You missed my point, but also I now see that we are much further separated ideologically than I had thought. This issue is not between us, but we are just opining on it, Yet I get the sense to no benefit. So I wish you well and I will voice my opinions on this matter in a nostr community I setup after I do the prerequisite coding.  Thanks for engaging with me and being civil.


I must have walked more these past 5 days in Tokyo than in the entire prior month.  If I lived here, with the small meals too, my body weight would normalize at a much healthier level.


Buildings forever in every direction.

https://image.nostr.build/45db4a0b3770cd6f1c0dfc1e7ea5f2bb80db908027e05fbc549e8d38f337c8ab.jpg


If you ignore all history your moral lines will shift markedly. Capital punishment appears as murder. A retaliation becomes an attack. In fact it is possible to view Hamas's attacks as slow motion retaliations that happened much later because it takes a very long time to prepare in their condition.

Some people have different moral rules. An eye for an eye combined with collective guilt (or just the belief that all adult Israelis serve in the IDF thus they are all guilty and legit targets) would insist that Palestine is owed tens of thousands of eyes from any Israeli they can get them from. This is NOT my view. I am highlighting a deep flaw in the very idea of being guided by morals outside of a population that shares the same morals.

Having said that, should I abandon sympathy for Palestinian children because their society runs on different moral codes,?  Is it okay to treat them as animals and exterminate them because by following their moral guidelines they threaten my society?

I think not but I don't have the answers.


OK. Thanks.


I've always found the anger to be reactionary, temporary, if we keep talking it works itself out and the love and respect is long term. I usually aspire to come to some common ground before quitting, even if it is emotionally taxing for me. Sometimes I have a lot of background opinion to aire first so it may take a while.

But these client ideas are interesting. Maybe different techniques could be trial run to see how they affect the discourse.


Also I hate how arguing makes me feel. My blood pressure jacks up and I get knots in my stomach.  I'm naturally an agreeable person not a disagreeable one who enjoys argument. But I argue anyways out of a sense of duty.


Hama's claims they went after IDF soldiers in their beds before sunrise. That explains many dead bodies being almost all men. I saw very little evidence if dead children. Some burned out in a car are disputed whose weapon did that. Hama's rockets aren't that powerful. I heard an Israeli woman from the Nova nature rave say that many of the people were killed by IDF crossfire, super intense killing everyone to make sure they killed the terrorists. This is the Hannibal directive. Israel blames all death they dirextly caused via the Hannibal directive on Hamas. So they show bodies killed by IDF and sell it to their people as being killed by Hamas in some cases. Also non-Hamas extremists took advantage of the gaps in the wall and raped, tortured, etc, and Hanas says it was not them . I don't believe Hama's or Israel, but the Hamas story is plausible. Israels has sone gaps given so many dead men vs women and children, no beheaded babies, etc.  I do not know what is actually true, I can only weigh the very incomplete  evidence I have.

Ben Shapiro made a point to show what Hama's did in its full disgusting way to convince people Hamas is evil, and so I thought he would have incentive to show the most evil stuff.

Let me be very clear. I do not defend any killings. I think life is precious. I think Hamas is bad.  So was hiroshima, carpet Bombing of Dresden, and bombing if Gaza.

I think kidnapping is morally preferable to murder and was a smart strategic move, but still immoral on the whole.


I'm sure we do disagree as to the facts if October 7.  I reviewed hours of disgusting videos. I then listened to Hamas repr in Lebanon explain. His words were consistent with the videos. Israels were not. If you think the videos must then be biased, they were from Ben Shapiro.


You said the following things that I find to be extreme:

All previous history is irrelevant.

Events must not be justified.

(Victims were) targeted for not just murder but torture of the most barbaric heinous and intensely personal kind (I think that is extreme with the facts)

All their suffering is entirely Hama's fault

I find all those views to be extreme.


OK I backed away for your benefit, clearly that was not appreciated so I will persist.

I will explain my accusation which was as to what you said not who you are. Unfortunately I can't read your post as I type lemme try another nostr client.


We disagree as to the facts. And as to perspective. I hear only one side extremism from you so I don't think discussion is a good idea.


Both sides craft a narrative that places all the blame on the other side. I think the blame is a giant mess on both sides.

If one side sees (or imagines) a tiger in a cage poked at and shot through the ankles, having poked his paw out to claw blood from his captor, those onlookers cheering such violence can be understood. It is not that surprising that people will cheer when the little guy gets a punch in, even if you abhor all the fighting. It doesn't require any fucked up ideology.


His theory is either wrong or incomplete because I went the other direction. For 7 years I had nothing in common with progressives, then the reaction to this situation in Israel was the first time in ages where they made sense to me again.

He can only hold the opinion he has by pretending Israel has been nice to Palestine and Palestine out of the blue based on raw hate with no reason for that hate decided to murder innocent people because they fundamentally have a death based ideology.

If he spent a day really talking to Palestinians he would hear a very different perspective. If he spent time in the West Bank then I think his illusions about what Israel is doing would fall away.

The insanely abused lashed out against what they see as the abuser. Horrible that innocent people were caught up in that. But he has no sense of perspective.

That's my opinion. I hope not to anger anyone with that opinion. I respect your right to disagree


Yes. I used to wireguard to my VPS at data centre to tunnel past some dodgey hardware and my ISP both.


I take offense at that post!


OK yes VPN hides who you connect to from your ISP. But VPN knows, so you just swapped the relevant party. Only works if your VPN provider is more trustworthy than your ISP, and I don't trust VPN providers. They are magnets for spy agencies.


If you want to hide your IP on the Internet, use tor. Or a VPN you trust (I don't know how anyone trusts any VPN though for this purpose). VPNs are useful to trick Geo gated content, I wouldn't trust them for protecting your privacy. So for me its tor or you are just fooling yourself

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OK you should have thatcontrolI. If you trust Bob and he sent you to NSA maybe trust was misplaced. He signed his relay list. Websites don't digitally sign their content so bad links there or XSS from other user input is a far bigger problem than nostr relay references. They put tremendous effort that content is safe because the web stack is massive and riddled with security bugs including 0days right now.  Nostr stackisverysimplee but it is not provably secure, still much easier to trust simple stack with hardened language like rust (please don't attack me for being rust fan boi)


Browsers make many arbitrary requests to servers you didn't specify to fetch page resources. I like to block that with uBlock origin. Clients *should* put the user in control with white lists and/or blacklists. Practically though, the attack surface from websockets and nostr events is incredibly smaller than that of a web page so I don't think that is an important feature at this point, even for paranoid tor users.

Beyond that, if you don't fetch bob's events from where he publishes them, what else can be done in the case that you want to follow Bob?


Love how you cut right through the bullshit wrapping a concept. Respect nostr:npub1y67n93njx27lzmg9ua37ce7csvq4awvl6ynfqffzfssvdn7mq9vqlhq62h followed.


Nostriches getting ready for day 3

https://media.tenor.com/-OZDsWuayvAAAAAd/wasted-hungover.gif


Start with double sided tape and a 20 year old mp3 player


Interesting idea. I'll think about that and look at the code when I get home.


Love your mind, envy your eloquence. Thank you for serving the people.  :hug: nostr:npub1sn0wdenkukak0d9dfczzeacvhkrgz92ak56egt7vdgzn8pv2wfqqhrjdv9


The next nostr conference should be called Pablomerica


anybody at #nostrasia that can charge my usb-c phone is my special friend.


I just let a toilet wash my ass for the first time. pleasantly surprised.

The purpose of the "flush sound" audio player remains a mystery to me.


Yep. I was busy breaking copy protection on Commodore64 games (with tools I didnt write). Older friends showed me BBS   dial up boards.


I can confirm the venue is setting up. Stopped in while seeking brekkie


Niles from Frasier has a gift wrapping room


I used to make free phone calls from payphones.  I remember BBS systems but I didn't use them


Before the Internet, life was just swell.  The options available for information input were limited, and so people spent less time consuming information and more time interacting with their environment (e.g. playing outside, or working on something physical).  Now we are all addicted to the information, as it takes much less effort to get a 'bump' than actually doing things does. Now all of this sitting and staring all day long is killing us.  OK I can't speak for you.  It is killing me.

I will see many of you soon in Tokyo.


Nice view of Fukushima Daiichii 5.

jk


how about a nice game of chess?


We mustn't allow the government to obtain a monopoly on disinformation.  The nostr democratizes disinformation.  We remain free to be bullshit.


I just keep saying the only word I know, you say goodbye, I say こんにちは


You know you want to... you cannot stop yourself now...


The particular examples I gave were not the point. BUT your comment intrigues me as it reflects the ideas of John Stewart Mill.  I want to fully understand the arguments presented by people who actually believe them, not strawman imitations.  If you want to present an argument, please do so as a new thread and tag me, and I'll weigh in where I can.


I'm not too familiar with UK parties, but this is hilarious

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do it, you don’t want to regret it later on 🤗 https://i.nostr.build/dBn4.jpg


I am positively sick to my stomach about all the killing of chidren and worse, that 99% of U.S. politicians are on record to openly support   unmitigated unrestricted unmonitored killing of children based on extreme racism that is just as extreme if not more-so than that of the Nazis.

How can this be? Are American politicians representative? Are 99% of humans so cold? I don't think it is true. I think America is captured. I've said that before, but this argument is stronger than any I've ever made in the past. The alternative is unthinkable.

Sick to my stomach.


# Chorus: The Inevitable has Happened

As I recently confessed on Telegram I have been unable to stop myself from writing a relay. One part of my brain kept telling me "Focus on gossip!" but other parts kept solving problems and demanding I code those solutions somewhere. So I gave in. This is not to say that I have a working relay, far from it. But I have started coding. I hope OpenSats won't be too upset as I'm being funded for gossip, not for anything I damn well please, so I won't make this a big part of my day-to-day activities (unless they are cool with it) I'll just work on it a bit here and there. Also it so happens that much of this work will flow into gossip (more efficient storage) and improve gossip (better testing against relays).

