Epic!!


Isolate that shadow!!! Solid


Yea when there's 40 people in the village maybe, but 20 million in a city is a very different set of trust and security scenarios.


The myth of greener grass....


Extreme censorship is murder so I get where you're coming from there....


Grifting Douch Bags gonna Grift....


Soooo close ha


Good to the last drop..,


A wonderful rare bit of sanity breaking through! Nice share and the comments are so dismissively perfect HA.


Look food is expensive, guy's just trying to get by   : )


Jus Chillin' pre Killin' : )

Metaphorically of course!


Guys would consider going to a Halloween party as a self immoleateing monk : )


I like the per hr breakdown - started at 1 an hr and keep trying to push that higher each year ....


Great crew!


Yup, they fucking pushed me : )


Including dying at home : )

Just kidding.....


Fuck off shit coin jr


So the math is how much longer do you get to live miserably hungry? Is that what I'm seeing?


Yo! Have fun, typos are forever here and that'r fine : )


Supply and demand is a bitch!


OB Rules!!!! Can't believe I run into this on Nostr about a gig a block from my old hood - fucking surreal : )

But that's OB for ya!


Setting up managed switches (VLANs, Spanning Tree, etc) via CLI was always just beyond my general school tech guy reach. I spent a full day setting up my first one from scratch yesterday with AI help and it was awesome. I get now. But I came in with a general understanding so it just gave me that extra focused immediate feedback that searching forums and manuals lack.
I can see it both helping and crippling us - its so crazy!


Awesome perspective that I wish folks could internalize! Do you really want to bomb and kill each other when all our asses are riding that pale blue dot in the void?! We are on our own, let's work together eh.


Cool! Old guitar teacher and I listened to that track on repeat for about a month when it first came out. And no, not to try and play more than that opening riff, but just in fn awe!


Step away from the Internet kid, you're losing your shit, go chill in a cabin somewhere and reset....


Nice! Have you ever hit an OCD chaos wall and rewired everything : ) !?


The adventures of Douch and Doucher! : )


Nice chatting good luck!


Then then realize how good they actually had it : )


Correct, I don't fill unknown gaps with "god", that is a cop out, I just don't know yet and that's fine.

There is plenty of stuff we know for sure to work on.

It's on the god is real crowd to show there is a reason to listen to what they say. With thousands of geographically and philososphically incompatible god stories around, it seems obvious that humans created all the gods. Ya can't have an all powerful god that can't even get a consensus on one spec in the universe.

The Church was the State, but used god as their stick to hold power over the Plebs. Right this very moment there is a young girl somewhere being forcibly mutilated in the name of a god.

I say they either prove they are right, or leave everyone else alone.


They are the same picture....


The ol joke, what's the last thing the biker saw, his asshole.. Ba doom ba...


The flaw in your 2nd sentence is making up a thing called god that is not there, detectable, nor necessary for humans or anything else to exist.

We are not passive rail cars, we are one of the millions of branches of evolutionary biochemistry that survived over billions of years that became conscious and can notice that we are "here". We're trying to figure out what here is and have created gods to help make sense of this amazing universe we find ourselves in.

As we build on each other's work, we found that we are not the center of that universe, but rather we are on a spec of dust hurtling through space around an average star in an average galaxy.

That reality is AWESOME! We only get 122 trips around that star at most, that is the preciousness of time in space.

Stay humble, stack Sats!


Talking to that crazy cat in the mirror again bro :  )


God is contingent on people creating gods. There is no other place god exists. Something like the speed of light through a vacuum is not at all contingent on people. I am confused by your statements, the motion of the train is contingent on the locomotive pulling it, but not so much about god as far as I can reason.


There is no objective  "nature of god" outside of human consciousness to be confused by.

How the universe came to exist is unknown, but you don't need god to explain any of it for the past 13 + billion years. How life began on Earth is unknown, but you don't need a god to explain any of it post life emerging. There are unknowns, but god filling in those gaps has proven to be historically silly.

What made god, what made that, and the rest of the turtles all the way down. Hand waves of supernatural this or that beginings or eternity is just a cop out IMHO.


You don't Need any amount of social engagement farming in your scroll. It is Not an essential nutrient.


What do you mean?


People have created gods everywhere there have been people. The makers are people that have created thousands of gods.


Damn! So sorry to hear that!


Ha!!!


