Yes, I agree, I’m just trying to be realistic - nostr today doesn’t have a lot of problems not because nostr solved them - but mostly because there are no interest to abuse nostr right now because of the tiny userbase

However, constant messages about how great nostr today makes a lot of unaware people to believe that will always stay the same. And others as a consequence believe nothing should be done with nostr cause nostr already won

Instead it would be great to focus on future and understand what should be improved :)


Congrats, no one uses nostr today 👍


No source of course 👌


People who just condemn any violence are just tyrants/aggressors supporters. Unfortunately, this is how the world works


The most flawed approach for a regular client that normies would use. Its interesting though for crawlers and similar of course


Well, first, while you can’t use twitter without being logged in, there is still no KYC. You can easily use it with proton main or similar or even with your self hosted email service with some efforts and virtual/prepaid phone numbers, no KYC at all

But if spreading links (lnurl) is “sending bitcoin payments” then the future is already here — just print lnurl qr code and put it in real world on walls and trees, no KYC and sign up

I just don’t understand why ppl need to attach some magic to nostr that has no relation to it.

Do we really want to manipulate people to join nostr because of the things nostr doesn’t completely relate to?


You can still click links on twitter without being logged in


Oh, so payers decides who will get to work on their order right?


Adsense works because you trust google and google constantly “checks results” - it moderates ads, runs fraud detection, bans bots and scrapers from google search etc etc etc. so basically its googles killer feature how to check the results and its closed sourced

It can be called performance metrics too, yes, but those metrics should be evaluated by one who receives sats imo. Or do you think its just a payer who has to validate results and decide if they want to continue working or better find another service provider?

If its upto payer then how you protect from the basic form of fraud like “saying I finished work for every incoming task”? You want to assign scores using web of trust and limit the usage of your app to those who have rating above X?


Forgot, you must validate results because there can be a bot that listens for events and automatically submit max scores right when job is ready for work


Lets say I want to pay 100k sats for labeling of 1000 nostr notes. I send sats to you somehow since you hosting the app, correct?

Then your app show this order as “ready for work” or something. And then participants can take that order in work. They can constantly stream their progress and once they reach 1000 they get automatically paid

The thing is, if my assumption is correct that you get sats because you host the app, then you must validate workers results to maintain your reputation. There are probably infinite ways on how to validate, simplest are like:

1) KYC workers on sign up to check their skills etc and if customers complain, figure it out with workers what was wrong
2) once worker submitted score 1000 validate actual results for instance by manually scanning random 100 records and penalize worker if errors found

And in this case its a very interesting system however the main killer feature part is validation. Do you have any specific ideas on validation flows or you have different priorities for now?


What about validating self-produced scores? Is it supposed some actor in the middleware should be responsible to verify those scores?


Who paid you 185k sats?


Of course its the same with nostr as with any other service 🤦♂


It seems to me its just your (and may this guys followers) interpretation if this term isn’t it?

Because if he would actually write what he means it would stop being clickbait and appeared to be meaningless, see:

Show me a person who believes the problem can be solved with more irresponsible and uncontrolled printing of money which end up at small group pockets and I’ll …

Compare to:

Show me a person who believes the problem can be solved with responsible distribution of money across vital social institutes i.e military, healthcare, post delivery to far rural areas in order to achieve democracy principles and I’ll …

That what clickbait means. That how narrative manipulation on internet looks like. This guy is a poor bitcoin promoter, I’m sad to be on the same side with such a guy


Sounds like $30 for 4-20 hours task


No offends but its very sad there are no bitcoin promoters who can hold basic levels of critics after bitcointalk era ended around 2011


govt and tax removal*


So you understand that you want to support military right? I also think you understand its hella expensive. Do you suggest direct volunteer funding of military with bitcoin donations?

I don’t have an answer to how this should work. I’m just sure it makes no sense discussing complete govt and removal without prior understanding of how to protect yourself from external threat at least. Unfortunately I had to learn it hard way on my own experience


That while bitcoin is important, its not the fight between you and govt

My point is we have to reshape our govts to work with bitcoin. And not remove govts to be able to freely work with bitcoin. Because we are govt at the end of the day

I often see bitcoin promoters who want 100% bitcoin free life, no inflation, no taxes. But then they forget all govt gives them and takes that for granted. And also they don’t want to think how can bitcoin without govts and military protect them from barbarians who divide and concur (and unfortunately they still ecost)


English is indeed my 2nd language and I may very well be wrong here. I just see every message of this author to be a clickbait which is at best debatable due to wording and at worst is strict lies

So tell me please, is it lexically incorrect to say that manipulating self hosted bitcoin node in a skillful manner I can send money through the mixer to hide its origins?


So lets say you are pro in terms of allowing other parents do w/e shit they want to their kids (I do, I’m against those devices but I think if one wants to attach it to their kid, they must be able to)

And your device that blocks camera etc is gonna take such possibility out of those people. Thats just demonstration of why democracy is complex and mot everything has an easy solution and “its just they who are bad”


Did you think of what happens once you successfully defeat your military industrial complex? You protect your bitcoin from your evil govt, but who then protects you?

You know, there are whole nations who don’t give a fuck neither about bitcoin nor freedom


Bitcoin transfer - is a form of manipulation of money. Does this guy have any content that is not a clickbait manipulation?


What do you think about GPS trackers some parents attach to their kids clothes/stuff?


No, you are very wrong and you don’t understand anything on this topic but already do an analysis.

rusians goals are not achieved. Their goals are not a land corridor, not Crimea, not even entire Ukraine and not even USSR resurrection

Their goal is to become a superpower it once was (in their minds) without actually behaving any laws. You then think where their goals end. And don’t forget they border with US too https://image.nostr.build/8c7681f58225b4655b0f10cd807122be196e562312ecc87b9d537e540ebd47e6.png


Do you need a nostr events database dump?


How is sending bitcoin through nostr is different from clicking lnurl on twitter?


Yeah thats exactly what bitcoin cultists say. But if you DYOR (it seems not many ppl know what it stands for today) you will find out there are cults without leaders


If one learns bitcoin today through social media then its almost indistinguishable from a sect/cult


I always challenged the saying “if a person is talented in one then they talented in all”

But I’m almost there to start believing “it a person is publicly dumb at one then they are totally dumb in everything”, its just too many proofs out there


UN doesn’t make sense after USSR collapse, there is no sense to sponsor it actually, but “network effect” will fuel them for a long time probably


For some reason no one cares when UN was celebrating rusia language day on the day when rusia terrorists killed tens of civilians with a precious strategic missile strike


Oh poor rusians its all because the entire world is against them, crycrycry


Modified events are invalid. Clients which not validate events can hardly be called “nostr clients”


Because there is no such thing as a free speech


And what happens after a leader of one tribe defeated? Tribes merge, run democratic elections and live in peace in prosperity and with another?