I've gotten to the point in the process where thinking about zero-copy and zero-allocation is necessary.

## When writing incoming events, one easy-to-code solution does 3 copies and lots of little mallocs:

- Websocket event buffer --serde_json--> heap nostr_types::Event  (N mallocs + 1 translation)
- heap nostr_types::Event --speedy serialize--> Vec (1 mallocs + 1 translation)
- Vec --LMDB mdb_put--> LMDB memory map (0 mallocs + 1 copy)

Pre-allocating a reusable memory buffer doesn't really help that first copy because there  will be lots of strings which each get separately allocated on the heap due to the nature of the nostr_types::Event structure.

The last two steps are two separate steps because LMDB doesn't allow a function to compose a value into the database directly, it requires the value to be pre-composed as a vector somewhere, which means it requires a copy from that vector.  Copies aren't very expensive if there are no mallocs (as in this case) but we still would rather avoid them if we can.

## mmap-append removes the final copy

I am storing events in a memory map that I manage myself, rather than into LMDB. This is primarily to avoid double-lookups where they aren't needed. If indexes yield an Id, then I have to translate from Id to Event which is another tree lookup. If indexes yield a memory offset, no translation necessary, it is direct. I can do that by storing events in my own memory map and indexing the memory offset where they are stored.  mmap-append was crafted to be multi-thread safe with only writers locking other writers, and readers not requiring any locks at all (even while a write is happening).

But mmap-append gives me one more benefit. I can write the value directly in place, so we get this:

- Websocket event buffer --serde_json--> heap nostr_types::Event  (N mallocs + 1 translation)
- heap nostr_types::Event --speedy serialize--> mmap-append memory map (0 mallocs + 1 translation)

To do this I would use speedy Writable::bytes_needed() and Writable::write_to_buffer().

NOTE: speedy Context should be default endianness for the machine, so it becomes a no-op.

## Getting down to just one copy

If I dispense with nostr_types::Event and create a serialized event structure that allows easy
direct field access with minimal parsing, I could potentially get down to just this:

- Websocket event buffer --custom_speedy--> mmap-append memory map (0 mallocs + 1 translation)

However, this custom speedy serialize function would need to parse JSON and build the custom serialized structure, which is a lot for a function to do. On reading, it would need to do the reverse. It would probably need to have two-passes, one to compute the length, and the second to do it, unless I modify mmap-append to shrink the appended result after the function writes (which I think I should do). It would need to deal with fields coming in any order too. Given all the string normalization and escape sequences, I would rely on serde_json to translate each string rather than try to rewrite that part.

## Alternative approach:

If we just left all events in their JSON format, we would also have a single copy, and wouldn't use any translation/serialization, and no allocation, something like this

- Websocket event buffer --copy--> mmap-append memory map (0 mallocs + 1 copy)

This is also super easy, and it is super fast. But the downsides are significant:

- Events are not compressed and take more space, and worse yet
- Events don't have easy access to fields, all accesses require parsing, multiple accesses then require repeating the same parsing multiple times

## Final Thoughts

Now that I've worked this out and written this up, I can put my mind to other tasks and come back around to actually doing this later on.

Nostrasia starts in three days. I won't be doing much coding for the next 9 days.


Ah, Hercules lesser-known little brother!


It just looks like a whale, but actually it's a Ukrainian


I have a mild-moderate anxiety of flying that is tolerable with avoidance behaviours, but I'd rather not have any. So I was researching how to overcome fear of flying, and this is what I discovered (to my dismay (sounds scary!) and suprise (didn't know that))


For those afraid of flying, the best therapy is to fly and to try to panic the whole time, avoiding all behaviors that distract you or make you feel safe. Think about crashing, imagine your body is extra heavy, try to mentally force the plane into the ground.

What will happen is (1) you will panic and be very anxious - it will not be comfortable at all - but this is not at all dangerous (like exercise, it is good for you) and (2) reality will demonstrate to you that you cannot crash this plane, that the plane is safe, and most importantly (3) the part of your brain that needs to learn this cannot learn it any other way.  Knowing that this stratagy works does NOTHING to solve the anxiety. You have to actually do it, because the part of your mind that needs to learn cannot be talked to.

Any avoidance behavior (alcohol, headphones, reading, pulling down the shades) just gives your lower animal mind the excuse to believe that the avoidance behavior is what protected you, and so it doesn't learn that airplanes are actually very safe places.


    My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, anyplace, anytime. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line, and kiss my arse.

—Christopher Hitchens


What are you planning to use for the heavy angled falling blade?


7 if you count the sock puppet accounts


While living in a cramped sleep-out I rarely used it because I didn't have space - it was usually stored in my storage container.  Now I'm in my new house and it has its own place in my kitchen pantry/processing room.  I roasted some 6 year old green beans.  They taste as fresh as ever.  I didn't expect them to last that long, or at least I thought they would develop some kind of rancid flavor. But nope.


Objects in mirror are closer than they appear


Did Russia bomb the Nord Stream?  Did Bashar al-Assad drop chlorine on Syrians?  Is Putin a dangerous maniac?  Is Trump a dangerous maniac? Did Republicans try to overthrow the US government with zip-ties and a fuzzy viking hat? Are all Palestinians terrorists in training? Are pro-Palestinian demonstrators celebrating terrorism? Was COVID of natural origin? Was the pulse nightclub shooter anti-LGBT? Did Derek Chauvin murder George Floyd?

I have no data on North Korea. I'm just saying that I don't trust much anymore.


Given the extent of the misinformation I've been waking up to over the last 7 years... it's a possibility.


I had thought so.  But then later you posted a layover pic from Sydney.  I guess you posted out of order.


I just compared my beans to some pictures online.  I'm at either City+ or Full City, not Vienna.  There was no second crack, no oils on the surface.


Kenya FAQ   NZ$22.35/kg
Colombia Huila El Desarrollo NZ$18.78/kg
Guatemala Santa Rosa NZ$18.78/kg

You'll have to do the unit conversions.


I use Chemex from time to time, but it takes too long.  French press is for people without patience.


I usually do medium roasts. For some reason I decided to go darker recently.


What city is that?


Being a frugal do-it-yourself kind of guy, I just bought 12 kg of green coffee beans sourced from Kenya, Guatamala and Colombia (all arabica high altitude hard beans) that I'm roasting in my Behmor 1600 toaster-oven-looking coffee roaster, to about a Vienna level, blending, and then making my coffee in a french press. Easy and tasty.


I will keep an eye out for a frog


Me too!


For comparison:

Japan government debt is 224% of GDP (one of the highest debts)
USA govt debt is 122.16% of GDP (from figure)
New Zealand government debt is 36.9% of GDP but was as low as 16.6% in 2008.
Russia is in surplus of 16.1% of GDP
Singapore is in surplus of 171% of GDP (one of the highest surpluses)


It is possible to create a digital ID that allows you to prove to a liquor store that you are over 21 without disclosing your actual birthday, name, or any other identifying information, by having a third party (e.g. the government) trusted by the liquor store attest to it.  In this case the government signs a certificate certifying your ability to buy alcohol (for example) tied to your public key that the vendor verifies, and you show that cert to any vendor at any time and the government doesn't know and can't stop it.

The problem is that government issued digital IDs are unlikely to respect your liberty and will likely give the government a way to cut you off, instead of doing it right.

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Does it require putting something on a blockchain somewhere?


And I'll bet the doctor can do three of them per day.


One of those events is invalid. I would tell you which one if I could cut and paste it.


"These people are a thorn in our sides. Let's wipe them out."
	- Israel re: Gaza

"These people are a thorn in our sides. Let's wipe them out."
	- Iran re: Israel

"These people are a thorn in our sides. Let's wipe them out."
	- US re: Iran

"These people are a thorn in our sides. Let's wipe them out."
	- Russia and China re: US


If you have deep pockets and you want to stop some smaller organisation from growing, here is how:

1) Fund them. Be their biggest funder. But not quite so much that they can cause you any trouble or competition or whatever.
2) If they try to get any other source of funding, threaten to pull your funding.


Flying
Does not tap while attacking.
"Born with wings of light and a sword of faith, this heavenly incarnation embodies both fury and purity."


Ok I may be wrong.  Mabye I2P is more anonymous.  I never really dug into I2P


If Tor is not anonymous, then nothing is.  And it very well might be the latter. An onion site on Tor is as good as you'll be able to get (IMHO).

VPN is not anonymous to the VPN provider.


Don't take my comment to mean that I don't want China involved. China is a balancing force here, which is a good thing. The unipolar moment has lead to atrocities, and a multipolar world will mitigate those atrocities. Instead of the US and Israel doing anything they want, slaughtering Arabs wherever they can, Russia and China are saying "you cannot do that anymore." That sounds like a good thing to me.

I just didn't think China would step up. This is the beginning of a new era in geopolitics.

As to your specific comment about them not harshly controlling nations:  They haven't needed to. And in a multipolar world they will continue to behave well in order to maintain good will with all the other powers. But I'm a realist when it comes to international foreign relations, and I believe nations will behave like psychopaths and do whatever is in their best interest (as we have so clearly seen with Israel and also with the USA), so IMHO China only behaves well because it is currently in China's best interest.

In general, we've seen how large groups of people behave this way over and over.  We've seen it in corporations (refer to movie: "The Corporation (2003)") and I believe many of the same mechanisms extend to nations, and indeed all large groups of people.


I thought Iran might get dragged in. And Russia would probably get involved via proxy. And China might verbally support Russia or support them via trade.

But I really didn't think China would get involved with warships, at least not this early. This is a big suprise to me. China has seemed to care only about the South China Sea, not the Middle East.  The fact that they are making these statements and sending in six warships is worrying.


