#Bitcoin

https://youtu.be/oksraL7wN6Q


THIS IS A BIG ONE FAM.

SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THEIR TEAM DURING DEVELOPMENT. PRIORITIES ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACES. FOCUSED AND DELIBERATE.

https://proton.me/blog/proton-wallet-launch


AWESOME. Proton Mail & VPN are top-tier.

This appears to make sending bitcoin as easy as sending an email... While being self-custodial. Love to see it.


If there was ever a time to use deep fake video of a POTUS, right now is the perfect time for them to do it.

Half the country is screaming #WheresJoe while his handlers have the technology now for the first time in history to beleivably pull it off. He wouldn't have to say much, maybe even just wave.


I don't know anyone in the US that would use it anymore for anything but emergency.  Save yourself about 80% and go to Thailand or some other country with a great medical system that happens to not be screwed over by evil law.

I had a minor back surgery & some dental work in Bangkok a decade ago (Samitavej Hospital) & there were pianos in the plush lobby with drinks served to those waiting... The doctors got trained at Harvard and Oxford... Way nicer than US hospitals.

Yet the doctors there will be happy to tell you that they can make more practicing in Thailand than they can in the US charging 500% to 1000% more here! US-required malpractice insurance alone costs way more than a mortgage, for instance.

Seriously, we desperately need a complete tear-down and rebuild of the US medical system.


As an anarchist I still appreciate bitcoin supporters in the government which rules over me because I'd rather be comfortably using bitcoin than risk going to jail or confiscation each time I make a TX.


Then this is really going to blow your mind:

https://fbce.io/btc-circular-economies


I don't need one to go around in a circle... Has anyone done one of these that can go a longer distance, like around a factory floor? And preferably one that can hold some weight?


Wow, I thought only the Japanese used the swastika symbol outside of Nazism. What does it mean in Indonesia?


I've felt this way for a while too. -Particularly because likes still exist in most clients.

If we remove likes from nostr & basically force people to zap then it'll scare the noobs and sat-pinchers away though, so I'd say let's keep likes where they are and move zaps away from the reaction bar completely... Maybe to a drop-down menu or when clicking on the post...


Oh man, how can KYC & AML laws survive this going mainstream...


Bitcoiners are obviously weird too. None of what you said is "against bitcoin ethos" but there does happen to be a high correlation among the non-binary & neurodiverse with socialism.

It would be pretty ignorant to claim that socialism is within the ethos of bitcoin. Bitcoin's very nature is to destroy it.


Only the girls can see the boy's nutsacks. Unless the guy is gay, so I hear.


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So lemme get this straight: I can attach a domain to it so the non-purple-pilled can link directly to my nostr feed, displayed all on a nice website layout served up by the Nostr network?

& there's no cost for this?


OMG... Does he, in fact, smell like tacos?

I sincerely hope senior Trejo is getting a cut of this action, it's just too funny to go nowhere...


Sure, provide the game for free but charge sats for something inside the game from your storefront in there. Skins/weapons/whatever: Simply become a merchant.


Sorry about the delay, yesterday was a madhouse around here.

I tried to watch your video but honestly my eyes just kept glazing over from all his Jargon. FEers are going to have to make their explanations more palatable if they want to be heard.

> A 24 hour sun in Antarctica would be a big problem for FE.

I've been to Juneau, Alaska where the sun was only down for about 2 hours at night, at the height of summer, and locals there say they've been up to Barrow where there is literally no nighttime between May & August! Like this chart says: https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/@5880054

As you know, globe earth easily explains that phenomenon and says the opposite is happening in Antartica. How could that be true with FE?

> there would be no reason to edit and lie about the footage.

I have no idea which footage you're talking about, but I'm quite sure footage of the midnight sun is available from thousands of sources over many decades.

Your Eratosthenes meme is funny, but that source of light obviously isn't 94 million miles away, like the sun is. Those shadows would be very similar if done with sunlight.

A proper Eratosthenes experiment is very easy to do yourself, like this highschool teacher did on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_P0kbGsMrY

He saw the obvious angle change only 300 kilometers away. Maybe this would be an easy experiment for you to try yourself to reproduce.