Such a good manipulation. Free market does not have natural state because it is unnatural and completely artificial.


There are many secure password generators and many apps require stronger passwords but the majority of passwords are “qwerty123” and alike

The point here is, you must introduce complexity into your password and different mechanics (mnemonics, special characters, secret words etc) can’t render this fact unnecessary


And the key here is “random”. And people are not designed to produce truly random data out if the box


LeaderA defeats LeaderB and TribeA must accept committing suicide because its leaders will. Got it. Perfect system for slaves.

JFYI your post is too dull to be a joke and too joke to be considered as “a thought”


As well as chances to successfully monetize microapp


Human natures is to take what we have for granted and always being unhappy with it.

I personally assume nature made former to let us be more efficient (i.e. not spend all the time being astonished on how the sun is so shiny wow but for everything around) and latter to force us progress

So nothing unusual in this article. Another guy could read it and say “hey dude I’m trying to get kids for 30 years straight with my wife and would give everything for just to be at your place”


Indeed, British settlers not Americans


So do you wait for the pain in rusia, or do you stop waiting for political consensus in rusia?


Regarding GDPR I would say its far from perfect obviously because the topic is complex. But do you want to say its a bad thing govt make corporations put users in control of their data? Is it a bad think I can request all my data from Facebook they have on me? Is it bad they have to put efforts to control this data not be breached?

Regarding everything else regarding IP sorry I’m not following clearly - this is my exact concern that my IP and other sensitive information could get to ANYONE just because I open a nostr client. And yes I’m much less concerned about Google knowing a lot about me than my neighbors or boss

Anyway, there are decades of software development and web software development and they have basic things in common. And all we discuss here assumes that nostr is so special that we should avoid all that experience


Browsers don’t make arbitrary requests. They open site you ask them too and follow links from that site are trusted. And also they put tremendous efforts to make it as safe as possible. And when some of the links leads to untrusted site its called XSS

As you said, clients should put users in control - I’m not against this feature, I’m just saying this feature must be implemented responsibly

If bob suddenly changes relay I want to know it. And if it happens he posts to nsa.gov from now on I want to be able to say bye  ye Bob


One of the recent examples nostr:note100f6ved99q3ldpst728rpm0n3d0nqmptuey3xnh6wuct303lms7sepgqrj


Well, it was <s> of course but I see most of the people on nostr to reject any type of moderation/curation hopiuming to “do everything on their own” or “utilize client algos” (?)

But maybe it just has to be brought by a note charismatic personality in order for nostr community to embrace it (:


But, but… this is censorship! Or if rusiaboy is doing that then its freespeech?


Its PII according to GDPR and many other laws in different jurisdictions. And of course its not only IP that a client send to random server - take at least some filters, default settings etc. if uncontrolled there may be clients who share you location by default using outbox model, is this private enough?

90% of modern internet security is “avoid visiting bad sites” and yet people fail it. And today you visit websites you consciously decided to visit while software prevents any attempts to automate it - https strict download, email magic pixels, CORS policies etc etc

If you want outbox model to be used by advanced users who did setup tor-only access for a device - well, it seems to me then it would be a struggle to male it worth it because 572 users relays could be memorized in mind :)

But if you want to have outbox model feature available for regular users, you have to start with tons of security considerations and configurations

I would never use a piece of software which may make arbitrary requests to arbitrary servers and I would discourage everyone to do it


Your IP to begin with


Unfortunately, I know completely different reality what happens after you enter US (legally, but that should be better I assume)


So nobody afraid of their private data sent to arbitrary servers, right? I’m just a bit confused, yesterday it was called spying and malware and today its a boon for decentralization — hype cycles are so fickle, fascinating!


Your position is clear and in some way it is pretty justified — because you are a naive selfish guy who only thinks about today, and it should be totally fine to be this guy in a free democratic world :)

Thankfully, obviously, you are minority so humanity got a chance, because there are still non-democratic govts exist who don’t care about freedoms

Wish you all the best 🤞🏻


Are you kidding? When there is agreement, there is a clear enough. If you want it to sound easy, then according to Budapest memo “enough” is when Ukrainian sovereignty is restored at 1991 borders. Is this clear enough?

Thats actually your country (therefore YOU even if you don’t like it) — obligated to guarantee in terms of international laws. We ask MUCH less. You are dancing to give NOTHING.

If you want to be unreliable partner, say it directly first


>>> It’s [nostr] already won because it’s a protocol & not a platform owned my a greedy conglomerate.

Is this a good argument?


I could only summon my friend Occama to counter that


I don’t want to disappoint you with reality but nostr hasn’t won yet. And there are a lot of protocols created during last decades, many even more censorship-resistant, did they also win? If I create the same protocol as nostr but with all keywords capitalized or in spanish does it also win by default?

The problem with what you call censorship is complex because everyone  views it in their personal way :) which is kinda incompatible with “global discourse”

And you also want moderation. Now you call it “mute and paid relays” and looking forward for “client algos” then you will call it “topical relays” or similar

There also will be people who will kinda get as close to “no moderation” as possible - by using only private/family relays (which is a moderation by social graph property under the hood)

So, moderation will always take place in something bigger than monologue. The question is how to take control over this moderation so it would match your needs as much as YOU want as possible instead of the platforms CEO AND keep room for global-or-similar discourse


Well, I can tell you then what technical problems exist — paid/good relays work today cause nobody actually takes nostr seriously and it exists like echo chamber. It all ends once there are a lot of ppl to attract businesses, scammers, SEO/SMM specialists etc

Client side algos won’t work. Algo by design needs a big corpus of documents that gets processed non-stop and requires biased development of both engineers and data scientists. So its a server side thing and your phone will never handle it so its actually a type of moderation. Hopefully, somehow it will be possible to chose “algos providers” but technically its EXTREMELY challenging

Moderation is a very complex topic and it can’t be solved solely technically (again, unless all you want is to communicate with friends and family). You can start overview the most basic problems of centralized social networks here https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/02/hey-elon-let-me-help-you-speed-run-the-content-moderation-learning-curve/ which actually don’t go away anywhere just because we use standardized API format anyone can build for


Do you have any surface understanding of how this client level algo could be implemented? I am a developer and I don’t see anything possible to what you describe

If you mute people manually - then again you can only read a bunch of your friends, is this the experience you are looking for on nostr? Why wouldn’t you subscribe to some blogs/substacks instead?