If everybody used the same 2 relays, yes.  But if everybody chooses different 2 relays it's not centralizing.  You don't need to "be on" a relay to read somebody's notes from it. You just need to connect and read, and you can stay connected if you want their future notes as they arrive, or you can come back later for more.


I don't recall where I heard the "14" number, so take that as low-value and possibly wrong.

I did hear from Osama Hamdan (a Hamas representative in Lebanon)  via the link below that many of the people who flowed through the wall into Israel were not Hamas operatives, but other militants who took the opportunity once the path was opened, and they were not working under Hamas leadership, and that some of the killings were not condoned or ordered by Hamas (who still claims they only went after military personnel in line with UN rules of war).
https://www.patreon.com/posts/hamas-rep-will-91415177

Of course I have no idea what is true. I usually only accept something as a fact if both sides accept it.


This morning there were dark storm clouds about. But no arthritis pain in my knee. Then the clouds thinned out and it was a sunny hot day. 2 for 2.

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Twitter has become mobs of poorly-informed yet certain-in-their-position people yelling at each other.


Not Hamas, but Islamic Jihad. There are something like 14 different militant groups in Palestine, and everybody calls them Hamas.

I don't have an opinion on this situation where the facts are disputed. Only on situations where both sides agree to the facts.  Like all the other hospitals and healtcare centres that have been bombed, some warned ahead of time. Neither side disputes it. So why focus on this one? We all know that the rapist is arguing "self defense" when the woman being raped punches him.


I'm confused as to what you mean.


If all the clients used the outbox model, I think 2 relays is about right.  My webpage is on only on one server and that has been fine - it is rarely down and nobody has tried to censor it (yet).  Why should it be different for my nostr content?  All the redundancy in nostr is only prematurely clogging up the relays for very little benefit. We can always scale up and use more relays for more redundancy if we find ourselves under a censorship attack, or whenever relay failures are common, and we can scale down and be less redundant as relays are more reliable.

But given that some clients aren't looking for events in people's declared outboxes (and many people don't declare anything at all), we still have a lot of unnecessary redundancy and even event copying (I think).


You might not even need a butcher for that.  I just butchered an animal today. Breakfast was baked backstrap and black coffee.  I would have eggs too except my german shepherd dog is far too "interested" in chooks.


I'll open the place in the morning and lock up at night and generally manage things?


GM


I think we could improve the quality of debate by orders of magnitude with a recipe something like this:

1) The debate is moderated by A.I.
2) As soon as the A.I. detects a person is not directly answering a question, it cuts off their mic and they lose that turn.
3) Everybody has a fixed time to answer, and only one microphone is active at a time so people cannot talk over each other


I buy Italian style crackers that are made in Ukraine. They used to be 500g.  Now they are 350g for an identical-looking package.  I think it is because the other 150g are produced in terroritory captured by Russia.


This release is just patching a few bugs.  The master branch is far ahead of this release.


GOSSIP 0.8.2 has been released

9 bugfixes and 2 important improvements.  See changelog or git history for details.

It might run a bit slower, but your database should not corrupt in the case of a system crash anymore.

Due to multiple reports that the AppImage didn't work last time, I'm not able to provide one until I come up with (or somebody provides me) a recipe that actually works.

dd26c54f18069220c017974ec324818cfaa8abed09f5c36091c636931e575877  changelog.txt
e1e6149e34b95de289a08cdedda32d9b1b44544a4925d6e23980489603d772cf  filter.rhai.example
25b5372911a2f699358eab7d641426e5a75ab31596cf5473a5adecce84ec7ca3  gossip_0.8.2_amd64.deb
460b5f449c1b8a15081b259acbd2799541f283d519e28f742c83a74a729317a4  gossip-0.8.2-Darwin-arm64.dmg
dc4dad4ce8c15fa5bd8ee9d040a12465dfd3bf80e4f311280b07a4360c120520  gossip-0.8.2-Darwin-x86_64.dmg
cc9190aa86d5b9c669e13316f1bb4480706340222afe8670d70e59a7b5055b68  gossip.0.8.2.msi
60a0275523aba27b3b8979e43ee212d33fd2cf7f76be7f177fffbf3ea02609aa  gossip-0.8.2.tar.gz
8daa6294a4b7b402eed1e3df349fb81bb408dcc79537c54360251a2c38dc8f2b  gossip.0.8.2.wxs
e2860f22b4ae91017e138509f14a0c6c7e63aaae1bda7178b85020301b67cce4  LICENSE.txt
702bd583d106ed3d142f7cf92eb86a681fa93a7e46c3a1643773374694242bf2  README.macos.txt
65a1e61fc5374f7c391f230856809c8b37c8527c25a7a0d9113ce46d8920a8ef  README.txt


So I just noticed that nostr filters cannot contain prefixes anymore. I wish somebody had told me about this breaking change.


Wow, he is far better at this technique than I am. I stand in awe.


You make good points. But I'm a problem-solver by nature and so I'm gonna keep trying to come up with solutions. Please forgive any naivity on my part.


Maybe Argentina should consider bitcoin


I can say that this is misinformation. But I'm not willing to explain how I know that.


If I could talk to one of those children, maimed with a missing limb, burnt skin, screaming in pain, I would say to them "you shouldn't have voted for Hamas!".  And if he talks back I would retort with "Israel has a right to defend itself, you ****ing anti-semite!"


Nostr isn't ready. Well at least the gossip client isn't.  Apparently you can upload media via Amethyst client (NIP-95).

I think the world saw the Al Ahli Baptist Hospital bombing that killed more than 500, and all the leaders are asking the right questions.  IDF claims it wasn't them.  Of course I'm skeptical given that they said that hey would bomb the hospitals, and because this tactic is very common (US claimed didn't bomb Doctors w/o Borders in Afghanistan, blamed it on Afghans; then said Taliban had taken it over; then said they did it as an accident; months later admitted they did it on purpose).  BUT just because I'm skeptical doesn't mean I jump to conclusions.  Nevertheless, it is a horrible thing.


Whoever repackaged this... well what can I say...  There is no country in the world free of bozos.


Developers constantly translating to/from hex/npub. PITA.  But we have to suffer to make it easy for the plebs.


And ideally they only need to be served to the tagged person, if you AUTH you can check that.  But that isn't strictly necessary.


Also you should allow deletes from the person tagged, not the random author


MPI sucks. I'm sorry about your bad experiences shipping to New Zealand. I guess I'll have to keep roasting my own.

But damn, this is one of the few things I would be spending bitcoin on.


GM to everyone on the Nostr!


Hamas was voted in in 2006 or something like that.  Only 22% of people alive now (I think) were part of that vote, so they should probably have another one.  They may have changed their minds.  At the time of the original vote, there is evidence Israeli leaders wanted Hamas to win so they could treat them militarily instead of needing to continue the peace process, and starved Fatah of campaign funds...  but maybe that's just what some idiot said. Surely many of them still support violence.

In any case, Israel has legitimate security concerns.  But so does Gaza.  So IMHO Israel should not be the one enforcing the peace, a third party should step in and do it. And I know the U.N. is a dumpster fire, but it is all the world has, even Putin still works with it because there is no alternative.  So maybe a U.N. peacekeeping force could be utilized. Israel would not agree, so it would have to be forced upon them.

I support Israel's right to exist, but only if they support Palestine's right to exist. They've had a long time to work that out, and when pressed they just point to the one part of the negotiations where Arafat rejected a bad deal, as though that was the end of all possible negotiations.  At some point someone has to call it full-time on this delaying and revoke recognition of Israel as a state. Yes, that's hardball, but they don't respond to anything other.


That is so me.  I have a great relationship with all the neighbor dogs, but the neighbors themselves I rarely talk to.


No, Israel has to fight back when attacked. I support Israel defending itself.

But fighting back by cutting off their water supply?  I understand cutting off fuel. I even understand stopping aid temporarily (due to weapons smuggling). But cutting off their water when half of them are kids and then they drink ocean water and get sick... that is not acceptable.  Nor is bombing mostly civilian areas to kill a few Hamas members.  They need to wait for a clear shot, or storm the place and take out the terrorists without killing the civilians.

On a totally different topic, with IDF assistance Israelis have been slowly taking Palestinian land in the West Bank.  Or, maybe that is not completely unrelated.


I should add that I don't think the PDP-11 abstraction is a bad thing. If programmers had to code to the real hardware, we wouldn't be able to handle it. Those complex compilers are necessary. It really is primarily a hardware issue. Language that make parallelism easy like rust are going to help a lot, and now that CPUs are all multi-core, the industry has to fix that issue everywhere else too.  The instruction-level parallelism hacks have become so complex they just aren't maintainable, and their complexity scales exponentially.   BTW one of my best mates in University did his PhD on branch prediction in 1994 I think.  I blame him ;-)


Good news: I'm getting better at predicting rainy weather

Bad news: via arthritis in my knee


I was hopeful that RISC-V wasn't going to go down this path, but the biggest players did.  SiFive went straight down the ILP pathway with branch prediction and out-of-order execution (on their higher-end processors).


Something like that (it is not a quote of a particular person) was the belief of a lot of people as the Internet was coming online.


Do we have a PR on NIP-65 to add a 'dm' relay where we specify the kinds of events?  If not we should open it and start the debate


Ok sure we can do that. We haven't done it yet. So this is just for expermentation then at present?


Ok the problem here is that if I specify that relay as my 'read' relay, clients will send kind-1 events and they will fail. Then I wont get that event at all.  Most clients don't fail over to the next read relay.  There is no way I can tell people per-event-kind which relay to use.


Now with the Internet breaking down barriers, where everybody knows everybody, we are all like one big happy country, fear and hatred towards "the other" has become entirely a thing of the past. We will never engage in war again.

