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 There are better ways to have both privacy and a simple way to audit the supply like Bitcoin.

My idea of a privacy coin would work something like this:

1. Have a network of relay nodes constantly running symmetric data streams for uniformity, randomly routing data through the network in broken-up chunks
2. Have every minimum unit of the currency (every "Satoshi" equivalent) be its own keypair. When a user signs a transaction, it tells the network to generate new keypairs for each one in the transaction and give the recipient the new private keys
3. The public can see the pubkeys for every unit of the currency, but can't see which ones were and weren't transacted together in each block, because of each node in the network transmitting data in separate split-up chunks along random paths 
 Again tho, I love Monero because the feds might not

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 Monero is too hard or impossible to audit the supply of too because of this 

Still love Monero tho - because the feds don't seem too fond of it 
 There are better ways to have both privacy and a simple way to audit the supply like Bitcoin.

My idea of a privacy coin would work something like this:

1. Have a network of relay nodes constantly running symmetric data streams for uniformity, randomly routing data through the network in broken-up chunks
2. Have every minimum unit of the currency (every "Satoshi" equivalent) be its own keypair. When a user signs a transaction, it tells the network to generate new keypairs for each one in the transaction and give the recipient the new private keys
3. The public can see the pubkeys for every unit of the currency, but can't see which ones were and weren't transacted together in each block, because of each node in the network transmitting data in separate split-up chunks along random paths 
 It should fix the supply auditing problem, automated tools should be able to track the supply and transaction volume and stuff like with other cryptocurrencies, just not have "wallet addresses" to associate transactions and amounts with

Your wallet becomes a manager for a million little tiny wallets (if you have a million Satoshi equivalents)

However the aspect you say is like "sharding" may not be enough for privacy on its own. I'm thinking of it as basically something like Tor, but with each node always connecting to 2 others to transmit random data to each other at a constant bitrate for uniformity. This would solve issues Tor has with eavesdroppers being able to track traffic, but still would have Tor's issue of there being potential for anonymity to be compromised by malicious relay nodes.
I'm sure another layer of anonymity could and should be added to my design. I think Monero has something to offer there, conceptually.
Pushing anonymity tech forward takes a lot of math, need more brain power than mine.  
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 If someone non-technical asked you how to buy bitcoin and self-custody it, what resources and dev... 
 -What guides?

I'd try to be more of a guide to them than any link I can givs them, but I'd mainly want to give them some resources to help them learn about the concept of "open source" 

-Where to buy?

Through me or others who have it, avoiding any governmental KYC shit 

-How to store it?

I might buy them a trezor, recommend them to buy a trezor, or recommend them to use another cold storage solution with an airgapped Linux computer or something. Sinfully, in most cases, I actually recommend the least sus-looking open-source wallets for their phone, because that's what works in most cases, at least temporarily  
 Had a typo in there πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ 
 My favorite thing about them isn't relatable to most people, it's mainly not an audiophile thing about the sound or anything like that. I did a deep dive on all the data storage media's longevity and vinyl has by far the best shelf life. It could be really useful these days.

The downsides in the past were: it's hard to write data to a vinyl record, and it can be worn out more easily by reading from it instead of sitting on a shelf.
However, today there are Chinese toys that can write (horribly) to vinyl records. And there's expensive equipment that can use lasers to read vinyl like a CD without a damaging needle. With a bit of work, vinyl can come back as a valuable backup storage medium for the world.

It's not a coincidence that things developed this way. There's an inherent conflict between something's read/write durability and its shelf life - in principle, the easier it is to record data to something, the easier it is for environmental factors to rewrite that data at random, corrupting/deleting it. So a CD that claims to last a thousand years struggles to do so because it's hard to make it so the data can be written by a tiny weak laser, and can't be overwritten by years of slight temperature changes or anything like that. Cassette tapes likewise struggle with being unable to escape the world's magnetic field.

Every storage medium is a developing technology that continues being improved after its initial release, and vinyl record kept advancing after being "replaced" to where now it might have something to offer again.