Paid relays can’t handle spam/recommendations just by being paid. They have to “put some biased algo”


How would you do it? Is it a hopium or you have a clear vision? I don’t see any way of dealing with spam and similar without algos unless you want to only read a bunch of your close friends

Or are you saying you will implement and enforce your own algo?


So even if your entire feed is full of chiese/japanese you don’t know, low quality nsfw, shitcoin scams and ads - you like it more than moderated content?

I hope you keep in mind, what you see on nostr now (if you happen to like it) is completely not the same as you will see once nostr gets traction and multiple parties want to abuse it

Its just childish to believe no control works just because some part of control you have experienced hasn’t matched your expectations


All Budapest memo signers broke it in Feb 2014 and it hasn’t changed till today.  In fact it became useless even though:
1) Ukraine didn’t break it
2) Ukraine didn’t receive back anything what it exchanged for it

If you want to argue about philosophical differences between “a promise”, “a guarantee” etc in a document signed decades ago by different generations - then dictatorships already won

If you don’t believe a random guy ok the internet - see how entire countries react to that kind of “promises” — Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia give Ukraine ALL they can because they understand they are at the biggest risk. Poland on the other hand stocks up weapon as mad and increases army reserves because it can afford it. Why do they do it? Because they love Ukraine and war? Or because they understand Article 5 has very high chances to become next Budapest memo?


So you don’t see any problem in your phone sending all your personal data to arbitrary servers?


Great! Working on something similar. The more the better. Hope to see more technical details :)


I hope you never get into my situation, but I would without thinking change all my income streams in order to return at least what we had - say, nukes and other heavy equipment. And there are more than 50% of Ukrainians thinking the same after 2022

I can’t answer how would I feel if I would be in your situation without actually understanding what is war. Maybe I would take the same position as you. I also was pretty blind between 2013 and 2017 when war was 100km away from me but I didn’t feel it and believed it never touches me. Now I just view a lot of things differently and trying to share experience of my errors which could help others

P.S. I assume you not only want to avoid printing money in order to support Ukraine, you just want to distance out, because if money is a problem you could just sent troops in order to meet Budapest memorandum liabilities :) but money is the least of help

P.S.S. If GDP is not an indicator for you, take another example - while US sent millions of dollars in water and shovels in the first months Poland sent a couple of hundreds of tanks which in dollar equivalent are peanuts but in survivability terms are MUCH more valuable


Lol an Israelian in Israel seeking to team up with someone from Gaza. What did you know about Israel before 7th October 2023?


Why people think they are the most experts in thing they are the least able to understand…


I never said this. I’m saying that this is only illusion to believe that it will stop on Ukraine. rusia gets Ukraine, then Eastern Europe, then gets all former USSR republics, then Iran gets middle East and China gets Asia. And then its just a matter of time when this this banner stops being a local joke (it says Alaska is ours)

Canada made a lot, there is huge Ukrainian diaspora. There are Latvia and Lithuania who put HUGE amount of their GDP into Ukraines support (which is understandable since they are next if Ukraine falls, however of course its peanuts comparing to US part with a miserable GDP part). I don’t understand what you are looking for here? US support is big. But its not only one. Other countries combined made MUCH more than US actually. But the main point here - democracies all-together here in this fight, even though today its UA and IL sacrificing their lives, before it was Sakartvelo, Moldova and Ichkeriya, tomorrow it could very well be US if we don’t unite in time https://image.nostr.build/8c7681f58225b4655b0f10cd807122be196e562312ecc87b9d537e540ebd47e6.png


“Southern invasion” 😂😂😂😂 I have nothing to say

In reality this is a war started after WW2 between democracies and dictatorships. So, yes, Ukraine and Israel are just examples of countries having active war actions right now making other countries free of spilling their blood


The end game of my position is myself alive, my family is alive, my friends are alive and my country exists

The only answer to this is weapon unfortunately, which I also hate. But there is no other way irregardless of how much people far away would like to dream, period


And btw, do you really believe those are “regional conflicts” and while your neighbors are kind Canadians and working Mexicans — you are fine having prosperous life, better than before even if your allies burn in fire because of having wrong neighbors? And those “conflicts” never touch you?

Do you really believe in this and don’t even think that those “regional conflicts”   are actually protecting you?


In reality probably there is no difference because at some point there will definitely exist some kinds overlaps or misusage and clients will have to also differentiate kinds by some tags


US is one of the best Ukraines ally. But you want to make it something different because you are tired of responsibility


So in short your suggestion is let rusia genocide 40 millions of citizens of my country because a long time ago your country madd a lot of mistakes which affect your life (inflation mostly) and you are tired with this and don’t want to be responsible for past liabilities?

P.S. nukes were actually taken by force because there were disastrous consequences if we won’t in short


Until this start happening it means nobody actually use nostr yet


Where are nuclear arsenal US was first to take from Ukraine? If you plan to stop “funding endless wars” do you also have plan first to fix ALL OF YOUR mistakes?


Sounds very Brave


It could be bad cause more wars is bad
But on the other hand terrorists only fear power so paradox but more war could be less war 🫠


War is always bad. But often times unfortunately “no war” from one of the sides is even worse to some side


Thats my point, I think relative value of 3gs is tremendously bigger than of 15. And today we seem like mostly produce iphone 15s in most of the areas rather than 3gss

Hope to be wrong and probably there are many important things are created. But it often feels like we use resources less efficiently year to year


Is iPhone 15 wealthier than iPhone 3gs?


I would really like to hear another take ok how US actually started the rusia invasion in Ukraine back into 2014, got anything for me? Haven’t used twitter for a while, missing that topic


Is this good or bad?


No please there are a lot of beautiful girls (or guys)


Do you mind writing a more detailed message on how you view that problem actually without abstractions?

There are people who want to separate money and state, media and state. But there are still violence in the world, you know

Do you expect a nation (and a govt as a consequence) to fight with their enemy with arms, guns, tanks, jets and missiles, but once it comes to finance you want them to stop and say “ok, we won’t fight those who want our death on bitcoin field because its immoral and everyone even including our enemy must have access to basic needs like food, water, internet and bitcoin”?

Its very easy to describe topic from one side and omit uncomfortable things, right?


I would love to have node and private server on the phone. But I’m looking realistically to that applying to real life and I’m very skeptical its possible in the nearest future

Especially given the fact how mobile networks routing work, this is the main issue today, not even battery size

Lets say I only use LTE today, which IP address should my phone expose without any centralized signaling services? Last time I checked it wasn’t possible. P2P doesn’t work today. Thats  actually the reason why nostr works as it works


Even if we omit the fact that it is extremely inconvenient to live off of a power socket, thats what I’m talking about - white collars could be a part of this movement. However, there are like 99% of population who are not white collars.