Don't Forget to Stay Humble: they just need someone you love and then you're paying for those tickets yourself....


The real proof of work is doing good because its the right thing to do. No gods need to be created for that.


Complying with a tyrant "king of kings"  threats of eternal damnation have nothing to do with love.


I have very similar feelings on this. I heard a lot of "its fucking Game Stop loser, shut up about bitcoin" when I predicted 100,000 in 5 years 7-1-2026 . It would be satisfying to be right a year early I have to say : )


That was great, good job as always!


I liked this particular exchange between Chesterson and Bernard Shaw:

C: "to look at you, anyone would think a famine had struck England"

S: "to look at you, anyone would think you caused it"

:  )


The Sun will eat us someday, so we've still got that going for us!


Nice! Logos because ya want to > have to! Bad ass.


Plus he's just a cool dude, funny as hell - stoked for him!


"Nifty is is going places" : )


That is fucking awesome!! You are a bad ass, keep crushing it!


Yes!


This is super cool. Via Brian Roemmele:

“In 1936 many high school students saw this film. It was to help them understand manual transmissions.”

https://v.nostr.build/ZBOYXagNxq3aXShc.mp4


He doesn't know what cryptography is - he just innately senses the GRIFT potential - its his G-spot.


Great recap, sounds like a blast! I dig getting a view of the world through your interested in everything eyes! : )


The face plant to scorpion potential is so wonderful to anticipate! Bad ass...


The eagle would then need to get shot by gun guy in the full american telling..... : )


There's a great 4 gals walk into a bar joke in there somewhere where guys get schooled : )


Fuck off shit coin grifting douchbag!


And saves your sanity when one passes on as well... #twoDogMinimum


No screen to confirm the send address you sign is the same as the address you think you are signing. But very user friendly and does a great job of making it HARD to lose your keys with the backup options.


Yo!


Ill never forget Holly knocking out Ronda- that was awesome! Have fun kicking ass!


And a deadhead too, swooning : )


Him working through the 360 loop was hard core!


Its just People Hodl, people.


I'll take woke assholes over religious hypocrites every day - stunning to see all these "self-soverign" tough guys being such little bitches.

Stop blaming brown people for overrunning you culture and get busy building your own shit. Stop whining....


No one is being systematically murdered in camps you pussy, have some kids and provide value and you'll be fine.


Hey there soft, compliant, underclass third worlders - We Want You!

Did someone order a straw man?? : )


Emergency shelter for fly's?


Yep, long aluminium....


Just so I understand, you are claiming that thousands of these are in the air and are responsible for the lines everyone in the world sees in the other pictures you show?

Do I have that right?


Plus he's not wrong so there's that ha


The real story is humans only get 6 of those at most, but think that is a long time. Patience moron, Sagan is right and you might even live long enough to find out. : )


Stop flying jets I guess? Going back to propellers would do it too...


Or how many women are treated today in the middle east.....


Be cool to see them do something in Austin, the alley stench bombs walking around there are insane.


Yea, we'll see how this note of yours compares to Carl's in 20 years : )


Religion is similar to Communism: it sounds great in the planning meeting
but then real Priests and Nuns rape and abuse children and are protected by the church leadership. The reality never lives up to the con artist hype.

Verify, don't trust and double verify when folks say just have Faith!


Love bitcoin guy ha!


Your shit is legal to drink with you now!!


Nice, happened to me yesterday, was wondering. Have iOS and Graphine and iOS took about 5 min to open after I tried just letting it hang out instead of swiping around.

Ive hoped it could replace Phoenix for ease of lightning use - other than yesterday, its been working reliably though...


You from your herd calling the other herd a herd is the best thing I've heard today!


Doxed the dog!! : )


The words per minute difficulty adjustment is represented as well : )


Never underestimate what a dude will kill and snort if he thinks he'll get a centimeter of dick out of it.....


That is the Godzilla of camera tripod grippy thingys there! RUN :  )


Ah, the pendulum - Works great until the kids are converted to full-time health care workers for Dad's last 5 years in the sticks. Then back to slide one, rinse and repeat.

Changing bed pans between posts here : )


Oooh, now do Truman...


You can stack a lot of SATs with those Nobel prize winnings bro!


Yes!! Hit my first year anniversary of living this dream - great life hack!


Preach! Expensive as shit here : )


Carve life baby!!!


Is the photographer Irish by chance : )


Happy as a clam, just sick of DYOR silliness.


