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 Yup, I can repro the problem on iOS. We'll look into it; thanks for reporting.  
 agreed that this is useful, but unfortunately it's not super easy for us to implement. we are considering it in a future release. thanks for the suggestion and keep them coming sir.  
 perhaps your list of feeds somehow got corrupted. try going to settings/feeds and click on “restore defaults”. 
 Primal for Android 0.100.7 has been released. Here is what we have for you: 

- Video uploads 
- Faster feed loading 
- Notifications facelift 
- Settings: font size 

Let us know how you like the new release or if you run into any issues. 

Enjoy! 🤙💜

https://primal.net/downloads  
 Participating in the Nostr booth at  @BTCPrague was a ton of fun. 

Thank you  @Derek Ross,  @AviBurra,  @Kieran,  @Martti Malmi,  @Svetski,  @PABLOF7z,  @paulinthejungle,  @moysie,  @pavle,  @alex,  @Marko,  and many others. We did it fam. ♥️

nostr:note13ue6fvc7dkknufhadhwtwf86sj2y85twa7ncgfvcvvhds45rmxqqphrn9g  
 Can you elaborate how you thing this should work? We are definitely open to suggestions. 
 Thank you nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr nostr:npub1l2vyh4... 
 Pleasure sharing the stage with you sir. Yeah, I think that went well!  
 I can't zap ⚡️you.

 #[2]  I found that recently I have several accounts with Alby that are u... 
 I am able to zap the acoustics account without issues.  
 Zap Mentions / some thoughts on broadcasting zaps...

Today on nostr zaps don't provide a great d... 
 love the idea 
 Is there some sort of algorithm on primals “Latest with replies” because I keep seeing posts ... 
 no algo, should be just the people you follow. anyone else having this issue? 
 “this little ’nostr bear market’ is adorable” -nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny34... 
 People have no idea how insane things are going to get on nostr. ✨ 
 new to this world… someone lead me in the direction of freedom knowledge and wisdom 
 Will do! 🫡  
 Zaps on Primal crush!  Congrats nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q58... 
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 I posted last week about how fast the number of users on Nostr was growing and had a bunch of cla... 
 I agree with this take. 

Our current user count calculation is very permissive: we count all public keys that have user metadata set. This can be gamed (anyone can create bot key pairs and set metadata for them), so our nostr user numbers are overstated. 

The alternative is to use a web of trust algorithm to identify real users based on follow connections. The downside of this technique is that we would be underestimating the number of real users because most new users won’t have any real followers initially. 

Given that other networks generously include bots when stating their user numbers, our approach is probably a decent apples-to-apples comparison. In fact, as you point out, nostr seems to have higher engagement per number of followers.

Having said all that, I am not happy with the fact that our numbers don’t reflect real users. We will work on improving these techniques, but I definitely don’t want to err on the side of excluding real users from the count.  
 Yes, that's the web of trust approach I mentioned above. We use it in some parts of Primal (e. g. to eliminate bots from trending feeds). Using it for user counts would understate the real user numbers tho.  
 Nostr will have the best algorithms. Can’t wait for an open marketplace for algos; it will be glorious. ✨

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 I hope we will see a vibrant market of both paid and free algos. Some algos might be very specialized, and it might make sense for some users to pay for them.  
 Great point. As nostr long form content becomes more popular (which it will, I guarantee it), we'll see some really interesting long form feeds.  
 Primal iOS build 1.7.21 is now live. Here’s what we have for you: 

- Faster rendering
- Wide feed layout 
- Top zaps in feeds 
- Notifications facelift 
- Improved app chrome 
- Improved connectivity 
- Wallet fixes & improvements

Let us know how you like the new features and what you would like to see next in Primal. 

Enjoy! 🤙💜

https://primal.net/downloads  
 Make sure you are holding your nsec (nostr private key). Choose the relays you wish to publish to. Even better: run your own relay.  
 Yes, we are looking at adding the ability to deactivate your primal wallet in the settings. Still thinking through the details of how that would work. 

App chrome is the top & bottom navigation bar that now hide more gracefully when you scroll through the feeds.  
 Not today, but soon™ 
 Not anymore. We had the option while we were still tinkering with layouts, but now we are leaning into the wide layout. 

I must say it took me a little while to get used to it, but now I feel it's superior to the narrow layout.  
 We support NWC on android. We actually had it implemented on iOS too, but had to remove it to pass app review. 😕  
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 Yeah it took me a little while to get used to it (because I am used to Twitter), but now I feel that the wide layout is superior.  
 Collecting KYC info is a legal requirement for offering a custodial wallet service. Agreed, we need to do a better job communicating this; it's on our to-do list for the next release. 