🫤


Less than hoped for.  But hope springs eternal I guess.


Oh right, my relay tests showed several relays at relay.tools were among the best performers according to my made-up metric.  Nice work.


Replies are supposed to propogate p-tags from parents, so they should already be accepted. But sometimes people drop a p tag and you might want those, so that is fine.  Accepting too much is better than the inverse.

Is there a relay tech you are working on for this?  I have resisted splitting my time, but I have the idea in my head clearly, using rust and LMDB and the indexes all worked out, it would be a binary plus a systemd init script, that creates a data dir and config file, no libraries or junk to install.

[I try to do the opposite of what Ruby did to me --- ruby fucked one of my servers once, trying to install mastodon or owncloud or something like that years ago, requiring boatloads of shit that broke other software that used different versions of that same shit. So I try to ship independent binaries with no dependencies]


Great context, thanks.


Yes that is true.


I wish there were more pro-Israel opinions countering my partly-educated defense of the other side, so I could rapidly learn the parts I don't know via civil debate and be corrected (and that could work both ways). But people are too angry to have civil debate, especially on X, where you just get called names and retorts are just extremist opinions stated as fact.

it is difficult to engage with people that disagree with you, so most people prefer the easier life of staying in their comfort zone. I think that is fine most of the time, otherwise you make life miserable for yourself.

But engaging with people who disagree with you would be a lot easier if we were all nice to each other irrespective of belief.  I long for those days to return.


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😁


May I ask a few questions?  If all REQs require AUTH, and somebody wants to send me a kind-1 reply, you accept the AUTH even if you don't know them?  Or sorry, you don't take kind-1?  If I make it an inbox relay, people will try to put all kinds of inbox events there, and you will only take some of those?   Or do you accept it all and only allow the p-tagged person to read the ones of the kinds you listed?

I think an inbox needs to accept anything tagging the authorized users, of any kind, but only allow the authorized tagged user to read those back. Then no content needs to be moderated because only the recipient can see it.  In my inbox design, I would also accept and serve 10002 from everybody just to promote that, but it's not necessary.


I've heard that "death to X" doesn't literally mean death, it's a colloquialism.  They say things like "death to politeness" meaning let's stop being polite for the moment.  But I could be wrong, I don't speak Arabic, so this could be wild misinformation. Do your own research.

There is a hadith from "the Prophet" roughly translated as:

	Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

That is quoted in the Hamas 1988 charter (translation here is questionable, the original is not in english and probably doesn' t have these parentheticals) as:

   "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

This quote, which is not a direct call to action, being in the Hamas charter, is all the evidence Israel needs to claim Hamas intends to kill all the Jews.

Incidently the new 2017 Hamas charter doesn't include that quote anymore and they are very clear this time that they have no problem whatsoever with people practicing the Jewish religion, only with the taking of their land by Zionists (You could say it's a lie and a public relations stunt, and i could not adjudicate that).

I think everybody exaggerates.  Israel is not commiting a genocide, but it is directionally correct.  Gaza is not an open-air prison, but it is directionally correct.  Palestinians do not all hate Jews, but it is directionally correct.


Kind. It is the kind of another event also referenced, usually.  In a PR (that I can't find at the moment) it is the effective kind of an event whose kind field is used to indicate it is a community-only event.


BTW, your event I am replying to does not 'p' tag me.


There are conditions where gossip could clobber this data in theory, and some of them are not fixable by any client.

Someone could write an updated contact list to a relay nobody ever heard about before, and no client is going to notice it is the newest event.

Gossip takes these precautions:
1) When generating your contact list, it looks up in the local storage your newest contact list event, and uses the contents of that.
2) To be sure it probably has your newest contact list event, it remains subscribed to them on all your write relays.

In trying to answer this question, I just found a bug where it doesn't remain subscribed. I will fix that. But that means the conditions necessary for the clobber to happen are:

a) You were using gossip while using another client simultaneously, and
b) When you started gossip, you had no relays in your contact list, and
c) Then you added relays to your contact list via that other client, and
d) Then you published your contact list from gossip.

This is not good, but doesn't match the scenario in question because (b) is not likely true. To get a complete clobber, something eise is going on.


There have been a few proposals, such as putting the files on nostr in base32, PR 751 media attachments, etc.

I think your comment is important. I don't like the single-URL references.  Because events can't easily be censored (we can copy them elsewhere and nothing breaks) but URLs can.  It must be that the file reference doesn't break if the files have to be moved.

I suggest using a SHA256 hash of the file as the file reference, with an indication of some sort of distributed storage (DHT, IPFS, etc) which should be flexible so that alternate distributed storage schemes can be added over time.  The hash of the file will never become a broken link.


Every time I post, my spam filter blocks 3-4 events (probably a-drop replies to my posts)


I see your kind 10002 (event id=013a4560aa5009db815e056b1b9ca3c37ee69688d7598629d082c774ed4545c2) with 4 relays.
I see your kind 3 (event id=557b6848a2ace6eb31982d0a9feb26bca7dd0bf4de4ea043c7230c19483c6342) with empty contents.

When gossip publishes kind 10002 it does not also publish kind 3.  If it updates your contact list (kind 3) it preserves the content from the previous contact list event opaquely.  I don't know how kind=3 content got emptied, but that is a recurring problem for multiple people.  I'm not sure if anybody has done testing to diagnose which clients are doing that.

If gossip somehow is emptying kind 3 contents I most certainly want to know about it, but I'm pretty sure it's not.


I'm still subscribed to earthquake alerts and software updates and similar things, but the accounts that offer opinions on Twitter can all go get stuffed at this point. I'm done.


Reaction events can be anywhere. Everywhere. The only way to count for sure is to look EVERYWHERE.  That is a problem when there are a thousand relays.

Relays could signal support for having some back-end broad counting system, and the COUNT command, and then you could just cheat by copying the answer off of a relay that you trust who has already asked thousands of relays, so that your client won't need to.  I don't know how well this idea has been implemented on relay-side or client-side.  Gossip client is not doing it.


The only person I'm tempted to try and be a carbon copy of is nostr:npub1jk9h2jsa8hjmtm9qlcca942473gnyhuynz5rmgve0dlu6hpeazxqc3lqz7

I will resist that temptation, as you advise.


The part I didn't mention is that community feeds will be separate feeds, and if you are in such a feed, you see all the notes in that community, not just the ones of people you follow.  That I'm pretty settled on.

It's really a question of how you go about finding a community, and I thought showing in-community posts in your following feed was a good way to do it, as long as you can subsequently opt-out of communities you aren't interested in.


A lot of muted people reply to me. I have no idea what they are saying.  I will keep working on nostr (not "for nostr") irrespective of circumstance.


I'm taking this out of the Gaza thread because we are talking about nostr in there (can't stop talking about nostr!)
nostr:nevent1qqs9s4kxyc49fjpj4e4t9zkydsx54z75s90pkq7cfkdc5azp8ytf59sppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qy08wumn8ghj7mn0wd68yttsw43zuam9d3kx7unyv4ezumn9wshszythwden5te0dehhxarj9emkjmn99uq32amnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwv3sk6atn9e5k7tcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43z7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejz7qg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucn89u0uys09

I'm trying to work out how to deal with nip72 communities on the client. My first thought was to show all notes in all communities that were written by someone you follow, but to let people opt-out per community.  But it could also be the case that you need to find a link into a community and opt in. I'm leaning towards the former still. Thoughts?


He is right in that:
* Monetizing engagement amplifies the most exciting content
* There is incentive to make exciting disinformation and get paid for it
* So Twitter is packed full of disinformation

But:
* Twitter doesn't have as much gate keeping, it is closer to free speech, and gatekeeping has it's own problems
* We haven't had this much easy-access world-wide free speech before and are not used to it yet
* There is no authorative source for what is credible and trustworthy, so:
* Everybody needs to learn who to trust and who to discount, and stop following liars

Unfortunately, humans prefer to believe what confirms their prior beliefs rather than do that rigorous fact check from time to time in order to curate reputation information and learn who to trust. I don't know how to fix humans.


I'm not a good person to ask because I only use gossip.... that forces me to add/fix gossip lest my own experience suffer.


It has the same complexity issues that the 'k' tag does, where you need an event.effective_kind() and do all your indexes against the effective kind.  With delegation, you need an effective_author() and do all your indexes thusly.  I'm simplifying.


Do not take the gossip implementation of delegation to mean that I support that alternative. I suspect there is a better way. I haven't looked into it much.  It was someone else's PR that I just merged.  Delegation is kind-of a pain, but I added an index to make it less costly.


Eh...  I'd hit that

🤣


I have an AMD system (AMD Ryzen 9 5900X) and I've not experienced this.  I guess it doesn't hit everybody.


Yes I was putting replies to the original note (replies to my own original note) on purpose, because they were not related to each other, only related by being under the same OP.  Threads fork.  I was forking.  Maybe that makes them harder to read on clients that copied twitter.


That is totally unacceptable in this day and age


New Zealand is just some fluff on the carpet


I never even thought of doing what Damus does.  Now that I'm thinking about it, I prefer threads for less duplication.  I would expect on a small screen you'd lose context easily and so I understand why that pattern makes sense.  I wonder if that pattern was used in the twitter client.


20 Then the Lord said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous 21 that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.”

22 The men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the Lord.[b] 23 Then Abraham approached him and said: “Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked? 24 What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare[c] the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it? 25 Far be it from you to do such a thing—to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?”

26 The Lord said, “If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake.”

27 Then Abraham spoke up again: “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, though I am nothing but dust and ashes, 28 what if the number of the righteous is five less than fifty? Will you destroy the whole city for lack of five people?”

“If I find forty-five there,” he said, “I will not destroy it.”

29 Once again he spoke to him, “What if only forty are found there?”

He said, “For the sake of forty, I will not do it.”

30 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak. What if only thirty can be found there?”