It's funny that you said "Private citizens cannot explore the outer regions, only guided tours are allowed" because the number of tours to Anatartica, both cruises around and hikes to the mountains and polar station are becoming more and more common. Why would they take thousands of normies a year to a place that they are trying to hide?

I've been following a Youtube Travel volgger for years before she climbed Antartica's highest mountain. Eva Zu Beck did plenty of vlog episodes down there and she was an absolute nobody, without 1/10th the YT following she has today. This page should have all those Antartica videos: https://www.youtube.com/@evazubeck/search?query=Antartica

Are you suggesting that's not Antartica? Or that this polish chick who lives in her car is in on the conspiracy? Seems like it has to be one or the other.


You left out Oprah's other habits, like helping pedophiles get children and burning down cities to steal their real estate...


I've been thinking the exact same thing, but I have to admit the uncensorable usefulness of nostr to freedom & political activists is off-the-charts obvious. I'd be surprised if it doesn't catch on as a social media where all 'dangerous talk' is done. That ain't peanuts.


Hmm... Can we get Wikileaks to become Nostr-native by then?


I have to give you credit, you've studied down this rabbit hole so far that you make convincing arguments. I just want to give up at this point and let you suffer the consequences of all that misdirection from the truth, but there are so many other fun phenomena that prove the world is a globe that I just can't seem to stop thinking about them...

Like how about the way Eratosthenes calculated the earth's size waaaay back in 240 BC by measuring how shadows fell at different latitudes? Why are shadow lengths different if we're on a FE?

Or how about the simple way nighttime works? My family in Bangkok often sees the sun rise as I see it set and wouldn't the easiest way to cast that huge shadow be us living on a globe?

Or network propagation times? We can all measure distances around the planet in milliseconds by using a simple ping command... And no one seems to notice any pings that take longer than pinging the far side of the globe from themselves.

One thing you were right about though, I don't have a firm grasp on your model of FE. I know some think it's a simple disc & there is a huge boundary wall in Antartica instead of a pole. Others think it goes on forever. Some believe space exists and others don't. Some think other planets are spheres and only we don't have one. What exactly is your chosen model?


Talk
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Keep it super generic but try for the meaning of 'free speech' as much as possible.


>  So there are pictures which shows us seeing further than we should be able to, and your response is nahuh?

No, my response to that particular claim would be:

A. How do we know how far that ship really was?
B. How do we know the video wasn't doctored?
C. Look at those waves!  They lift your ship up and down but if the ship was really as big as it looks, they'd just be lapping upon the hull. That ship simply can't be what & where it appears to be, and that should be obvious.

> Surface tension on a water droplet isn't curvature dude

You didn't specify what the force creating the curve was. Going forward I'll assume you mean gravity-specific curvature.

Of course that brings me to one of the root reasons I strongly believe that everything large in the solar system is a sphere... The explanation of mass as a basis for gravity simply makes tons of sense. It's easy to conceive mass clumping together in the weightless vacuum of space and creating objects like planets. It's not so easy to conceive a bigass flat disk that somehow has mass pointed downwards. What's causing gravity to flow in that direction? It doesn't make any sense. Nor do orbits, the fact that water balls up when dropped, and a thousands other observed phenomena!

So many mathematical formulas wouldn't work either, like good ol' e=mc^2. We literally would be set back to the absolute stone ages if flat earthers' ideas of how the universe worked were accepted in mathematics. Suddenly, nothing would work anymore as you change the formulas to reflect that 'reality.'

> You claimed the flight goes over Antarctica, which it objectively doesn't

Dude, you realize that weather causes pilots to change all flightpaths drastically, right? Check again some other time. I've seen a different path take that same flight very close to the pole.

> you ignored my question about how you establish airspeed vs ground speed

No, I told you why that line of reasoning is stupid. Stop trying to measure apples to oranges when you should be thinking about how many miles away the orchards are.

> now you're demonstrating that you don't even know tail winds exist

Lol, same again. A cross-pacific flight gains or loses about 2 hours depending on the direction... So a 1 hours average in, let's say, a 7,000 mile flight path is simply not enough to account for the massive, massive, MASSIVE distances (100,000 miles?!?) that flights around the south pole would take in a flat earth!

