingeyes:


Half of it, this was a regular zap funded by cashu that was in my nostr balance. This obsoletes NWC


:sunglasses:


Did Joe use the big boy potty?! Good boy Joe! Such a good job!

https://v.nostr.build/AaW5E.mp4


Today really highlights that the ability to celebrate an insurrection super depends on the success of said insurrection


Care to elaborate?


Yea I think there are two situations:

1) Nostr client login

2) Platforms that allow you to login with Nostr

Eventually #1 will be everything, but in the meantime there will likely be a lot of #2s. For #2 the platform just has to be able to prove you have ownership of your npub, which can be accomplished through DM


Can any eCash FUDster explain to me how eCash doesn't improve custodial lightning?

Can any eCash FUDster explain to me how we scale Bitcoin without custodial lightning?


:handshake:


"logging in" with Nostr is quite different than logging in with a traditional account. When done correctly, the service or platform being accessed never touches your keys/credential/secret. This limits the blast radius of a hack significantly. Can't and shouldn't think of it the same way that you think of "an account"


To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word "doublethink" involved the use of doublethink.

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:pressf:


:whatthefuck:


Seems to have fixed my issue with it not remembering by choices 👍👍


Think in sats, not dollars.


Julian’s first birthday in freedom in fourteen years. https://image.nostr.build/fbe6bb8fade32607000b35a0595ccf65236935ca4e54c0823eeb5d8fd2593ad0.jpg


Oh shoot had to zap again to test 😉

All good now


Got a link?


Is there an RSS-to-Nostr bridge?


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- $58k gang

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Welcome!

(Just FYI doesn't look like your LN address is sending zap recipes)


/subscribe


Accounts are so 2021


Website accounts are so 2021


Hey I learned something 😄 no need to apologize 🤙


769269 - December 2022


Hi and welcome!


Criticism is something you can easily avoid by saying nothing, doing nothing, and being nothing. - Aristotle


Tagged him in the thread, it's nostr:nprofile1qqswfa547pdmqkerzf2uen3agudc67wxffjmenqpge3dylc006fppyspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduqs6amnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dsq3wamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwvehh2mn5v95kutnxd57fs6dx afaik


Your star is rising 🌠


Lmao clients have defaults... You can change them. Don't be dramatic.


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210 sats should be the smallest default #zap


Here's a good example. Zapped Guy 210 sats (hey nostr:nprofile1qqstnem9g6aqv3tw6vqaneftcj06frns56lj9q470gdww228vysz8hqpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqzrthwden5te0dehhxtnvdakqz9rhwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjmcjgxv3n can you confirm?). The ecash left my wallet, but I then got a notification as if I had zapped myself. You can even see amethyst thinks I've been the recipient of 210 sats worth of zaps today

https://i.nostr.build/XV9v0.jpg


Interestingly when I zap using nostr:nprofile1qqstxwlea9ah3u6kjjszu6a7lrnhqkfh8eptp2z6v0e9558tlkkl2rgpzemhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejz7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcpremhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8wetvd3hhyer9wghxuet59u4kl3vp on #amethyst sometimes I get a notification on amethyst as if I've been zapped. My minibits balance goes down, I see the payment, but amethyst thinks I'm the recipient. Strange.


About half way though. Eric is a good human.


Waiting for a wallet that supports 2047 word length seed phrases


Quick update cause I saw I few updates come through. Still seeing this behavior. Seems to be specific to relay auth and nip 44 decryption

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After working 16 hours almost every day this week I finally gave notice to my current company.

Even though I love my job as an #eventmanager more than anything, I’m simply not financially appreciated enough for my work. So I decided to become a freelancer working for myself and finally doing what I can do best !

So #Nostr community shoot out and let it grow together. If you have any ideas let me know. #leavingthesystem #berlin #grow #solutions #free #freelance
https://m.primal.net/JDLF.jpg


The Nostr future


Nope. They let the miner decide


As long as you don't tell your ketones, you should be good 👍


Dear friends, part of getting developers signing their apps on nostr is giving them the ability to link their other cryptographic identities (for instance,  their Android keystore) to nostr.

For this I have submitted a PR to the NIP repo, to enhance NIP-39 with cryptographic identities. (It's been in stand-by for months.)

We will probably start using it regardless but if you have any input, please chime in. Or make some noise there so we can get it merged 🙏

https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/1335


Sounds like they're going to swap Biden out. I would imagine Harris is the obvious choice procedurally and since she's such a mental powerhouse, it'll be a no brainer 🍿🍿🍿


And I don't mean this like "red squashed blue lolol", more like it's clear Biden's mental and physical well-being is so far from being his wife's or his campaign's concern it's sickening.  Can only imagine what they had him pumped full of...  I feel bad for the guy

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Televised elder abuse should be something we go back to avoiding...