He answered, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.”

31 Abraham said, “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, what if only twenty can be found there?”

He said, “For the sake of twenty, I will not destroy it.”

32 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?”

He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”

33 When the Lord had finished speaking with Abraham, he left, and Abraham returned home.


I tried that but it's like starting over with 0 followers.


Interesting. I like avoiding single points of failure.


I'm not sure what you mean by "different replies on the topic".  I thread is different replies to a parent.  Did you mean different top-level posts on a topic?


Once we can silo controversial content, it will be even less promotive of negative engagement.  Twitter has none of that.


is it 753?


What kind number? Is there a PR?


Thanks, that makes sense. I'm leaning towards your solution for the short term.

But it won't work completely in the long term because some posts on the topic will be by people I don't follow onto relays I cannot find, so the complete solution will need to address issues brought up by nostr:npub1m8ku9p5y3wxkrzep3mkfh2rng3km65c6et65cf09pjc6yjz3a58s9qeuuj too.


For more clarity on why I want to silo posts:  (1) some people have unfollowed me who I think probably wouldn't have if they knew they would never hear me talk about that topic again, and (2) I can't stomach the political posts from Howard Chu on ActivityPub so I stopped following him, even though I really do want to still want to see anything he posts that is technical.  So I'm looking at the problem from both sides.


I looked at that and it appears they don't silo community posts at all, those posts are top level posts in existing clients.


Ok, please share guidance on how to do it your way. I don't understand.


I like this and I'd like some guidance on how to implement this.


It looks like such posts would show up as top-level posts in clients that have not implemented NIP 72, and even if they do implement NIP-72 it is unclear what they would do.  So I don't think it achieves the same thing.

Having a relay-based community where the topic stays on the relay would, but I don't know if that's been NIPped either.


Is there a NIP for that?


Gossip has a switch to only follow top-level posts of people you follow. Maybe we can use this situation as a way to think of other things clients can do to help people curate their feeds.


The supposed "day of jihad" that the pro-Israel right panicked about, warning us that Muslim immigration would lead to this "we told you so"....

..was 2 knife attacks. Worldwide.

I think maybe there are fewer Muslim extremists than people made it out to be.


I guess more accurately I don't want people to unfollow me because they strongly disagree with my opinion on this matter, when we get along just fine on other matters.  So I'm siloing this devisive topic so as not to aggrevate people.


There is one. Official announcements come from there.

Still, it's good to keep topical posts topical.


“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” [Netanyahu] told a meeting of his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”

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https://twitter.com/Stella_Assange/status/1713287639447601375


Meta has deleted the page of the Quds News Network, the largest Palestinian news page on the platform.


This woman who has documented the horrors of Gaza has had all of her material removed from YouTube.

She still has it all on Odysee:  https://odysee.com/@EvaKareneBartlett:9


NBC news is claiming that Hamas had top secret plans to attack children in schools.

The attack was pre-dawn on Sabbath.

Think about it.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1712943385424642281


I have been holding myself back from saying a lot of things about the Israel Gaza situation because I feel that most of my followers care about the gossip client, not about my opinion on that matter.  I dont want to take advantage of that.  Nostr is still young and I need a way to "spam" a lot of information about this conflict without spamming people who are just trying to get updates on the gossip client.

I've just decided that the way I'm going to attempt this is to make my new posts on this topic as replies to this post.


In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.

Friedrich Nietzsche


That is the clearest UFO footage I've ever seen


Sounds like you know a lot more than I do about all that.  What principles can be gleaned?  I don't know. The issues of nationalism and interventionism remain very murky in my stack of ideals.  Generally nationalism feels unnatural to me - humans never evolved to live in such large groups. I think that smaller groups (tribes) have more wars, but maybe among less people involved in each.  But larger groups wield more concentrated power and win.

I'd love to hear if you come to any interesting conclusions.


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That's a common opinion.

My opinion is that they are extremist freedom fighters possibly following old-testament rules of "an eye for an eye" in a collective sense, and as such Hamas is trying to eventually kill as many Jews as Jews have killed of them, which means they think they have a hell of a lot more eyes to take. Even according to Jews, they have the law of an eye for an eye, and also their Noahide law of justice requires them to carry it out. Both sides are required to retaliate or else they are sinning. Due to asymmetric capability, Hamas' retaliations may take a couple of years, doesn't mean they are not retaliations. The idea that everything that Hamas does is evil because it is unprovoked, and Israel's response is righteous because it is the retaliation, can be seen in the exact opposite light if you are on the other side. Given that Hamas' actions are always a response too (the right view is both are responding), just a slow, pre-meditated, takes a long time to get their shit together kind of a response.

I do not support Hamas. Trying to honestly understand someone isn't the same thing as taking their side.  Sun Tzu said we should know our enemy.

In this 105 year long fight for land, I take nobody's side.


I posted what they say because pro-Israel people were saying what they were saying that Hamas wants to X (shudder the thought!) and Hamas wants to Y (tremble in fear and support us!) and Hamas says so themselves and "when a person tells you who they are, believe them."

So being a skeptic, I checked. Is Hamas saying what pro-Israel people say they are saying.  No, they aren't.

The topic was not about the content of what Hamas said, if it is true, why Israel is doing what Israel is doing.  It's fine to change the subject, but I point this out because you lead off with "you forgot to ..." which is disingenuous as I didn't forget a damn thing.

"Israel made me do it" is not at all a good summary.  At this point, I don't think I can talk with you any longer because your brain seems to be filled with worms.  Please take no offense, I just desire to have more intelligent conversations than this.


First of all, strange of me to forget to say something competely off topic from what I was saying.  I'll try to remember to say everything that is off topic next time.

And second, I also call for the end to the State of Israel. Zionism is a failed experiment. But rather than Palestine (an Islamic State) they should replace it with a secular state that doesn't practice pseudo-religio-racial Apartheid.  In particular, I support the view of Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro.


Yeah well, weird thing happened. I noticed a pattern in their behavior and then only later noticed them claiming that is how they behave.

But I'm sure they are subhuman death cultists because everybody says so and anyone would be totally condemned by absolutely everybody if they suggested it might be otherwise.


wow.  wise.


🫂 I'm sorry


Thanks for the tip. I've done plenty of thinking in that area and I'm comfortable with that aspect.

For one, I think my opinion means more given that it is not anonymous. Secondly, I have no family, so if something terrible happens to me, nobody else suffers. Third, I'm in a country that actually is pretty sympathetic to the Palestinians, and isn't at all a center of power, meaning power brokers trying to manipulate the situation don't bother with this place and simple people are pretty much left alone. And I'm currently working for bitcoin building nostr technologies.  If OpenSats doesn't like my opinion and wants to cancel the grant they are free to, I have plenty of other sources of income I can turn to in that case. My political opinions have nothing whatsoever to do with OpenSats and do not represent them in any way. Finally, I'm getting older and more aware of my limited time here on Earth, so I'm less careful so that I can have a greater effect during that limited remaining time period.


Things to ponder. Not things I've heard before.


Sounds good. I like whiskey and beer both.


What does Hamas really say?  Don't listen to what Israel says Hamas says.  Get your information first hand.  [you don't have to believe it]

I've heard many wild claims about what Hamas says.  This video is from Hamas themselves (don't worry, no gore, just a statement read at a podium).

https://twitter.com/Aldanmarki/status/1712738101108384185

If that gets censored let me know so I can update


Can we then pull up out of the weeds? Forget the details and the long screeds. I see two fundamentally different overarching narratives:

Story #1:
Primary effect:   Jews taking land from Arabs
Secondary effect: Arab violence in retaliation
Tertiary effect:  Jews controlling Arabs for their own safety

Story #2
Primary effect:   Arabs eternally hate Jews and will be violent when they can
Secondary effect: Jews controlling Arabs for their own safety
Tertiary effect:  Jews taking land from Arabs

The first story is more believable to me. Every part of it is emminantly believable. We know if you get your land stolen you will get very very angry and that can lead to violence.  We all agree (both stories) that violence of Arabs puts a security risk on the Jews.  Nothing is out of place in this story.

But the second story seems crafted in order to justify land stealing. In order to pull this off, they have to invoke this concept that the eternal hatred of Arabs towards Jews is primary.  The reason that is less believable is because (1) Arabs and Jews got along together before WWI, and (2) Palestinians live in peace with Jews inside of Israel right now.

Anyhow I really want to shut up now, I'm tired of this topic, but I wanted to share my high-level comparison before I quit.


I love you man. 🫂

I think the discussion becoming somewhat adversarial helps ensure we don't miss anything. I hope I didn't anger you.


> You are uncertain whether the attack last week was barbaric?

Let's forget about arguing whether it was barbaric, because definitions can vary wildly. I'm going to be very specific.

First, I no longer believe things because the news or officials say so. I've become very skeptical, far more than I used to be, based on repeated abuse of my mind. And as a result I have to discount all of my own memory, everything I think I used to believe from the past about Hamas, because I wasn't critical of any of that information at the time.

Second, I don't have a dog in this race, but I don't like being lied to. "Truth" is my only dog in this race.

When I started to notice the claims and the video evidence being out of alignment, I made a point to gather lots of video evidence and determine what the patterns actually were.  The claims were that women and children were being routinely killed, raped, tortured, heads cut off, burned alive in their homes or in their cars.  What I found was that Hamas doesn't seem to kill women or children, and only kills adult men.  That was the pattern. There are two videos that could lead you to think otherwise, but they are not conclusive. But there are a huge number of videos of large numbers of dead adult men.  The balance in proportionality of who they are killing is immense.

I am not defending Hamas, nor am I saying it is okay to kill adult men. That would be ridiculous. I think Hamas' attack was disproportionate to what happened in East Jerusalem and to the Jewish settlements. I think judging all adult men as guilty just because they were forced by their nation to serve in the IDF is wrong. And war is horrible, I'm against all violence on both sides.