Modern airlines simply do not have the fuel capacity to get anywhere near it if you flatten the globe. Tailwind arguments are just bikeshedding.

> Ah yes, political boundaries. I didn't realize the sun subscribes to those

Oh boy. You were the one that brought up the lack of time zones that exist in the south. No one brought up Lattitudes, just time zones, which are inherently political boundaries.

> 1 hour sections would necessitate that they are all equal, above and below the equator

Those are lattitude lines. Politicians didn't care for them very much.

>  yet they somehow have to reduce the number of timezones in exactly the way that would be expected on a plane.

I have no idea what you're referring to here.

> can you define gravity in your own model? Can you elaborate on the fine tuning problem? How about the anisotropic measurements of the CMBR, how do you reconcile those? What about the fact that the tychonian model has less epicycles

Typical unnecessary technobabble employed only when you're being backed into a corner. There is no good reason to use these words in this context.

In Florence there is a great museum to Galileo showcasing things like his telescope and all kinds of gravity experiments he conducted. I think they said for every experiment on display there were 50 more back in storage. When I was in my late 20's I went backpacking around europe and spent a few weeks in Florence, absolutely in love with that museum and the town. I'll never forget all the different ways he found to measure & affect a ball rolling down a track. That was true science.

I honestly don't know what half the words you just used mean but I do feel I understand gravity better than most after seeing those experiments. A bunch of wooden tracks and metal balls that tell us plenty about the nature of this existence of ours.

Calibrate it then point it at Jupiter. Now note the claimed distance. Now, without refocusing, send your telescope to the moon. Now, explain to me how it's in focus.

Easy. Focal points in a telescope are not linear, they are exponential.

That means it takes less turning of the knob to focus from the moon to jupiter than it does from someone standing 10 feet away to someone 100 feet away.  I find myself refocusing wildly between all terrestrial objects but objects inside the solar system are pretty much the same focal distance, and interstellar objects are just pinpricks of light anyway so it's impossible to say how much you need to refocus for those.


Remind me again who it was that delivered video of US helicopters mowing down crowds of innocents?  Was that the JBS or some militia group? I forget...


A guy going by the name of "Freedom Tech" has never heard of Wikileaks?


> Let me guess, you were unsuccessful in finding photos of that pesky curve?

Of course I can't find photos of something that you think should exist but does not. What a silly concept.

> Water doesn't curve

Damn, drops of water and waves must not exist then. I've been so blind!

>  You can literally go and verify those sources and calculations yourself.

That's my line.

> this is how it always goes. First it was bouncing lasers off the moon, then you moved the next thing

This is what must happen when you refuse to accept the evidence for the previous thing. Either that or we stop talking.

> Now you're rehashing the fabled flights

That's it? Your entire rebuttal to the subject of those flights that absolutely do exist is simply smearing them as "fabled?"

If they're mere fables then the millions of people that flew them must be in on the conspiracy?

> Can you tell me how you verify ground speed over water when you're in a plane?

You just divide the miles by the time. Each jet has it's own top speed rating. None of those commercial jets have one fast enough to make up the difference of an extra 10,000 miles or whatever it would take to make the antarctic flight on a flat earth.

>  it's just a coincidence that there are not an equal amount of times zone in the north and south

Why in the world would the southern hemisphere need an equal amount??? No one lives down there! Time zones are a political boundary and there are far fewer countries in the southern hemisphere.

> Do you have any exclusive evidence the earth moves around the sun?

Nah, Galileo made some great points and I've never heard them properly rebutted. What I've observed of the nature of the solar system (and yes I have a nice telescope) lines up perfectly with Galileo's model.


I see we just aren't getting anywhere because we don't trust each other's sources. Fine. How about we trust the commercial viability of an entire pair of flights that fly right over the south pole daily, each way, and has been doing so for decades?

Qantas QF 64 & it's return are daily flights that couldn't possibly be commerically viable if they flew over a flat earth. No matter if you beleive that the south pole is a perimeter wall or not, with no globe the huge distance between Sydney & Johannesburg would require more fuel than you could fill up the entire inside of the plane with!