The Privacy Policy and Terms of Service links should work from within the app. Maybe it's an issue with smaller screen on iPhone SE. In any case, here are the links: 

https://primal.net/privacy 
https://primal.net/terms  
 Interesting. Do image uploads work for you?  
 I couldn't agree more Daniele. 🤝

We are currently working on marking long form content first class citizen on Primal. LFG! 
 Hey, nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr! Is there a way to cha... 
 Sure! We do this manually atm. Let us know your desired handle and we will get this done for you. 
 Done!  
 Openness is nostr’s killer feature. We still need to improve the UX around these scenarios, but once we do, and the ecosystem grows, it will be glorious. ✨

nostr:note18rt5avy5n2xhy5xvhkr7v06zfx590q6an8vtkque8v0hkv2fx0rqwea2de 
 Strange take. 

He sounds like he hasn't seen the list of projects supported by  @OpenSats. 
 Fair, doing that now. 
 my following list got nuked and its never been clearer we need some kind of user-controlled algo ... 
 Agreed. We are working on it at Primal. 🫡  
 New nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg update is 🔥

Noticea... 
 Thanks @MartyBent! You’re on private testflight; we’re aiming to ship this release on Monday. 
  @daylightco is giving away their amazing tablet device to the top zapper below. 

Top zap is just over 100k sats atm. Seems like a steal at that price. Let's see where we end up! 🍿 

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  @daylightco is giving away their amazing tablet device to the top zapper below. 

Top zap is just over 100k sats atm. Seems like a steal at that price. Let's see where we end up! 🍿 

nostr:note12tzr8uyf0ug5csg3xzeh0j8er46vv86kfycp848q95a0cnldhz2sm6sc92  
 It's frustrating not to get support here or via email 😔 nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7... 
 Apologies, we are usually very responsive. Somebody will reach out shortly. Please keep an eye on your DMs. 
 Nostr: PKC user, signed messages relayed, can be stored/re-relayed by anyone who sees them withou... 
 Some people need to try that last one for themselves to make sure.  
 Have tough questions for Primal? Chances are  @AviBurra and  @QW already covered them yesterday: 

- Primal wallet KYC 
- Partnership with Strike 
- Zapathon wrecking Primal wallet 
- “Social bitcoin wallet” positioning 
- Caching service centralizing factors 
- Raising VC money 
- Primal as a business 
- Ethical monetization 
- Primal trending feeds 
- Algorithms on Nostr 

https://fountain.fm/episode/68uj3G8uNLxbQUuqOG6D  
 Thanks for caring enough to listen and take the time to post follow-up questions. 

At my previous startup (Datazen) we developed a general purpose reporting product. Our customers were businesses of all sizes who wanted something better than Excel to visualize their data on mobile devices. The company was acquired by Microsoft in 2015 and our product was integrated into SQL Server Reporting Services. 

How is any of this problematic in the context of Nostr/Primal?  
 I don’t mind the scrutiny, I think it’s a feature of the nostr ecosystem, but please don’t base it on hypotheticals. Saying that we *could* change our terms in the future and *could* do something nefarious is not helpful. 

As I said before, we plan to monetize by offering a premium tier to our users. We will do that when we are ready. There is a lot to build and we need to make sure that we can provide enough value for people to actually pay for the premium tier.  
 So your criticism is that our Privacy Policy is subject to change? That is literally the case with every privacy policy in the world. As the project evolves and features are added, the privacy policy must be updated accordingly. For example, we had to update our Privacy Policy when we added the wallet feature. 

*If* we change our policy in the future to something that you think would be harmful to our users or the network, *then* by all means raise the flag and criticize us. Criticizing now based on the assumption that we *might* do it in the future is a bit premature.  
 Happy to respond to constructive criticism, but if the conversation degrades to name calling then yes, I’ll ignore you. Nothing personal I just don’t have time for that. 
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 You can tell who used primal to like or zap your note just by looking at your notifications.. 

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 thanks for the feedback; this is already on our radar! 
 the latest Primal update is noticably faster than before. wow. 👀 
 Yeah all Primal clients are benefiting from this upgrade 
 Primal says I have 16k followers but Amethyst says I only have some thousand or so.

My ego can't... 
 Always trust the bigger number 🤝 
 Update: the nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg team fixed my i... 
 Everything will get fixed. Thanks for reporting. 😉  
 Hey nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp... 
 Agreed; we'll fix that for the next release!  
 👏👏 HUGE THANKS to all the folks who helped make the initial launch a success! 

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 Congrats and LFG! ⚡  
 Investigating this now. Thanks for confirming that the payment was received  @kineticfinance. It looks like the zap receipt was not published by  @Wallet of Satoshi.  
 Primal Android users: we have a new build ready for you (0.99.4). Here’s what’s in it: 

- Visual polish: we fine-tuned the feed rendering as well as the various app chrome elements

- Activating the image viewer is now smoother 

- The sporadic user search crash should be fixed

We did these improvements for the upcoming 1.0 release, but decided to make them available right away. 

Enjoy! 

https://primal.net/downloads  
 definitely possible!  
 value that I will add to the nostr universe with my powerful skills:

- italianish super-mario-li... 
 just what we need