All I'm saying here is that they have been mischaracterized. They carry some sort of very non-Western ethic. They are not just randomly slaying (which is what I consider barbarism to mean).

> The Zionists set up one settlement after another. Some failed, some flourished. The more that flourished the more attractive the land became to other Jews and Arabs.

There is a whiff of a supremacist attitude in the way you said that, implying that improvements made by Jews made the area attractive, with no reference to improvements made by Arabs.

Nothing about being Arab makes people less capable of improving the land and infrastructure. The height of human civilization from the 8th to the 13th centuries were in Islamic nations. Al-gebra, Al-gorithm, the scietntific method, emission theory of optics, astronomy, chemistry, and a hell of a lot more, all came out of the Islamic world.

Since we are on that topic, the reason those in Gaza live with such shit infrastructure is that if they try to improve it, they will be shot at by IDF (injured usually not killed). The IDF disallows any infrastucture improvement for "security reasons."

And the reason Israel flourished while the Arabs in the region never did is because Britain screwed the Arabs over originally (which turned them hostile to the Jewish people) and then once Israel got large and strong enough, they continually subjugated and pounded down the Arabs.

In WWI, McMahon promised the Arabs that Britian would recognize them as a state if they helped the Brits fight off the Ottoman Empire. The Arabs took the deal, fought fiercely, lost a lot of people.  But there was a secret Sykes-Picot agreement, and the Brits never recognized the state of Palestine, and instead made the Balfour declaration recognizing a homeland for the Jewish people.  That was the flash-point of hostility between the Arabs in the region and the Jewish immigrants. That is the modern start of enmity between the two groups,

After that, Jewish immigration was no longer welcomed by the Arabs. It just angered the Arabs. Because they knew the Jews were coming in to take over and take control over them.

I find it strange that pro-Israel accounts of history never even mention that. Gloss right past it. Gloss right past the point where enmity began.

You are right that for a time, to keep the peace, Britian put a cap on how many Jews could migrate to the region.

> If the Arabs laid down their weapons there would be peace.

If the Arabs laid down their weapons, the Jews would remove them stealing all of their land. The only reason the steal it slowly is to try not to provoke a response, to try to make it like boiling a frog.

Rudyard Kipling has the right of it:

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."


In the short term, velocity of money matters too.  Even awash in money, if nobody borrows it, or nobody spends it, there is no pressure on prices.

In the long term, you are correct I think.


I deserved it


shipyard.pub is not a URL
Neither is x.com nor google.com


I just think the 5% rule should be dropped.  If we had 3 people from 3 small parties, then Winston wouldn't always be the kingmaker.


No, I made it up. I issue a retraction here:

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I have to correct myself here. Nobody made the argument I made here. I put the two together, because I had heard within an hour that Hamas digs up plumbing and then uses it as missile launchers, and also then the president's comments about missiles in kitchens (you should search for it and listen to it, it is fascinating how little control he has of his anger).  Apparently I'm the jew that made that argument.


Also, I feel like I'm watching a genocide here. I'm more than a bit angry. So cut me some slack.


Sorry if I'm loose with language.

Jewish people are famous for making good lawyers and being crafty with language and argumentation. I don't consider that a slight against them, even if it is a stereotype.


The president of Israel (Isasc Herzog) is claiming every Palestinian has a missile in their kitchen pointed at them, so they are all legitimate targets.

The logic?  Hamas makes missile launchers out of plumbing.  Therefore, therefore plumbing in everybody's kitchen is a military installation and therefore a legitimate target.

Only the jews could make that argument.


You are then entitled to think that based on what you saw. I haven't seen it yet.  I will indeed believe it when I see it, I don't take a side, I just need to hold stories to account to be sure we are getting at the truth.


I will join in with you to get MMP replaced with something that doesn't do that. Need me to sign a petition, just let me know.


I JUST REREAD THAT and I missed the first sentence.  OK.  CNN claims to have verified women, children, and elderly were killed during the suprise attack.  That's the strongest evidence I've seen so far, albeit far short of video evidence.


From same article:

"Al-Risheq’s claim that Hamas did not attack women is demonstrably false. Women, children and the elderly at kibbutzim like Kfar Aza and Be’eri and were killed during the surprise attack. Videos posted online verified by CNN show women who were attending the music festival targeted by the group’s gunmen being kidnapped."

This is a squabble over the definition of "attack."  Hamas took women under arrest and detained them (while they aparently killed the men). I don't see how this makes the claim that they did not attack women "demonstrably false" If it is demonstrably false, CNN doesn't say how so.  Western military detains innocent people in war zones too.  "Kidnapped" is a weasel word.


https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/12/middleeast/israel-hamas-beheading-claims-intl/index.html

"CNN has pored through hundreds of hours of media posted online attempting to corroborate accounts of atrocities committed by Hamas. In one video, which CNN determined to be authentic but has not been able to geolocate, an assailant attacks an injured man with a garden tool in an attempt to behead him. But CNN has not seen anything that would appear to confirm the claims of decapitated children.

CNN also visited the ransacked ruins of Kfar Aza on Tuesday and saw no evidence of beheaded youths. Israeli officials have not released any photographs of the incident either."


I gave money to a charity once. Now I can't get rid of them!

Never give money to a charity unless you want a harasser that never quits.


Apparently the adult men in civilian clothes that I thought might have been civilians are claimed by Hamas sources to have been soldiers raided in their sleeping quarters:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-deployed-specialised-units-attack-israel-says-source-2023-10-09/

"The commandoes attacked the first Israeli defence lines, raided sleeping quarters of soldiers and seized bases and the headquarters of Israel's military operation for southern Gaza, the source said."


You're probably right. I stand corrected. There is indeed fake-evidence propaganda. Ben Shapiro was just caught passing off an AI generated image as a burnt Israeli baby.


Until 3 days ago I was pretty settled in my view that Hamas is a terrorist organisation using barbaric tactics. Only in the last 3 days has that view changed based on lack of evidence (among much evidence). I am now uncertain, and seeking more evidence.

Fatah was the party that championed a diplomatic solution. They rule the West Bank, which Israel cuts into smaller and smaller pieces (diplomacy didn't work).

Hamas was the party that championed violent resistance.  They rule Gaza and promise to get revenge on Israel.  They have super-majority support in Gaza.  You might think that is stupid, since any attack of Hamas will cause a much worse retaliation by Israel, but this is what the people of Gaza want.  Perhaps more than their own lives, they seem to want revenge.

People were on the land before the people of Israel conquered it (they were not "given" the land, they killed people to get it, Caananites and many others as I recall, with some Ark of the Covenant supernatural device, right? ;-). And many people were on it since.

The levant wasn't "pretty deserted". People had been inhabiting it for thousands of years, as you mentioned earlier in your post. From 1881-1903, about 25000 jews immigrated there. From 1904-1914 another 35000 arrived. By 1922, the population was up to 11% Jews and 89% Arabs. That means there were still far more Arabs there even after those waves of immigration.  Data from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine

I could try to explain their rationale for wanting revenge on Israel, but I couldn't do it justice not being one of them. And it's so cultural that I doubt many of them remember all the stories and reasons themselves, at this point they just do.


Yeah but if I have already read it 3 times, seeing it in my feed fourth time starts to get bothersome; it becomes spam.

Here on nostr, we can deal with it client-side better than what x.com does.


yeah, gossip needs better reactions.
thanks.


I'm not saying it's not plausable. Totally plausable. Just that no evidence has been presented. Is it conspiratorial? Yes. Actors for nations conspire to do that nation's bidding. No suprises there.


On x.com (formerly known as twitter), whenver someone reposts their own tweet, I've been calling that a twat.  Past tense of tweet.

It is not wrong to call them twats, is it?


In the last week there has been a lot of drumming up of support for Israel in the West. Gruesome scenes intended to enrage people so that people in the West emotionally want revenge and get behind Israel.

I guess that propaganda isn't playing in Russia?


Every end is a new beginning


If Israel wanted to lie about the situation, they could easily have staged things, made fake evidence. But we don't see it.

So I think this isn't so much propaganda as it is people getting carried away, being racist, jumping to conclusions, and not verifying things.


It was hard to do. I've lost sleep over it. Even if there are some sort of rules to it, war is a horrible thing, and I'm emotionally and physically drained. I don't think I'll be paying any more attention to it for a while.


me


I noticed something yesterday. I noticed that in several pictures of dead bodies that were killed by Hamas, the bodies were all men. And I noticed videos of women being held alive.  And I wondered "are Hamas really indiscriminately killing women and children and beheading children?"  So I started searching for all the video and photo evidence.  Someone pointed me to Ben Shapiro's podcasts which have been showing lots of these as a way to prove who Hamas is, so I looked through all of that.  Far too much time, and really hard to watch all that. But I felt it was important (I kept the sound off - I didn't want to be influenced by his claims).

What I discovered is that there isn't any hard video evidence of women or children being killed by Hamas.  There are two pieces of evidence that maybe they were, but not conclusive, and I'll describe those below.

I not defending the killing of civilians. But in truth, I cannot know if the plain clothed men who were killed were civilians or not, all I can tell is that they were in plain clothes. So it is possible Hamas are engaging in war according to the rules of war.  I doubt it's quite that clean, I think maybe they are killing civilian men, but I won't pass judgement without solid evidence.

The statement "when people tell you who they are, believe them" is not evidence. People say all kinds of dumb shit that they don't back up.

We never saw evidence of the beheaded babies.

We never saw bodies of the rave dancers. I saw a picture that claimed to be, that looked like clothing layed out, not even bodies just clothing, and another of busted up cars, and a video of someone paragliding in. But not killing, no bodies, not even a report of which sex was killed.

Lots of people saying things, making claims, is not evidence. I have to ignore all the stories.