There are people at work who get fines for only looking at the phone to check time, you know?


Sounds like you don’t know how the most population on the planet live and work.

This model could spread bitcoin among white collars though


You obviously don’t travel near power sockets and it steals your time from traveling if you have to charge your phone or your self

If we speak about people in software development they indeed live and work at the same place and have power most if the time

If we speak about the majority of normal people – they are still at home in the morning at at night, and they work far away from power socket or can’t use it all the time


This long name is a workaround for clients which don’t implement auth. And unfortunately some clients share this info without consent https://image.nostr.build/0a7d7b7dd89c17bf8b24b38df87c8235c3105ed9ed05f6fa6b0ff4cd4162b2af.png


FYI Saltivka has being a contested region and had always been Ukraine.


Yeah, actual numbers are much bigger, I thought as an online expert in terrorism you have must known it, but as most you probably only reject official numbers when its convenient for you

I asked you a question and instead of answering it you want to change the subject to manipulate on actual topic. Why would anyone should treat you seriously at all?


There were more people executed in Bucha alone by rusian terrorists, why it happens hamas supports death of Ukrainians and friends with rusians, do you have an answer for that?


People talking about wars while seating miles away and who also have never heard an explosion look completely as a tv-show watchers — they think that good guys must first of all prioritize being saint  even before their personal safety and safety of their families 👍 such a position definitely makes such comments very useful to the world


What is the difference between “niche relay about bitcoin” and “account that only posts about bitcoin”?


Nope, it seems like 99%+ of mastodon content on nostr is stupid


Great! Tell me please, you have extracted some additional data for events (language, category, etc) — what is your vision on how existing clients could use it? Or do you only expect new clients (or features in existing clients) to handle your relay?


It seems like 90% of the time I encounter a stupid post, its coming from mastodon 🤔


Oh, thats so bad. Sqlite is great but not for the reasons mentioned there. And its not comparable to postgres/mysql etc and most of the time can’t be used as an alternative


If there would exist incredible technologies aliens or magic would be required to hide it afterwards


Nothing, until their employers get real response instead of “high level of concerns”

Dictators will not be stopped by diplomacy, they only understand the language of force


The war is on for decades already but calling few terrorists a world - is exactly what they want - just make them bigger than they are


So if you want to use bitcoin you have to live near a power socket? Or use a 5kg phones?


You don’t look like an influencer looking for hype, are you REALLY that dumb?

You have your education, housing and health THANK TO your military. My country does not have it because your country forced my to give away our nukes unfortunately

If you hope that there is no evil on your continent (yet) so let others burn while you are good, well, thats stupid and naive https://image.nostr.build/8c7681f58225b4655b0f10cd807122be196e562312ecc87b9d537e540ebd47e6.png


You promote alby like this is the best tool ever existed on internet. And you can’t remove alby from your post because without it you will have to do the most inconvenient and insecure things - putting your pk into different unknown clients

But alby currently is probably the worst part of nostr that ruins all the decentralization attempts. And while this could become a long debate — its way too irresponsible to mention alby without describing its risks


You can’t use the system without an app and this system while provides some benefits also puts some constraints. Its not correct to say it mildly to review benefits without constraints

How good nostr (and bitcoin too btw) is, its still very far from mainstream usage and requires huge efforts to move there. While some constraints may even not  e solved, which could require UX shift which regular users might not like to do and this is a whole big threat to nostr that must also be addressed in every message if we want it to succeed

Just imagine a regular user reads through all the hype, decides to join and loses something really important - it would be close to impossible to get them back


Did alby pass any independent audit? Is there any supply chain attack considered? Do you have plan if your nostr pk gets compromised? Are you willing take 100% responsibility to not lose your pk accidentally? Do you expect your mom to take the same level of responsibility?

Its good to highlight pros but you must pay more attention to cons


Then magic or aliens?


You just share clickbates without any meaningfulness, right?

People have to be free to say any shit but companies should not be free to fire them?

Should anyone be able to say anything both on internet and offline without any consequences you think, do I get you right?


Ukrainian post labels boxes which survived rusian rocket hit and delivers on time.

Does your country post operator work on weekends?

#asknostr https://image.nostr.build/e8e0b860941f77ea56e888e93005f6466bde5ba880f3092a990a0dbc1e5d9868.jpg


And what will happen to El Salvador in this case?


Obviously your imagination is wrong. There were zero rusians killed thanks to snowdenko for sure, while every Ukrainian was forced to contribute recently to make this world a bit better


How is your resisting going in rusia?


I have no idea who was saying that. OpenAI was forced to obey the laws in Europe that were created long before they dropped chat gpt. And its a good thing. Thanks to Italy perhaps today OpenAI at least says on their website (which most of the ppl don’t believe though) that they don’t use your data for their own benefit

And after Italy “AI ban” perhaps we have Azure ChatGPT which is better than OpenAIs chat gpt and its much easier to believe their guarantees than OpenAIs

So here govt did a good thing with “AI ban” that so many people were screaming about


IMO its ok to say AI in terms of technology that detects persons face on iphone, or places in warcraft against you or whatever

However if you want to seriously talk about Artificial Intelligent capabilities and its impact on human life and you know all those words - then its your responsibility to explain your readers/listeners there is no artificial intelligence in existence and even on the horizon (even if you believe that it somehow can change the game). If you don’t do this and just say “AI will help people to defeat govts” you use the same manipulation tactics that are used by everyone who wants hype on social media


In deflationary economy? Lets quickly think here.

TL;DR its a VERY complex topic and I would like more energy put into researches then it goes into “few understand it” and “bitcoin fixes this”

First, I would point that even today there are a lot of people who have enough money to cover their basic needs even without having to work (creating value) — I’m talking homeless and some set of mild criminals, not billionaires. Its just their “enough” is pretty close to zero. Also, there are very many people who do the smallest amount of work just to cover their basic needs because they don’t want to improve their lifestyle because of laziness or can’t due to health issues. So all those types of people unlikely to contribute more in case of money become more and more expensive with time. At best - they will have slightly better lifestyle. At worst - number of types of those people will increase.

