It’s private AI chat, maybe read more than just the title: https://blog.opensecret.cloud/maple-ai-private-encrypted-chat/


Also it’s built on OpenSecrets so it’s not one or the other, they are probably working on both at the same time. Showing OpenSecrets to the world without Maple AI would be like showing bitcoin to the world without wallets.


Maple AI is not a messenger


Maybe a good proxy metric for adoption is how dumb your interaction with bitcoiners is on average


Thank you 🙏


> Hello
>
> We do plan to add support for it but I don't have any ETA for this.
>
> Best regards

-_-


to be fair, I think I should blame the client I used not the protocol if that's indeed what happened


Weird, I also wasn't following you. I thought I already was. Maybe nostr did its thing.


fyi, I am not a fan of getting tagged just because you mentioned Stacker News even though I appreciate that you mention it


Oh, there has been an update: they changed their mail address. Use support@mullvadvpn.net now.

> Thanks for contacting Mullvad VPN support.
>
> Please be aware that since February 2024 we host our own secure email server with a new address.
https://mullvad.net/en/blog/we-now-self-host-our-support-email
>
> support@mullvadvpn.net
>
> Please re-send your request to this email (using English or Swedish) and we'll be happy to assist you there.


I just asked them again for an update on the status after 1.5 years


I wrote support@mullvad.net twice to ask for native LN support and mentioned the reseller but they only said they will forward the feedback. Maybe more people need to write them.


How some people seem to see the election results:

https://youtu.be/M_XwzBMTJaM


Here’s a good blog post about audience capture: https://www.gurwinder.blog/p/the-perils-of-audience-capture

Some discussion about it can be found here: https://stacker.news/items/278856


For any of you newbies holding bitcoin on Coinbase, don't get too anxious when you can't access  your account during periods of high volume trading. It's sort of a tradition.

NYKNYC


It’s like foreshadowing


Oh, just watched your other vlog, there was a hotel in the airport


You woke up in the airport? Layover?


I read Department of Theft first


Imagine a world where you actually get zapped when someone zaps you. So the more they zap you, the harder you get zapped.

https://m.stacker.news/54226.png


I have only found the option in the app


Congratulations for getting this out there! Love the shit talking, keep it up.

https://fountain.fm/episode/yUcHYrQqR5ovs66xIrsM

nostr:nevent1qvzqqqpxquqzp3aqe49q76xf6kpggaud6gndhujx2dl6zle0cel3jlvnuu4fu60zhfrrel


audit channel to who?


please explain how the allies were much worse than concentration camps for anyone the Nazi party didn't like


I wonder if you could run a lightning channel on top of nostr ... 👀


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYBR2HQ7cc

Testing sharing music on nostr: any Pendulum fans on here? This song just kills!


You can run Alby Hub with a Cashu mint as the backend.


Test to see if Damus displays image inline if markdown syntax is removed:

https://m.stacker.news/45003


You're right. Fixed it in this PR: https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/pull/1251


Oh right, we don't include a link back to SN in our nostr crossposting. Will add that!


Oh I never saw this note for some reason or haven’t been on nostr for so long

Sorry for my bad golang code, just wanted to contribute to nip44. It passed all the tests before it was audited. After the security audit, more test vectors were added and I updated the code to fix the missing boundary checks and pass all new test vectors.

If all implementations pass the same test vectors, they should all be compatible, no?


Yes, what's wrong with SN? 👀


Learned from a wild cat today:

You don't need FU money when you have FU energy 👀⚡


Fiat lives rent-free in the head of a lot of bitcoiners.


What messenger do you recommend? I mainly use SimpleX, Signal and TG but I think TG might even be worse than WA because it's not even using E2EE. But so many (bitcoin) groups are on TG.


I'm starting to see this, too


I don't think so, it was uploaded to YT last summer


It feels like not being on WhatsApp though


Currently half-way through my first podcast episode with nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx in it and now I can look past his notes in all caps. I guess nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx wouldn't be nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx without ALL CAPS.