I’m Joe Biden

and I forgot this message https://image.nostr.build/ec0eb2630c8be15959330b046cee772c001a7635464486102d8f345911ab8bfc.jpg


Newsom is lucid


Lmao. Harris and intellectual. Yikes.


I've tried posting a couple Biden quotes but autocorrect won't let me


Anyone have a drinking game written up?


They can only sell once


Only 1 across both apps


The International Tribunal of Dans will be holding a vote at 3pm EST regarding the excommunication of disgraced member, Dan Held.

#onlydans


I spoke too soon... These are returning every couple of mins regardless of "remember"
https://i.nostr.build/WGaEk.jpg
https://i.nostr.build/POge0.jpg


Looking forward to "enter mint npub" 😎


Manually selecting each to remember didn't seem to work either. But I cleared the storage on both amethyst and amber, re-added my account, and now it seems to be working like normal.


The "Select/deselect all" toggle seems to also toggle those remember questions?


The "Select/deselect" toggle seems to also toggle those remember questions?


nostrpurple.com offered this at some point I believe... nostr:nprofile1qqsr7acdvhf6we9fch94qwhpy0nza36e3tgrtkpku25ppuu80f69kfqpzdmhxw309akx7cmpd35x7um58g6rsd3eqyxhwumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmvqyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnhd9hx2px56dk?


Once you get into anything specialized, even the best LLMs hallucinate non-stop. I find this to be especially true in application/cloud architecture. Architecture requires predictive decision making; how will this decision effect something 10 decisions from now?  LLMs, afaict, don't have *any* ability to do this. They just hallucinate to make their answer sound plausible.


Amethyst for me also. Tried removing and re-adding the account and still seeing the same behavior.  Oddly enough the toggle at the top of the page to select all, I press that which also selects remember on each request, but when I click save or continue or whatever for like a single frame as the animation happens I can see that select all has flipped back to off. Not sure if that's a clue 🤷♂


Sure, Bitcoin is literally a cryptocurrency. It's the first. But "crypto" has colloquial meaning. "Crypto" is not Bitcoin, and Bitcoin is not "crypto".


The patrons would be way too cool and vibes too good


Seems to be a bug where it keeps asking me the same permission requests over and over again even if I select remember


Fake News: Assange Plea Deal Did Not Order Deletion Of DNC Emails

https://m.primal.net/IzCF.jpg
https://www.therage.co/assange-plea-deal-dnc-emails-deleted/


:shakingeyes:


They always could.


Did #wikileaks ever distribute these leaks as torrents?

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It's a custodial scaling solution.

We strongly embrace legacy custody scaling solutions today. Most people use them. You're using one.

These legacy custody solutions have zero privacy and zero censorship resistance.

eCash is a better custodial solution. Strong privacy and full censorship resistance.

Nobody is claiming it's non-custodial. It has its place and is massive improvement to what most people use today, including yourself.


:funkycat:


Yea that makes sense. Tradeoffs have to exist somewhere


Sounds like I need to do more research haha

I thought the main benefits were offline receives, frictionless onboarding, cheap intra-ASP payments, and stronger sovereignty, which sounded perfect for zaps. But I need to spend some more time wrapping my head around this 😄


I think I'm confused... Reading through the docs, trying to wrap my head around how offline receives work.  I don't understand what an ark address is.


Hold up, this isn't correct. A mint cannot rug you as easily as a custodial LN wallet. With custodial lightning, you're an entry in their DB. They can single you out, deplatform, and/or censor you. A mint cannot do this. A mint can't rug individuals, it's all or nothing. They rug everyone or no one. The reputational cost is vastly different.


If someone is working on eCash zaps, they should backup and try to make the spec flexible enough to adapt to Ark tokens


How can a user "be in control of their own keys with the ability to unilaterally" transact without owning UTXOs on the base chain?


Bitcoin is a fundamentally flawed protocol if your criteria for success is every user having ownership of UTXOs on the base chain.


A tiny dip and we all go back to bear market feuding lmao


Your post isn't in reference to the ongoing fedimint guardian offline DNS issue? The one that kinda broke mutiny wallet? The one that everyone is talking about?


eCash has zero dependency on DNS. A specific implementation does.  Would be super silly to walk away from eCash because one implementation has a known and solvable issue...


Just a reminder for mutiny.plus users, while the team(s) sorts things out, nostr:nprofile1qqstxwlea9ah3u6kjjszu6a7lrnhqkfh8eptp2z6v0e9558tlkkl2rgpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtc78hzgw provides simple LN addresses

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Always has been 😎


Well, I am convinced.  ~300 undecillion here we come!


Be right back, going to ask ChatGPT about IPv6


This is funny cause it actually has some great parallels with why LN won't scale to billions of p2p users


Liquidity down,
Bitcoin falls, can't stay down long,
Plan, rise with the dawn.


