Sometimes it reminds me more of this other scene with a logo in a circle.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_9670678063041561581710975834.webp


It does say "stacking skills" in my profile.

Unfortunately all yours has is a Bitcoin address.


You may find the contract unfulfilled, it's certainly something real people do.


Yeah any such numbers metric will easily be gamed.


Same with nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn . I try to trigger him with absolutely absurd questions like what does the Bible say on jaywalking and he goes and makes a serious effort to properly answer that.


This guy's notes are too rational and level headed to properly lampoon him.

Can't he pull a nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc once in a while and post something like "LOL TEH BITCOIN WOWZERS" so that I have something to pick on.

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Every npub on nostr is as real as the next one. You may prefer to follow one, that doesn't make the other one "fake".


"Web of trust" is some sort of buzzword only. It can mean anything and everything.


There is also a larger problem here. Your thinking revolves around isolated, single responsitories. But the open source world has repositories referring to one another.

Example: https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/blob/stable/cabal.project #L34

The whole chain of repositories must be decentralized and highly available. This is the problem I have to solve.


> Currently if there are multiple people who claim the same repository and they don't list the others as 'maintainers', gitworkshop.dev uses the one with the most references in other events. If they do, the event with the most recent created_at timestamp is used.

Whatever consensus protocol you come up with must also work decentralized. Gitworkshop.dev is centralized.


Better earlier than later. Duh.

> If someone tries to game this, the intention is to add web of trust into this.

I believe that when I see that.


Is that some kind of Jet Engineer.


Maybe ... I think this needs to be figured out and baked into the system. Don't leave solving the hard part to the user if that's what you head in mind.


Drop it.

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Woke got triggered #win

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Yeah nah this gossip idea isn't great and will scale even more poorly than DHT.


There isn't a problem with chunking and deduplication.

Blossom, nostr and the likes only work if there's a few dozen servers/relays.

That's not decentralized enough.


Totally.

I've been posting food porn and will keep doing so. My home cooking isn't very "instagrammable" though so only if I go out for dinner.

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Sorry, "multiple" and "authoritative" are contradictions in terms.

I know Linux has multiple branches but each branch only has one state.

If both you and I push commits to branch "foo" which one is the correct "foo".

I don't think you've thought this through.


I think the whole thing is above and beyond the competence of nostr devs and they should just abandon it.

Decentralized systems are hard.

The apparent simplicity of the current nostr is what appeals to the peasants here.

The next level of decentralized social network will come out of a different corner of the Internet and likely even be called something different entirely.


If there's an authoritative state it has to be centralized somehow.

If there isn't an authoritative state then there has to be a consensus mechanism and I don't see one.


The peasants are smitten

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Ok. Yeah fine go ahead figure it out. I need the complete solution though so back to the drawing board for me.


That's what I thought was happening but tbh I can't be bothered investigating further.


What are these things they never allowed you to do.


We usually just get strippers for that.


Actually ...
Maybe you're right? There isn't a note that's missing, it's just rendered incorrectly??


Holy wow! Turns out you can buy as much with ETH as you can buy with BTC: Nothing.


It's Plebstr. Yes I will upgrade to the new Openvibe soon. I think it's not related to nesting, it can't find the missing note on any relay? I have like 20 or so including all the ones Amethyst comes with.


For anything. Kademlia is a dead end.


Not at all, the project has fully maxed out the whole potential of the idea.

Now the idea people behind IPFS have run out of ideas because Kademlia is all they can think of.


Btw this is how this thread appears in my client.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_3536775497630935901710957725.webp


Ok the "collaboration side" is like issues and PRs?


*doesn't scale well


Fixing that git helper should be easy, however before you invest too much in IPFS, beware its DHT is poorly designed and IPFS as whole scale well.


Deceivingly simple means it appeals to peasants.


How dare you run late with this. The boss @jack is onto you! Work faster to please him.


His shtick of playing the common people's buddy here is hilarious.

Being an unskilled peasant is what makes him fit into the crowd.


Distributed systems engineering isn't in your league is it.


Also Ed25519 can't do DH so it can't be used for encryption, whereas secp256k1 does signature and DH.

Isn't that ill-concieved DM scheme relying on secp256k1 DH.

There are ways to convert an Ed25519 key into an X25519 key for DH, libsodium has something there, but just saying.


Because Bitcoin runs on secp256k1 and that makes it holy.


nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m are you a rich man


Oh my so much doubt and confusion.

Those with skills are welcome in our fiat world where we do a reasonably good job at measuring the value of time.

It is currently valued at about 5%/year across the whole economy. You're welcome.

Unskilled hicks stay out.


Bitcoin fixes this? Don't disappoint me here.


Seems like reinventing IPFS.


Thanks just checking how much Bitcoin do I actually need to own before I'm considered having fully understood it?

Is 1 sat enough? That can be arranged for.


Absolutely correct, good job pointing it out.

What we need here is some form of repudiation of notes, so that you can later say "I never wrote that". It's effectively deletion.

One way is that you can limit the time your notes/posts are valid. Each note will be signed by a temporary key that's valid for, say, a week. The temporary key in turn will be signed by your permanent key which is your identity.

After a week you publish the secret key to your temporary key. This will dissociate any note you signed with the temporary key from your identity because now everyone could have written and signed it.

Then you generate a new temporary key for the next week. I would expect relays to purge expired notes on a regular basis because what's the point of a note without an associated identity.

If you want your notes to be valid for longer than a week you'll have to re-sign them each week with the current temp key. There can be good UX and automation to make this easy.


Bitcoin will fix this? Don't disappoint me here.


Cointards running in circles because their currency isn't stable, never will be.

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€50? I thought it was Bitcoin?


I'm in a circular fiat economy just fine thanks.


We should have apps for that.


"per se"?

 https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/per_se


The possibility of refunds or invoices creates financial risk on one side or the other which is what we wanted to avoid in the first place.

The only way you can financially plan ahead is with a stable currency, the more stable the better. Bitcoin is fundamentally unable to achieve that, the best we have today is central bank fiat from civilized countries.

If you want to design your own possibly "more digital" finance scheme you'd have to design it "stability first".


Much to the detriment of the fake news Bit-cons use to appeal to peasants, central banks cannot print money just willy nilly. In Zimbabwe maybe, not in a civilized country.

There are rules there, the most important one is that "money is lent into existence" meaning freshly printed money is handed out as a loan, not a free gift.

Because loans can be demanded to be paid back and as such reduce the money supply. The interest rate on those loans also limits the amount of money borrowed and as such, printed.


@simplex also has a similar thing called XFTP


Yes IPFS computes a hash, even though it's a bit involved so the hash won't be the same as Blossom's or what sha256sum tells you.

Lack of a DHT is a big one. IPFS's DHT is what they claim makes it scale ("interplanetary" lol) but it's poorly designed and doesn't actually scale well. You'll find lots of timeouts and "content not found" even though the content it out there somewhere.


Do you put them in a little shrine.


No, they take it away from OTHER people that's fine.


nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj got so nervous about this he started calling his customer "wet wipe". I wonder whether it's helping.


FYI some customer testimonials from nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s 's and nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj 's businesses.

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You must be new to Bitcoin


No idea but maybe this wisdom from Gigi below can help with this? Not that I understand it but it sounds terribly profound.

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Oooh 🍬🍭🍫


https://libgen.is/search.php?req=Lyn+Alden+broken+money+&lg_topic=libgen&open=0&view=simple&res=25&phrase=1&column=def

^^ just to convince oneself that it's a pile of crap


I think Venus is in alignment with Jupiter today and therefore there is more Chakra in your lay lines.

Or something like that.

Oh and buy Bitcoin, right?


Christmas came early this year 🎄🎄🎄

Will check this out soon.


But the prices change every day???


Bypassing the intellectual journey sounds like just the right thing to do for someone of your intellectual caliber.


Read "Atlas Shrugged" if you believe real estate is safe.


Skills are your best store of value.


This is cool.


Ah the Horatio Alger of the 21st century.

The success rate of his "4000" start-ups is suspiciously kept in the dark.

If examined under day light it would probably reveal a wasteland of skeletons of those that exhausted themselves trying.


Just one example of many.

I'll feast on your bones when you die.


Here's how that's been going

https://www.history.com/topics/great-depression/great-depression-history


Absolutely correct.

No Bitcoin company is viable and never will be.

As for pegging the Bitcoin price to a dollar value, you don't have a reliable income stream in Bitcoin then. A Bitcoin company is only a Bitcoin company if it earns in Bitcoin and holds it to pay suppliers in Bitcoin later.

Pay and be paid, money goes in circles. However as a business you need to have a somewhat reliable, predictable income stream. If the electricity bill is due in 3 months will you have earned enough to pay it? Like that. You don't have to be a "business", every regular employed Joe has to plan like that.

If you constantly adjust your Bitcoin price to whatever the dollar value demands you can't predict your Bitcoin income well enough. The only option you have then is to immediately convert it to dollars on reception and pay your suppliers in dollar.

But then you're not a Bitcoin business anymore. You're just a dollar business that pretends to be a Bitcoin business as a marketing gimmick. You will hold dollars instead and then it's back to worrying about the stability of the dollar which you wanted to avoid in the first place. 99% of so-called Bitcoin businesses are that. It's make-believe to suck the money out of a few starry eyed and not so clever Bitcoin dreamers.

That's why I keep asking questions like that and usually not getting an answer because the answer would be rather ugly:

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About "too much specialization".

Joseph Tainter has a book on the Collapse of Civilizations. It's hard to deduce, from the rubble of say the Roman Empire or Easter Island, what made them fail but his theory is that there is a recurring theme of too much specialization so you're possibly onto something there.


Gaah. "are content with making a living"


> the capitalist arms race where something seems to come from nothing

The bugs in our system that let some live at other people's expenses (it doesn't come from nothing, the paths are just too convoluted to identify the victims) are very appealing so everyone's pining for it.

Not everyone equally though don't be mistaken. A lot of people, myself included, aren't content with "making a living" and devoting any surplus time and energy to creativity, honing skills, self-realization and the like.

The aggressively capitalistic ones ("look! got me another investment property!!") are usually those that, according to their own self assessment, can't compete on talent and skill and are therefore feeling perennially insecure and desperate.