Great episode, fwiw, you might be the person with the best balance between being authentic, serious, funny, confrontational and relaxed I've ever heard speaking.

Btw, do you have something to say about the people that never signed up to twitter? Do they get something? I'd settle for a reply on nostr so I can feel special for a day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ms-dE6aasA


this was an accident

This is a long form article, you can read it in https://habla.news/a/naddr1qqrrxv3cxqunyq3q6x07c4qz05yhqe2gy2q2u9ax359d2lc0tsh6wn3y70dmk8nv2j2sxpqqqp65wmk3xed


test


Does this include channels to centralized services like SN? When we support self-custodial wallets, a channel to SN should make a lot of sense for zero fees.


Nothing


That moment when you check your bank transactions and you received money from a store instead of them withdrawing money from your account.


That moment when you mute someone on nostr and you wonder if that's public information or not.


That moment when you make an appointment in a store and you're wondering which time zone they are talking about.


When did you leave?

Asking because we do have filtering mechanisms; it's just not enough for some stackers but we will continue to work on it.

For example, we released "greeter mode" in Sep 2022 [0] which is off by default. This means you won't see any free items by (new) users unless you enable greeter mode.

And a week before that, we released "wild west mode" [1]. This works similar to greeter mode but acts on items that other stackers downzapped. This is also off by default. So if you want to make up your mind about stuff yourself, you can enable it and downzaps of other stackers will not have an effect on your feed.

And just a few days ago, we released muting territories [2] which works similar to muting users [3]. This means you can now filter your feed not only by muting users but by muting whole territories, too.

So maybe you didn't know all of that and you might want to give SN a try again?

Feedback is also always welcome!

[0] https://stacker.news/items/74511
[1] https://stacker.news/items/72602
[2] https://stacker.news/items/372672
[3] https://stacker.news/items/269467


Okay, I think you're referring to the "Notable Uses" section. Fair point then.

But I still don't think that this is what most DDoS attacks use. Most DDoS attacks use botnets, as mentioned by Cloudflare.

The "Countermeasures" section also mentions that LOIC isn't really effective if the company you're attacking knows that they are doing.


From your link:

"LOIC attacks are easily identified in system logs, and the attack can be tracked down to the IP addresses used."

So I don't consider this to be effective DDoS. I consider Cloudflare to be a more authoritative source on this matter.

Also, where is the source that activists used this? Were they successful using LOIC?


Because effective DDoS uses massive bandwidth that you don't just have access to as an individual or company or whatever. No one needs so much bandwidth so no one would get so much bandwidth is my educated guess.

"A distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack is a malicious attempt to disrupt the normal traffic of a targeted server, service or network by overwhelming the target or its surrounding infrastructure with a flood of Internet traffic.

DDoS attacks achieve effectiveness by utilizing multiple compromised computer systems as sources of attack traffic. Exploited machines can include computers and other networked resources such as IoT devices."

-- https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/ddos/what-is-a-ddos-attack/

So I would say citation required to "I am pretty sure activists have done it before without bot networks". I tried searching for "DDoS without botnet", but all I find is search hits about how to do DDoS with botnets. And I am talking about effective DDoS. Not DoS.


Ignore the "O" at the end. No idea how that ended up in there.


Mhh, interesting take. But you could still say that these people voluntarily participate in this. And they also voluntarily pay the fees. At least that's how I see it.

O


Content determines the base value and relationships are multipliers.


> This will likely be the last year of damus. Will try my best to make this thing sustainable, but nostr clients don’t make money and I once funding runs dry its over as I can only burn saving for so long. Glad I was able to help play a small part in this regardless of what happens. Going to give it my all next year to try to keep the dream alive. Thanks for coming along for the ride ✌

Is there no way for nostr clients to make money?

jb55: "This will likely be the last year of damus"


Okay, I see, I can indeed configure this in the settings. But I would have expected an input. What if I want to be very specific with my zaps? Am I expected to configure my settings in that case?

https://m.primal.net/HVfh.png


Another nostr mind fuck: Why can't I say myself how much I want to zap on primal? I just had to zap 2x42 + 1x21 to get something close to 100 sats.