I did NOT see that coming


If I had to guess, Mullvad probably pays for Mullvad's marketing


Any VPN worth using costs money. Being able to pay in LN is a benefit


Link in the OP


NewPipe ftw


The real problem with big blockers & shitcoiners is that they don't understand enough about money & economics to have any awareness of the actual problem that #bitcoin was created to solve.

“The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks”

This isn't about fucking coffee payments. It's about ending monetary slavery. We will eventually get the coffee payments too, but not if we let a bunch of wildly ignorant people fuck up base layer security.


Lando has been damn impressive


Bitcoin = Layer 1
Lightning = Layer 2
eCash = Layer 3

It's not L1 vs L2
It's not L2 vs L3

It's L1+L2+L3 vs fiat hellscape


L3s are so hot right now


Most lightning users and their transactions are updates in a centralized DB.

Framing the discussion around eCash and lightning as if custodial lightning doesn't exists is extremely bad faith.


eCash mitigates *some* of those custodial risks. "some" is a very important part of my statement.


eCash isn't a replacement for lightning, it's a solution to it's always-online requirement and a mitigation to some of lightning's custodial risks.

It's not eCash vs Lightning

It's eCash vs other solutions to those issues


Mullvad 1st party only accepts on chain Bitcoin.

vpn.sovereign.engineering is a 3rd party that allows you to purchase Mullvad credits with lightning (privately).


Today I created a nostr:nprofile1qqsdru78zcu6uwa6zlludjx7k87m8ft9q6e5jgsn6qe49rxzj9frwpqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43qzxthwden5te0wfjkccte9eeks6t5vehhycm99ehkuegprpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezucm0d9hxvatwvshxzursy4dly7 account, paid in #lightning

It was so simple, no email, no names, no phone number, no shitcoin, just a random number for the account. The same goes for the payment.

That's how I see the success of freedom tech ! A business system can work while preserving freedom and be completely anonymous. 👏🥸

vpn.sovereign.engineering

#freedom #freedomtech #vpn #mullvad #mullvadvpn
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Today I created a nostr:nprofile1qqsdru78zcu6uwa6zlludjx7k87m8ft9q6e5jgsn6qe49rxzj9frwpqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43qzxthwden5te0wfjkccte9eeks6t5vehhycm99ehkuegprpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezucm0d9hxvatwvshxzursy4dly7 account, paid in #lightning

It was so simple, no email, no names, no phone number, no shitcoin, just a random number for the account. The same goes for the payment.

That's how I see the success of freedom tech ! A business system can work while preserving freedom and be completely anonymous. 👏🥸

#freedom #freedomtech #vpn #mullvad #mullvadvpn
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Wen Cashu-native zaps?
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Can accomplish the same thing without the shitcoin:

https://vpn.sovereign.engineering/


Lightning = clearing house
eCash = tip jar


Constantly


Best way to gift Bitcoin, go!

#asknostr


I mean... *Gestures broadly*


Happy Friday, Freaks ☕🤘


Dang spoke too soo...

https://i.nostr.build/lLqL7.jpg


Can't say for sure, but so far so good!  Will keep ya posted on this thread if I see it pop up again. Thanks again!


I have inbox.nostr.wine as my DM inbox relay


Np! Ty! And this part is 100% anecdotal but it seems to be happening more often on 0.88. Can't say for sure, might totally be a coincidence. But is happening more often today than it has previously.


Interestingly (and thanks to adding the npub to the message) I can see I am now getting these for that Nostr wall account which I removed from amethyst quite a while ago. So it seems amethyst is still attempting to auth with an account that is no longer configured in the app 🤔

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If someone else is producing the energy, it *can't* be free.

Energy production, regardless of how efficient, requires capital expenditure and time.  If it's not your capital expenditure and time, you have to pay for it.  Unless you're cool with theft and/or slavery


It is if you generate it.


Good time to open channel 🤙


## Overview of ECC
Elliptic Curve Cryptography (ECC) is a form of public key cryptography that offers higher security with smaller key sizes compared to traditional systems like RSA. ECC is based on the mathematics of elliptic curves, which provide a more secure foundation due to the difficulty of solving the elliptic curve discrete logarithm problem[1].

## Applications of ECC
ECC is widely used in various applications, including:
- Protecting internal communications for the U.S. government.
- Ensuring anonymity in the Tor project.
- Proving ownership of bitcoins.
- Providing signatures in Apple's iMessage service.
- Encrypting DNS information with DNSCurve.
- Authenticating secure web browsing over SSL/TLS[1].

## Mathematical Foundation
An elliptic curve is defined by the equation $$ y^2 = x^3 + ax + b $$. The security of ECC relies on the difficulty of the elliptic curve discrete logarithm problem, which is significantly harder to solve than the factoring problem used in RSA. This makes ECC a more secure option for cryptographic systems[1].