A 100 IQ person can do all the research they want and not be any closer to the truth of any topic that they couldn't comprehend if they spent their whole life studying it.

That's the fucking rub, with the DYOR nonsense.


Nice lipstick on that pig : )


Bad ass uni!


My phone is blowing up takes on a new meaning eh? : )


DDT baby!!!!

Right, kidding


Thanks for the share, just listened and it was great. Rick seemed genuinely to get it - very cool. Good intro to btc one to share with normies..


These are great, stoked


Nice! Those guys rip!


That is a very underrated strategy IMHO. Now that I bitcoin, I see things differently, but that was my go to motivator all the time - just keep plugging away at shit and eventually you know your shit : )


Awesome!!


This is why ya gotta stay humble, did you see what you were wearing back then too : )


Wonka Tag so you can eat it : )


Same, like what's with all the dead heads and no tunes?


Always has been.....


Reminds me of my Italian Buddys and their plastic covered couches as a kid in north jersey!


He' Beatle, he's bad as can, and he knows what he knows and he know he's the best! RIP B


This is something Apple does pretty well, it gets in 2nd or 3rd but learns the lessons of number 1. Not always, see Newton, Copland, but often.


Its absolutely amazing what folks are capable of iteratively building given time and resources. You waited for a kid to toss the newspaper at your house to see what was up at the start of that chart!


Do SATs go far in Taiwan? Is it an affordable city?


I'm guessing it rhymes with swaying fumble and jacking lats?


Such a great feeling when it catches up with the chain tip after the initial block download - little time preference tests everywhere in bitcoin : )


Sweet ride for adventures!


I for one thank you for distracting me with ancient wisdom  - forget those slides you're an improviser - it'll be fine! : )


I still need more bitcoin : )


Awesome, thanks! Saw his science preso tour a few years back and loved it.


Old one, but a good one!
tldr;
1. The universe is flat
2. The age of the universe has been measured, not guessed
3. Science does not nullify religion
4. We are all made of star stuff - more like, multiple stars
5. Complex life is likely very rare. Simple life is likely common
6. Jupiter and Saturn moving around the solar system is probably what allowed earth to exist i
7. We don't know if the universe is infinite, but it seems like it might be
8. We are likely only seeing a small fraction of the actual universe
9. nobody knows what came "before" the big bang, and it's not out of the real of possibility that these events reoccur and there is not one universe
10. We can actually see to the beginning of the universe, it's not theoretical

Highly recommend if you haven't seen this already, and are into this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/live/wieRZoJSVtw


Fun!


So cool! Thanks for sharing.


I wanna see the outtake where he fell and lost all body hair : )


Note to self: look into a species change; potential to be the fucking Einstein of Chimps rolling with that crew - small ponds and all...


Yes


As a vending machine : )


A physically challenging months long adventure when you are young is a must I think.  Go climb some metaphorical mountain somewhere, it'll feed your soul when you get to the "creaky" years that come to all.


This is what makes Nostr great, you crack me up man!


I’m checking out taiwan/taipei ahead of the japan bitcoin conference next week and decided to try making a vlog of my adventures 📸

first impression is really good!

https://m.primal.net/KpOq.mov


Worked the fiat mines for 49 years now.

Friend asked about bitcoin (Jan 21) cause I'm a tech guy; told him it was bad and boiled the oceans.

Told me to listen to Preston's Pod and by ep 5 with Saylor I was in.

Booked a vault demo with Justine Harper of UC and she was so reasonable that I skipped shit coins.

Now I have no fucking chairs and could not be happier - The end, and the beginning.


Plus 1!


Wife and I started watching Survivor when we started dating season 1 - people still go on that show and don't know this shit!! How is that possible? You are so bad ass!


Dude, that's just another rug pull, don't you see the pattern - its like 50 years of rug pulls from that guy : )


That's not a goof?! Fumble, unforced error - doh!

Like why would you lock your entire brand on being obnoxious? He's not even that obnoxious.....


Sort of related thematically to the OG X-Ray techs loosing thumbs before they realized....


Oh yeah, well what if I agree : )


Darwin would agree : )


"If the Thunder don't get ya, then the lightning will..." The Wheel by Hunter/Garcia 1972


I second Necromancer's reaction : )


Worked for Steve Jobs with that first OSX release, iterate baby!