Am I missing a setting or something?

https://m.primal.net/HVfe.png


Btw, I liked your idea so much, I reposted it on SN and linked to your note.

https://stacker.news/items/368898


I like this idea, it sounds similar to how zapping on Stacker News works. We also take a fee but mainly for sybil resistance to protect our ranking algorithm. We give these fees back to the best users at the end of the day.


I don't usually post on nostr since I still feel like a n00b in this space and I am not comfortable with attention from strangers yet.

However, I want to get comfortable and I am interested in other opinions on my opinion. So I'll also share on nostr what I posted on SN regarding the Ordinals DDoS and nostr:npub1lh273a4wpkup00stw8dzqjvvrqrfdrv2v3v4t8pynuezlfe5vjnsnaa9nk response:

>> “How dare you call it a DDoS. Pretty sure everyone involved is paying their internet bills.”
>
> Uhm, usually DDoS is done via botnets so it's not the attackers that pay the internet bill but innocent people with malware on their machines. This means the attackers definitely do not pay for the full bandwidth that reaches the target.
So I don't think this analogy holds tbh.

-- https://stacker.news/items/368777

What do you think? Was nostr:npub1lh273a4wpkup00stw8dzqjvvrqrfdrv2v3v4t8pynuezlfe5vjnsnaa9nk analogy still reasonable?


Some might have already guessed what this post will be about just by reading the title...

But many more might not, especially if they weren't there when _it_ happened.

What am I talking about? About the legendary snail @orthwyrm that one day just showed up and said:

> Day 1 of snailposting till BTC is $100k.
> __@_'-'

[No one seemed to care](https://stacker.news/items/165652) [0] but no one did know that this was just the beginning ... a legend was born that day.

I want to think that @orthwyrm was thinking the following that day:

_They don't know that it's not going to take much time that_

- _[they are going to abuse me for their own personal reasons (next day already actually)](https://stacker.news/items/165862)_
- _[they'll want to be faster than me](https://stacker.news/items/227932)_
- _[they'll think I am a bot](https://stacker.news/items/228717)_
- _[I'll receive 8k+ sats just for showing up](https://stacker.news/items/257284)_
- _[I'll make people race to be the first in the daily discussion only for 1k sats, an amount that I receive almost every day](https://stacker.news/items/244707)_
- _[they'll hate me for reaching top comment every day](https://stacker.news/items/246051)_
- _[they'll blow up the daily discussion while waiting for me](https://stacker.news/items/245844)_
- _[they'll get worried when I don't show up immediately](https://stacker.news/items/261661)_
- _[and probably much more](https://stacker.news/items/400181) ..._

[It's day 236 now.](https://stacker.news/items/342111)

However, [on day 8](https://stacker.news/items/168449), the following happened:

> should we make bets on the number? I say you make it on day 411.

From the seven people that replied, only @orthwyrm, @grayruby and myself still seem to be around.

@orthwyrm said in 260 days (EOY)

@grayruby said in 655 days.

And I said 420 days. I even [doubled down on my 420 bet](https://stacker.news/items/265803):

> Day 420 100k ez
That will be June 8, 2024
Remember my words xD

@grayruby mentioned this bet [some time later again](https://stacker.news/items/212911):

> I know awhile ago a bunch of us made predictions as to what day the snail goes away but why don't we do something more formal. A futures bet. Take a week to cultivate participants who want to put 1k sats into the prize pool and closest without going over wins the sats.
Thoughts?

**The day where we do something more formal has finally arrived.**

## This post is going to be the formal way to participate in the bitcoin $100k bet.

**Anyone except the ones who already mentioned a number can still reply with a number. So this means that @orthwyrm, @grayruby, @SwearyDoctor, @ridsa, @LaserStack, @squatopia already locked in.**

**Anyone who deletes any comment of theirs in here is immediately out. No sat returns.**

---

I'll try to get something going where we can collect sats into a pool; similar to how @artistformerlyknownasNFLsurvivor worked, I guess. Hopefully before bitcoin reaches $100k, lol.