## Advantages of ECC
- **Smaller Key Sizes**: ECC can achieve the same level of security as RSA with much smaller key sizes. For example, a 256-bit key in ECC is considered as secure as a 3072-bit key in RSA.
- **Performance**: ECC operations are faster and require less computational power, making them suitable for devices with limited resources, such as mobile phones.
- **Energy Efficiency**: ECC is more energy-efficient, which is crucial for battery-powered devices[1].

## Challenges and Concerns
- **Random Number Generation**: ECC requires a good source of entropy for generating keys. Poor randomness can lead to vulnerabilities, as seen in some implementations on Android and PlayStation.
- **Standardization and Trust**: There have been concerns about the standardization process, particularly with the Dual Elliptic Curve Deterministic Random Bit Generator (Dual_EC_DRBG), which was suspected of having a backdoor. This has led to a general distrust of some NIST standards supported by the NSA[1].

## Future of ECC
Despite some challenges, ECC is seen as the future of public key cryptography. It is supported by all modern browsers, and many certification authorities offer elliptic curve certificates. Cloudflare, for instance, uses ECC to provide perfect forward secrecy and plans to allow customers to upload their own elliptic curve certificates[1].

In summary, ECC offers a more secure and efficient alternative to traditional cryptographic systems like RSA, making it a critical technology for the future of secure communications.

Citations:
[1] A (Relatively Easy To Understand) Primer on Elliptic Curve Cryptography https://blog.cloudflare.com/a-relatively-easy-to-understand-primer-on-elliptic-curve-cryptography


But that's mint data, not user data, no?


What metadata?


Heartbreaking photo. Sending you and your family prayers 🫂


LND Versions Prior to v0.17.0 Vulnerable to LND Onion Bomb DoS Attack

"If you are running an LND release older than this, your funds are at risk! Update to at least v0.17.0 to protect your node."

https://www.nobsbitcoin.com/lnd-versions-prior-to-v0-17-0-vulnerable-to-lnd-onion-bomb-dos-attack/


Talent personified


Beautiful pup


eh they should be allowed to, but they shouldn't be required to.  Freedom of association and all that.


Yet we inflate balloons to celebrate occasions and throw parties.  Check mate, Guy.


AI at the edge is our only hope.


There is the innate incentive to do the moral/ethical thing.  But also publicly shaming relays that don't attempt to block that kind of content would create a economic and social incentive (assuming running a relay is economically motivated, which likely isn't the case today).


Relay tech stacks have to build a solution here...  Or we have to start publicly shaming relays that host that kind of content (whether intentional or not).  This issue will only grow if ignored.


Is there anyway to check on or estimate how long a force closure is going to take?  Have one on day 6 of pending and getting a bit antsy...

#asknostr #lightning #forceclose


Is there anyway to check on or estimate how long a force closure is going to take?  Have one on day 6 of pending and getting a antsy...

#asknostr #lightning #forceclose


Push notifications by far


I hardly count my "contribution" as a contribution, but still very cool seeing my name on this list. Kinda feels like I was accidentally let into a room with a bunch of my heros 😁

https://i.nostr.build/POQwn.jpg


In case ya missed it, OpenAI appointed the former head of the NSA to their board of directors:
https://openai.com/index/openai-appoints-retired-us-army-general/


At a nicotine dolls concert in Chelsea. Who's at @pubkey ?


Ah I see.  There are always rotten apples. But ideologically, I disagree.


I highly doubt that was the point the artist was trying to convey


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That new LSP smell


If Bitcoin was a democracy, it would've died long ago.


Damn cozy


:shakingeyes:


"Republican racism"

"gay Republicans like Peter Thiel, who vote in their economic interests despite it being against their safety and the advancement of the gay community"

Are some oddly hyper-partisan generalizations to make in a post against partisanism.


Welcome back!


Remove the 🥜


VOLT, A NEW OPEN SOURCE BITCOIN WALLET BY  nostr:npub1sn0q3zptdcm8qh8ktyhwtrnr9htwpykav8qnryhusr9mcr9ustxqe4tr2x SEEMS INCREDIBLY PROMISING.

https://cdn.satellite.earth/d6f24842ba7209155ea918b050083a2ff2d16f298b1dbae39a8ee65d88d7aecb.png

https://github.com/Zero-1729/volt


nostr:npub14mcddvsjsflnhgw7vxykz0ndfqj0rq04v7cjq5nnc95ftld0pv3shcfrlx nostr:npub1h8nk2346qezka5cpm8jjh3yl5j88pf4ly2ptu7s6uu55wcfqy0wq36rpev we need a podcast with a big brain talking about the short, medium, long term implications of this.

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All good!


Source?