This includes most Bitcoiners, who, other than Bitcoin, have nothing to talk about. The skilled people, in the other hand, will talk your ear off about their latest creation and what have you. You can usually tell the one from the other in about 30 seconds of conversation only.


jb55 and Semisol are attempting to offer services priced in Bitcoin, and also keep the price in Bitcoin stable.

Further more, these services are somewhat "buy ahead", where you pay now and receive the service later, sometimes even a year later.

That's fair enough, like newspapers will give you a sometimes massive discount if you subscribe for a year ahead because having that money allows them to plan ahead, it's some financial security.

But recently the value of Bitcoin has been going up, and that's been creating the expectation that it'll go up even more. Nothing wrong with that either, if the economy of Bitcoin-priced services is growing against a largely constant money supply that's a fair expectation.

But now you have the deflation trap. jb55's customers were happy to subscribe last month for $5 equivalent but now it's $10 equivalent and they consider dropping.

Semisol would like customers to pay $50 equivalent in advance now for next year's service, but this amount of Bitcoin might be worth $100 or $500 next year, so why spend it now? Better to keep it and spend it next year and get so much more for it.

Small-time Bitcoiners are typically financially stable enough from fiat income that they can afford to just buy Bitcoin and keep it the same way that they could spend it on collecting Beanie Babies to put on a shelf if they wanted to. They don't need to spend it on food or other urgent stuff. So they don't spend.

You don't get an economy going like that.


That's a somewhat metaphorically phrased question. We're architects of our own future.

We can create money that's stable and that avoids lopsided distribution. The 20% that have 80% (how Pareto worded it, in reality it's already much much worse) aren't "blessed" as if it was chance that they have their fortune. It's coded in the algorithm of the system so to speak and we can rewrite the code as we like.

Silvio Gesell's ideas of demurrage are a good start, but of course he lived 100 years ago and didn't have Internet. He thought of reforming the central bank but in his world there would still be a central bank. We can do even better.

The shortcomings of today's fiat system are a result of it being a quasi monopoly. The answer to any monopoly is normally markets and competition, everyone holds each other in check and quality is high and price low. Why don't we have a market of fiat currencies then. We'll hold the one's that have the best reputation for being stable. Stable issuers are rewarded by receiving demurrage fees similar to interest.

This would cause an amount of computational overhead when buying and selling as a multitude of exchange rates will have to be taken account. In Gesell's time this would have been impractical, but my phone now has 100x the power of a Cray-2 supercomputer from 1986 so we're good.

This all is however bad news if you don't have skills. An unskilled person, if they manage to somehow end up on the receiving end of a lopsided distribution, as unlikely as that is, could and will use their position to their advantage and just live at other's expenses.

Any other arrangement like the one I'm proposing above will lead to a competition in skills. Including skills of warfare and the like. These can get very brutal very soon as Earth's resources are becoming scarce and climate change fucks things up.

I think I'm fine with skills and the risk of lopsided distributions causing financial collapse and starvation outweighs everything else. Up to you.


Correct about the king holding 100% but don't worry about it because things will go South long before that.

The difference between the king holding 50% and holding 95% doesn't matter, 10 times the amount of an abstract unit is still an abstract unit. It's like feet vs. meters.

The change in the unit matters though. With the king accumulating gold, or Saylor accumulating Bitcoin or tech companies accumulating dollars, money is withdrawn from circulation and everyone has to recalibrate their yard stick a.k.a. prices. This causes confusion in the system and interrupts the flow of goods and services. You can literally starve with all the grain in the fields.

Just ask dimwits like nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj  or nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s who are losing customers because of a recent recalibration of the ratio of money supply to services offered. They could have asked those questions beforehand but hey despair can be overwhelming and impact your reasoning.


Quite the opposite, the natural tendency for any asset that's not naturally depreciating (money, property, ...) is for it too all end up in the hands of a few.

The reason is that the best strategy is to always acquire and never spend. Anyone ever played the monopoly game knows this.

However when people are forced to spend, like buying a house to live, the poor people are at a disadvantage. Rich people already have everything and can just time the market wait for the best moment with the lowest price. Poor people need to buy right then and there otherwise they'll sleep under a bridge.

We all know that poor people e.g. buy lower quality stuff like cheap clothes, used cars etc. that are actually more expensive in the long run, just because they can't wait to accumulate enough money for the good durable things. It works like that with a shirt and it works like that with acquiring a billion dollar business.

All the artificially durable assets like money and property will end up in the hands of a few, and we already today have 1% of the population owning 50% of the stuff or something like that.

This is why some amount of inflation counteracts this phenomenon to some extent, an actual demurrage on money would be much better. Same with property. Silvio Gesell writes about it in his book on the Natural Economic Order.

So abandon your ideas of passive income and generational wealth. They are bugs in the system. It's much more likely you'll be on the short end of that stick e.g. by starving in a financial crisis than be one of the lucky few on the receiving end.


With email that's kind of how it works today and I don't see how nostr isn't going to go the same way.


Concur. And moonshine.


For a Bitcoiner you think a bit too much and ask too many questions.


Money owned, if it's absolutely never spent, doesn't matter. If it really just sits in a safe somewhere it's as if it doesn't exist in the first place.

The amount of money in circulation matters. However with someone owning a lot there is a risk of them suddenly putting it in circulation and thus suddenly changing the amount of money in circulation. This will cause prices to fluctuate causing price instability. Up or down doesn't matter.

This isn't an abstract problem btw. Fiat currently has problems that are similar. https://www.investors.com/etfs-and-funds/sectors/sp500-companies-stockpile-1-trillion-cash-investors-want-it/

This goes both ways btw, someone being owed a lot of money ("owning" a large negative sum) can suddenly demand loans to be paid back and thus suddenly withdraw a lot of money from circulation with prices again fluctuating. I believe the financial crisis in the USA in the 30's was caused that way.

This is why you need demurrage on money, according to Silvio Gesell's writings. It discourages stockpiling. You'll have to abandon dreams of generational wealth and other outgrowths of capitalism but it'll keep you from starving because of a financial crisis.


Amen brother.


Oooh. Is nathan_day your Twitter account? What's the shop? How much did it cost? Are the prices stable? Does the shop pay their suppliers in Bitcoin?


Try Android?


C'est pas vrai. 🐐


Ou d'autres pays tiers monde comme le Larzac. C'est pareil.

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Dont le plupart dans l'Afrique de l'Ouest. Ça te dit discuter l'élevage de chèvres?

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See there much better


Fuck let me redo this where is the edit button even.

nostr:npub1m4ny6hjqzepn4rxknuq94c2gpqzr29ufkkw7ttcxyak7v43n6vvsajc2jl joined nostr for free speech but when it arrived, she wasn't prepared


Also your friend below didn't answer my questions maybe you could step in and do it in his place?

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I think it started in 1995 (?) when SSL was invented so we could use credit cards online safely. I think Amazon was founded around that time too.


Make-believe artwork for make-believe money.


I be the fuck whatever I like.


Ou, tout simplement, apprendre l'Anglais, ça ne te dit pas?


nostr:npub1g7lqk25fl24xd0zh7hr8jgp5smdy2eszjh9nmv7z7w85h6xcs9hq4u8yd9 joines nostr for "free speech", but when it arrived she (?) wasn't prepared


PSA: All Gigi's are real. Maybe there's one you recommend for following but that doesn't make any other less legit. That's for everyone to decide for themselves.


That's not how it works. There are no "fake" usernames because everyone can choose theirs as they like and it's theirs just for the choosing.

Maybe one of the two Lyn Alden's isn't the one you want to follow but let everyone decide for themselves.


Bitcoin is a pissing contest. You joined it but you're not winning so suddenly you don't like the rules.


As an added bonus, that works for Android apps too.

nostr:npub1exv22uulqnmlluszc4yk92jhs2e5ajcs6mu3t00a6avzjcalj9csm7d828 sort of does it that way except they don't go the whole nine yards.


nostr:npub10chlkc62tk7yr5m9qjc2u7rs3ufhhrq8yukeey0c5lysqkp2gumq93mnex joined nostr for "free speech" but when it arrived, he wasn't prepared.


Monkey still dancing

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The Java world is, unfortunately, way ahead in GUI stuff. The current defacto standard is JavaFX and it is nicer, more modern, more complete, more extensible and much more popular.

I recommend hybrid Java/Haskell for a GUI application, where the Java "main" loads a Haskell native library and the Haskell code calls into JavaFX via JNI.

https://github.com/tweag/inline-java

The `jni` and `jvm` libraries do a good job of dealing with JNI low-level stuff. I've experimented a bit and it seems feasible but nothing completed yet.


This is hilarious as fuck.


Bitcoin is such depraved dreck even nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s little "Purple" business can't deal with it.


nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj and his "wet wipes" could weigh in on that.

#btcfail ahahaha

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Of course watching the young lady smoke makes my toenails curl up as well. What the fuck France.


It does make my toenails curl up.

Makes you wonder what Germans think about those Downfall memes.


Had no future then, still doesn't have one now.


Retrofittting cryptographic decentralized identities into Mastodon?

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Cointards' idea of a cooperative society


Related: https://xkcd.com/2906/


Ooooooh ❤❤❤❤


Ah yes? I'm interested in the breakfast and the coffee. What's the shop? How much did you pay? Are prices stable? Do they pay their suppliers in Bitcoin?


FYI fiat works everywhere


It's like those Downfall memes. Presumably there are plenty on Bitcoin.


Tant pis.


Wen suk my dik?


I've got plenty of fiat chasing my skills thank you.


HALP!! MY BANK NOTE HAS 1 ZERO ON IT!! WHAT AM I DO??? THE END IS NIGH!!

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Thanks for narrowing it down


FYI the native money of the Internet is fiat. Literally every online shop from Amazon to DoorDash to AliExpress takes fiat and none take Bitcoin.


You can't buy food for Bitcoin anywhere. Being zapped buys nothing at all whatsoever.


Evaluating ideas for their merit takes time & effort. Much easier to just copy them.


> in every other online app the company owns your data

nostr:npub1exv22uulqnmlluszc4yk92jhs2e5ajcs6mu3t00a6avzjcalj9csm7d828 doesn't


Sats only have value if you sell them for fiat.


Or just use Haskell?


I'm glad we're talking about icon colours seems like we've got our priorities straight.


Too bad he is too blockchain fixated.


“I objected when my husband, Chansa, began to study the Bible with Jehovah’s Witnesses, because I thought that they break up families. Since then, I have come to see that the Bible actually helped our marriage.”