Second, lets imagine today all fiat currencies disappear, everything is priced in bitcoin. Each day you can buy more and more if you have bitcoin. (We probably have to omit what happens to the world since govts can’t properly fund themselves but thats completely another story). Then if all the money you can save only buys more bread and water each day (change to some food you like) and you have where to live and utilities also get less expensive somehow then you can pretty preciously calculate how much amount of money you need to live until 90 years. And you have a clear retirement plan “earn X btc and stop working”

However, probably different people will have different X values and different velocity achieving it so they will fall out of economy at different times. Which in reality will probably lead to random price changes - i.e. if all bread producers in the world decided to retire then probably price of bread will skyrocket even though money supply is fixed. And you who already retired with a plan should either chose something instead of bread or keep working more

But the main question is “will deflationary economy improve people’s desire to innovate and make progress and will make it easier of will it make things worse?”. Inflationary economy claims it does make things better (even if this is incorrect). Those who promote bitcoin and deflationary economy just say “fuck it, they print money, we don’t like it” instead of arguments and researches today unfortunately

Bitcoin was created as an act of protest of incompetent money management. And it does great job to make people more responsible if adopted. However, here we are, we have bitcoin working pretty good actually, but it doesn’t grow exponentially every month and even every 4 years recently. And some people who want more profits off of it claim we need more radical measures including govt overthow and removal of debt from economy (I have personally no idea how innovations could happen without debt and credit and would be very happy to read such researches instead of “FEW”)

Fuck, today no one even tries to answer the question “why the hell if in recent years money supply went crazy bitcoin haven’t even responded accordingly?!”. Instead bitcoin promoters say “THEY control its price by BLAH-BLAH-BLAH”


And again, I’m not saying inflation economy does fix this. No, the problem of people not contributing to humanity is handled very poorly there.

However, I have concerns that in deflationary economy it may become even worse and proponents of this economy don’t want to think about consequences and just blindly believe that bitcoin will fix it.

And from practical side it may sound cynical but thats a problem which must he considered. If one can afford bread and water till the end of life by doing nothing thanks to NGU - most likely most of the “bad” jobs won’t be filled - no one would like to clean shit in sewage because their heart wants it

P.S. this is a complex topic and recent “bitcoiners” easily mixup debates about “deflationary economy” and “absence of govts” which of course must be viewed completely separately


Well, first, I think people should work until they die. Just not from 9 to 5, but by producing value to humanity in the way they enjoy - teaching, making art, growing kids etc

Second, regarding why would people stop increasing their life standard when they have basic needs covered — thats what we see today — there are people every here and there who don’t want to increase their life standard and stay in the same place for entire life. They don’t quit bad habits, don’t start eat healthy food, they are not eager for knowledge etc. and today those people struggle, work 9to5 and blame THEM (some other things) in their problem. But those people are forced to work by the economy. And they feel bad because: 1) they are forced, 2) they don’t want to improve their life. And I believe if such ppl will have basic needs covered by NGU they will just seat idle

Billionaires are a good example btw. Yes, there are sole of them who keep working even though they have everything covered. But first, I believe some of them could do it subconsciously because they are afraid to become poor again. And second, look at their kids who are wealthy from the start - being able not to think about money at all doesn’t seem to make those people contributing to humanity in the best way they can, doesn’t make them want to innovate — they usually mostly buy drugs and showoff with their wealth. And bitcoin doesn’t fix this


>>> You cannot get wealthy hoarding and doing nothing.

But thats what many of modern bitcoiners want to believe in — “buy and hodl”


If you have any arguments would be great if you would share them. Today “bitcoiners” unfortunately mostly sound as NGU zealots :(


Everything has price. Some people have slightly different definitions of price


Woah, a whole study to figure out human kind is curious and often misbehave when they think no one sees? Cool, but why connecting it to laptops, repairs and software? 😂


So you assume that in the world where prices dont go up there are still ppl who want to risk and innovate. Who will try to fine products ppl want to spend money even though ppl stick to hoarding

This way those products must be of top quality (cancer cure) or essential (bread)

I really hope for that. But doubt a lot because our human nature is lazy and stupid usually. And I’m not really sure we are 100% ready for that


Small note here, everything will become more affordable during deflation if innovations/optimizations keep coming. If there are always appearing more efficient ways of manufacturing etc

If I earned X money and can afford bread and water till the end of my life and I don’t actually want to do anything except for watching the birds in the nature and there are 80% of ppl like me - then prices of bread and water will skyrocket and CPU, jets and smartphones will fall down but nobody still buys it


In my country govt does not care about sorting and waste. In theory there are laws but no one cares. We don’t even have yet containers of different colors. Businesses are free to do what they want with waste. Homeless are free to find something interesting there. No one cares because its very difficult and not economically interesting. Batteries of every kind and other things that must be utilized correctly end up in containers and later - on the edges of towns in endless waste graveyards which exist forever because they don’t decay. People living around have to deal with consequences (bad smell at minimum)

At the end of the day govt has to allocate funds to private companies to fix it. Because this problem is too big for people leaving around this swamp and too small (yet) for people living far enough

This is the reality of recycling and wastes sorting in a country where govt does not intervene. I really think dollar printing that happens tens of thousands of kilometers away has something to do with this

But I really hope you are right here, the only thing - we have to act very carefully since deflation standard is actually brand new in our life, and we can’t expect it will just fix all the staff without out help


*Thinking about phpBB *sigh*


As an example look at waste sorting and recycling. Its a very important thing in fact. But people don’t want to so this. And we need govt to force people to do at least something. And its extremely inefficient but at least something. Is it feasible to get there without govt stimulus as a human kind?


The problem bothering me with deflation is if humanity is ready for it? If prices go down and ppl hoard then only the most necessary goods and services will be bought and sold: food, utilities… maybe even hair cut will be mostly handled by yourself

I see such a world as rather good - instead of new iphones each year we could put more efforts into space research, cancer fighting and thats all

However, most of the people seem to be quite good with iphones, hollywood movies and new dresses

Are you sure the humanity wants deflation and not just a tiny minority of people are ready to sacrifice current lifestyle in favor or the greater good?


For 10 years a lot of Ukrainians thought the same things about rusians. Its better to learn on others errors and not on your own.

Its not only Orban is bad, its Hungarian govt decisions are bad. And govt is people how ridiculous it may sound to many


“Innovation” 😂😂😂


Don’t really understand what they are still doing in EU. They should be excluded and let to initiate rusia ass lickers alliance with Serbia


Yeah, bitcoin jokes are so stupid these days, looks like bitcoiners too


It seems to me that our modern happy and peaceful life prevents us from understanding how much we underestimate a human will to survive, eat and drink


nostr:npub1s5yq6wadwrxde4lhfs56gn64hwzuhnfa6r9mj476r5s4hkunzgzqrs6q7z this is what misinformation mean. And this is what I’m actually going to build on Nostr - tools for people to understand better who is spreading misinformation for self-marketing. Its disgusting.