/filter balance
/inbox balance
/translate balance
/cellar balance

Can view them all with a /help to Wino [Bot]


Hey nostr:npub18kzz4lkdtc5n729kvfunxuz287uvu9f64ywhjz43ra482t2y5sks0mx5sz, every now and then I get the below popup in #amethyst which seems to be a message from inbox relay telling me I attempted to read but don't have credit. But when I check my balance it shows I'm paid up till October.  Any ideas?

https://i.nostr.build/eZ8e2.jpg


Interestingly #amethyst also renders it but only shows the recipient and not the zapper. Same same but different 😜

https://i.nostr.build/Z5Bmk.jpg


I continue to work on my hedgehog protocol and I've figured out how to add some cool features to it. I wrote a "bridge server" which helps "translate" hedgehog payments into lightning payments, and it works right now, which means a hedgehog wallet can pay regular lightning invoices. I also added support for something I call "unilateral channels."

What that means is, someone can be fully offline, not even talking to you, not even aware of you, and if you have their pubkey you can send them $100 in bitcoin (for example) in such a way that they "receive" it in a new hedgehog channel. You just use their pubkey to create a multisig and fund it with the $100, then send them a string of text containing signatures for the "force closure" transactions that they need in case they have to unilaterally exit from the multisig. Then, whenever they next get online, they can paste that string into their wallet and instantly start using the money in their (already confirmed!) new hedgehog channel to make hedgehog payments and lightning payments.

You you could also use the unilateral channel feature to "make up" a bunch of keypairs, get some business cards, print out channel opening/closing information on the business cards (using the pubkeys from each of the keypairs you made up to create the multisigs), fund the multisigs yourself, and then "gift" them to people by just handing them the business card. Each recipient gets a new, prefunded hedgehog wallet with full support for sending and receiving lightning payments, with two simple steps: (1) visit a webpage (or download an app) that runs hedgehog wallet software and (2) scan the qr code to import the channel data.

All of these features have some interesting side effects. For example, since you can receive money into a new hedgehog channel without being online, you can keep your private keys fully offline in an airgapped hardware wallet, and whenever you want to send money over hedgehog or lightning, you can just prepare the transaction in your software wallet, encode it as a series of several psbts, pass those to your hardware wallet for signing, and let your software wallet send the newly signed transactions to the bridge server.

You could also *receive* money over lightning into a separate hot wallet, and regularly withdraw it to a cold hedgehog wallet by using your hardware wallet to individually sign the various transactions that are involved in receiving lightning payments and revoking old state (but this requires implementing support for receiving lightning payments on hedgehog, which I haven't done yet -- see below).

I am currently working on a feature that I call "virtual channels" which allow you to make a unilateral channel without going on chain. This lets you cheaply give people hedgehog channels that "fully" work, with the tradeoff that you (the sender) have a copy of this virtual channel's private keys, so you have custody of the recipient's funds. But the channel works just like a regular hedgehog channel, with the same interface, its own balance, full support for sending and receiving hedgehog payments, and sending lightning payments. So it's sort of like you're hosting an lnbits wallet for someone, only with hedgehog's ability to effectively emulate asynchronous payments. Which means you don't need a server to host this software, a regular phone or even a web browser should work fine, because you don't need to be online all the time, only the bridge server does.

Once virtual channels are ready I want to add support for "receiving" lightning payments into a hedgehog channel. I wrote up a specification for it here (https://github.com/supertestnet/hedgehog-advanced) but I haven't implemented it yet. Once that is done I think hedgehog will be ready to implement in a "real" wallet. It will have so many cool features:

- keep your keys airgapped and still (a) send hedgehog payments (b) receive hedgehog payments (c) send lightning payments (d) regularly withdraw lightning payments from a "hot" wallet into .your airgapped hedgehog wallet without needing to do any base layer transactions

- if exchanges like kraken or swan add support for hedgehog, any user who has monthly or weekly autobuy enabled could receive these regular purchases of bitcoin directly into a hedgehog wallet -- hot or cold -- and be able to spend the money on lightning or hedgehog as soon as it confirms, without needing to come online til they want to actually spend the money

- if you are sending someone money and your recipient is *on*line, you can use a hedgehog wallet as a regular lightning wallet

- if your recipient is *not* online, you can pay them by making a unilateral channel for them on the base layer, and to do that you just need to be willing to pay a base layer tx fee and know one of their pubkeys (technically that part is optional, as you can just make up a keypair for them -- though I personally wouldn't trust a keypair that some rando made up for me and I would sweep all funds from such a channel whenever I next got online)

- if your recipient is not online and you don't want to incur a base layer fee, you can make a "virtual" (i.e. custodial) unilateral channel for them and deposit whatever amount you want to pay them into that. You can then send them its details and go offline, and they can sweep it whenever they next get online, without any further help from you (i.e. you don't need to be online when they sweep the funds! They just need the bridge server to be online)

- this emulates asynchronous lightning payments pretty effectively, without the need for the sender to run a server or rely on a third party custodian. But there is a "first party" custodian -- the sender retains custody of the funds in a virtual channel until the recipient sweeps them. And there is a third party bridge server, who can censor payments, though if that happens, the sender can just retry with a different bridge server and stop using the old one