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/families/


You can invest in Bitcoin but unfortunately, your dopey life with still be dopey then, just with less money.


Aaaahhh ... distributed systems. It's like they're hard.


Aren't you thinking a bit too much. Why not accept things the way they are it's the best for you.


From https://www.themarysue.com/spurious-correlations-engine/ :

https://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/spuriouscorrelation2.png?resize=640%2C223


Concur.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fprulrnbarnya1.jpg


Pro tip: Use Haskell and compile to machine code.

Beware this requires skills.


Looks like a peasant.


It's silly. Go get it. ☕☕☕


6. Ah apparently TikTok "is not a news site" so the ban is not a ban.


Some of the reasons presented why it's not a ban:

1. The app will be banned from app stores but you can still side load it. Oh yeah right because the 1% of Android nerds that side load ...
2. The ban has been democratically legitimized by a law and not just an executive order. Banned by law isn't a ban.
3. It's not a ban because the FBI has warned that TikTok could influence people unless banned. Apparently TikTok users can't think for themselves and will immediately become mindless CCP soldiers upon using the app. A ban in their own interest isn't a ban.
4. Members of the House/Senate voting against the bill are suspicious because how dare they vote different from everyone else.
5. My favorite: It's not a ban because China bans things too. 🤡


Note that nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj 's SimpleX contact can be found in his nostr profile.


all caps means it's true #lawofnostr


At 1:03:40 watch US govt. shills explain how the TikTok ban isn't actually a ban:

https://m.youtube.com/live/IjANFiP3kag


nostr's eternal September now starting in March


The below is a good example

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cointards ...

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At least be careful with flaunting skills & creativity like that.

You could post the occasional "LOL TEH BITCOIN WOWZERS" just to bring the SNR back down a bit.


Awesome.

Did you take a wrong turn somewhere however. This here is for dopey losers.

The creative people probably hang out somewhere but this here isn't it.


Just order from LCSC where's the problem.


What are your skills.


I HAVE SKILLS


We don't want your pests in our pristine countries.


Bitcoiners running in circles when inspected for their preferred currency:

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Bitcoiners running in circles when inspected for their preferred currency:

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Bitcoin, the receptacle for the dregs of society.

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You wished you had skills.


Here's some defiance of dominant opinion:

BTC will fail and HODLers will be hanging themselves in droves.


I have another idea.

You don't have the skills. Give up.

Stack sats instead, drink beer.

Goodbye


Nope. #btcfail


Maybe one of nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc 's feel good pics will help solve the problem?

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BLASPHEMY


Ooof I'm drooling right now.

Prices in Euro. #fiatlife

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_4655132121616910881710433034.webp


A fiat business.


The longer you live, the more sats you'll have when you die.


So sorry to hear that.


Well that went so-so.


It only has a dollar value if you sell it.


#lowcarb


How's this different from DMs.


Apparently they applied for 7 launch permits this year so more than quarterly even.


No probs. Distributed systems are a piece of cake, we'll quickly hack this together in an afternoon.


nostr:npub1hv64t0jlg94p0tpq6zc8mrc5kyfhzwwn8fxp6m45jwdn9pmfs53q0yrjjm 's bitter life of "can't do" is only bearable to him in an echo chamber that shields him from this stark reality.

People aren't victims of echo chambers that have been imposed on them. They are a coping mechanism that they choose for themselves for their psychological well-being. Grant it to them.


Don't worry we'll find a role for you.

Can you say "would you like fries with that"? You might be qualified for something I have in mind.


might of!!!
unboarded!!!

some tier 1 intellectual material here.


Once Saylor and the ETFs own most of all bitcoin then just start a new chain with a new genesis block and mine that.


Some kind of Teutonic bitcoin event.

Prices in Euros lol exactly my kind of humor.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_8018272496352726771710394705.webp


When Saylor and the ETFs have most of the Bitcoin then just start a new chain with a new genesis block and mine that.


Oof


THIS


This is a worry.


Thankfully I live in the free world.


This is horrible.


Maybe they should just start a new chain with a new genesis block and mine that.

There are infinitely many chains.


https://roadtolarissa.com/oracle/

See how random your brain can be. Many similar games out there on the web.


/dev/random is just RDRAND as of Linux 4.19

https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/42164/rdrand-from-dev-random #comment410782_42165


CONCUR.


Not to forget the additional risk that bitcoin might pull a 2022 and drop 70% in dollar value.

AWS still wants to be paid in dollars.


Bitcoin meets reality, I'm sitting back and eating the popcorn. 🍿🍿🍿


Uh oh deflationary currency. The greatest way for businesses to shoot themselves in the foot.


Which article is this?

This one?

https://www.nouvelobs.com/monde/20240309.OBS85506/julian-assange-a-perdu-sa-liberte-parce-que-lui-et-wikileaks-ont-trop-bien-reussi.html

I might subscribe.


You quoted a dollar price there not me.


1$ recharge still 1$

#yayfiat


Oooh

Interesting 🤔


Fiat businesses, every one of them.

#btcfail


Thankfully there is a fuhrer.

People would have to think for themselves otherwise.


Don't worry if you run out of it, just start another chain with a new genesis block and mine that then.


Pro tip: When it becomes too expensive just start a new chain with a new genesis block and mine that then.


The monkey dances, I laugh at the monkey.

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Also yes please mute me so I can ridicule you behind your back.


You still think too much. Faith is wholesome.


nostr:npub1hv64t0jlg94p0tpq6zc8mrc5kyfhzwwn8fxp6m45jwdn9pmfs53q0yrjjm joined nostr for "free speech" but when it arrived, he wasn't prepared


¿que?


Reliability of the internet connection, redundancy of the hardware.

It's almost like commercial data centers exist for a reason.


nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m 's contributions are so lucid. Like a cow standing around on a meadow all day and occasionally saying "moo".


Isn't 1 BTC = 1 BTC some theory of yours.

Maybe you can weigh in on the below.

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Also what's with the "wet wipe". The proper term is "cointard". Watch your terminology buddy.


A sudden collision of Bitcoin faith with reality.


Last time the story was still about subsidizing the hosting from fiat income obtained elsewhere and using the sat payments to stack sats.

Now suddenly apparently the subsidies are not sustainable anymore and sats have to be sold for fiat to cover expenses.

Urks doesn't get more shitty than that.

How about stick the head into the gas oven. Also a great survival strategy.


> For me 120k feels like paying $100k in future purchasing power.

Lol cointards figuring out why deflation absolutely kills any economy.

Plenty of warnings were given by well meaning people but hey some people just need to take that stick and whack it over their own head.

Now everyone's giddy about Bitcoin to the moon!!! and make-believe Bitcoin businesses accepting Bitcoin for future services (1 or more years ahead) are looking at the broken pieces of their shitty depraved existence.


The landscape is littered with the dead bodies of distributed systems projects that "had a go" and "just built something" -- and consequently exhausted themselves quickly.

Plenty of theoretical discussion means you're more likely to survive.

You can "have a go" at mowing the lawn, this here is ambitious and treacherous.


Yes media included in notes needs to be hosted by relays together with the notes and replicated the same way.

Anything else is shenanigans.


Sorry your idea of self-hosting is your own server in your own basement on residential internet?

Not the brightest idea.


Remind me why do people host their own S3 server (like minio?) instead of using AWS S3.


There are no Bitcoin companies. Not a single one. All companies are fiat.


69ksats = US$50 approx

1 year of 10 GB EBS (gp3) in us-east-1 = US$12 approx

+ egress + compute (which is minimal)


You didn't say "Bitcoin"


The harder you work, the faster you run, the more sats you can stack.


Here you can see nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 taking a lead and being ... assertive.

https://twitter.com/DontTraceMeBruh/status/1603504938771877888


Stacking skills here.


I don't suggest promoting bitcoin at all. I love fiat. Did you read my profile.

But I'd like to suggest that after 15 years of Bitcoin you have achieved practically zero adoption.


That sounds like a lot of work. Now where is my food delivery.


Did Biden manage to tie his shoelaces this morning.


Again, you have no skills.


But does it work? With practically zero Bitcoin adoption after 15 years maybe you need to be more ... assertive?

Maybe you need to be the Bitcoin guy on the right in the picture below explaining Bitcoin to the fiat guy on the left.

It's all in their own best interest after all.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_8486049124026878201710236957.webp


Somehow the S&P 500 didn't get your message.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_8948970150875619231710236187.webp


Why not call it the 4th Reich while you're at it.


You can do nothing. Why would anyone pay you.


No one with skills will ever accept Bitcoin. Ever. It's patently absurd.


Prostitution


Buy now before it's too late.


Build a nostr relay that works for the next 10 years including nostr's upcoming eternal September.

It will effectively combat spam using a mix of Bayesian filters, AI, IP address reputation, peering agreements with other selectively approved relays, and some secret sauces.

It will offer filters for parental control, community standards and business compliance.

It will respond to law enforcement requests for the removal of illegal and DCMA content.

Algorithms will selectively promote notes for a fun and engaging experience including trending new products, sponsored notes and informative government news.

This will make it the relay of choice for a safe, family & business friendly nostr and the default relay for Microsoft Windows and Apple iOS.

It will do to nostr what Gmail did to email, Facebook did to the web and me very rich.


Or just use fiat.


Someone doubting things here do you want to send the goons to set him straight

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Aren't you asking too many questions.

You could just stack sats and let others do the thinking for you.


> 2.  Needs to not just be about bitcoin. Normies get shit on often around these parts.

BLASPHEMY!!


You had little money, then you spent it on Bitcoin, now you have even less.


nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc 's ego priced in sats ... not much else unfortunately ...


git on nostr wen?


*Or


It a fiat option? For the skilled people, yaknow.


THIS.


They won $69,420. What did you win?


Bitcoin terminal paid in Euros. Exactly my sense of humor.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_6995009837828233161710143233.webp


You don't. Bitcoin is a tooth fairy for unskilled hicks. Skilled people have fiat.


There is no education that can somehow turn a peasant into a viable contributor to modern society. Only genetic evolution can do that.


Or get a life and use fiat. 😁


The GrapheneOS team is doing the Lord's work.


"perceived"? no can haz English?


That's not a bug, that's a feature. End peasantry.


Yes? Saves a lot of time.


Haskell is an exception we have a special permission slip to do so.


A great book for peasants and other gullible lowlife.

https://a.co/d/id5jQBO


Get a better paying job then.


achtungjawohll!!!