Go fuck yourself and don’t use misinformation about Ukraine just because you idiot want some hype around your stupid person who nobody cares about.

Thats what I want to say to the author and people who spread those lies.


And what happens if some states decide not to starve?


Slavecoin


Imagine, you brought your car to the service and when next day you appear again they say they don’t know who you are and they’ve seen no car. And even their security cameras show yesterday there were only women customers

You had to check their reputation, sign a smart contract, make a blood spell etc. this is completely your fault. This is the world you live in?


Just curious, what do you do when you get ill, when your car gets broken, when your fridge stops? Do you study their inner-workings from the ground up?

Where exactly do you start: protons, atoms, molecules, chemistry, physics, school or university programs?

Or do you go find a person who knows what to do and by some reason believe they will not fool you? And even if they do, you are confident your government would protect you if its something serious?


I remember those days when people used “good time of the day”, because its far from morning for me :)

GM


Do you prefer shutting down your country’s military industrial complex when there are dictators acting however they want while people who are far away from them (for now) want to drink smoothies and think of something aristocratic?

Or do you think cutting down military industrial expenses will make dictators disappear ?


Unfortunately, lately I personally see more and more people believe this and similar without any reasoning just because they hope US collapse will pump bitcoin price


Thetr is at Saltivka (https://github.com/viktorvsk/saltivka/blob/c4f798e640d82a0020693ef9ccdd1150dc1e6b55/app/models/concerns/nostr/nip1.rb#L301C36-L301C36)

But there is no understanding in nostr atm how to standardize it (https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/772)


Don’t you find it weird that when internet was born, the world was local and developers tried to make internet global

Today when the world is global, developers try to make internet local?


Long story short, fines for driving are rather good. But if in your case there is really a place where its unavoidable to break rules - it has to be changed. And it doesn’t require a revolution to achieve :)


Government is people, even if its hard to believe :) police are people, doctors are people, killers are people, volunteers are people - just like me and you :) and people could be good or bad

Set of rules govts create (laws) - is a game


Lol, rusia propaganda playbook copypaste


Its not a mafia, its a game. You lost because its a complex game and complex games at scale can’t be 100% objectively equal and fair

You can change minor rules if they are too bad in this specific place. You can also try to stop some games. And sometimes it works. But the problem doesn’t magically disappear. Instead players who followed some rules (which are SOMETIMES bad) start following no rules, which are ALMOST ALWAYS bad. And the basic game theory comes into play - strongest/richest wins.


Well, at least 2-3 people I suppose then depending on tank model and how many crew members there are?

Also tank must be service, thats another person. Someone has to make particles for that tank and usually you want it to be a someone you trust

Something x10 more difficult goes for jet. x1000 more difficult goes for nuclears. Then more efficiency is gained when we combine infantry, tanks, planes, rockets…

Are we talking about armies? Armies are usually very bad at making money at open market, are we talking about taxes? Someone has to collect taxes. Are we talking about… governments?


No, I see very different things but I don’t see any sense discussing it with you, sorry


I don’t have any interest educating you on what wars and govts are really are and how history works

I will only finish with that I didn’t call you stupid. The way you try to promote bitcoin is stupid. And I (as one of the biggest bitcoin supporters) feel very sorry that I have to share this scene with people thinking such arguments are smart, funny and have at least some sense

Unfortunately, the most recent good promoters and great critics of bitcoin are lost in 2011 on bitcointalks. That was my point


Oh, nvm, don’t spend time answering, I can see that all your life is believing and promoting the US is the ultimate evil and nothing else matters


Yeah, unbelievable but not everybody was born as a native english speaker or being able to invest a huge amount of time into dedicated learning

You don’t imagine at all how it sounds for people who’s countries at war, do you?


God thats so stupid, did bitcoiners ended on bitcointalks?


>> Governments will eventually be just another past horror that people read about in history books 😊

When everyone owns a gun, who owns a tank?


Of what you?


Interesting how many actual bitcoin developers share that thought. Because thats not what makes you want to develop for imo


Misinformation is a global problem and terrorism is just one of the good examples. You just don’t understand it because it doesn’t worry you personally.

You look at those Elons and Vitaliks who offer 2 BTC if you send them 1 BTC and pass by laughing because you clearly understand you will never be caught to this fraud

The same goes for people in the US for example who are 100% sure that war will never be their problem and pass those topics laughing

You think that if its easy for you to distinguish real Elon and Vitalik from fake - its easy for other people too. And you just call them stupid when you can’t. And you would better get completely free and anarchic internet where you feel good and stupid people (who didn’t spend 10k hours on internet in their lifetime) - get abused

But for some reason when you get sick and go to doctor you actually expect them to have licenses from govts that they know what they are doing. You are confident when you enter HOSPITAL there won’t be fake doctors that you have to somehow distinguish (even though you know nothing about medicine since you didn’t spend your 10k hours there)

Or when your car breaks - it probably drives you mad when a mechanic charges you $1000 to fix a part that costs $10 just because he figured out you didn’t spend 10k hours in cars ans $1000 for you is ok

So do you expect people to invest 10k hours of education in every aspect of life? Or do you just want everyone to invest 10k hours on internet since you already did it and its convenient for you?

Again, the way many govts solve many problems is extremely inefficient. And it should be changed. But nowhere near it means that govts creates those problems. Those who think so are just insulted pussies


That is what you wrote. Probably you have assumed something else, but to make it more sound and viral omitted it idk

But it reads pretty insulting for those states which “go to war” because they have to

And todays sentiment is “any war is bad” and how ridiculous and unbelievable it sounds - but a lot of ppl take this claim even further and say “wars are sooo bad that one should better get enslaved and genocided than going to war”

So tbh such claims don’t help much


There are at least 2 states going to war in every case. Do you claim they all do it JUST to avoid telling the truth?


And I am very glad honestly that you don’t understand my points because you are blessed not to have been exposed to feel them on your personal example and I hope it will stay the same! 🤞🏻

I do believe though you (and others alike) would be able to understand it in future based on others awful experiences


Thats a challenging question. But avoiding it is not an option. And one can think otherwise only until their bad govt somehow protects them from violence. Its very tempting to theorize about various freedoms when you take freedom of violence as an axiom


Identify there is such a problem. Decide if community wants to solve it or not. Allow grants flow into this problem solving. Hope you don’t expect every required business feature in nostr will be developed by smart, honest and volunteering developers (its not how it works)

Only after its done start brainstorming solutions. For example, a user may chose from a list of moderators whos comments they want to read on each topic. But of course there could be infinite amount of solutions


There is 100% relevance for me. I’m living in a world where 10 years in a row neighboor terrorist state tries to destroy my country and my family. 2 latest years - with the amount of weapon types not seen EVER in history and their. And they unfortunately very successfully use misinformation in social media today. And it has DIRECT impact on my life and life of everyone in mu country.