- it also emulates "pull" payments, which are useful for subscriptions. If you want to subscribe to twelve months of bitflix, you can send bitflix twelve virtual channels where each one has a timelock on the virtual channel opening transaction. This effectively means that the first virtual channel cannot be used til 1 month goes by, the second one cannot be used til 2 months go by, etc. As each timelock expires once per month, a single virtual channel becomes usable each month. This allows bitflix to sweep funds from one channel per month, thus "pulling" pre-authorized funds from your wallet according to a predetermined schedule

- if you ever want to cancel such a subscription, just make a new transaction with the bridge server overwriting all the remaining virtual channels you gave to bitflix. The bridge server will then stop treating the virtual channels as valid, because they can no longer redeem the money in them even if it comes to their side of the virtual channel, so bitflix can't use them anymore either, and thus your subscription is effectively canceled

- all of this can work just fine today without waiting for bitcoin *or* lightning to upgrade -- which I think is just amazing!


Hey nostr:npub1tftc33ttam85wraffce62cgtvvjrmttquqlv6a0agtfm5nl4vues82xar5 your app doesn't work over VPN (Mullvad). Or rather, it does kinda work, but it seems only if Auth is cached or something. Once it stops working I have to disable VPN, open the app, then re-enabled the VPN


My understanding is that "compose", the portion where OpenAI integration exists, is totally optional and you have to opt in. The majority of what they showed (everything outside of compose) is not powered by OpenAI. And compose will support additional providers soon™


Not airing the first half of the Canadian GP so you can televise "Puerto Rican Day Parade" has to be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Who the hell watches parades on TV?  They're hardly entertaining in person.


Is mutiny.plus down?  My lightning address seems broken?

#mutiny #asknostr


Timely!

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One of America's best features are our lakes. Beautiful


I wanna make an untapped like app but on nostr


The amount of sms spam I get is unreal


Haha fair enough. I think you can just flash the same image to the SSD as if it was an SD card, but haven't tried personally


Ah yeaaa. They are very particular about power sources. Or probably just as particular as any computer, but can be powered by any crappy USB brick so they have to contend with shittier supplies more often.


Put the OS on the SSD then toss the SD card in the trash 😁


I mean, they're used alllll the time in industrial settings. As long as you use a high quality SSD (which is kind of required anyway) I don't think the reliability or durability is notably worse than other consumer grade hardware.


Opendimes scale transaction throughput infinitely


A Pi 5 is plenty powerful to run a node


Forgot to add the good part about micropayments.  While I don't think Bitcoin is practical for smaller micropayments right now, it will eventually be as storage and bandwidth costs continue to fall.  If Bitcoin catches on on a big scale, it may already be the case by that time.  Another way they can become more practical is if I implement client-only mode and the number of network nodes consolidates into a smaller number of professional server farms.  Whatever size micropayments you need will eventually be practical.  I think in 5 or 10 years, the bandwidth and storage will seem trivial.


👀 NWC?  Is that new?


Finally moved my IRA out of choice and into swan. Bitcoin only companies ftw. Feels good, man.

https://www.swanbitcoin.com/djs_btc


🏎🏁 “I smell a bit of smoke,” Verstappen reported from his RB20 as the hour headed towards its halfway point. With the Dutchman having safely gotten out of the car in the Red Bull garage
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/fp2-alonso-goes-fastest-while-verstappen-suffers-problems-during-rain.7tWFHb5YJhuN1ZbPDAbFpG

#GSC360 🌐 Your daily spin around the sports world 🔄 Where Every Angle Matters

#Sports | #Sportstr | #GameTime | #F1


500k people tuning into roaring kitty's live stream plus it being on CNBC/Fox business. Kinda madness only a dying empire/currency could fuel. https://i.nostr.build/PORXd.jpg


Strong fall of the Roman empire vibes today


An analogy:

For years, high-functioning drug addicts have played a game of drug-fueled musical chairs. The drugs are certainly killing them, but they hide the damage, spreading it to those around them, while enjoying the game and drugs. It's been great for the addicts and the dealer, but at everyone else's expense.

One day, a bystander, tired of only getting the externalized downsides, joins in. They're not a high-functioning addict; they play aggressively and take extra risks. They consume too many drugs. They break the rules the high-functioning addicts have agreed to and play against them. This pisses off the addicts and the dealer because it might end the game early.

GME is so fiat.


Yea playing with my relay list on the latest build inspired this... Don't get me wrong, I think it's super cool. But I can't imagine explaining this to someone after they've been used to "log into Facebook/x/Instagram".


Yea I just meant to read nostr:npub1u3jp6rhdw8fdps8k3nf4pr2slnd3j49vrnx6y6wahda8397zyc2qw7q7na's notes you don't have to pay


Relays are getting VERY complicated.  No normal, non-technical person will understand when, which, or why to use one relay over another and for which purpose.