" 卐 Bitcoin uber alles!! 卐 "


BLASPH... ah well whatever


has an even!!


Someone Else's Problem (tm)


#btcfail


Atlas will shrug


Letting the world know about my sense of entitlement. That's my solution.


At this point your note netted you 63 sats.

You see, only 20,937 more sats and you can get a beer!

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Only 20,979 more sats and you can get a beer.

nostr:note1lp72adgda5qqxxfvljs64rk2yt8ag5tudsndw6en9thncs6lvmssxu4al7


BLASPHEMY


Bitcoin told him that he must be right


Better link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=76s&v=md6lbxsF6J0&feature=youtu.be


Well he's dead now so we get to ascribe to him anything we like.


Mais celui son nom c'est Panoramix?

https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panoramix


Silvio Gesell's ideas are on the extreme fiat end of the money spectrum. It's the exact opposite of Bitcoin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uz4PRWr3ns


Would like to see a path to commercialization though. Commercializing open source is one of those Great Unsolved Problems (TM).


achtungjawollherrcapitain!!


What if you have no skills though. Stack sats?


With Bitcoin that wouldn't have happened.


That doesn't even look like a pint glass even, something smaller.


Oh cool!

Where's this business? Have the prices been stable? Do they pay their suppliers in Bitcoin?

21,000 sats is about US$15.00? Isn't that a bit expensive for a beer? It would be in my area.


Aliens!!!


Fake data. BTC and EGP are so shitty you can't even trade the one for the other.


I recommend this against the cockroaches.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_8647989255932915721709801927.webp


How about running water, too. I'm not even asking about potable water.


nostr:npub1a2cww4kn9wqte4ry70vyfwqyqvpswksna27rtxd8vty6c74era8sdcw83a is the power still on in your Egyptian dreck house. I'll be checking back with you daily.


Bought with fiat.

What did you buy?

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_2037084983804867711709798157.webp


Ah mortgages in shithole countries. The new envy of the depraved cockroaches.


Wow fiat USD is so awesome.

As an added bonus you can also buy stuff with it or so I hear. I mean stuff other than EGP.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_9073210251383089161709797033.webp


Radicle's gossip protocol doesn't scale well beyond a few dozen nodes. This way work for an individual repo and team like Amethyst.

The challenge with git and code hosting isn't an individual repo though. It's the whole ecosystem of interlinked repos, because code relies on libraries which in turn rely on other libraries etc.

You need a more large scale solution for that.


There's already a standard for public key authentication on the and it's WebAuthn, 2 even if you include client certificates.

Can't this be reused or extended to include nostr keys.


This fiat influencer here is showing off some food porn he scored for his fiat:

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Anyone attempting distributed systems engineering:

This just came up on Hacker News

https://replica-io.dev/blog/2024/03/04/on-implementation-of-distributed-prtocols

Woefully superficial and incomplete survey of attempts at distributed systems.

But should still do the job of discouraging 99% of everyone that endeavors to do so to drop everything and abandon this particular ship. Chances are you're not cut out to do it.

Forget "AI", *this* is the hardest challenge in computer science today. It separates the wheat from the chaff for good and you're probably chaff.


Thanks nostr:npub160h38avnkrdjv5gvudzpgdzdrnvf8vxh57x6up0qn82h69dt4t4qzhfxn4 could you please take some bitcoin and fix the situation.

I heard bitcoin fixes everything.


My income goes up too. If yours doesn't you're just dopey.


*fiat meat lol


🤤🤤🤤

That looks like flat meat to me. Am I right?


Kids (re-)discovering distributed systems engineering, part 357.


"There should be a framework that solves the problem of implementing distributed protocols once and for all [...]"

On the sorry state of distributed systems engineering and, by extension, our lack of understanding of computers and the internet.

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Blockchain ledgers are centralized in so far as that "there is only one" ledger but stored decentralized on many redundant nodes. I don't need to explain that to you Mr. Bitcoin.

So a team having to have "the one fork" they work on together doesn't imply centralized single point of failure storage. Of course blockchain ledgers achieve this at absurdly high bandwidth costs and simplistic consensus algorithms.

Can you take it from there and reduce bandwidth, increase consensus sophistication so that the team's one fork can live on 2 dozen servers like nostr relays and yet be synced well enough to appear as one.

Not an easy task I know but it's the only way forward.


Did the ancient Romans have caps lock already.


You can move it all you like, but it'll always be in one place only.

A repo + issues + PRs from a complex data structure the decentralizion of which hasn't really been solved yet.

Nostr's decentralization is easy because of a simple flat set of notes. Even then, a thread of notes already constitutes only a moderately more complex structure and you can immediately see it failing when some notes in the thread are missing.

IPFS is trying something there with the IPLD git adapter but the DHT is already weak so I'm not optimistic. Submitting issues/PRs via nostr suggest and existing or pending full git decentralization that we desperately need but doesn't exist and won't come anytime soon.

https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipld-git


First steps, actual footage.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_3149857231433030601709642596.webp


Eli5 and dummy too even.

Anyone want to aim lower even??


The repo is still centrally hosted.

Make-believe decentralization.


Soon: Baby's first Bitcoin


About time we aligned cocaine with family values.


Had the sauce dripping all over my fingers hehe. It was delish, I'm starting to think I'm addicted.


What I got for fiat today.

What did you get?

Fiat is so awesome oh wow!!

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_7702871615469989281709623781.webp


Remember when it goes up it's because you're so smart and when it goes down the world is to blame.


Looking forward for the world population to stabilize at around 80 million.


Pro tip: Lampoon Bitcoiners from the comfort of your home.


Only if you sell for fiat


AI binoculars you wouldn't know the shit that exists

https://www.businessinsider.com/swarovski-ax-visio-ai-binoculars-for-birdwatching-2024-1


Probably a good moment to mention that the decentralized, distributed technology space is already densely populated and you don't get to carve out your own niche and ignore the rest.

You will have to integrate & converge with everyone else with similar ambitions.

If your ego is in the way of doing that then you don't belong here and will fail.


Hey IPFS already does that. Don't reinvent the wheel.

https://github.com/libp2p/go-libp2p/blob/master/core/peer/pb/peer_record.proto

Also various cryptard blockchains have similar things (ENR in Ethereum).

Go take your NIH and stick it somewhere.


Hey can I just mention that over in SimpleX circles they think DNS is decentralized and are eager to commit themselves to it.

https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/blob/stable/docs/rfcs/2021-12-11-identity.md

I didn't think I was ever going to say that but I'm having more sane conversations now with nostr devs than with SimpleX devs. At least pertaining to DNS.


The propaganda is for your own good.

Don't think too much it's not healthy.


If you had a dollar every time ...


*do wonders


It's toxic colonial white man's mindset like this that needs to be eradicated hard & fast.

6 months prison can to wonders correcting the aberrant mind.


nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj so arrogant to assume that the laws from his home country apply in Portugal too

"Publishing pictures of a person in a public space: Requires consent"

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Country_specific_consent_requirements #Portugal


Those a good questions.

"The system sounds quite like the current one (replace merchants with banks)"

No because currently you only have one currency issuer, one central bank to choose from.

"Why did we move away from merchant-generated and backed credit notes?"

It was impractical. Too many currencies means to many conversions and exchange rates to keep track of. But now we have digital and that can be automated to the point that it feels invisible.

"What/who do you define as a "merchant" in 2024? Amazon? Google? Target? Pick 'n Pay?"

Sure but local merchants that supply you with food, transport and other daily necessities are probably better candidates.

"And since it is 2024, can I send/trade these internationally on a phone with immediate settlement? Can I stream value (worth sub-cents) over the internet with these?"

I think Hawala type chains of intermediaries will emerge over time but don't worry too much about it now. Paying a Youtuber from Manila is an exotic corner case. Worry about your daily necessities so that you don't starve to death because of a financial breakdown.

"That sounds like a lot of "trust" is required again, this time it's the merchants (perhaps re-read the BTC whitepaper, we have moved on from a trust based system)"

Trust is not a bug, it's a feature. Most people are socially apt enough to build trust relationships and those are very valuable because commerce thrives on them. A lot now, even more so in the future. Bitcoiners are smitten by "trust less" because they are socially inept but that's just the few of them. I think life isn't for them and they will perish.

"Could they debase my life savings and generational wealth I want to leave for my grand-kids and beyond?
Could they declare the credit notes they issued are not longer valid/accepted? (I.e do I need to appeal to an authority, as is the case now)"

These things can all happen with one or two merchants but not all of them at once. As for generational wealth, it probably won't exist, your children will have to earn their own living just like you did. Teach them skills how to do so that's the best you can do.

"What are their credit notes backed by and what defines their value? Or are they purely "fiat"?"

The grocer will set prices like 2.5 credit notes will give you 1 cucumber. You will be able to repeatedly redeem notes and from the experience you can extrapolate that this will continue to happen.

Watch "Shillings from Heaven" (on YouTube) for an approximate example.

"What is the path from where we are today to going back to merchant-generated credit notes?"

Merchants can just start issuing them. You can be the first. Maybe make an app.

"Any central authority(s) will be shutdown by govs (see previous attempts to re-introduce billion based money and previous e-cash projects)"

This is a bit of a worry, see the above movie too, that's why we need things like nostr. If nostr is social media that can't be shut down then merchant credit that can't be shut down will work the same way.

"Suggest reading ￼ "Broken Money" book to understand why a merchant-based system wouldn't work, again - especially in 2024 and beyond."

I could do that but nostr:npub1a2cww4kn9wqte4ry70vyfwqyqvpswksna27rtxd8vty6c74era8sdcw83a is an unskilled hick that lives on other people's money and her writings are probably a waste of time.


Not a cointard but still an unskilled hick.

nostr:note1c2uyzy6ev75d3uysqmu5785zz7r9h3hzmtu035npfrkln4hu3jxssp8l03


nostr:npub13mjzjryckg9jnxgn3vez73nw5gx82cy0269t2083zjftlxewsjwqny8hs2 joined nostr for "free speech" but when it arrived, he wasn't prepared


That's what bitcoin is for then. It gives losers like yourself something to talk about.


What do you have to offer. If you don't have bitcoin you have to have skills. I don't see posts about skills.


You haven't quoted Silvio Gesell yet.


Also what sorts of skills do you see yourself selling in this merchant credit market.