Yeah!! Rocking


Nothing better than a fresh set of strings on an acoustic - 2 or 3 days of tonal bliss baby!

Go get it!


Look at you, always fucking wineing! : )


Wow, that us such a trip!

Looking back, I used to get annoyed that I had to be the tour guide for out of town guests that all wanted to go to the top of the towers. I occasionally have the urge to go back in time and punch my young douchbag face ha...


Seeing a bunch of Steve Vai love on Nostr was not on my bingo card, but love it!


Steve Vai - Windows to the Soul 🔊💜🔥

https://v.nostr.build/0WxAN47BAkKyJuMJ.mp4

In your...
Eyes...
I found...
Comfort...
And peace...

The treasure...
Of...
An endless...
Ocean...
Of love...
Lies...
In your...
Soul...
Behind...
The windows...
That are...
Your...
Eyes...

YT

https://youtu.be/XuQXDNMIY9s

#stevevai #tunestr


Grew up in Kearny across the river where the HS has a perfect view of the skyline to see them go up over the years - the down was so fn horrific.


TABCONF was my first ever bitcoin technical conference and i really had a great time running the base58 village there last year! def check it out ✈ nostr:note1n5d8qjzvalde9q8xeysvdqlxzymwqx9fqsl7qnux25dh09h2lj3qj8kad8


Hands down the best physics textbook I know.

Learning dynamical systems theory will make you see vector fields everywhere like Neo sees the green numbers.
https://files.sovbit.host/media/50d94fc2d8580c682b071a542f8b1e31a200b0508bab95a33bef0855df281d63/70588dded80a542d6e096ef131dfff8fb9c84c7007f38356e4c782f74a9436fc.webp


Worked at a school district as a "tech guy" and they had just upgraded to a T1 line at each highschool to the district office - Netscape was so cool!!! 30,000 people sharing 3 a  megabit connection and it was fine ha!


the city we’re holding the first ever brazilian nostr:npub1dwah6u025f2yy9dgwlsndntlfy85vf0t2eze5rdg2mxg99k4mucqxz7c52 in, florianopolis, just got named the “national startup city” for brazil 🇧🇷 very cool https://image.nostr.build/7192ad1db1ecd323c3907f3f3238655bd6ee96ce43a58ac6ac7df32b6e98225a.jpg


Is it weird the I want even more speed, storage and performance HA, yea I feel this one too!


He said squirrel!! Gotta go


Preach!!!


Ah!! Well that's a lesson for me that I need to actually read the post!!! Ha


The cops' reply is fucking insane! So only short cops have to carry, wtf. With 45 ish school shootings this year, you are not overreacting at all!


Agreed - I see the same thing in my world!


This is why bitcoiners for Jesus are so interesting to me. Religion is not logical - its first principle is faith. Yet the intellectual honesty about that doesn't seem to follow, but only in this one realm. That's weird I think.


Subtitles opened a whole new level of awesome for me! That taunting by the French is so good!


Coolness = 11
OpSec = 0
Ha, awesome!


Reached +2 next...


People are the problem and they run everything. Everyone is just running the grift they can - from harmlessly "borrowing" some office supplies to hooking your buds up with a billion in defence contracts. Its all networking in the end. Its bro deals all the way down...


Did you go back and get the beer!?


Back flip off the high tower ha!


Like a machine! Bad ass


I like the rock covers of Kiss From A Rose. I think I like Johnson's the best between the ones that are out there.

They don't really compete with the original of course but they breathe new life into the song for rock fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2_KiGjV65U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFOemr0BOQA&list=RDo-d3FzFOAGQ&index=14


Very cool summary thanks!!


The education site licenses were awesome!!!


Sooo good!


Yo!!


A mind that can call Trump and Kennedy a great team capable of anything grand is pumping his own bag - plus the irony of the gay blast and then calling ME 6 was fucking funny - that was good!


Beavis and Butt-head!

Trump's just a Grifting Douchbag and Kennedy is scrambling for a gig - just a capitulating puss now.

Seeing bitcoiners support the King of Fiat Scamers for the past 40 years is so fucking surreal!


The girl has a point! Welcome


Agreed! But I'm old too ha


Everyone already opted out 40 years ago dude - this is what we got because of that complacency you currently endorse. You kids were born into it, so I get your laziness and capitulation, but its still sad to see.