And if you want to say that “there are equal rights to spread information” then yes. But citizens of my country have to make a daily choice - fight misinformation online (which is very important) or go into trenches to stop terrorists offline

And yeah, I read 1984 many times and trying to prevent it from happening personally


How many times in your life terrorists and terrorist states used misinformation against your country and your family?


I know its hard to believe, especially been in software development, know it by myself — but govts everyday protects millions of ppl from being dumb

They do it extremely inefficiently on internet and its annoying and needs to be changed. But it doesn’t mean this should not be done at all


So do I understand correctly your answer to my question is the following: you think nostr doesn’t need to address content moderation for its growth and you are personally fine with 2 sources of content all the clients currently provide:
1) posts of those you personally decided to follow and their follows
2) unmoderated global feed with some sort of simple search potentially filled with spam and misinformation

Correct?


And of course nostr today does not have misinformation problem because relatively no one uses it


Its a protocol, yes, and it needs tools. Nobody uses http, pop and imap, everybody use gmail and facebook

And those tools must have options to fight with misinformation. Want tools for terrorist? Ok, go build it and have plans to fight with govts

My question is whether nostr community has any tools for good ppl in mind or it blindly believes that no tools will work better than govt regulations?


I’m saying that misinformation is actually a real and a big problem. It is difficult to fight with though. And the ways govts fight with it are often times inadequate (as very many things govts do very inefficiently i.e. money management)

But the fact govts handle this problem bad doesn’t mean the problem doesn’t exist. And highly unlikely that if instead not handle the problem at all things to become net positive.

I’m developing for nostr. And I know on my own unfortunately, how bad misinformation in social media is in real life. And claims like “let your enemies speak” only make me less want to help nostr live. Because I know on my own awful example what happens “when your enemy speaks” saying 1000% lies

Nostr needs to provide censorship resistance to real people with good intentions. But at the same tome nostr needs to find the ways to address problems of people with bad intentions playing their own game. And not handling it at all - is not a viable solution.


So you see those letters as a pure attack on social media without it being a fix to some problem correct? And if yes, I assume, you think those letters addressed purely to for one single reason - for govt control social media as they like against humanity, plebs, peoples, nations etc, correct? Those letters pursue only the interests of some THEM? WEF, Elites, Reptiloids etc right? Thats how you see “those letters”?


So you think those letters have no background at all and just made to make Elon’s and his X users life more complicated? Those letters are not trying to fix something, even if in a very inefficient way?

And yeah, be sure, if nostr adopts, it will get the same letters - clients may be deleted from app stores, or at least requested to. Relay operators will get such letters too


No, there are much more responsibility in meat space, even self-responsibility, and much less possibility to make noise that distracts from real problems


What device? Last time I checked it was 5 years old used samsung priced as almost new iphone, has anything changed since then?


Nostr doesn’t fix it in any way no except for accepting tons of spam of different types. And as we know, spam (and misinformation) is usually used as a weapon and not as a shield

Or are there any work done in nostr in order not to only allow all types of spam to be present but also different mechanics to navigate this spam and being able to make your own, better conclusions ?


Well there are 100 bananas in the supermarket and ~10 millions notes in nostr


I’d say it looks interesting but not promising. Because it does not solve any problem today nor adds any value (today)

There are plenty of platforms where you could host your SPA for free, with great guarantees, fast servers and CDNs, nostr doesn’t provide any of those

Censorship resistant SPA? There is no problem like that today


There are 2 easy steps to start with:

1) figure out in modern global world there is no neutrality. One who stays neutral on the problem helps aggressor. You always have to pick a side. But its ok to say “I don’t know” surprisingly. “I don’t know anything about Israel and Palestine / rusia and Ukraine / Armenia and Azerbaijan”, its really ok to say “I live thousands of miles away, never heard about it, I don’t have opinion, I have my own problems”

2) once a good person avoids neutrality claims they have also understand that probably ALWAYS there is an aggressor and a victim. There are no longer exist tribes who fight centuries because of the woman. There are always rules/laws that were broken. And sometimes it could be difficult to figure out. But once a good person avoids “neutrality” position, they should also avoid redirection of responsibility saying “well its difficult, so surely its because of THEM” and this mysterious THEY could be any evil that can’t be describes in words: US, communists, aliens, FED etc

So answering the question - good people should pick a side and act (by spreading a word, sending money or with time and skills) or just be quite saying “Sorry I don’t know, I don’t have time to figure out, I have family to feed”

Good people can’t say “I’m pro peace”, “I’m against the war”, “its because of US”, “its because of fiat, bitcoin fixes this” - all those statements help aggressors of any kind to feel comfortable


Damn, “bitcoiners” and “freedom fighters” are so dumb this days, its scaring. Interesting if its a normal state of things or such an attack on bitcoin and freedom?


Because rusia is a terrorist state of course. And its only associated with north korea, iran and hamas today


It looks like a winner move


It takes good people to do nothing for bad people to win


The way how Ukraine war is going opened this pandora box and allowed for this, wait more while prosperous peace keepers weighing is it too aggressive to protect yourself with weapon


I once read all possible software was running on 640K and what do we have today, node hello world 1GB?!


The more I use it the more I understand its just a temporary hype. And I’m working on AI/ML solutions right now


But hottest portable gaming station != mainstream desktop unfortunately


Lol such a stupid claim


Elon Musk makes fun of Ukrainian president.

Elon doesn’t want to think that for 19 months entire country is targeted by missiles and rockets, thousands of civilians die, ecocide happens, genocide happens

Elon doesn’t want to think that his country forced Ukraine to give away their world biggest nuclear arsenal because his country bet on “rusia is more stable than Ukraine” — and obviously lost

Elon doesn’t want to think 30 years ago his country signed papers to protect Ukraine and today against this very war it seeks how to avoid those papers because obviously normal people do not like wars

But Elon wants to meme. Don’t be like Elon even if you hate US and think “US foe is my friend”. Even if you hate US and its convenient for you to think all world troubles are because of US.