Shouting out angry nostr posts isn't a marketable skill y'know.


Do you have a digital software implementation of this whole scheme.


Uh oh blasphemy.


Lol the replies on this thread.


Hm sure sure.

And Wednesday morning at 9am, a flock of winged monkeys will come flying out of your ass.


nostr:npub1a2cww4kn9wqte4ry70vyfwqyqvpswksna27rtxd8vty6c74era8sdcw83a and nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m are unskilled hicks.

Lyn exists higher up in the pyramid scheme that is the broken financial system and lives off the money of the poor shmucks below.

Jack is a one trick pony who accidentally got involved in Twitter and knows he won't be able to repeat the success, hence the proceeds from the Twitter sale will have to last as long as possible. Bitcoin is some desperate hope of making that happen.


a fantastic line of reasoning only the most unskilled hick could come up with


"Let's Encrypt SSL certificate, namecheap domain and webspace on digitalocean."

Standard issue cloud setup in 2024.


THIS.


"I buy some dollars ..." still got the fiat mindset


Yes. That's why well functioning currencies are entirely debt based, entirely fiat and, most importantly, have demurrage as seen in Shillings from Heaven.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uz4PRWr3ns

Based on the writings of Silvio Gesell: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Natural_Economic_Order

No major currencies today have demurrage which is why they're so broken and people are literally starving.

This whole thing won't work for Mr. nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj here of course because if you can't stack money you have to stack skills and he doesn't have any so goodbye either way.


Pet name. 👍


Maybe this can be combined with a petname system. The user should not have to type in a contact's name in the first place and then have to agonize about effing spaces and whathaveyou.

Instead pick one from a list. See there, that's a sane thing.


Sheesh


This is true for nostr:npub1exv22uulqnmlluszc4yk92jhs2e5ajcs6mu3t00a6avzjcalj9csm7d828 too.


Kenyan ugali btw. Not gonna buy again but I'm always eager to try something new. The goat stew that came with it (not in pic) was the GOAT though.


Remember to post your fiat purchase of the day.

This was mine. What did you get?

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_3703330548339824441709354409.webp


I think the center has all those bitcoin powered businesses in it that we keep hearing about but can't seem to find.


*skills


Sorry what are these skills that you ostensibly have? I have doubts.


You have no skill nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj . It's hodl forever and then you die.


It's fiat all the way down.


Also chicken & mushroom fiat, beef & curry fiat, chili con carne fiat ...

Fiat fiat fiat ...

Fiiiiiiiiiiiiat!!!!1!!!!

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_9344915153250256341709349844.webp


Chocolate & ricotta fiat, berry & custard fiat, apple & cinnamon fiat ...

Which fiat would you like?

https://nostrcheck.me/media/134743ca8ad0203b3657c20a6869e64f160ce48ae6388dc1f5ca67f346019ee7/nostrcheck.me_8227358924645054521709349723.webp


You said you spent sats then you say you spent Euro.


You didn't say "bitcoin"


Blasphemy!!!


Does any of it involve having skills.


Using "democracy" as if it was a swear word.


New offer: For US$ 12,000 you're allowed to educate me about Bitcoin for 1 hour.


Judging from nostr "stacking sats" is the wildest thing many can come up with.


And if the link target is another markdown in a set of markdowns? It generates a set of PDFs? I like browser extension. Markdowns are more like HTML web pages, PDF is structurally different.


nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z pet names wen??


How about clickable links?

I recommend the markdown plugin for Chrome/Firefox where you just browse the markdown rendered to HTML on the fly.


Aliens.


How much did you pay? What were prices like last year? Are prices stable? Does the business pay their suppliers in Bitcoin?


Australians talking to us from down under


And still no Kubernetes


Bitcoin conference priced in fiat.

"Because we're cointards!"

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_4907227312999550601709199101.webp


Lol Bitcoin conference priced in fiat. Exactly my kind of humor.


Maybe Bitcoin's moneyness will finally emerge ... in another 15 years?

Meanwhile I paid some fiat for ... rose petal chocolate. 🌹🌹🌹

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_5843671062124141651709196532.webp


Bitcoin people are so much smarter than everyone else that's their idea of humility


We like nostr:npub1sn0wdenkukak0d9dfczzeacvhkrgz92ak56egt7vdgzn8pv2wfqqhrjdv9 because he's particularly heroic, not particularly bright.


What I got for fiat today.

What did you get?

 https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_8135099118036049841709173714.webp


nostr:npub1cv0z9sm3tsdau4sgklsdqjgy7gh4l3znhgvqd5sunu3c9c0933kq2hhehh will take some of his Bitcoin and fix this situation.


What you could get if you sold some of your bitcoin #hawaii

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_3365141907693745771709168093.webp


Can I have your money I'll give you a couple of homeless humans that 'reside' in my area in return.


Trouble deciding which fiat cheese to buy.

What have you bought today?

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_9920814159049141311709165690.webp


Awesome. I like this fiat economy of yours. It seems to be providing (TM).


Whatever this guy has been smoking, I want some of it.


Toka de Baco, a fiat business and tourist trap lol

https://restaurantguru.com/Toka-de-Baco-Funchal

https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Restaurant_Review-g189167-d15321750-Reviews-Toka_de_Baco-Funchal_Madeira_Madeira_Islands.html


Sorry how is this about bitcoin I'm confused


nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj got rug-pulled by nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 lol this is entertaining. #notrust


Lolwut I was promised heaven on Earth.


Decrepit cointards with the social aptitude of an earthworm suddenly experiencing their depraved 'low-trust/no-trust' society.

nostr:note10z2t0d7hr2awv3tptln47ldvhmudshfuf0vdhekz0vnqtxt0amqqnw5a3k


Use your bitcoin to fix this.


I think nostr:npub1exv22uulqnmlluszc4yk92jhs2e5ajcs6mu3t00a6avzjcalj9csm7d828 qualifies as local first.


THIS.


#iFruitcake


- keep your head down
- toe the line
- obey
- surrender


All caps means it's true.


Fiat purchase of the moment.

What have you bought?

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_3972611378389497561709088704.webp


Oh hullo nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m your little fuck buddy making himself unpopular.

nostr:note1qch6adkm2gtt69fjhwqpzdhxup8fp3w480wzzfqq028uxaa5py9qmz0fws


Can we get rid of this guy.


Weak economies now the bar to measure oneself against.


Radiating a medium sized countries' worth of energy into outer space now considered a good thing.


It's banned in North Korea or so I hear, so there you go.


Or vacation in Hawaii? (N.B. Hawaii is a fiat state)

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_6230090668006404901709011144.webp


What you could buy for fiat.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_7669261364683003961709010949.webp


Goes to show how desperately decentralized systems are needed.

Nostr is a dinky little Twitter make-believe yet people immediately project their desires for decentralized whatever onto it.

Nostr for git! Nostr for science! Nostr for Wikipedia!!

Distributed systems are hard. Why don't you make one instead of asking for one.


Why we need nostr.

"Supreme Court Hears Landmark Cases That Could Upend What We See on Social Media."

https://m.slashdot.org/story/425358


Right-sizing society.


Oh noes!

Here's a shakshuka got for fiat today.

What did you get?

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_6954402102023109351708990388.webp


It means sometime next year 51% of miners will get together and democratically vote to increase the limit.

Because the party must go on.


Stability is a lie?

nostr:note1kkkv3akgjljkqgftptfv0nte5ktxnpnkdhst9hcde4680nzg5csqelmx9x


Maybe there was a bug in one of SimpleX's older versions.


New URL looks much better.


Strange. It has to contact the server to get the address so maybe networking issues on your end? On the other hand I've heard other people on nostr report network lag. Dunno, works for me.


There's something weird about the nostr:npub1exv22uulqnmlluszc4yk92jhs2e5ajcs6mu3t00a6avzjcalj9csm7d828 address in your profile. Parts of it are duplicated. It should only be half as long.

Strangely enough nostr:npub18m6az6939auxwgl3dvpq0slxglv6ez64fzhns5u5qstgdtedmxds9e47pz has the same issue.


Here's what I got for fiat today. (That's both the beer and the trip to the beach.)

What did *you* get?

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_4608441243585939571708927238.webp


Actual footage:

https://youtu.be/5hJdhL1Ni_w


"circlejerk" 👍😃


"As a coffee cup's wave function entangles with more things, including observers, it splits into “here” and “there” branches." 😯

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.365.6458.1070


Could it be that Jesus helps me trick people?


Oh hey growing up is a thing.


Faith needs mutual reassurance, you can't just keep it to yourself or it'll fade.

Nostr provides a virtual congregation where you don't have to risk showing your face.


This has been turned into a movie.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uz4PRWr3ns

It's based on the writings of Silvio Gesell -- "The Natural Economic Order"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Natural_Economic_Order


"His preference for Microsoft over Unix-based software ..."

Oh gawd.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk


Here's the UK fiat free bread market.

About GBP 1.40 +/- 0.25 over 10 years.

Not perfect but I can act on that and plan for the future.

How do you plan your Bitcoin future?

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_8280332124358765221708833779.webp


Here's the UK fiat free bread market.

About GBP 1.40 +/- 0.25 over 10 years.

Not perfect but I can act on that and plan for the future.

How do you plan your Bitcoin future?

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_4008305693125829011708833566.webp


Can you tell Elmo that. He should come up with something better.

I doubt he can do it though. He doesn't seem like the inventive kind of guy.


Funny this comes up on Hacker News shortly after I posted it here.

nostr:note12l8puuq0dzdq0vadeat4scfk62c7w3p9kwgvrwr4cnev5zv02fls2tem2t


Lol investing in SMTP is investing in technology from 1981. How about VCRs too, Elmo?


Looks weird. It probably works in spite of the duplication.


Something went wrong with the SimpleX contact address in your nostr profile. It's somehow duplicate.


Here you can see an (unintentionally) "open" account:

nostr:npub1784frm4t0xyw6q8ry57465xxdqm5xwv4xjxhm9ledzsvawq7py5sq6cs92

Someone accidentally had their private key revealed and now at least 2 parties share it.

😃


There are groups and plans to extend groups to something more scalable.

As for nostr, a bridge that bridges the gap between nostr and SimpleX, e.g. linking nostr and SimpleX IDs via certificates.

Also detaching the ID from the SMP server would be good. It should *just* be the key. The server that hosts the queue should be discovered the same way nostr discovers the relay that has a particular event.