15000 SATs to have write access. Almost all paid relays allow anyone to read.


Ngmtr: Notes and GMs transmitted by relays

GM everyone ☕


GM 🤙


GM

Hope you have an ABOVE AVERAGE day.


You are what the content discovery algorithms want you to be: angry and distracted.

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Np!


Make sure the drop down on top is set to "Global"


Anyone have a boat that I can accident?


Nsecs don't die, they become undead.


#amethyst pre-release has something interesting brewing 👀

https://i.nostr.build/BR5x0.jpg


Ah yeah your request to the DVM needs to be signed afaik so amethyst would need your private keys


Ah, thanks! I had a pending update 😁

This is super cool. Seem to be loading for me. Curious, are you using Amber by chance?


How do you even access a DVM in amethyst?


Did ya try coracle?  Definitely also an amethyst fanboy and prefer mobile, but coracle is pretttttty nice


https://www.pivpn.io/

So simple, anyone can do it


Custodial lightning has zero privacy and the ability for the custodian to rug individual users.

eCash is private and you can't rug an individual.

Extra steps might be worth it


pretty rad.  some good lessons to learn also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5IySpAkThg


dematerializing walled gardens is Nostr's and Lightning's killer app.


pretty confident that there are more people who are capable of running a LN node than there are people capable of bootstrapping a tradfi Venmo competitor.  Not to mention the reduced friction of "adopting" a new routing node (i.e. zero friction) vs adopting a new tradfi payments app.


You don't honestly think those are the same, right?

A) one is a completely free fee market on an open payment protocol with bearer asset finality

B) one is a highly regulated market of closed payment platforms layered on top of more highly regulated closed platforms/custodians

What's the friction for a user migrating from Venmo to Cash app? High and you have to convince your peers to make the switch also.

What the friction for a user when routing a LN payment through a different route?  Zero. You don't even know it's happening.

Thats one aspect, I could go on and on... They are not remotely similar.


Yup, because you or I could undercut those fees if we wanted to.


Who's misrepresenting its custody model?


that's the ticket


Are there Nostr / Meshtastic bridges?


2.5 Mohs is pretty soft... 😉


Coracle is looking soooo good.  Love the new feed filters page.
👏🏻 nostr:nprofile1qyd8wumn8ghj7urewfsk66ty9enxjct5dfskvtnrdakj7qguwaehxw309a5x7ervvfhkgtnrdaexzcmvv5h8gmm0d3ej7qg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t09uqsuamnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dshsqgyhcu9ygdn2v56uz3dnx0uh865xmlwz675emfsccsxxguz6mx8rygqg7ecc , well done dude.  This feels so modern.


Game theory https://image.nostr.build/a0e0a0f96ad82e79e73a7f5a96f476e29b2f8e3bdbe5d3e39d8acf26e66a7157.jpg


Gives Rich Men North of Richmond a whole nother vibe 🤙


Hear me out...

Tailscale but coordinated over Nostr rather than a centralized infra


Nostr: The apex nat hole punch

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I always go back to nova beta... Not sure why, it's kinda buggy sometimes, but it's just so damn customizable


Filter --> fedimint


Only a real girl would say that


First person to post a pic of #amethyst running on a nostr:npub1a00wj229auzjswlq4s77y4u8eqdx5k9ppatgl8rtv8va65f6mwksum9q3h wins


How on earth do they maintain this crazy pace of innovation. Truly impressive 🚀


Very cool, testing this now. Would be super slick if citrine could handle the broadcast-once-online scenario. Or maybe that'd be functionality better handled client side; something like "mark this relay as local" then the client knows what to do once it's back online


Test 🤙


No clue haha saw the headline, didn't read, came here to be snarky about it 😁


Oh thank God, Metamask is finally adding Bitcoin support.  I can finally rest easy


Schrodinger's Note

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✅
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Bell Labs, represent


Sonnenshein?  More like Sonnenset


hope I'm not too late... is this item still available?


maybe something like coracles WoT score?  Idk either, def an interesting question


Wow I am humbled, this was really unexpected. First off, I'd like to thanks my parents...

https://i.nostr.build/2RqP5.jpg

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one less tyrant 👏


good morning!


Today is going to be spicy 🚀


NEW: RoninDojo, the official hardware partners of Samourai Wallet, release their first statement since the arrest of the Samourai founders.

They are restructuring their team, retiring the Tanto hardware, and will instead focus on software to “further empower Bitcoiners to be sovereign individuals.” https://image.nostr.build/3c7a60a92dabe6ef220fceb820112c2980f7e997ab3b2e7ce3dbcd94772212f9.jpg


Some opinions are unpopular for good reason.

Like it being healthy to eat concrete or that alligators make good house pets.


