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Mentioning "real" use cases. Yeah sorry, you mentioned in production. These are not.


Not really. I mean it's just doing an OR. Taro will. BitVM will. MATT will. Liquid's big multisig also would be.


There's also kkkk which luso-africa also uses.


It's been in the Liquid road map for a long time.

We're using them for Ark too. No production yet. We use the root keyspend for the cosigning (clArk) and the leaf for the expiration clause.


Gottfrid Svartholm (co-founder of Pirate Bay) https://m.primal.net/MAPJ.jpg


I can see this upsets you, and I share some of your concerns about the price distraction.

But my response has always been to continue to do engineering the best I can. I'm my experience, it's the only way I can move the needle (and even then, no guarantees!)


Here are the very draft interpreter and BIPs for Script Restoration. I'm seeking comments (looking at nostr:nprofile1qqsdnpcgf3yrjz3fpawj5drq8tny74gn0kd54l7wmrqw4cpsav3z5fgpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqz9rhwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjmcprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumwdae8gtnnda3kjctvl3x2lg and nostr:nprofile1qqs2nep2pjnwfvfqszytdzj06eq8fqd3yps0j9dqlm95ezr524lrwjgpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8wetvd3hhyer9wghxuet5qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvfskueqpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdunyshzy here!) on all aspects, including format and what opcodes make sense to combine into a single proposal.

There are definitely some tweaks we could make to costing (it bugs me that the formula for OP_MUL is not symmetric, for example!), but that part is pretty solid.

Once we have a single proposal that we think is well-specified, reasonable and useful, it'll be time to get coauthors (I have a day job, and it's not this!) and formally propose it for broader scrutiny.

https://github.com/rustyrussell/bips/pull/1/

And interpreter (not other parts, so not actually usable except bench and test!):

https://github.com/rustyrussell/bitcoin/pull/1


Montes de parabéns pelo Davidson com o primeiro lugar do SATShack com o #Floresta Mobile App!

Super excited that Floresta, a #bitcoin light client based on #utreexo, is now working on mobile!

Very well deserved!

#satsconf2024 https://nostrcheck.me/media/a9e42a0ca6e4b1208088b68a4fd6407481b12060f915a0fecb4c8874557e3749/23d5f2fe96ca3d32dc8cf2e669c5fe58801b20cd81e7e621569ec218b4969c07.webp


Portugal highest as % of GDP.


I didn’t realize that Argentina 🇦🇷 had the greatest IMF debt in the world (~$50B).

Incinerating people’s savings, buying power, and money.

Good talk by nostr:npub1trr5r2nrpsk6xkjk5a7p6pfcryyt6yzsflwjmz6r7uj7lfkjxxtq78hdpu today at LABITCONF on the economic destruction that the IMF wreaks on the world. https://image.nostr.build/c0c932eb35e3a99570f0181ebaafab49f026c9fd722aa03d37fa04bf28e2206a.jpg https://image.nostr.build/2261506593ae2addd0369e538cacddbf26a05f083648615a2e5867d7b2de5862.jpg


Hear sharp.


> But despite im ogbonge rise, one deep mystery remain for im heart: wetin be di true identity of im founder, Satoshi Nakamoto?

They call it pidgin? That's Jamaican patois, right?


São Paulo so far:
- face scan required to enter accommodation
- passport and fingerprint requested to enter speaker drink venue
- phone number required to order beer in a bar
- haven't seen a single unit of physical currency

Didn't know dystopia already existed.


Been on #Mastodon for several years. It's pretty awesome. Great conversations usually, high signal. Actually higher signal than nostr, lots of spam here.


what have we become https://image.nostr.build/a174ff776ac855e968cdee68847177b281b983910c1a790f535d5ec5253b2329.png


😅 It's sad but it's true. I heard you say you'd try do cln and tgsr 50/50, that not working out then?


But the notifications don't have. And the 3 dots don't show when the post doesn't load.


Openvibe


Yeah I can't, the client doesn't expose the note ID.


It's from a bitcoin++ account with a different icon then the actual bitcoin++ account. Maybe it was a spambot?


Yeah. I like it, but it's quite new. I think the post really disappeared, but the supposed comments underneath might be a client issue.