What for. The cryptographic identities are just fine and don't need another layer. We can pass them around instead of DNS names. I can print a QR code on my business card.

SimpleX needs to owe up to using IDs and advertise the fact as a Good Thing (tm).


phew


What I got for fiat today.

What did you get?

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_7861992428825576301708821780.webp


Also: "it clarifies that we develop software for communication network, and not a communication service."

I wonder whether that'll fly with the authorities.


Boeing? 😋


Where's the evidence that post-quantum will happen anytime soon or that the harvest-now-decrypt-later attack is plausible.


"no user profile IDs of any kind, not even random numbers, cryptographic keys or hashes that identify the users"

I still don't like this and I will keep harping on this. If users have no ID they cannot be reached. SimpleX offers multiple, separate IDs per user to inhibit correlation and controls for users over their IDs.

What's worse is that it implies that user IDs are a bad thing. They are the essence of users being able to maintain long-term online relationships and build reputation. We need more of that not less.


I didn't read your link but your note says "once we drop fiat bitcoin is the choice" which is both making an assumption that's unlikely to happen and continuing with a simple, almost tautological conclusion.

That one day I will have a lot of money is also unlikely to happen and that with a lot of money I would be rich is a tautology as well.

Debt and fiat are reflective of people's level of trust, social aptitude and ability to project and plan ahead. The perfect society is all debt, all fiat, which we're not quite there yet.

Silvio Gesell's book "The Natural Economic Order" is a good read but if you don't have the attention span, the movie "Shillings from Heaven" will do as a gateway drug.


Ah why thanks for going out of your way. Much appreciated.


I don't want to doxx myself but I have lot of unicorns living in my area and also BigFoot and the Yeti.


Where's this local bitcoin economy? Can I visit? Are you running a bitcoin business? Is stability a lie?

nostr:nevent1qqstttxg7myf0etqyy4s45k8e4u6t9nfsemxmc9jmuxu6arhe3y2vgqpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzqmjxss3dld622uu8q25gywum9qtg4w4cv4064jmg20xsac2aam5nqvzqqqqqqyhzwc0y


What do I do with this? This doesn't display correctly for me.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_2668061593869239361708798819.webp


Not sure how this works on your end but it does seem to equate popularity with authenticity. Don't know whether I like it.

It'll turn into the nostr version of SEO scams I think.


Being rich is a natural thing once you have a lot of money.

I'll check back in a year.

Might want to keep those receipts from the Bitcoin purchases for statistical purposes.


nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 no can haz English


nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z pet name system wen?


Oh noes first the nostr:npub1a2cww4kn9wqte4ry70vyfwqyqvpswksna27rtxd8vty6c74era8sdcw83a s now it's the nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m s multiplying.


The link is https://wikifreedia.xyz/amethyst


https://wikifreedia.xyz/Amethyst

Wikifreedia attempts to lend credibility through formatting but my contribution about the origins of Amethyst is much more plausible than any of the options that wikifreedia presents.

I mean "Kotlin" what lol? What's a Kotlin even. Surely you made that shit up.

nostr:note1vgclyz2c3ku83sj2dnngw7mfye6sxwzaw62fd4yn8ddwq2vgn0vsjk7en5


Finally!!

Monkeys on typewriters, institutionalized!

We so needed that. What's been taking so long.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem


#iFruitcakes


If there's no such thing as a new idea where did the first idea come from? Turtles all the way down Mr. Twain is it!? Haha what a retard.

You could apply the same argument to biological evolution, each new species is just a remix of the old. Yet somehow they magically improve and most stuff alive today does not look like an amoeba.

All original information, whether it's genes or memes, comes from the quantum field of the universe.

Seth Lloyd explains it very nicely in his book "Programming the Universe".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_the_Universe


Oww whoa!

What's the name of the place? Have prices in Bitcoin been stable? Do they pay their suppliers in Bitcoin?

#sustainablebusiness


Fiat got me this scarce commodity today

What did you get?

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_1359342382980251161708793324.webp


Both DHTs are Kademlia and work exactly the same. If IPFS appears slower then that's -- ironically -- because it's so much more popular.


Thanks for your ongoing insightful contributions. Much appreciated.


Aaah yes that sounds like a bit of a burden. Those are p2p networks that put a lot of load on the peer and scale extremely poorly overall.

Kademlia DHTs like IPFS or Bittorrent scale medium well.

It's a question of scaling distributed systems -- my eternal pet peeve, I'm optimistic! -- but not a question of formats or key algos or diverging code bases which is what this conversation was about.


That's fine. It's early days. Things will converge.


You didn't have an answer last time, you don't have one this time.

nostr:note1qm6l6kzcv9acp6zymz068l5gmken8ja8llwptqq0hsvanjajuzyssv2wt8


Unfortunately for you you appear to be weak so your property is mine now.


Yup.


😃😃

I'm glad we've got smart cookies running the show here.


The fun part is where I ignore it every time and literally just do whatever.


Btw the did "DHT" thing has been around for a long time in IPFS called IPNS.

https://specs.ipfs.tech/ipns/ipns-record/


That linked document specifies a "did:key" btw -- that's like nostr.


It'll converge somehow. The important part is the basis of cryptographic identities i.e. public/private keypairs.

Everything else are superficial differences. Once tke keypairs are there you can easily convert between formats.

You can even link separate identities from different ecosystems even with different key algos (e.g. EcDsa vs. EdDsa) via certificates a.k.a. nostr "delegates".

nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z
nostr:npub1w4uswmv6lu9yel005l3qgheysmr7tk9uvwluddznju3nuxalevvs2d0jr5


What I got for fiat today. What did you get?

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_4156533414161030321708715047.webp


I hear the vendors will go back to fiat the day after the conference. #potemkinvillage


It is in fact made from the ashes of frog thighs by gnomes living in nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z 's basement


Now that he's gone (is he???) we can just interpret the scripture to suit whatever conclusion we want to draw from it.


"... fears that the prevalent use of China-built cranes with advanced software ..."

Lol. Cave people be replacing the whole crane instead of just the software.


That certain je ne sai quoi I assume.


THIS.


Good to see someone put their SimpleX contact in their nostr profile.

SimpleX is the DM solution that nostr needs.

nostr:npub1exv22uulqnmlluszc4yk92jhs2e5ajcs6mu3t00a6avzjcalj9csm7d828


I call this whole idea "social media for grown-ups". You can't have sophisticated, long-term discussions if stuff just scrolls off the edge of the screen. The presentation encourages LOL WTF FOO BAR!! type posts, spur of the moment outbursts of emotion and nothing else.

GitHub issues are a reasonably good example of "social media for grown-ups". That. Can you do that but decentralized.


Right.

You might not want events from the past to have valid signatures in the first place. This relates to the whole "deletion" debate and the "boosting/reposting" debate.

I think the logical thing is for events to have an expiry date attached to them, set by the user when signing. Viewing how short-lived conversations are defacto right now since they just "scroll off the edge off the scren" anyways and 3 days later no one remembers what you said anyways that's just making it official. If you want your note to keep living, you'll have to repost/boost it and it gets a new expiry date. Client will have to provide UIs to maybe automate this client side for the author and provide the reader with clues as to what's reposted vs. genuinely new.

If you regret writing something well just don't renew it and it'll lapse and there's your deletion.


If I'm reading this correctly https://github.com/did-method-plc/did-method-plc?tab=readme-ov-file then the user's long term ID is a cryptographic ID *only* which means you can do whatever.


Content ID format from IPFS btw. (CIDv1)


Hm really. Are you sure you're talking about the did:plc variant not did:web variant?? A quick read of this https://github.com/did-method-plc/did-method-plc?tab=readme-ov-file doesn't reveal how it's tied to a host.


nostr:npub1w4uswmv6lu9yel005l3qgheysmr7tk9uvwluddznju3nuxalevvs2d0jr5 can Amber evolve to something that integrates different cryptographic identities on different platforms.

Like "this key on nostr is the same person as this other key on BlueSky".

Also: https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/issues/2859


^^ nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z nostr:npub1w4uswmv6lu9yel005l3qgheysmr7tk9uvwluddznju3nuxalevvs2d0jr5


https://github.com/did-method-plc/did-method-plc

Cryptographic identity w/ key rotation.

The centralized PLC server can evolve to a decentralized relay-type solution.

I'm drooling.


Why not compare to shithole countries' currencies like nostr:npub1a2cww4kn9wqte4ry70vyfwqyqvpswksna27rtxd8vty6c74era8sdcw83a 's. Looks even more impressive.


*If only...

gaah


Of not you could buy anything other than fiat.


LiPo ~200 Wh/kg
Gasoline ~ 12,000 Wh/kg

does not compare


Lol fantastic. Thanks for posting this.


Someone knows their stuff here.


Bye-bye woke.


*a Starbucks. Oops 😬


Will they open a startup.


I sure hope being yelled at gets *you* going cause it didn't work for me.


Or you'll perish. We'll check back with you in a few months.


Did yours?


The Judean People's Front, not the People's Front of Judaea.


My income went up accordingly.


What I got for fiat today. What did you get?

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_7062199519571284331708596132.webp


You, sir, are doing the work of the Lord.


Did you pay in bitcoin? What price? What was the price last year?


Occasional bouts of sanity.


Randomly sending things anywhere without concerns for bandwidth, latency, scalability.


Below you see a faith leader true to their mission. Notice how the all caps adds confidence in the face of uncertainty.

nostr:note1vxmwxxjuf5d9ays6vv45a9zdhf8h05pxle8lyxhdv3q9azsaz9hs2wpd30


That's not how congregations work.

Faith in Bitcoin can only be maintained by constant regurgitation.


Some real geniuses at work here.


Hail mary distributed systems architecture. Just make things up as you go and then pray.


Coming up in 3h:

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_3331759352496162121708549970.webp


Never understood how likely and how soon this "post quantum" event was going to happen. I see very little literature on that.

Plus also the cost and feasibility of this harvest-now-decrypt-later approach.


I'm liking these schemes


Is Cafe Madere (sp?) still there? Do they still take Bitcoin? Have prices been stable?


Look who's desperate for other people's money.


Just put your full SimpleX address into your nostr profile the way I do. The URL shortener might MITM you.


Putting your SimpleX address into a URL shortener seems like a security risk.


Aren't you a bit too smart for nostr.


The more caps the truer.