Remember, if you purchased 2 pizzas on or around May 18th 2010, you could have skipped the pizzas and purchased roughly 10k BTC instead

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Out here transmitting money


6x Mutiny --> Mutiny ✅


I'm starting to think the Federal Reserve might be a problematic institution.


gm and pv 🤙

https://m.primal.net/IHgD.jpg


Nope nope nope


I'm starting to think Biden might not be entirely "with it"


Ethereum's proof of stake allows for running malicious validators to add tampered transactions on a blockchain.

Without #Bitcoin and its proof of work, there is no credibility in a monetary system.

https://image.nostr.build/42923ad7399431886faf2f4200b121dbb869ba7c59ad1c14dbd18746df0a4cf9.jpg


🍲 meet 🫖


lmao weird thing to say about the first cryptocurrency


GM

eCash is a really really big deal and I can't stop thinking about it.


Cool

https://github.com/TwentyTwoHW

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Been meaning to migrate, I guess now's a good time

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Incredible 👏


Bug protein


Not gonna lie that hardware is kinda cool. Just gotta get the block height and hash rate and 👌


 nostr:npub1nz64zngcqm8vj8nhrdkcjpfwn2rcaqysnxec88tqfclp5afrpglsqm0w5y crew, just opened a 20k sat #bounty feature request: https://github.com/vitorpamplona/amethyst/issues/852
This will improve the UX for folks using not-always-online NWC wallets such as  nostr:npub1mutnyacc9uc4t5mmxvpprwsauj5p2qxq95v4a9j0jxl8wnkfvuyque23vg


That's a lot of 🌽

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/investment-firm-discloses-over-1-8-billion-in-bitcoin-etf-holdings-in-sec-filing


Close our eyes to what? 😅


I am using NWC. Mutiny can only process requests if it's open. Amethyst's UI is not designed to have "pending" zaps. Having them both open allows NWC to work in a non-broken UX way


I just don't agree with the classifications of "flaws" and/or "abuse".  Both are misleading and inaccurate.

They insinuate something was promised and not delivered or that something is broken.

When your client publishes unencrypted data to a relay, that information is public.  People will consume, query, and datamine public information you publish to the internet.  That's no more a flaw than "if you scream something out your window, your neighbors might listen". It's just the reality of the activity your engaging in.

On Nostr, I decide what I want to scream out my window. The decision isn't made for me by some mega-corp.


I do run a relay. I'm only giving them the data that I want to be public. It's night and day different. I don't think you understand how much an app like TikTok or Facebook spy on you...


Feature not a bug (speaking very selfishly 😀)


It does, but personally the NWC experience between amethyst and Mutiny is less than ideal... For example, you'll click zap and the progress bar partially fills but never completes (because it's waiting for payment confirmation) and Mutiny only pays zap requests when it's open. Then if you scroll that process bar goes away and it's hard to keep track of what notes I've requested a zaps on.  Having mutiny split screen makes those requests process much quicker.

A nice feature for amethyst would be if they got rid of those zap progress rings and replaced them with zap icons of different colors?  Maybe yellow could mean we've made the zap request, then it can turn green once the zap recipe is seen. Just an idea cc: nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z


The article is about the projects Jack is or isn't involved with. It's not about the scale of those projects. It's weird.


Run amethyst and Mutiny Wallet in split screen for a much nicer one-tap-zap experience

#nostrtips #tips
 https://i.nostr.build/mlZ07.jpg


So strange that this article doesn't even think to mention Nostr...

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Bitcoin fixes thi... Oh wait 😅


In retrospect…

Mystic “DAN” was always going to win the Kentucky Derby at 17-1 odds….

There are no coincidences. https://image.nostr.build/40f7958d32387ec425699c726fc77a051ca4c6b6846baade0f6f759dc9b55d29.jpg


No what?  No it's not easier to control what's made public?


It's way easier to control what is made public on Nostr.


All good. Just want to make sure passerbys understand there is a massive data sovereignty difference between close sourced, centralized platforms and Nostr. It's night and day.

People selling your public data farmed off nostr relays is not the same as what takes place on something like Gmail, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok.

You're in the driver seat on Nostr. On the others you're more like a doped up passenger in the backseat.


It means literally everything.  I know the notes that I'm signing, making public, and posting to relays. That's the entire point.  On closed platforms you have zero control over that process.


No, idts.  Name the platform and they are farming additional data from you without your knowledge (location, DMs, etc). On most platforms I might think something is private, but it's actually being sold to advertisers. That's only possible on Nostr with closed source clients that do shady things.


Interesting 🤔


If I make something public, can't be mad if someone uses that information 🤷♂.  Beauty of nostr is that I have full control over what I make public 😎


Anything interesting in the developers console?


I love myself and money is a representation of my effort and time. It gets gross when that money is totally corrupted, creating power structures that *require* fraud.

"Fiat money is the root of most evil."


https://21lessons.com/vr/

How have I never seen this?! So cool


Lmao I'm actually really impressed. What a badass