The then status of TXHASH. Tbh not much has changed until now. But intention is to keep moving on the project again soon!  nostr:note1upmag2x9egvdh7vfwln37gyff2998tv4h49usy8d2cdagg806a4qv9vje6


Hell yeah! This was an amazing presentation. And an amazing project! Can't wait for progress on the development!  nostr:note1qvy47ffr5yzjyrjnwsgramzsmg8sksd8upt7d4mxe5ejk0aels2s3sl9fw


This nostr thing isn't really working too well. I get a notification, click on it, the post is gone. ( nostr:npub1e0z776cpe0gllgktjk54fuzv8pdfxmq6smsmh8xd7t8s7n474n9smk0txy it's yours)
Then it shows a ton of supposed replies that seem random posts and not replies. If they are replies, the spam problem is huge on here..  https://nostrcheck.me/media/a9e42a0ca6e4b1208088b68a4fd6407481b12060f915a0fecb4c8874557e3749/84e012e9f94fab6b932f6c661ac1ca32a4a7d0c1a3308f8d9ae02b60c7722473.webp https://nostrcheck.me/media/a9e42a0ca6e4b1208088b68a4fd6407481b12060f915a0fecb4c8874557e3749/fb50cd05d9efad4630af9de3e632ffb7e4f0f635976884c241a03b026dce1985.webp https://nostrcheck.me/media/a9e42a0ca6e4b1208088b68a4fd6407481b12060f915a0fecb4c8874557e3749/074567123b350b6977335948eb962c2d8c0a2f0a2af814278a3634edc97d2964.webp


in brazil this February!! https://btcpp.dev/conf/floripa


To do what? Serious question


I literally just wrote out what I call capitalism and then you describe something entirely different? All I can say is that I indeed won't call that capitalism. But it's orthogonal. It's a broken system that among other things, like racist and undemocratic, also is capitalist.


Make Bitcoin conferences weird again https://files.sovbit.host/media/50d94fc2d8580c682b071a542f8b1e31a200b0508bab95a33bef0855df281d63/a26055ce321865430656a8aaf847d6bc77a36d74d6822ad27e834d24242c25ca.webp


#oddlysatisfying


A panel...
https://www.youtube.com/live/uCyRffPdsaU https://image.nostr.build/ea7830511c2cd1af6b67b98a67d2994181c49006224ce2c52482606b96cf5ea6.jpg


Is that regular water it goes into? I was surprised it wasn't boiling


I know that some people have some very liberal definition of capitalism as basically freedom, but that's not what it is. It says capital in the name for a reason. Capitalism is the doctrine in which the owner of the capital is also the right-holder of the goods produced using the capital. Nothing more nothing less.
The while free market craze is kinda misplaced because by definition, capitalism is a market disturbance.


Capitalism is no different though. Likely even more. Socialism has a pretty loose definition, you could probably count many anarchist societies as socialist. It's kinda natural to socialize common resources. But capitalism can really only exist with a government. It's quite unnatural that capital is privately owned and workers have to yield production to supposed owners.


Why? Signal and OMEMO (Jabber) both support private group chats.


I'm at Bitcoin Amsterdam, but spent half the day finishing some Signal-style double ratchet messaging.

Deployed an experimental version on https://iris.to. You can create chat invite links and give them to friends via QR or other messaging. The UI is still lacking and glitchy, but just had to demo at the conference.

The chats cannot be publicly linked to either participant, and even if your main Nostr key is revealed, the content and existence of past messages stays hidden.
 https://image.nostr.build/b4533acd973793f7114fd5c272ccd5b5045ea0bd127c214e8314fc4c8282a354.png
 https://image.nostr.build/ded8c0437548cb1359d34b43b966b64f798cd2f98ae5f859771f47cc551cd5bd.png
 https://image.nostr.build/4458f2de8f4d424aff137d2d7ed283dd27501e1abc0a43234405008614a5cb70.png

Also published npm package nostr-double-ratchet 0.0.1: https://www.npmjs.com/package/nostr-double-ratchet

It's not actually double ratchet yet, but the single ratchet already achieves forward and backward secrecy.

The second ratchet would help secure the latest consecutive messages by same author, in case a message key for the most recent of their messages is compromised. That makes disappearing messages or manually deleted messages more secure. I guess we'll have to do it so we can say "Signal-level security".

This is obviously not tested or audited yet, but probably it's not worse than normal Nostr DMs 😅

You can take a look at the source code, but I'll write a better technical description later. It's using existing Nostr cryptography + some key derivation stuff. Chat invites use gift wrap -like arrangement addressed to the inviter's temporary session key. https://github.com/mmalmi/nostr-double-ratchet


Never heard of an Unconference?

Picture this: no boring slides how's, no rigid agenda - just pure collaboration and innovation.

💡 Got a half-baked idea? Stuck on a Bitcoin problem? Bring it to #SatsNFacts and let’s build it together.

📍 Chiang Mai, Feb 2025


Onde é que está este lugar?


How does ecash do proof-of-payment?