He's writing in all caps it must be true.


nostr:npub1a2cww4kn9wqte4ry70vyfwqyqvpswksna27rtxd8vty6c74era8sdcw83a has no skills and will eventually run out of other people's money.

nostr:note12rxz3079022f3zfgdl8gw3gr7u825kh0vjg0t4gpcs8f9pgdd9psyu83w4


Cointard triggered by picture of steak that he can't get.

I think I have a new edge now.

nostr:note15ajylwty5c4fhzj3z04mvf3vhfj8sca4pvw57whrpp4dv4hzgq9q7uuhrt


Fake! The real nostr:npub1a2cww4kn9wqte4ry70vyfwqyqvpswksna27rtxd8vty6c74era8sdcw83a <--!!


Media for Obsessing Over Bond Markets


nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z pet names wen?


Next: Moonshine?


nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj 's make-believe business a template for all make-believers.

nostr:note1hwp7qeck9qkfrpycrp6lqw3jzum5grjj37uar7tf9zldrnjf8h3s8p9rfv


It's not a bitcoin business unless it's bitcoin in, bitcoin out.


If only you could pay your expenses in Bitcoin.


In the fiat world we just contact the bank and they transfer it back. Pretty genius huh.


Oops replied to the wrong note.


It's the nature of any congregation.


In the fiat world we just contact the bank and they transfer it back. Pretty genius huh


Faith in Bitcoin only persists if it's constantly regurgitated.


Dang


Also I host my own ofc. #freedom


Network issues on your end?

Also there are SimpleX user forums on SimpleX itself I'm not in them though.


Pro tip: A bit of WD40 will help with the stuck caps key.


Ah it's the Judaean People's Front vs. the People's Front of Judaea.


Just purchased this for fiat.

What do you have.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_4774154556376016331708452590.webp


Maybe use a stick to "educate" them?


What happens when you question fiat.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Natural_Economic_Order


Do it if you have balls.


Don't use the relay if you don't like it.


A lot of Big Cars are bought by dads for their daughters.


Truth.


nostr:npub1lrnvvs6z78s9yjqxxr38uyqkmn34lsaxznnqgd877j4z2qej3j5s09qnw5 be baseless fear mongering


nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 is right. Go for it


If you stack skills you don't need to stack sats.


Dis good.


The heroes of Ayn Rand's novel are skilled people. What are your skills?


You can't eat BTC.


Tesla is like the Apple of the EV world. Chinese EVs are like Androids.


I can see Chinese EV manufacturers band together and develop a standardized interface that a 3rd party OS can be installed on e.g. to take on Tesla.


Come here nostr:npub1sn0wdenkukak0d9dfczzeacvhkrgz92ak56egt7vdgzn8pv2wfqqhrjdv9 so I can lampoon you.


nostr:npub1sn0wdenkukak0d9dfczzeacvhkrgz92ak56egt7vdgzn8pv2wfqqhrjdv9 did you really say that


Oh look James Clapper's personal wanker is on nostr!


Self hosted. If it's provided then it's centralized.


Let's reinvent all of IPFS that's totally awesome.


Let's open a bottle of Bitcoin to celebrate.


Haha yeah we're the Judaean People's Front whereas they're the People's Front of Judaea, that's totally different!!!


Wait there is an exception for the Bitcoin illusion that's allowed isn't it!!??


People's incomes go up too. Of course if *yours* doesn't oh so sorry to hear that.


If you had a dollar for every time you have to say this.


When lampooning Bitcoiners becomes a national sport.


Any noun can be verbed.


definatelly!!


Washington will be stoked


Or splitting the atom in any which way. Or burning fossil fuels. Or, or, or ...

Whatever this nostr:npub1a2cww4kn9wqte4ry70vyfwqyqvpswksna27rtxd8vty6c74era8sdcw83a person has been smoking I want some of it.


From today s Washington Post Horoscopes. I literally have no idea what that means.


Be careful granting a favor today.  With Venus conjunct Pluto, an innocent request could prove insidious over time.


They don't


Wikipedia says pigments


It's fluorescent too


would of already been had!!!


Or Positano

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_7519304460951455981708204442.webp


Looks like Vernazza, Italy

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_1955164945018332101708204176.webp


Surely the Fed is to blame for this one and Bitcoin will fix this. What happened in 1971?


They're dreaming of their bitcoins having value and their life having meaning.


They be busy jerking off while counting them Bitcoins. I mean what else would you do with them.


would of ...


Lampooning Bitcoiners


Everyone please listen to nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z


PSA: Android PWA"s work just fine even in the EU

https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/9658361?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform=Android


Input.

https://youtu.be/WnTKllDbu5o


nostr:npub1exv22uulqnmlluszc4yk92jhs2e5ajcs6mu3t00a6avzjcalj9csm7d828 written in Haskell (mostly)


The free speech. You probably can't stomach it.


Guy on the right explaining his scripture to guy on the left.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_8922443251411582051708168861.webp


Make sure you check back with nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn before you ask any hard questions to make sure they are on the list of questions permitted by his scripture.


It's when the wheat started to separate from the chaff.


If things are not going well for you maybe the Fed is to blame but Occam's Razor says it's most likely just you being a little dweeb.


Numeracy not high in nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc world.


More of nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc  20/20 hindsight w00t!!


1 year ago now "back in the day"


nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc 's awesome hindsight is 20/20!!


Horrible how they force you to do it.


Android?


Got the fingers right almost.


In Haskell we have proper JNI.

https://github.com/tweag/inline-java/tree/master/jni

Too bad dweeb languages don't have that.


Hm right


Lol arguing with iFruitcakes.


*our Android community


Do me a favor and keep iFruitcakes like nostr:npub1chakany8dcz93clv4xgcudcvhnfhdyqutprq2yh72daydevv8zasmuhf02 out of your Android community


Android is Linux lol wtf


LOW IQ EH?


Required reading.


Sorry Android users only.


More stupid on bigger screen.


Joey fits the iFruit user IQ range.


Lol you're arguing with an iFruitcake.


No need for RISC-V the ARM licensing is not what drives the cost.

As nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s about his amazing $150 brand name Android phone he's developing Damus on.


Excellent answer.

Too bad nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s expenses are in fiat it will be a problem if it ever goes down.


Exciting! You're not staring at bitcoin's dollar value like everyone else? Are you running a bitcoin based business? How does it work? Do your customers pay bitcoin, do you pay your suppliers in bitcoin? How stable are the prices?


Radiating the energy of a medium sized country into outer space now "energy efficiency".


He's writing in all caps it must be true.


It will probably go up further and this is good news for later when we all sell our Bitcoin for dollars because what else would you buy with them.


^^
One of nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc 's fanbois rushing to his defense.


What's your Bitcoin business?

This here says dollars
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1697526349/


sript ...


Glad to hear someone's taking care of the orphans because I'm not.


"No one is bullish enough" here's one of your fanbois. You two could go outside and fight it out in a duel or something?

nostr:note135hkk7jwrqrk0jtfcxhsyl3wn27d8t5xz2h5f5xlvtwcnc4qpr8sv09f23


Stacking skills.


And what's your answer for nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z who is begging for donations to devs. Is that your market? A market of beggars.


Ah the mythical magical Bitcoin business. I think the Yeti ate it?

Or ask nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj how his is going.

nostr:note1hwp7qeck9qkfrpycrp6lqw3jzum5grjj37uar7tf9zldrnjf8h3s8p9rfv


How's real estate going.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-02-14/real-estate-lenders-confront-falling-us-commercial-property-prices


I will do whatever


Use Haskell


There we go again. More of the heresy.


Your awesome shop quotes prices in dollars. 😍😍😍


How do I upvote this.


Sounds like a plan. nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z ?


Then you can't discover new content.


If it's any consolation, this will happen with nostr too and even faster than your other platforms.

And this is how it begins:
nostr:note16ymgczhg3aes06w5eckacng3zcvy5s74cn3eflj7cs88pghhtpgsxwx9xm


Maybe market to grown-ups instead.


In TLS also called certificate pinning.


This is weird.

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_7072767188319429051707925156.webp


I believe Play Protect is optional, is opt-in and you can opt out?


Not really. If by "women wearing men's clothes" you mean e.g. pants, ok, it's more like pants aren't considered to be "manly" anymore.

Actual men's clothes that are still considered "manly" like men's suits are considered as weird on women as women's clothes on men.


In the real world, the government raises taxes to fund public infrastructure. Pretty genius, huh?


Do that because I do fear.

Already got caught off guard by a fake nostr:npub1498f4ya5laqfp53vt02ewqnhe94tvnl0ek7gn2tu6qeppr2pzk2sllz3y7 the other day.

In computer science these are called pet names.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petname


It's one of the more stable global namespaces.


This is the equivalent of serialization using type classes in functional programming languages. You won't be able to do without for anything moderately complex.


The "broadcast" nature of nostr fits the broadcast nature of radio.


Wartel. Indonesia in the 90's

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_3066783459408620011707891947.webp


STD. ISD. PCO.

India in the 90's

https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_4835512605183238181707891815.webp


Concur.

We should mandate a year or so of backpacking for everyone the same way some countries mandate military service.


This.


Lol jeebus he's in a deep delusional hole is he.


Jesus gave me Bitcoiners so I may trigger them

nostr:note1sruzgd5medy7hzquymapk797c4tepgtj4s6588r9qq76vu086esqh4hx7g


nostr:npub10chlkc62tk7yr5m9qjc2u7rs3ufhhrq8yukeey0c5lysqkp2gumq93mnex joined nostr for "free speech" but when it arrived, he wasn't prepared


Try hammock driven development

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f84n5oFoZBc


Resting is Work
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength


nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s 's friends lol

nostr:note1wfemd5hd5h49ke8gcw2qa839ytydnakln9004frk0w7q0e874ycs5ntrzy


THIS.


Lol DNS.


Brace yourself for the crypto heresy of using the same EC keys for encryption and digital signatures. 😋


> What I don't quite follow - if the same key A is used to retrieve the messages how it is any better than having queue ID from the perspective of correlating messages to the users?

You need to collect metadata over time to get some value out of it. SimpleX durable queue IDs help with that. His scheme somehow only has ephemeral per-message keys where I don't know where they come from. He may be alluding to https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/44.md .

I suspect the idea is to post DMs to relays without a specific recipient coded into the message. A large number of *potential* recipients all download all DMs from the sender and attempt to decrypt them. This will succeed for those that were intended for them. The security comes from a large number of potential recipients connecting with their IP for download out of which the actual recipient is but one.