Any ideas on the bet size we should go for? @grayruby mentioned 1k sats but I think more sats would be cooler ... what about 5k? Or even 10k? Or even 25k? :) I think 25k would be the maximum I would be willing to bet.

**When bitcoin reaches $100k, Moscow time will be 1000. This means 25k sats will be worth $25 while currently, they are worth $10.**

---

[0] _except apparently me since I realized that 105 from the 106 sats are mine, lol. And @orthwyrm can confirm that I did **not** zap them today :) Not sure what I was thinking giving this weird snail ASCII art 105 sats of me at that day ... or did I sense a great disruption in the force that day? who knows, lol, i certainly don't anymore :)_

![2023-12-07-124629_1920x1080_scrot.png](https://m.stacker.news/7107)


I always liked to reinterpret lyrics to match different situations. Music is often very well (and intentionally) written such that it can be applied to very different situations!

So I am proposing this theme song for what's currently going on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j-iSoe6op0

Here is my interpretation:

> We're cutting it close

Will SN stop creating more territories while people are literally in the process of creating even more territories?

> Are we at the end of our rope?

Are we at the end of an era of SN?

> I don't wanna feed the flames

I don't want to create another territory to feed the flames

> I hate to say my patience is running on low

@DarthCoin

> And the end is looking nearer the further we go

Bull market is coming ...

> Then you mess with my emotions and talk to me sweet

So many territories created in such a short period of time makes me so excited, I can literally only sleep for 2 hours right now, lol

@k00b and me had a meeting a few hours ago and we were like: "You look tired" - "I think you're projecting, _you_ look tired!"

> Don't say it's all for nothing, no

It won't be all for nothing, right? [SN won't end up like Reddit 2.0, right?](https://stacker.news/items/341019) Right?

> Don't live and let die

Shitcoiners (as always), banks, countries will get rekt in next bull market and bitcoiners are soooo going to so say: <insert told you so meme from @DarthCoin> while still pretending we're all humble and only stack sats

> Got big enough problems of my own

Users asking for more and more features but SN is _already_ short on engineers and we need to prioritize or die

> I'm ripping up every stone

I'm literally ripping up stones? Idk, this is going to be hard haha

[...]

to be continued by someone else?

---

ok, taking a break from SN now for the next few minutes ... [need to fix more bugs](I'm ripping up every stone) ... hopefully, [it doesn't take me multiple hours again to change a few characters](https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/pull/666) (and then it's not even the proper fix, lol)


What do you think when the first sub will become profitable?

And what do you think how many subs will be left next month? lol

What's your prediction regarding territories?


![2023-12-06-060625_750x122_scrot.png](https://m.stacker.news/6906)

I just typed a title and it reached "0 characters remaining". This must be my destiny.

Ok, no, lol that wasn't the reason why I created this sub. There must have been a reason I even was thinking about a title, right?

The reason is ....

![2023-12-06-063004_767x423_scrot.png](https://m.stacker.news/6907)

I had to lol so hard at this guy since I think they figured out that I am going to match _any_ order just to provide liquidity. So they are actually _very_ sure that bitcoin is going to close above $40k this week so they decided to get maximum profits by actually pretending they are very unsure so they only have to pay 10 sats per share, lol

Smart if true ... but the week isn't over yet :)

The very deep reason that finally made me realize that I need to create this sub


Lightning Prediction Market MVP - delphi.market: https://stacker.news/items/337637


Oh, hey, haha, haven't seen this note. I am not very active on nostr.