Ya did think it was too loud though so : )


Welcome, find some folks you align with, follow their follows to get some content flowing and have fun. Set up a lightning wallet to get a taste of what its like to be able to send and receive value anywhere at anytime.


Functioning Legitimate Democratic Political Organizations don't exist here. Including those run by lifelong grifting douchbags.


Saw Trump announced, The Defiant Ones, looks like game over for bitcoin eh :  )


Focused breathing is my fav, gratitude versions are good for the head too.


They give you the questions to ask those around you as part of it and then you have to follow up, but my ADHD doesn't allow for that. 5 years I've been trying to finish : )


If your god needs to spend 40% of his rules puffing out his chest and threatening eternal damnation is he really all powerful?

Like if there are hundreds of religions created by man and you god isn't powerful enough to convince everyone on a spec of dust in the universe, ya might want to keep seeking the truth on yhat topic I think.


They're both bullshit, get some fucking nuance and stop gas lighting shit and wasting everyone's scroll.....


'Candy' : )


The shitty part of crying wolf just to gain control over folks is that wolfs are real. So when a real one does show up its gonna suck. A lot.


Excellent, cold storage is best : )


Nonsense  morals like let's kill a virgin on a rock so it'll rain ....


Sold!


The Irony of censoring his life is funniest part : )


My dog started barking at the screen immediately : )


Sorry Ross, Trump is a grifting douche and RFK has less chance than Ross Perot....


Perfection - Nostr ladies are so bad ass!!


Awesome work!


Yo!


Which ever one is not a grifting douchbag....


Shit, 35 proof of work ha?


I'm totally in your camp on this one - bring on something that can go big for future real things.


I do remember being nervous the first time i set one up thinking that it was somehow dangerous in a vaguely dark web something or other way : )


Just put on your favorite little number and proudly walk out of that closet bro, it'll be fine - really....


Good evening Nostr!

Here’s a show review, which some here have been waiting for. It's one of the few shows I've liked in years.

But before that, it’s also about how Nostr social graphs can make reviews better. I tend to write long, but I do so with a purpose. If you don't give a fuck about the context and want to cut this down by more than half, I'd happily recommend you scroll down past the context session toward the review section.

*Context*:

My excitement and enjoyment hit rate of liking shows and movies lately has been quite low. It’s probably because I’m at odds with my general culture. As we go through a transitional period or weird zeitgeist or “fourth turning”, it’s rare to actually find visual content I like. I’ve had to turn to novels instead over the past several years. Visual productions have a lot of people watching over them and fixing them (i.e. making them worse) whereas a book still has a main author that can kind of put his or her concept out there, which is neat.

Back in my teen years, I liked anime a lot. So I’ve got a nostalgic base there. Cowboy Bebop was my defining favorite, but also Trigun, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Baccano!, Code Geass, Full Metal Alchemist, Akira, Samurai Champloo, FLCL, Durarara!!, and both Dragon Ball Z and Naruto kind of embarrassingly, and then also of course Studio Ghibli productions like Princess Mononoke, Howl’s Moving Castle, and Spirited Away.

While American television in the 1990s and early 2000s was episodic and happy, Japanese shows tended to be darker, more emotional, and tended to have continuity from one episode to another and tell a more linear and complete story, as though I was watching a continuous graphic novel from beginning to end. That caught me, and decades later I still remember their plots.

After that, from my mid-twenties and beyond as I was more seriously focused on my professional life, I occasionally tried to watch newer animes in the 2010s and thereafter, but I rarely connected with them like I once did. They felt too immature, or something wasn’t clicking. I liked action, but I didn’t like kid/teen drama and immature heroes, or something adjacent to that. I loved what I grew up on, but new things felt weak, as though I outgrew them. Occasionally something was decent. That’s where Baccano! and Durarara!! and the Brotherhood version of Full Metal Alchemist kind of filled the transitional gap. But I grew apart from the genre.

As an insanely busy person, one of the things I lack for mature anime is a good discovery mechanism, which imo relates to the social graph and Nostr here. I don’t go out and look for good anime anymore, and even if I were to find a high-rated one, I wouldn’t know if those ratings are from a hundred-thousand 15 year olds that might not appeal to me in my 30s. Those reviews aren't context-related.

Some weeks ago, Shinobi aggressively shilled Blue Eye Samurai on Twitter as one of his highest recommendations in years. Over many years I’ve followed him for bitcoin tech content, some of which I agree with or disagree with, but always find value in seeing his viewpoint, and over those years I also know somewhat about a bit of our overlapping anime tastes including Cowboy Bebop, and this was one of the few times where he aggressively shilled a new animated show. So, it caught my attention.