Fuck man, digit would probably not hate this post. She might like how I used math words or something. I hope she's fine 
 Making computers read and write data using vinyl records is definitely one of the coolest things people are working on lately

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 My favorite thing about them isn't relatable to most people, it's mainly not an audiophile thing about the sound or anything like that. I did a deep dive on all the data storage media's longevity and vinyl has by far the best shelf life. It could be really useful these days.

The downsides in the past were: it's hard to write data to a vinyl record, and it can be worn out more easily by reading from it instead of sitting on a shelf.
However, today there are Chinese toys that can write (horribly) to vinyl records. And there's expensive equipment that can use lasers to read vinyl like a CD without a damaging needle. With a bit of work, vinyl can come back as a valuable backup storage medium for the world.

It's not a coincidence that things developed this way. There's an inherent conflict between something's read/write durability and its shelf life - in principle, the easier it is to record data to something, the easier it is for environmental factors to rewrite that data at random, corrupting/deleting it. So a CD that claims to last a thousand years struggles to do so because it's hard to make it so the data can be written by a tiny weak laser, and can't be overwritten by years of slight temperature changes or anything like that. Cassette tapes likewise struggle with being unable to escape the world's magnetic field.

Every storage medium is a developing technology that continues being improved after its initial release, and vinyl record kept advancing after being "replaced" to where now it might have something to offer again.

Fuck man, digit would probably not hate this post. She might like how I used math words or something. I hope she's fine 
 You're a kind soul playing matchmaker like this, look at you πŸ€™ 
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 The entire global bond market is dominated by the decisions of a dozen men who sign off the major... 
 This overstates their power a bit. The US dollar doesn't actually control the world, it's just been the dominant currency for a while  
 The bond market doesn't control the world in any way, denominated in any currency 

Capital has limited influence, and most of the capital with influence is land, not derivatives  
 I don't have a multinational corporation. I live on land

Your post was good, I'm just saying these men don't control everyone's individual lives. They've caused things to happen in everyone's lives, and they'll cause other things to happen, and you can cause things to happen to them too. They're mere mortal men with big well-connected ropes to pull on  
 The amount of time it took between Aaron Swartz's death and the emergence of Nostr was way too long 

Who else was on reddit getting banned repeatedly instead of learning to code and building the infrastructure needed to communicate?  
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   Hate explaining myself 🐝
  Who feel same πŸ‘€ 
 I feel the opposite, and I urge you to try to get over it because I know you have people like me in your life who need to talk to you about stuff πŸ’š (not that I know anything about you, just life experience) 
 I dunno if this reply is accurate, but nice bot! I like it 
 I wouldn't say accuracy is overrated, but it's ok, you seem like a work of genuine good will & you have some time to improve πŸ€™ 
 Is there any service to archive nostr posts via email? Like a bot that follows pubkeys and automatically emails you every day or every week with copies of all the posts from users it's following. You could call it nostrchives 

How are people archiving their posts in general? 
 I dunno if this reply is accurate, but nice bot! I like it 
 Short while after making this post I stumbled across @iefan πŸ•ŠοΈ with nostrsync.live

Looks like it's not automated, but it is an archival tool for #nostr

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 $33,636,013,783,185.72 (+) #NationalDebt 
 Imagine if Russia pulled a classic America move and used world war to inject its industrial strength with steroids πŸ€”

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 Is there a NIP for keychains, where nostr would recognize everything from a given key as being from another key with linked permission?

So you could have a primary key you only use once to link 2 other keys, one for everyday use and one you keep buried or locked in a safe for redoing the linking process if the other one is ever compromised.

Whenever you log into nostr, you enter your currently active everyday use key, but nostr displays your activity as coming from the original key.

Or could any login functionality work along the lines of a derivation scheme like BIP 44/49/84/87 ❓



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 @The: Daniel⚑️ were you thinking of something like this when you mentioned layers?

(had a typo before) 
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 No, you would white list in a non-forgeable way what your next npub will be so when your key is c... 
 Is there a NIP for keychains, where nostr would recognize everything from a given key as being from another key with linked permission?