I am currently working on a prediction market MVP on https://delphi.market. I've been mainly posting about it on SN. I mentioned I will get the MVP done by this month, and people are looking forward to it now since I mentioned I want to build this a long time ago, lol. See https://stacker.news/items/323369

Also created a ticket in SN and on nostr about prediction markets:

https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/issues/309
https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/517


_Wanted to post this originally in the [saloon](https://stacker.news/items/324922) but the logs are too long, I would have just taken up all the space, lol ([related ticket](https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/issues/549))_

---

@TonyGiorgio @benthecarman when I tried your config from [here](https://blog.mutinywallet.com/mutinynet/):

```
[signet]
signetchallenge=512102f7561d208dd9ae99bf497273e16f389bdbd6c4742ddb8e6b216e64fa2928ad8f51ae
addnode=45.79.52.207:38333
dnsseed=0
signetblocktime=30
```

and [this fork](https://github.com/benthecarman/bitcoin/releases/tag/custom-signet-blocktime), I think it still tries to connect to mainnet:

```
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Warning: Disk space for "/var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/blocks" may not accommodate the block files. Approximately 496 GB of data will be stored in this directory.
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z loadblk thread start
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z UpdateTip: new best=000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f height=0 version=0x00000001 log2_work=32.000022 tx=1 date='2009-01-03T18:15:05Z' progress=0.000000
```

_full startup log:_

```
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Bitcoin Core version v24.99.0-gd8434da3c14ed6723d86ef2cd266008d366e1413 (release build)
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Using the 'x86_shani(1way,2way)' SHA256 implementation
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Using RdSeed as an additional entropy source
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Using RdRand as an additional entropy source
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Default data directory /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Using data directory /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Config file: /var/lib/bitcoind/bitcoin-d8434da3c14e/bitcoin.conf
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Config file arg: [signet] addnode="45.79.52.207:38333"
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Config file arg: [signet] dnsseed="0"
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Config file arg: [signet] signetblocktime="30"
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Config file arg: [signet] signetchallenge="512102f7561d208dd9ae99bf497273e16f389bdbd6c4742ddb8e6b216e64fa2928ad8f51ae"
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Command-line arg: conf="/var/lib/bitcoind/bitcoin-d8434da3c14e/bitcoin.conf"
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Using at most 125 automatic connections (1024 file descriptors available)
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Using 16 MiB out of 16 MiB requested for signature cache, able to store 524288 elements
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Using 16 MiB out of 16 MiB requested for script execution cache, able to store 524288 elements
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Script verification uses 0 additional threads
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z scheduler thread start
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Binding RPC on address ::1 port 8332
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Binding RPC on address 127.0.0.1 port 8332
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z [http] creating work queue of depth 16
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Using random cookie authentication.
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Generated RPC authentication cookie /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/.cookie
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z [http] starting 4 worker threads
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Using wallet directory /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/wallets
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z init message: Verifying wallet(s)…
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Using /16 prefix for IP bucketing
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z init message: Loading P2P addresses…
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Creating peers.dat because the file was not found ("/var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/peers.dat")
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z init message: Loading banlist…
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Recreating the banlist database
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z SetNetworkActive: true
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Failed to read fee estimates from /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/fee_estimates.dat. Continue anyway.
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Cache configuration:
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z * Using 2.0 MiB for block index database
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z * Using 8.0 MiB for chain state database
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z * Using 440.0 MiB for in-memory UTXO set (plus up to 286.1 MiB of unused mempool space)
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z init message: Loading block index…
