That's so strange. Do you use any other client? I wonder if clients are saving to different relays and not syncing up. So, you follow 14 people in one, but the other doesn't update and you follow over there. Now the first gets an update event with 14 less follows.
Today's P2P Nostr using phone-running Relays trough Tor in production apps (works with no hacks) will be remembered as a key milestone in Nostr's history.
Last year, I coded many hole punch designs to test P2P DMs on Amethyst. Many somewhat worked but with centralized constraints and huge maintenance costs.
Now Orbot and Citrine just come in, show a few buttons and boom. Done. 😎
People using Amethyst over Tor, do you perceive any slowdown when loading things?
Tor is technically a lot slower, but I can't see any difference when browsing on Amethyst.
If no one notices, maybe we should enable this by default.
I name this for the post of the year.
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Citrine is a relay on the phone by nostr:nprofile1qqs827g8dkd07zjvlhh60csytujgd3l9mz7x807xk3fewge7rwlukxgpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgswaehxw309ahx7um5wghx6mmd9usjfpck
In this way, the DM goes from my phone to his phone without anyone seeing it. But if people get access to his private key AND the DM event, they can decrypt it.
And that is the same design of Signal and others: You have to have both the seed/key and the local database to decrypt.
That's a story for nostr:nprofile1qqswmdrsyuff0tz6v8e80u7dzn09f3n7khxdyrhsm80jn0scdpdmqpqpf9mhxw309akrx6tevf4xjmt50f6r26rcx3unyamtxcery6r8we6ngc34vd6xs7ttd4jx7e3jdymx5vmhx4kxyurwvf5rwaen09jzummwd9hkuw358qmrjtcpg3mhxw309ahhsarjv3jhvctkxc685d35093rw7pkwf4xwdrww3a8z6ngv4jx6dtzx4ax5ut4d36kw6mwdpa8ydpkdeunyutzv9jzummwd9hkutcmkq3ed to tell.
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When you think about how the Internet is just networks allowing trusted computers into their network, it's petty shocking to see how far we have scaled this. It's the ultimate pyramid scheme.
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The robot icon close to NB is somebody else's phone!! Connecting directly from mine. nostr:nprofile1qqswmdrsyuff0tz6v8e80u7dzn09f3n7khxdyrhsm80jn0scdpdmqpqpf9mhxw309akrx6tevf4xjmt50f6r26rcx3unyamtxcery6r8we6ngc34vd6xs7ttd4jx7e3jdymx5vmhx4kxyurwvf5rwaen09jzummwd9hkuw358qmrjtcmlnu7y https://image.nostr.build/87e304ed7da71f7a7f18add772dfdd09e152dc287633b3b96ae0a6db1662872f.jpg
You have to turn on Orbot and add the recommended relays to your General list to see this though.
Amethyst doesn't automatically connect to unknown relays.
How to run Citrine's relay on your phone and allow other people to connect into it to download your posts directly from your phone via Tor 🤯🤯
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How to run Citrine's relay on your phone and allow other people to connect into it to download your posts directly from your phone via Tor 🤯🤯
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I would still be trying to make DIDs work. Fuck that.
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Everytime I hear Brian Armstrong, I feel like he is trapped in 2018. He still talks about blockchaining everything (land, votes, tickets, etc) as if none of these things have been tried and failed miserably.
I don't know what you mean by meritocracy. Those involved in the project will already what they want to do. So, any merit is already been accounted for and by themselves. The only other merit is to those that donate to the project and deserve to be at least listened to.
It doesn't work. There are so many ideas on what we should do (every user has a few) that it is impossible to even gather them all. I try my best, but I don't see most of the Amethyst-related discussion out there.
I would still be trying to make DIDs work. Fuck that.
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Your inbox and outbox relays are for your followers, not for you.
I know, 🤯
The list tells your followers where to get your posts. Not where your app should send/receive yours.
So, the smaller the list the better.
Your app should have an additional setting, separate from the Inbox/outbox setup, where you can add extra relays to save your posts, in addition to the inbox and outbox relays.
So, if you want to send/receive to 30 relays... fine. But don't ask your followers to download/send from 30 relays for each person they follow.
That's not cool.
You can publish to as many relays you want, but ideally you should tell your followers to look for your events in one or two a reliable datasets so they don't need to search within your 100 relays for your posts. 1-2 relays are more than enough for a follower.
Searching in 10s of relays for each follower is a huge battery and data plan drain.
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