#grownostr #ukraine https://image.nostr.build/754d6a329f25194bbd7031ae4b0e7f79501e3f6f8072b4b7a993628d0dade5ba.jpg https://image.nostr.build/f090996dc128879859a9df9888436ad99234b6089360df1388d6e1fd2f709cc1.jpg https://image.nostr.build/d27b89afffd66edbdb11db037ca20a9e69f1e65f842257bc840854927c47bdb7.jpg https://image.nostr.build/b150dfebae9ad029448335338c540c97a9fcae3c8fae92901f4c17042c4ca36e.jpg


Title “senior software developer” doesn’t mean anything today.

Business wants a lot of simple software products.

Business doesn’t want to pay for complex engineering solutions.

Definitions of a “true engineer” changed a lot and those who acquired it in the past don’t like it — it’s a very good thing today our software doesn’t have to deal with 250 different driver. Its a good thing today “cross browser compatibility” almost does not exist.

It does not mean an engineer who knows how to fix cross browser issues is senior and one who believes browsers mostly interoperable — is not.


So since such PoC exist today it means there is no alternative in python for Ruby Bundler?


And in general, what I’m trying to achieve here is not anything related to rusia, Ukraine or US I just want people stop using stupid and senseless arguments to defend and promote bitcoin


Mongolia used to rule the most part of the world, why not blame it in world problems? It did rape half of the world population at some point

Sp if US does not impose USD by force today you would better not use this argument. Because England also exists today, has its currency which is relatively good today and it imposed it by military force to much more worse extent than US could imagine

rusia is an argument here because if you call US actions today a “military force imposed something” I want to know how you call rusia genocide.

But I see you call it US proxy war and you’ve never been to Ukraine nor rusia right?


The point is US today DOES NOT impose dollar by military force. You can claim it does so by economic, intel, secret operations and other non-military activities, that can be discussed as another topic

But US does not apply military force today, thats a fact. Can you argue against?

By your logic and according to your image Germany and Japan are occupied by US after WW2 and are now forced to be slaves by military bases in their countries. And what then, rusia brings piece to Ukraine now?


You still can’t answer the most basic question that author claims without arguments — how does US or dollar or NATO or whatever imposes dollar by military force TODAY? Which countries do they… I don’t know, invade? TODAY?


Most of the time clowns are those who make loud claims but don’t have any arguments


There are a
Lot of military bases of different countries around the world — do they all impose their currencies by force then?

How exactly those US (btw, only US not NATO?) use force to make people use dollar?

And when will Salvador will be “forced” to reject bitcoin then? Or maybe El Salvador is just THEIR experiment and THEY control both El Salvador and bitcoin?


How does dollar get imposed by force today? And lets not discuss something that took place 20, 50 or 100 years ago. How dollar imposed by force TODAY?

If you mean that “US participating in collective defense with allies to enable free and safe business” is “by force” then how do you call rusia committing genocide in real-time TODAY? and for 30 years non stop. And they by the way can impose their empire currency even on occupied territories in some cases

So this argument is completely pointless. Its bad protecting bitcoin by simply attacking dollar and everyone behind it


Is this a client where users can’t choose their own relays to use?


Could you please elaborate on “the protocol to check” ?


Glad to be a part of nostr and taking part in this hackathon, will join the next one too :)


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Yes its a must have feature. If you want to build pseudo anonymous network you should not automatically disclose your credentials

P.S. I’m still looking for client which supports NIP-42, iris.to didn’t work for me - https://github.com/irislib/iris-messenger/issues/430


Ukraine is mentioned for hype purposes only right?


The best way to protect your private keys today is to have a client which:

1. Has code in open source
2. Has this code audited (regularly or audited once but you use fixed version without updates)
3. Deliver this code on your own to your device or use someones code deployed to a store (like damus) BUT then it MUST support reproducible builds (very difficult especially for iOS), details: https://core.telegram.org/reproducible-builds

Otherwise you can only trust developers, their best and honest motives and their advanced security measures

P.S. even in this case you actually trust (at minimum) Intel/AMD/Apple to not use their backdoors in hardware against you


How is ZBD different from any other client where you input your private key instead of on-demand air-gapped signing from offline device?

For example, how can you be sure that Damus does not send your private keys directly to its own servers? Yes, you see source code on github (which you won’t audit ever) but you have no way to check that app on your iphone was buily using this source


Btw, for a long time I’m looking at https://ascrono.com/products/macbook-pro-vertical-dock-m1-16inch (or similar) and still thinking could it worth it

Haven’t you ever tried something alike by any chance?:)


Mine is pretty old. i’m sure soon enough new ones will appear to cover such sizes and they will still cost around $2-$3

Different people different priorities, but I buy Apple to save money and it works great for a decade or so. I can’t justify paying $90 for a laptop stand in 2023 even though I buy much more expensive devices

Maybe I just have different use-cases and/or habits but I think its important to share with others that its not a necessity to buy an overpriced goods just because you are using Apple :)


I had different pads in my lifetime and none of them worked. Ended up with this one for around $10 with a super nice case that does 90% pf the job.

Regarding Cleanshot I can’t imagine what group is it aimed for. For devs standard screenshot is more than enough

For designers and creators they know how to use much powerful tools. Also screenshotting does not sound like a task for $2 per month https://image.nostr.build/66ef163782df735e8fcd513d8c1aeef1ee084c862ddb23516f717c7c1fed0644.jpg


Yes thats absurd to praise a rusian guy who is 100% pootins asset just because 10 years ago sone useless shit against USA


Would it be as breaking if pootin or Kim Jong Un decided to share their opinion on Nostr at Nostrasia (would be really big for Nostr)?

Keep in mind, they are on the same boat with Snowden


Whats so breaking in the fact that you want to rusify nostr conference in Asia? However… agree, its breaking it :)


Lol, the truth is coming and NYT when its only in favour of rusian bots? 😂


Great movie ☺


Fantastic! Any plans how you would like to use it?


Can you imagine a (high school) party of 50 ppl where everything is managed by app and no responsible person?


Kyiv*


Hello Saltivka! https://github.com/viktorvsk/saltivka


How often do you change your android phones? I use 2018 iPhone and it feels the same as 2022 iPhone if you are not a camera guy. But Samsung Android from 2019 already feels like a brick.

5 years usually a minimum you can use your iPhone. And then you can even sell it for a meaningful amount of cash easily or use it like a backup phone for next 5 years

The most solid iPhone advantage. At some point I’ve tired of reading new phones specs each year


On nostr, could I know friends of friends of friends of my friends without exposing them to everybody else?

Say, I have my contacts, I post them encrypted and I share decryption to those of my friends I want. They can reshare further including their contacts etc

So that eventually every user can have a copy of friends up to any degree sitting publicly in nostr but only limited (at least partially) subset of people could decrypt them?