The woman in the truck with a fair amount of skin showing and blood, and a leg bent at an odd angle:  she does not seem like she was killed by being shot, because to bend the leg like that takes a lot of mechanical force. The most likely thing to cause such force is a vehicle.  So she was involved in some automobile accident. And why would they take her somewhere in a truck? Why not just leave her dead body on the ground?  Maybe they were taking her to a hospital/morgue. Inconclusive that they killed her, because normally they would have just shot her.

Why do we have no videos of dead women or children who were clearly shot? There are plenty of men who were clearly shot.

Beheading a dead man ... I'm not bothered by that. Once someone is dead, they're just meat. I'm all too familiar with that as I slaughter sheep on my farm. It's the killing that I'm bothered by, not what people do with the dead meat.

The other evidence was 4 women being escorted somewhere. Then a second video of the four women laying down near a path by a beach or other sandy area. They demonstrated by clothing colors that they were the same four women. There was no video connecting these two, where the women were allegedly killed.  The second video does not show any blood or bullet wounds, and the women appear to be lying in normal poses.  It is possible that they were "released" and the soldiers had them lie face down and count to one-thousand, to make sure the soldiers weren't followed by these women.

I don't know the truth of any of this, but I thought it was interesting that I can't find clear hard evidence of the claims.

On the other side, there is lots of videos of burnt live babies, burnt dead babies, etc, and carpet bombing that clearly is killing civilians.

possibly offensive semi-defense of Hamas


Don't condemn people (or groups of people). Condemn actions. Actions are frozen in time and don't change. People can change and there should be a path to redemption.  The slippery slope goes from condemning attacks on civilians (in a time of war) to condeming the group of people that planned the attack on cilvilians, to condemning a much larger group of people they are nestled within, half of which are children.... and then carpet bombing that much larger group. Which is seriously sick. And it all happened because people so easily slipped down that slippery slope. So I'm erecting these guard rails on that muddy slope: never condemn people or groups of people.    ... or listen to stacklsatsio who doesn't condemn at all because it is just virtue signalling.

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And for some light entertainment:  https://twitter.com/MacGraeme42/status/1712286657917923704


You found the source: Steven Weinberg


For good people to do evil, that takes religion


I stand with Israel about as much as I stand with apple cider vinegar.  Not at all.  Not that I'm anti-semitic.  I'm neutral-semetic. I don't stand with baking soda either. But it can be entertaining to watch what happens when you mix the two.


I agree with yoru statement on Lincoln, except for the word "except" because it is not at all in contradiction to what I wrote.  The North had slaves throughout the war. The North did not fight to free the slaves. Read my statement again. Slavery was not an issue for the North.

As it always is in war, the two sides were not on the same page. The South feared slavery was coming. Read the statements they made when they seceded.


Read the statements the states made who seceded. The south seceded because they feared slavery was going to be outlawed. Sure there were other issues, but that issue came up over and over in their statements.

The North didn't fight to free the slaves. Lincoln didn't use it as a means to an end. The North had slaves during the war. It wasn't even the North's concern at all. But it was the South's fear.

You are wrong about a 4th grade view.  The 4th grade view is that the North fought to free the slaves.


I just noticed all my theories align with the reimagined Battlestar Galactica opening movie

The computer hack theory:
   "I will not allow a networked computer system on my battlestar" - Admiral Adama
  Number 6 hacking the defense force.

The AI takeover theory:
   The cylons were AI.

The person letting it happen for some advantage theory:
  Gaius Baltar


I haven't even said what I consider the most likely theory.  So I suppose I should.

I think someone high up in the IDF/government of Israel knew this was going to happen and let it happen because he thought a security incident would shift the politics in his favor. But he thought it would be a small attack put down easily and didn't anticipate how effective the attack would be.


If you watch the speculations that Israel tries to get censored, those are probably over target.


There is zero evidence Iran is involved afaik


Another wild speculation is that A.I. has gotten loose and gone rogue, and it is testing out whether or not it can kill us by getting us to kill each other more effectively, by disabling various things.


This is speculative. But people have been wondering how Hamas could have breached the border in 15 places with no response for hours, and we have no definite answers yet.

One of the theories is a widespread cyber attack by Iran took down the defenses and alerting systems.  Some people (e.g. Bret Weinstein) don't think that is plausable. I think it is highly plausable.

I worked in Computer Security from 1993 until 2003, and paid close attention afterwards.  I categorized vulnerabilities for the purpose of figuring out how we could fix code and prevent attacks, and for testing intrusion detection systems.  As the Internet exploded, the attack surfaces exploded.  Languages exploded.  People wrote shell script CGI scripts (super easy to attack those). The vulnerability density was just going up, and rapidly.  Every time I've looked back at the situation I've been agahst at how much worse it has become. Almost every single computer on the Internet is vulnerable to about two to three dozen zero-day attacks at any given time.

Technology moves quickly to deviver the "works if you use it properly" product (which everybody notices and cares about) but never devivers the "always fails safely when used improperly" property which is necessary for security, because nobody evaluates that or can see that.

So did Iran take down their intrustion detection systems, their reporting systems, alerting systems, defenses, etc, in a cyber attack?  I don't know.  But they have the capability to.  Every major nation has the capability do to this to any other nation.


How the US civil war started, in a nutshell:

North: "Slavery is immoral. We should plan to get rid of slaves."
South: "Are you fucking kidding me? Our whole economy is based on slavery! We'd better leave before that happens."
North: "What? No you can't leave! Because then we couldn't tax you anymore!"
So the North moved their military
And the South said "They are about to strike! Let's strike first!"

and that is how it started.


Yes I suspected, but I thought it was necessary to say what I said, just in case Hamas is reading this.


Nah, this is just satire. I didn't buy any of their shares.


Thank you, you have redeemed yourself. Sorry for my presumption.

Now to clarify what I said:

1) There are an infinite number of facts.
2) Human brains are finite in size
3) Therefore, they cannot contain all the facts. They only contain a subset of all the facts.
4) I am human, I have a human brain
5) All the facts I know are inside of that brain
6) Therefore they cannot be all of the facts, they must be a subset of the facts
7) Therefore I am ignorant of all of the other facts not in my brain

Ignorant is a technical word meaning "not aware of".

That was my first argument when I said "I only know a small finite set of facts, I'm ignorant on all the others."


You may have heard that corporations behave like psychopaths, even if none of the people in them are.

Well, so do nations.

Government bad.


wtf? Nothing about what I said is limiting me to "pre-esstablished" something (you didn't say what, you dropped a noun) in any way, or numbing logical reasoning.

You get an opportunity to explain the non-sequetor, but three strikes and you are out. Usually when I reply to nonsensical stuff it doesn't bode well. Your chances are low.


I'm fully aware that the weapon I mentioned is not available to those literal psychopaths.  I just felt like being glib.


I think the Israelis and the Palestinians should become frens

Unexpected and unexplainable kindness, a weapon that has no defense


I take pride in calling myself ignorant.  There are an infinite number of facts. I know a small finite set of them. I'm ignorant of all the others.
So long as everybody recognizes this about themselves, and continues to learn and update their worldview, it's fine to share your (partly wrong) world view and be corrected.

🫂


It has mute person. Not mute thread.  Some threads I don't want to mute the person elsewhere.


Maybe gossip needs a feature like x.com has where you can say "I'm not interested in this conversation anymore"

Usually they are conversations that I started.


I'm just going to drop this here without comment:

https://imemc.org/article/60238/


There are Palestinians living in Israel.  You think they hate Jews and yet choose to live amongst them peacefully?


That is the story that is passed around and reinforced among you and whoever you talk with. But it's not a story I believe. It is a racist simplification to say that someone just fundamentally hates you for no reason whatsoever and it cannot be otherwise.


"The raging hordes at the gates just want peace" is quite a twisting from what I said. Many of them want to kill all the Jews and will take every opportunity to do so.  I meant that their hatred is not fundamental, that it comes as a response to how they've been treated.  Now I hate absolutes, and that is not the end of it.  Some of their hatred is jealousy for wealth.  Some of it is simple "fear of the other" racism.  But a lot of it, especially over the last seven decades, comes from how they've been treated by the State of Israel (and it's agents) since the end of the British mandate in 1948.


Ok I'm changing my nip to "@@@"


I am going to make a video where I explain my view on this better. What I wrote in this note is very unsupported by the note, so I want to support it. And it's not very well contextualized. And I'm not making all the right consessions. So a video is in order.

Israel has tried for peace over and over in a fake couldn't-possibly-work kind of way. And I need to explain that better.


Because AFAICT by the example, what is desired to be expressed is Alex is associated with gleasonator.com and also associated with mostr.pub.  Which to me means that Alex could wish to have two different NIP-05 addresses. Which isn't currently a supported thing.


I think I muted at precisely the right point. I offered deeply thought responses to simple insults three or four times and got back insults and wildly uneducated information.  There is a point where it becomes a clear waste of my time.  He/she wasn't engaging, he/she was trolling.


I don't know what alex@gleasonator.com@mostr.pub means. Explain in English what that is supposed to signify.


I follow about 150 people. I cannot keep up with their posts. I certainly wouldn't be able to keep up with friends-of-friends. And global? forget about it!

I encounter strangers via replies in threads. Quite often. That seems sufficient to me.

That being said, I think it should be user choice. Define your own feed.


Who would have guessed that World War 3 might start from the events at the tail end of World War 1 (the Balfour declaration)?


Ok then, you have confirmed that you are not worth my time. Welcome to the mute list.


The history is much less relevant than the present.  In the present, Israel is subjugating the Palestinians, taking their lands by force, killing their children or at least shooting them in the ankles, restricting their water, not allowing them to do anything productive for "security reasons".  They are not free.