I doubt this will scale well, in line with nostr's overall hail mary approach to distributed systems architecture.


You provided a homophobe with a cue to vent some of their frustrations now the genie won't go back into the bottle.


That didn't last long did it. The decrepit little creature that nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s considers his best friend made like 3 fart-like noises before disappearing back into whatever hole it emerged out of.

nostr:note104j80ljlydqgstahkmkh459e3e2r8lr27jwxrg8a2ey47k8re9rs7jw4c3


The first step to being scammed is assuming a position of subordination.


A platform worth zero for bitcoins worth zero seems a good fit.


USD, the steady rock in troubled waters that everything is measured against


I can just take the infrastructure that nostr's "gay" people have created and reappropriate it for my own purposes. I can't do that with a real-world bar.


Buy more Bitcoin that'll fix things!!1!


The bigotry?


Yes simply "being human" doesn't get you very far these days. You have to be that special human.

Western societies last centuries were an exception in that you could do well enough but "just showing up" but it was an exceptional time and place and now it's just back to normal.

It's the normal and always has been for most human most everywhere, just visit any 3rd world country where you meet a lot "just being humans" barely scraping by. It's the default.


Any form of "labor" is worth very little now. Initiative, risk taking and entrepreneurship are what the market rewards. You go with the times or perish. Only losers whine & blame someone else.


1962 minimum wage $1.15


nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 be virtue signalling otherwise he would have just quietly muted him

https://www.theonion.com/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-televisi-1819565469


*15 years of nothing


In a surprising move, this year nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj will also turn his make-believe Bitcoin business into a real Bitcoin business!! Promise!!

nostr:note1hwp7qeck9qkfrpycrp6lqw3jzum5grjj37uar7tf9zldrnjf8h3s8p9rfv


After 15 of nothing the "utility-focused tech" will totally arrive this year, promise!!

And I thought the Yeti had eaten it.


This is about the Amber app for nostr, yes?


We're grownups here.


AWS S3 has a "reduced redundancy" option but yeah


Ah it's not legit if it doesn't come with a semblance of authority.


nostr:npub1aeh2zw4elewy5682lxc6xnlqzjnxksq303gwu2npfaxd49vmde6qcq4nwx joined nostr for the "free speech" but when it arrived, he wasn't prepared


Well why not say so then.


You paid dollars for a bitcoin transaction!!?


"don't stand out from the crowd"

surrender monkeys


nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 cough up the money already


I don't get this, is beef being sold for bitcoin?


The other day I realised I had forgotten the PIN to one of my debit cards.

So I went to the local bank branch and they just issued me a new one.

#yayfiat


Yay blockchain.

https://www.9news.com.au/technology/us-man-has-just-2-password-attempts-left-or-will-lose-300-million-bitcoin-fortune/fa9c5c1b-23bc-4107-a6f1-a3e288747027


What's your shop where I can buy things?


Or nostr:npub1exv22uulqnmlluszc4yk92jhs2e5ajcs6mu3t00a6avzjcalj9csm7d828


Don't do I too much though or I'll run out of people to lampoon.


*You're


Your items are priced in fiat? Your converting fiat prices to BTC at spot rates at checkout? That would mean prices in BTC fluctuate?

At least nostr.land is some attempt at stable pricing in BTC.

So your fiat income is your fiat customers and they subsidise your sat stacking hobby?


Blue Mauritius are like $11m these days hard to believe isn't it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauritius_%22Post_Office%22_stamps


Collecting Beanie Babies is a hobby not a business and so is moving fiat to bitcoin.

Maybe it wasn't meant to be seen as a business in the first place in which case mea culpa.


Which I suspect is how literally every bitcoin "business" out there works.


Strange business that pulls fiat out of nowhere. I assume you have other income like a job that pays fiat and subsidises server hosting.

That makes server hosting a make-believe business the way bitcoin is make-believe money.

Lol.


You have to pay Hetzner in fiat AFAIK.


Wen fiat payments for nostr.land?


That's not how congregations work.


He said 'Jehovah'!!!


Uh oh look who is on the defensive about their Beanie Babies clusterfuck.


He's writing in all caps it has to be true.


Nope. Although they plan to introduce mandatory testing where 10 friends of yours have to swear they ran it and and it appeared to work. In a way outsourcing the technical review.


What are these magical checks that people imagine the Play Store is performing.


It does exactly that, download from GitHub and install.

It also checks GitHub daily for updates so you don't have to. That's the main advantage over manual download & install.


He's writing in all capitals it must be true.


We have key managers now. FIDO, passkeys, WenAuthn etc.

That's my world.


Awesome.


Maybe being "live on TV" is a better analogy.

nostr:note1uta8dt0xdt8hezpmh5lvm6nw4uh8qj42x9qtxnp3zd6xesefx2cqtt4nd4


More like being live on TV.

Emails usually only go to one recipient so the damage is limited if you fumble it.

Un-deletable nostr has much more potential for public embarrassment.

nostr:note1uta8dt0xdt8hezpmh5lvm6nw4uh8qj42x9qtxnp3zd6xesefx2cqtt4nd4


Your bitcoin is worth zero.


He writes in all capitals it must be true.


RPi CM4 has some neat NVMe solutions with proper baseboards.


With certificates/"delegates" (nip-26) you can entrust the private key -- non-extractable -- to a hardware key store like Android Keystore, TPM, dunno what iShnitzels have.

Everything else is nincompoop shenanigans.


Your ambitions to be a North Korean dictator are kind of cute but in the real world the user decides what choices they have.


See my analogy to being "live on TV". Nostr is a decentralized broadcast network, you can't reliably delete things, no barrage of NIPs will change this.

nostr:note1uta8dt0xdt8hezpmh5lvm6nw4uh8qj42x9qtxnp3zd6xesefx2cqtt4nd4


Awesome, one more Bitcoiner to lampoon:

nostr:note104j80ljlydqgstahkmkh459e3e2r8lr27jwxrg8a2ey47k8re9rs7jw4c3


You forgot Beanie Babies in your "currency" chart.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/jan/18/coinbase-cryptocurrency-lawsuit-beanie-babies-securities-sec


Required reading for understanding financial systems and the economy:

What not to do: https://www.amazon.com/Extraordinary-Popular-Delusions-Madness-Crowds/dp/1897597320

What to do: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Natural_Economic_Order


Non-repudiation layer of course.


Ah sorry only the Council of the Elders of Bitcoin has access to it.


Lots of fun.


There isn't *the* key, SimpleX isn't nostr, the concept of digital identity is much more refined in SimpleX, there is a multitude of keys.

That's why you need the whole database, in addition to your contacts and messages it has your gazillion keys in them.

Not that I like that, I think it should be possible to reduce it all to just a few keys for the identity and one for each contact.

Stuff you can print out on a piece of paper if need be. This should be enough to at least re-bootstrap your network after a catastrophic loss.


You can always add a repudiation layer on top for your digital contracts etc. Just digitally signed stuff even offline maybe then send via SimpleX.


I think the transfer part is being improved on.


👍 Galt's Gulch

minus the Bitcoin of course


w00t Android


Oh hey buddy why don't you take your declaration and stick it somewhere.

This came out decades ago:
https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1337&context=dltr

It went nowhere. Instead we got Google and Facebook.

Doers do, dimwits declare.


Value of bitcoin in tangible stuff:

10 years ago -- zero
Today -- zero

Certainly stable in some sense.


Of course people like nostr:npub1fjqqy4a93z5zsjwsfxqhc2764kvykfdyttvldkkkdera8dr78vhsmmleku are so desperate and depraved only wet dreams of some sort of global dominance the kind of James Bond Villains will keep them afloat. That's why anything less has to be rejected.


Those kinds of things in small closed circles have a chance of representing some sort of reality. They're more like food stamps.

With a Karrot ledger here and a Foobarbaz ledger there etc. we're approaching the sharded ledger goal.


Dunno how Vitor handles this but I stick everything into my password manager.


Yes the developer key is subject to the same opsec as the Google Play or GitHub credentials.


Oh noes nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z you better hand over your bitcoin membership card now. 😂


And so it begins. The cyberwars of 2024 will be very entertaining. I'm getting popcorn.


Also irrespective of the technical and opsec aspects, in our circles of sovereign computing we sooner trust 60 devs than trust 1 Google Play.


I can obtain nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z 's Google Play credentials and submit a fake APK for Amethyst as much as I can obtain his GitHub credentials and put the APK there.

This is getting nowhere.


Ah here we go again, that mythical creature, the profitable Bitcoin business.

I think the Yeti may have eaten it.


You're saying that as if that was a good thing. Bitcoin being a zero-sum game means any BTC they hold you don't.


A developer has control over their GitHub account not more or less as they have over their Google Play or Fdroid account, not sure what you expect Google Play or Fdroid to verify there.


I hear you were involved


Direct APKs (Obtainium, GitHub etc.) are signed with the developer release key.

What have you been smoking.


Substack works too.


Put the npub into the Twitter profile or has Elmo outlawed this?

Apologies if it's already there I wouldn't have access to verify.


You can't be bitcoin unless you're also anti-vaxx. The scripture requires it.


Does he know this isn't a blockchain.


Bitcoin kills the pain


How's the certificates/"delegate" stuff coming along. Nip-26?


Lol nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m


Be sure to put a lot of effort into curating your Bluesky identity before it all goes to waste when your account gets cancelled.


All good somehow it could be clearer.


Ah was just going to say that.


Product pages like yours https://github.com/vitorpamplona/amethyst should really highlight that straight APKs from Obtainium or GitHub or whatever are the preferred download.

Because of different signatures the app source can't be easily changed later, it requires a reinstall with migrating data from the old to the new install, which can be a hassle.

Ran into this the other day wanting to install SimpleX from GitHub after originally getting it from Google Play.


Sharded ledgers FTW.


"We don't know how to build it" -- if "we" is humans on planet Earth that's a large set and makes negatives hard to prove. There could be a yak herder in outer Mongolia right now sitting in a yurt with their laptop, coding the shared ledger solution, and you wouldn't know about it.

The "if/when it exists, the news will reach me" attitude requires being well plugged into the global conversation, and one that bitcoin "shutting out the blasphemy" bigots can't afford.


Lovin' this thread.


https://github.com/dmjio/miso

My framework of choice. Can recommend.