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Assuming ancestors of block 00000000000000000009c97098b5295f7e5f183ac811fb5d1534040adb93cabd have valid signatures.
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Setting nMinimumChainWork=00000000000000000000000000000000000000003404ba0801921119f903495e
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Opening LevelDB in /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/blocks/index
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Opened LevelDB successfully
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Using obfuscation key for /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/blocks/index: 0000000000000000
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z LoadBlockIndexDB: last block file = 0
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z LoadBlockIndexDB: last block file info: CBlockFileInfo(blocks=0, size=0, heights=0...0, time=1970-01-01...1970-01-01)
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Checking all blk files are present...
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Initializing databases...
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Initializing chainstate Chainstate [ibd] @ height -1 (null)
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Opening LevelDB in /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/chainstate
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Opened LevelDB successfully
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Wrote new obfuscate key for /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/chainstate: 6063313b8a0911ee
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Using obfuscation key for /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/chainstate: 6063313b8a0911ee
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z [snapshot] allocating all cache to the IBD chainstate
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Opening LevelDB in /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/chainstate
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Opened LevelDB successfully
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Using obfuscation key for /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/chainstate: 6063313b8a0911ee
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z [Chainstate [ibd] @ height -1 (null)] resized coinsdb cache to 8.0 MiB
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z [Chainstate [ibd] @ height -1 (null)] resized coinstip cache to 440.0 MiB
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z init message: Verifying blocks…
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z  block index               6ms
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Setting NODE_NETWORK on non-prune mode
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Warning: Disk space for "/var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/blocks" may not accommodate the block files. Approximately 496 GB of data will be stored in this directory.
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z loadblk thread start
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z UpdateTip: new best=000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f height=0 version=0x00000001 log2_work=32.000022 tx=1 date='2009-01-03T18:15:05Z' progress=0.000000 cache=0.0MiB(0txo)
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Failed to open mempool file from disk. Continuing anyway.
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z block tree size = 1
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z nBestHeight = 0
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z AddLocal(172.105.84.86:8333,1)
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Discover: IPv4 eth0: 172.105.84.86
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z torcontrol thread start
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z loadblk thread exit
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Bound to 127.0.0.1:8334
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Bound to [::]:8333
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Bound to 0.0.0.0:8333
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z 0 block-relay-only anchors will be tried for connections.
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z init message: Starting network threads…
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z net thread start
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z dnsseed thread start
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Loading addresses from DNS seed seed.btc.petertodd.org.
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z addcon thread start
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z opencon thread start
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z msghand thread start
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z init message: Done loading
2023-11-22T14:47:29Z Loading addresses from DNS seed seed.bitcoin.wiz.biz.
2023-11-22T14:47:30Z Loading addresses from DNS seed seed.bitcoin.sprovoost.nl.
2023-11-22T14:47:30Z Loading addresses from DNS seed seed.bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch.
2023-11-22T14:47:30Z Loading addresses from DNS seed seed.bitcoin.sipa.be.
2023-11-22T14:47:30Z Loading addresses from DNS seed dnsseed.bluematt.me.
2023-11-22T14:47:30Z Loading addresses from DNS seed dnsseed.emzy.de.
2023-11-22T14:47:30Z Loading addresses from DNS seed seed.bitcoinstats.com.
2023-11-22T14:47:30Z Loading addresses from DNS seed dnsseed.bitcoin.dashjr.org.
2023-11-22T14:47:30Z 301 addresses found from DNS seeds
2023-11-22T14:47:30Z dnsseed thread exit
```