That brings me to my point about social graphs. An aggressively positive review from someone you know with overlapping interests with you is worth 100x random reviews. I hadn’t even heard of this show despite it being released over six months ago, and I watched this 80% because a single taste-relevant connection aggressively shilled it, and 20% because upon googling it the other mass reviews said it was unusually good too.

*Review*:

https://m.primal.net/Jklr.jpg

I watched the 8-episode first season of Blue Eye Samurai. It will have a second season, so it’s not complete, which admittedly kind of annoys me.

But holy hell is this show fucking good. I loved it, which for me is unusual. We start with an interesting protagonist, the blue-eye samurai, and then we increasingly learn about their backstory, which is better than expected. It could have fallen into all sorts of cultural traps but did not; instead it just told a good story. Like the old days.

The animation is great, the story is great, etc. Great protagonists, great antagonists.

The first three episodes are solid and expected from watchers of the genre, but then in episode four it went into completely unexpected territory. I was like, holy shit! And then episode five was also absolutely amazing. That middle period is where I confirmed that this show was truly special, and that a lot of thought went into it.

The next few episodes were great, and without spoilers, my criticism is that it could have ended on a more satisfying and convincing note. I need to see follow-on seasons to truly judge the show. The middle-season was the strongest part thus far, but the early and late season parts were still great.

Rated R, highly mature in terms of violence and sex, but also brought back a sense of nostalgia. Amazing visuals, perfect voice acting, and not quite but nearly perfect storytelling. I have some criticisms, increasingly toward the end, but still open since the show hasn’t ended yet. My husband also brought up similar criticisms.

As a frequent cynic, disappointed with what I watch, I was absolutely thrilled with this, which is rare for me. Later seasons might fuck it up, but in terms of potential, this first season is great, and brings me back to my nostalgic mature anime days.

I’ll watch the second season as soon as it’s out, good or bad.


First up, I want to recognize that this is an uncomfortable topic!  Bitcoin is inevitably changing towards user-pays, and that's not all positive.  But facts we don't like are still facts: can't engineer a solution if we can't think about the problems.

There are three kinds of bitcoiners.
A. Those who can afford any fee.
B. Those who can afford a UTXO, but not often.
C. Those who can't afford a UTXO.

Nobody worries about the A group (and in the early days, that was everyone).  Obviously Lightning (my area!) caters to the B group, and we want it to be as large as possible.  To do this we can (1) make lightning as resiliant as we can so onchain spends are rare, (2) make bitcoin as efficient as possible so we can cram as much as we can into what we have.

(1) Making lightning more resilient and reliable is engineering.  Lots of people working on this, even before we get soft-forks which could help further.

(2) More efficiency has two benefits: obviously if your own onchain spends are 20% smaller, that's 20% cheaper.  But if *everyone's* onchain spends are 20% smaller, that means fees are lower *for everyone* too (and it's non-linear).  So we really care about all Bitcoin usage!  Some things are obvious wins: Taproot so you can avoid even putting the script onchain in many cases, FROST so you can cram your 2 of 3 or other scheme into a single key and signature.  We know we want to get more aggressive with sharing one signature across multiple inputs (Cross Input Signature Aggregation), but that needs a lot more research, and a soft-fork.

But even with all these, the math is clear: some people, even if you somehow gave them their wealth in a UTXO, it couldn't afford its own fees to spend.  The C group is real.  Spoiler alert: we don't have an answer for this!  But let's look at some approaches people have tried.

Firstly, there are attempts to move these people into the B group: give them long enough that maybe fees will reach a point they can afford.  This seems unlikely to me:
1. As fees increase everyone will start doing the work to take advantage of low fee times, and that itself means that low-fee times won't be so low.
2. These schemes tend to increase onchain footprints, so they need fees to drop a lot to overcome that (typical is 2x the transaction size, so you need fees to halve to gain anything).
3. If you really can't afford the fee, you probably also can't afford to wait.
4. You still haven't actually dealt with those who really, really can't afford the fees.  Ever.

Another suggestion is that someone (e.g. a lightning service provider) will lock up funds which would cover fees, in case something goes wrong.  This doesn't work economically, because nobody is paying $100 for a $5 user (not at scale), but it doesn't even work mathematically: the reason some people will have small UTXOs is because there are not enough sats for 10 billion people with any realistic distribution.