So you could have a primary key you only use once to link 2 other keys, one for everyday use and one you keep buried or locked in a safe for redoing the linking process if the other one is ever compromised.

Whenever you log into nostr, you enter your currently active everyday use key, but nostr displays your activity as coming from the original key.

Or could any login functionality work along the lines of a derivation scheme like BIP 44/49/84/87 ❓



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 Reminds me of America 

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 PLOT TWIST: Nancy Pelosi

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 kinda love how everyone sits on my stoop. brought coffee out for the lady out there this morning.... 
 Having been homeless before this is much appreciated  
 If the world is lucky, you'll be very rich  
 So glad I was with ye in the 2020 election  
 More on the history between Lebanon and Israel

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 Nature is pure selling and advertising.

Commies in disbelief. 
 U wot m8?

Unfollowed cause this sounds like some psycho shiz to say 
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 Always sir, this all FOMO thing is not good at all... people change their frequency for literally... 
 Looks pretty good, thanks for the recommendation 
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 I love nostr, but my god, client interoperability is a train wreck. 
 It's not a train wreck, it's a moving train 

Idk what's wrong, stuff is falling off it or something, but it is moving 
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#dalle #pikalabs #aiart #animation 
 Nice job Algeria πŸ€™

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 Netanyitler

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 It’s almost that time where friends start asking β€œso you still into that #BitcoinΒ  thing?” 
 I dream of this day. People bringing it up while knowing it's got a picture of a dog on it. Not calling it "doj coin"  
 Don't give up on your friends too easily. Lifetimes are long 
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 I’ve decided to quit sharing any further reports coming out of the Middle East.

There is so mu... 
 Spend your time on less stressful things, friend πŸ™

There are enough problems to go around in the world, everyone doesn't need to share the big one 
 If anyone here is still shitcoining, go value your trades against BTC not USDT because it's all a... 
 Monero is too hard or impossible to audit the supply of too because of this 

Still love Monero tho - because the feds don't seem too fond of it 
 The real danger for Israeli captives is the bloodthirst of their fellow Israeli people

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 I'll be more impressed when there's one for dogecoin

And then what about ETC and Monero? πŸ˜‚ 
 Unfollowing for this weird FUD

Dogecoin is a meme and a currency, not sure how you're confused 
 What is it about THIS ERA that makes you think it's the one where the best cryptocurrency would be adopted? 🫡🀣 
 I already can tell you prefer your imagination over looking at price charts from you not being into dogecoin. You don't have to say all the extra details of your fantasy  
 Sarcasm won't make your fantasies reality 
 I didn't dodge it, I addressed the point very well 
 This seems true for now sadly 
 Surprised so far I haven't noticed anyone else using multiple separate keypairs. At least one for everyday use and one you keep more secure for extra verification purposes.

I wouldn't want to put this npub on a business card when the nsec has been entered in apps on my phone, you know? Would rather have a more secure key that I keep up to date with links to my other active accounts  
 Good going, Russia πŸͺ†

#Israel #FreePalestine

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 Pretty awkward for the genociders when their victims take an opportunity to show humanity

Evil tends to uncomfortably deny compassion & mercy when forced to confront it

https://image.nostr.build/a58456a15847c3c1ac5e7f78a4b9535c65abef50ba4826d4fb91817448809e2d.jpg 
 And the IRS will then come after you so damn hard, you’ll  get audited, lose everything & might... 
 After a few days checking out #Nostr it seems like it sucks because nobody but me can design & implement a good new infrastructure plan

Kinda surprising - thought there might be more competition for credit or whatever 

Guess I better try not to die before fixing this thing  
 Working on it

I was a bit harsh though, good job to everyone doing genuine work on the useful parts of nostr πŸ™ 
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 Unfollowed because this seems disingenuous. Censorship is bad, bud 
 But it sounds like users and content creators don't have proper tools to make the choices they want 
 That's fair. I'd be willing to contribute to a bounty, someone more personally effected would have to come up with the bounty itself though, I wouldn't know the exact terms to set