This map of military sites in Syria by country makes me realize that the Middle East wars are a lot more complicated than the media portrays.

https://i.nostr.build/o5NCno9oNLadopRJ.jpg


* "in the trenches": bitcoin core
- gloria
- that fuzzer guy I keep forgetting the  name of, he's German
- fanquake

* "mad scientist": novel new protocol stuff
- Robin Linus with BitVM
- Rusty with The Great Script Restoration (maybe a misnomer but the generalized cost function idea is novel work)
- Jonas Nick (with Veronika if I'm not mistaken) (et al?) with Shielded CSV
- Josie Bake with Silent Payments

* "user go up": getting stuff in the hands of users
- Rust for bolt12
- Silent Payments could also fit here
- Luke Childs of Umbrel

Rough ideas, keep your sats 😅


We have 141 contributors to bitcoin core in roughly the last 12ish months for github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin going back to v24.1

I just realized I'm denoted as one of them on the 26 release. 😅 Many like me may only have trivial commits, but it's still pretty cool to be associated along some very talented people.

26 contributors are active on 3+ releases in the 12 months. I'm planning an award ceremony at  nostr:npub17yqgpat6e6ensd78jqhj4c3ef03uq04uqu3z05rhjnlk67lwm8wq9w5269 this year to help bring to light some of the hard work done behind the scenes for Bitcoin and related projects. Starting the tradition this year.


I've been noticing more and more websites and services block people using a VPN. It annoys me a lot. nixos.wiki for example block all VPN traffic.

Now it seems you can't watch YouTube videos without logging in anymore.

The internet is literally getting worse and worse every year.  https://nostrcheck.me/media/a9e42a0ca6e4b1208088b68a4fd6407481b12060f915a0fecb4c8874557e3749/456467399e462010705c01ed16b1d7d462ce79122db0309bbac24b13fe91246d.webp


I'm using this new #Mastodon + #Nostr client called #openvibe. It has a way to go, but I feel that it's on the right track. Single feed for an account on each network.

Ideally I'd have my reposts be posted on both sides. It also often loses track of where I am on the time-line. But in general the experience is pretty smooth!

 @openvibe@mastodon.social keep it up!


OK can skmeone just spell out what spc and fse stand for? Thanks..


Exactly. You can't "skim" over something in voice. Like glance for keywords or structure.


This sounds more like instant messaging voice notes, no? Instead of broadcast voice notes like birdsite. Never seen a voice note over there.


It is, exactly this. It's dubbed "clArk" for covenant-less Ark. Obviously we want covenants, ideally a CTV of TXHASH like one that can commit the entire tx. But until then, we have clArk.


They're friends, I'm an advisor for them. I did a bit of development for a while, but now it's mostly advising with my Liquid experience.


Last week we announced our new company Second. We're building an implementation of the Ark protocol on #bitcoin to improve the payment experience.
Some bitcoiners joined us to make the first payments on mainnet!
We're also hiring!

https://blog.second.tech/demoing-the-first-ark-transactions-on-bitcoin-mainnet/


Things aren't getting any better in Camp America

#bitcoin #trump https://nostrcheck.me/media/a9e42a0ca6e4b1208088b68a4fd6407481b12060f915a0fecb4c8874557e3749/8e58e6b43e3b05759f675955e47466b40a03e9e2443b6b7d6dddb4e0b50e0e0c.webp


What The Actual Fuck

How on Earth people can take this guy for some kind of hero is beyond me. Whatever news I've heard from him in the last several years has been nothing but cringe. Sure, you got bullied as a child, get therapy instead of forcing your issues on the world.
 #elonmusk


Lol that flag


My favorite page on the StLouisFed .org (FRED) site:

"Buying eggs with bitcoins."

Since they started keeping track in January 2015 through August 2024, the price of a dozen eggs:

- In US dollars: Up +51.7%, from $2.11 to $3.20.

https://m.primal.net/KpFe.png

- In #bitcoin: Down -99.4%, from 925,406 sats to 5,348 sats.

https://m.primal.net/KpFd.png

CONCLUSION: Life gets ever more expensive the longer you save in dollars (or any government fiat currency), while it generally gets (much) cheaper the longer you save in #bitcoin.

Inflationary fiat currency versus neutral inelastic energy money...

The choice is yours.

Source: https://fredblog.stlouisfed.org/2022/06/buying-eggs-with-bitcoins/


😅 Would have been a lot nicer if the camera wasn't pointed to the ground 😅
Cool to meet fellow #climbing #bitcoin devs on here!


Wait for it :)


Seems like I'm back on both #Mastodon and #nostr. Using openvibe, seems pretty great!


Where can I find info on nostrica?