There are two basic approaches left:
1. Group people, so they fall into the B category (i.e. onchain tx is possible, but expensive).
2. Trust someone, but rely on incentives.

1. Grouping people is possible, but they need to work together if somenthing goes wrong.  So grouping inside a community is probably better than grouping with randos.

For example, there are various tree-of-transaction schemes where you go onchain only if the coordinator fails/goes rogue, and how much it costs you depends on whether anyone near you in the tree pays to get themselves out.  These are basically free if nothing goes wrong (one UTXO required for thousands of users!).  But this is subject to ghettoization, where the coordinator makes sure all the C people are grouped together, knowing none of them can afford the transactions they need to get their funds back.  It's particularly bad because the coordinator can insert its own fake "whales" to make it look like it's not ghettoized.

You can play with incentives here, too: more research needed.  The details matter!

2. Relying on incentives.

As a simple example, lightning-connected e-cash mints.  They can't rug individuals very easily, they have to rug everyone together (or go fractional and rug the last ones to exit).   Maybe with enough anonymity and reputation, these would be Good Enough.

More ambitious would be a single UTXO held for multiple people by a coordinator.   Can we make it so that if a coordinator is dishonest, you can force them to burn your funds?  Maybe burn more than your funds (ie. a bond)?  Won't get your money, but it aligns incentives so they're not motivated to rug you.  The details here really matter!

There's a cute scheme which has been proposed where the coordinator pays a temporary bond, and asserts that they actually have everyone's signature to transfer the funds.  If nobody challenges within a week, they get the bond back and the funds move.  If someone challenges, all the signatures are put onchain, and if they're not all valid, the bond gets half-burned and half-given to the (successful) challenger.  This is hard to make work, though.  Someone needs to get the money to challenge (hard if you don't have the money in the first place, plus it's hard to prove to someone you *didn't* sign something!), and then make sure nobody gets the challenge bond before them (in particular, a dishonest coordinator, seeing the game is up, completes the successful challenge *themselves* and gets half their bond back), and make sure someone can't grief and delay the settlement indefinitely or bankrupt the coordinator.

More research needed, here, too.

Summary

A longer post than I had expected to write.  And it's buried in the middle of a thread nobody will read.  (I do this sometimes.  I suck at marketing I guess!)

Sub-fee bitcoin amounts will have tradeoffs, involving trusting someone who has more money than you (at least, in someone's competence, even if their *financial* incentives can be made to match yours).  This is difficult to build well, and not a very exciting thing to build today, so it hasn't really happened (custodial things are much, much easier!).

This is also a key reason I believe we need to make Bitcoin more expressive: if we can do *more* with our own UTXOs, we can build better solutions.  And by "we" I mean "someone smarter than me" of course!

Feedback welcome!


Not so much a want, but it's what you'd expect to see if bitcoin is actually working  - the window for a regular "Joe" to be a whole coiner is closing I think...


Have fun being heard?


Two sure bets in my view:
1. Bitcoin will be worth more than $200,000 in 10 years

2. The next 10 years will all be in the top 25 hottest years in recorded history. And the coldest year in recorded history record will not be broken in the next 20 years.


Probably nothing to do with the whole centralised child abuse and rape over the past few centries right?

I'm sure they were just putting the "fear of God" in the kids eh?


Religions are a centralized shit coins run by grifters, hard pass....


Looks awesome! Have you built skate pools as well?


"We know" HA!!! OK Dr. Jeff Swan of YouTube University....


Looking back with these old eyes, I concur!


As the great often Jack says, you're here, that's enough! Welcome


Accesorizing is key to a great look...


Bring a tiny rug too : )


Excellent question, I've got one of those tickets- wonder if i'm early bird rugged : )


I loved seeing it be develpoed over these couple years, warts and all. Just feels like you happened upon some hard working Amish like town where everyone was pitching in and making shit happen. Just very bottom up!


He's done nothing except fuck contractors over from the late 70s all the way through the Taj Mahal days in Atlantic City. That is what he is - pulls the rug, then sells it then sues you!


Why didn't the swamp creature empty the swamp is the best! They have lots of answers doh! :)


The most interesting thing for me is learning just how far your simp ass head is up Trump's asshole this week.


Wet talking visual,  music??