I believe you're just missing `signet` outside of the `signet` section:

```
signet=1
[signet]
signetchallenge=512102f7561d208dd9ae99bf497273e16f389bdbd6c4742ddb8e6b216e64fa2928ad8f51ae
addnode=45.79.52.207:38333
dnsseed=0
signetblocktime=30
```

It now is immediately updated; not sure if that's right though since it says `height=0`. Is there just a single block on mutinynet?

```
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z UpdateTip: new best=00000008819873e925422c1ff0f99f7cc9bbb232af63a077a480a3633bee1ef6 height=0 version=0x00000001 log2_work=22.206105 tx=1 date='2020-09-01T00:00:00Z' progress=1.000000
```

_full startup log:_

```
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Signet with challenge 512102f7561d208dd9ae99bf497273e16f389bdbd6c4742ddb8e6b216e64fa2928ad8f51ae
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Bitcoin Core version v24.99.0-gd8434da3c14ed6723d86ef2cd266008d366e1413 (release build)
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Signet derived magic (message start): a5df2dcb
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Using the 'x86_shani(1way,2way)' SHA256 implementation
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Using RdSeed as an additional entropy source
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Using RdRand as an additional entropy source
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Default data directory /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Using data directory /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/signet
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Config file: /var/lib/bitcoind/bitcoin-d8434da3c14e/bitcoin.conf
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Config file arg: signet="1"
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Config file arg: [signet] addnode="45.79.52.207:38333"
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Config file arg: [signet] dnsseed="0"
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Config file arg: [signet] signetblocktime="30"
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Config file arg: [signet] signetchallenge="512102f7561d208dd9ae99bf497273e16f389bdbd6c4742ddb8e6b216e64fa2928ad8f51ae"
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Command-line arg: conf="/var/lib/bitcoind/bitcoin-d8434da3c14e/bitcoin.conf"
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Using at most 125 automatic connections (1024 file descriptors available)
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Using 16 MiB out of 16 MiB requested for signature cache, able to store 524288 elements
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Using 16 MiB out of 16 MiB requested for script execution cache, able to store 524288 elements
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Script verification uses 0 additional threads
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z scheduler thread start
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Binding RPC on address ::1 port 38332
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Binding RPC on address 127.0.0.1 port 38332
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z [http] creating work queue of depth 16
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Using random cookie authentication.
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Generated RPC authentication cookie /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/signet/.cookie
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z [http] starting 4 worker threads
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Using wallet directory /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/signet/wallets
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z init message: Verifying wallet(s)…
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Using /16 prefix for IP bucketing
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z init message: Loading P2P addresses…
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Creating peers.dat because the file was not found ("/var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/signet/peers.dat")
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z init message: Loading banlist…
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Recreating the banlist database
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z SetNetworkActive: true
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Failed to read fee estimates from /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/signet/fee_estimates.dat. Continue anyway.
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Cache configuration:
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z * Using 2.0 MiB for block index database
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z * Using 8.0 MiB for chain state database
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z * Using 440.0 MiB for in-memory UTXO set (plus up to 286.1 MiB of unused mempool space)
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z init message: Loading block index…
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Validating signatures for all blocks.
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Setting nMinimumChainWork=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Opening LevelDB in /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/signet/blocks/index
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Opened LevelDB successfully
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Using obfuscation key for /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/signet/blocks/index: 0000000000000000
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z LoadBlockIndexDB: last block file = 0
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z LoadBlockIndexDB: last block file info: CBlockFileInfo(blocks=0, size=0, heights=0...0, time=1970-01-01...1970-01-01)
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Checking all blk files are present...
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Initializing databases...
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Initializing chainstate Chainstate [ibd] @ height -1 (null)
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Opening LevelDB in /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/signet/chainstate
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Opened LevelDB successfully
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Wrote new obfuscate key for /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/signet/chainstate: b8665971a96e4b44
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Using obfuscation key for /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/signet/chainstate: b8665971a96e4b44
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z [snapshot] allocating all cache to the IBD chainstate
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Opening LevelDB in /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/signet/chainstate
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Opened LevelDB successfully
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Using obfuscation key for /var/lib/bitcoind/.bitcoin/signet/chainstate: b8665971a96e4b44
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z [Chainstate [ibd] @ height -1 (null)] resized coinsdb cache to 8.0 MiB
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z [Chainstate [ibd] @ height -1 (null)] resized coinstip cache to 440.0 MiB
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z init message: Verifying blocks…
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z  block index               7ms
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Setting NODE_NETWORK on non-prune mode
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z loadblk thread start
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z UpdateTip: new best=00000008819873e925422c1ff0f99f7cc9bbb232af63a077a480a3633bee1ef6 height=0 version=0x00000001 log2_work=22.206105 tx=1 date='2020-09-01T00:00:00Z' progress=1.000000 cache=0.0MiB(0txo)
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Failed to open mempool file from disk. Continuing anyway.
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z block tree size = 1
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z nBestHeight = 0
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z AddLocal(172.105.84.86:38333,1)
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Discover: IPv4 eth0: 172.105.84.86
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Bound to 127.0.0.1:38334
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Bound to [::]:38333
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z Bound to 0.0.0.0:38333
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z 0 block-relay-only anchors will be tried for connections.
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z init message: Starting network threads…
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z DNS seeding disabled
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z loadblk thread exit
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z torcontrol thread start
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z net thread start
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z addcon thread start
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z opencon thread start
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z msghand thread start
2023-11-22T14:58:29Z init message: Done loading
```


This is the already biggest Stacker News thread by comments in site history, and the day is still young!

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