I believe in liberty. I also believe in equality.  If you believe in those things, you have to believe Palestinians are just as equal as you and I are, and thus you must wish for their freedom.  If you don't, then either you don't believe in equality, or you don't believe in freedom.  If I'm wrong, you are going to have to explain why clearly, not just spit out insults.

I am not a clown, and I think plenty of people on nostr can attest to that. We may disagree, and if so that is a good thing because we can learn from each other. That is why I am replying rather than just ignoring your short and mean comment.


And taxes of course. Had a brain fart there.


I think I may have never suffered from any political issue ever, other than self-inflicted mental anguish.

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Is that Putin?  A Russian president, with English words below, and Chinese people speaking. Strange nexus.


I condemn violence against innocent people. I try to understand what is really going on as best as I can.  If you want to understand what it is like for Palestinians in the West Bank, Kim Iversen's video from her trip is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/vDJPf_JY-AE

Hamas' actions were vile. I condemn them. But they were not unprovoked.


Be aware that defenders of Israel always make a clear distinction between the West Bank and the Gaza strip.  So the Gaza strip remains unoccupied since 2005 (until probably today), whereas this map is of the West Bank.  Hamas from Gaza attacked Israel, and they don't coorelate what is happening in the West Bank with Hamas' attack from Gaza... they keep them very separate and talk about them very separately, even though Hamas definitely coorelates them.

Let me say though that what Hamas has done to innocent civilians is horrific.  And what IDF has done in retaliation to apartment buildings filled with mostly innocent civilians is just as horrific (but there is much less footage of that horror covered in broken concrete). War is horrific. I just wish they would be fair to each other.


Yeah. Fuck war.


Written by an Israeli journalist in Tel Aviv as he tries to shelter his family. I am in awe of his ability to maintain perspective.

https://www.972mag.com/gaza-attack-context-israelis/


Maybe.

Israel never even tried for peace though.  It still hasn't tried it.  It demands peace under conditions where it continues to occupy, murder, barracade, bulldoze, and fill wells with concrete.  That's not peace.  Why doesn't Israel try for peace?  They don't actually want peace, they want to win. They want the entire territory, but they are afraid of international reprocussions if they just genocide the remaining Palestineans so they are letting it happen slowly.  But evil, flat out evil it is.  Palestineans have little choice here. They can't just live like that.

Also, Hezbollah, Iran, Russia even could come in and make a full scale war that forces Israel to honor the U.N. resolutions. But that is not likely to happen either.

Unfortunately the most likely outcome is the most unjust one... Israel will use this as an excuse to prune the Palestinean population further, 1000 for every 1.  Until they are eventually gone.


Belief is the enemy of all knowledge.


I put it there. Some people want to follow me because of the gossip client but could care less about (and want to avoid) political topics.


The only side of the conflict that can solve it is Israel.  Withdraw to the 1967 lines.  If they continue to attack Israel after that, I 100% support Israel defending itself.


You didn't even make your point. What is your point about these countries?  You made no point. You just went on and insulted me. If anyone here has trouble reasoning...


Which story seems more believable?  (1) Palestineans hate Jews and will always attack Jews even if Jews are nice to them, or (2) Jews were mean to Palestineans and they have built up a lot of hatred becase of it?

(2) is far more likely to be true.

That doesn't mean the ethnic hatred built up will settle down all at once. It will take a generation or two.


Hot take.  Many here will disagree with me on this, but this is nostr and damn it, I get to say whatever I want to say.

My sympathies have always been with Palestine over Israel, not because they are the underdog, but because they are the aggrieved party.  The United Nations agreed as to how to settle this long ago and Israel is the one violating that agreement.  Israel inflicts huge amounts of suffering on them, and suffers tiny amounts in comparison.  They "settle" (flat out steal) their land, cut their land into pieces so that they cannot travel, bulldoze their houses, and block them from International trade. It is illegal for Israelis to travel to Palestine, lest they see the horror and develop sympathies for them.

Israel must withdraw from all of Palestine to the 1967 lines, and then there will be peace. That is already a huge compromise from the 1947 lines, which was itself a huge compromise from Palestine originally being 100% of the region. There is no reason to expect them to continue to give more to Israel over and over and over again. It has to stop, and 1967 is where it stops according to the UN, the PLO, and other international bodies.

Bad arguments for the ethnic cleansing and land stealing from Palestineans:

* We used to live here four thousand years ago
* God gave us this land
* We have a bigger economy
* Hitler killed a bunch of us in Germany
* They teach their kids to hate Jews (I believe in freedom of thought, freedom to hate, freedom to love)
* They present a security risk, so we have to kill them first
* Palestine started the violence again this time, not Israel (to think they shouldn't fight to reclaim their land from Israel because there have been ceasefires is status quo bias)

Those are all morally vacant arguments, and give zero consideration to what is just and right.

I never understood why people in the American right-wing are on Israel's side. They make the above arguments and I just cringe.

Taking sides in Israel/Palestine. This post might enrage you.


effluent


I am suddenly fluent


I see.  I would laugh if that wasn't so sad.  I was reading in DW about Russians who fled to Israel and Armenia and thought about that.


Did you leave because you would be conscripted, because the war might enter Russian soil, for ethical reasons, or other reasons? And what made you choose Israel, being an orthodox Christian I wouldn't have expected that.

My grandfather left Odessa in 1909, after his parents were killed by the state for protesting taxes levied against Germans in Ukraine who were promised independence by Katherine.


I use ProtonMail.

If they are compelled by Swiss law, they have to share information. But ProtonMail doesn't require KYC so it can be the case that all they have to share with the authorities is your IP address.


Today I put my finger on the giant waka called Aotearoa and gave it a little push. Along with 5 million other fingers that will be pushing it over last and this next week, we will see which direciton New Zealand heads in next.


Certainly not JFK's head.

Maybe BTC/USD future trajectory?


Beware of this Russian Disinformation!  a.k.a. the strangest video I've ever seen come out of a news organisation.

https://rumble.com/v3ncvyg-nuclear-war-wont-happen-top-russian-shaman.html


The last 43 seconds of this video are the most important.  This is in regards to the UK government pressuring social media platforms to cancel Russell Brand, a man who hasn't even been charged, and an action that violates a basic principle of law as old as the Magna Carta.

And BTW, nostr fixes this.

https://rumble.com/v3n0t0y-carl-benjamin-pt-3.html?start=607


Dear Hillary Clinton,

You don't seem to understand what is going on in America.

You claim that there is a little tail of extremism wagging to dog of the Republican party, and that many of those MAGA extremists take marching orders from Donald Trump, who has no credibility left by any measure. And you believe they need to break with him.

But you misunderstand (or pretend to misunderstand?) some important things.

First, these people you call MAGA extremists are not extreme. They may be poor judges of things, caring more about loyalty than truth or something like that, but they are not extreme. They are painted as extreme by the left, by you and your ilk, as a political ploy, and a dirty underhanded one at that. If you want any credibility for yourself, you need to stop being discreditable in your rhetoric.

Second, those MAGA die-hard Trump supporters are not wagging the Republican party. There is a much larger group of right-leaning people who are not die-hard Trump supporters who you are confusing for MAGA republicans. Let me describe them.

First, they support Trump because he is the front runner, or because of his policies and his prior record of success, and strategically that makes the most sense.

Second, they have lost faith in the institutions because those institutions lied to us over and over again, many of those lies drummed up by people you paid to drum up lies, Hillary. Your lies. Lies that were devastatingly consequential to America. Lies about Donald Trump that have torn this country apart. And so all those lawsuits and accusations don't matter to them. The institutions are not credible. The accusations are not credible.

If we still had equal justice under the law, we wouldn't have politicians running on campaign promises that they would "get Trump". You cannot first identify a person you don't like and then seek out the crimes they may have done. Or if you do, that is most certainly not equal justice. Justice starts at a crime and then finds the person. It was the Soviets who said "Give me the man and I will give you the case against him". For someone who dislikes Russians so much, you sure know how to copy them.

I consider your remark that these MAGA people should have a formal deprogramming as "off the cuff" and you probably immediately regretted saying such a stupid thing so I won't even comment on that really really dumb idea, except to say that it is a really really dumb idea.

Trump is still popular, even with all the lawsuits, even with his questionable behavior, because we see those lawsuits are mostly sham lawsuits, and wherever there is a real case to be made, it should be thrown out because it was arrived at via a distinctly unequal application of justice. Trump promises to fix this problem or to dissolve these institutions. We, the much larger group of right-leaning non-MAGA people, do indeed want to see these broken institutions either fixed or dissolved. Many liberals want that same thing, and look to RFK Jr or Tulsi Gabbard or other people who also recognize the problem. Do you think they are MAGA extremists too?

It's not the deplorables or the MAGA die-hards that are a problem in America. They are a predictable response to the problem. The root of the problem is the bad actions of people in power, your people, who have corrupted the very important and used-to-be-sacred principles of law and order, of equal justice, of color-blindness of the government, of playing fair, of being reasonable, and of telling the truth.

You are the extremist, Hillary, and your extremism has done more to hurt America than all the actions of all of our foreign adversaries combined.

About what you say about MAGA Republicans...


Ok I'll do that.


Damn I should have done that as a long-form note so I could correct it.


That isn't necessarily an indication of corrupt data. It could be a bug. That comes up, for example, if you delete records from a cursor you are iterating over (which should work but doesn't and IMHO is a deep LMDB bug never corrected because it requires a specific data state that you, congratulations, stumbled upon!).  But if you hard booted your machine, it might also be corrupted.  I'm not keen to try to restore it to find a bug that might not be there.


He shouldn't wait too long. Gotta take advantage of that early period when she's being extra agreeable.


If you were getting MdbErrors then probably the database was corrupted.

I take backups of my database because I often break it as I write new code that doesn't work quite right yet:

tar cvf - lmdb | zstd -c > lmdb.$(date +%Y%m%d).zst