Have any flat earthers explained (credibly) how the hundreds of people each day that take that flight were not really going over antartica like they thought they were, and didn't really arrive just a few hours (instead of days) like their tickets said they did?

For that matter, a flat earth would have flights over the north pole, like JL41 from Tokyo to London, go a lot faster than the curved path that they say they take. What are those flights doing up there for so long? Circling iceburgs to fool us all about the nature of the planet instead of commercially competing against rival flights?


The video shows nothing like what I'm talking about, only a few waves lapping the tiniest bit of the bottom.

The big ship in this video is like what I'm talking about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UySV0UeGfjU

That's the top 1/3rd of a ship.

I saw huge cargo ships with their hulls clearly visible and then hours later as they move out you can just see the cargo containers and then eventually just the very top level of containers as they disappear 10-15 miles away. (On a clear day.)

I saw the same effect in Bangkok and Oslo as well, very different conditions.

As for the laser tests, I've seen them done myself and they definitely get blocked. Period.


Now how do we get him active on Nostr?


> "You can recreate the effect you are talking about over a small body of water"

Um, no, you can't. If there's no curvature, then there's no hiding the bottom of the boat before the top. It's just that simple. I see nothing in your video that is evidence otherwise. (Not to mention the scale would be wrong.)

I can't shift any goalposts on a single claim. A claim that I am confident making, by the way, because I used to live near Long Beach and saw ships pulling out of LA's largest harbor daily. They always went 'over a hill' on the horizon, and never, ever, just kept shrinking until gone.

I won't try to 'steel man flat earth and geocentric positions.' It's not worth my time... But I can stand by a statement I've made and encourage you to verify, not trust, like I would to any would-be bitcoiner.


Can't we all just agree that slowly feeding him into a chipper-shredder, feet first, is the only just way to deal with him while keeping taxpayer funding low?


Until the day all the powerful organizations are disbanded, that's a sure way to put him back where he is now.


That depends greatly on what he had to sign to stay free.


Except that you can test for yourself how the universe works, and you haven't.

Are you anywhere near a port or busy beach town? It's SUPER easy to see what Columbus saw with boats disappearing bottom-first over the horizon as they travel away.

How does a geocentric world model explain boats looking like they are sinking rather than just getting smaller as they move away from a port?


Ah, good. It sounded kinda like you though arresting was too harsh. ;)

The problem with your plan is that most of the world is clueless. So few would even show up to mock him. :( Meanwhile there would be plenty of his loyal toadies (like the WEF & WHO) who are trying to free him.

Unfortunately, people like this need to be unalived before they are rescued from justice.


If we're going to be civil about it, yes.

What he deserves is a lynch mob to draw & quarter him without any due process.


Oh boy have you fallen in with a bunch of liars seeking attention. I don't know what to tell you bro, those tests do show a curved planet and these people are lying about the results they got.

There's only one way you'll ever know for yourself if they are liars though; and that's by doing the tests yourself. Only you have the power to find out if the world is flat, and if space exists or not.

It's good that you keep an open mind to conspiracies in this day and age, otherwise you wouldn't have found bitcoin and become far more wealthy than you would have otherwise... But as the old adage goes, 'be careful not to open your mind too much lest your brain roll out of your ear.'

In bitcoiner-ese that is  better stated: "Don't trust, verify."


You're hearing what you want to hear with that "evidence." It doesn't disprove a thing that I said... Not even close. It just shows that in 1962 a MASER (microwaves) would reflect off the moon. Whoop whoop.

I know scientists who have done the lunar laser bounce themselves. In our modern times. They used a photometer, like photographers use, to count the amount of photos coming back from the moon.

When their beam wobbles a micromillimeter to the left of right of the mirror,  they got zero photons back. But directly on it gets a measurable trickle. Regular ol' light.

Today you can buy lasers yourself that are far more powerful than they had in the apollo era. $200 can get you 2 Giga watts(!) of wood-burning laser that would be great to bounce off the moon yourself and see hit your photometer. I double-dog dare you.


Nah, here's where you're jumping the shark. Govt agencies have nearly infinite reasons to lie. Take the number of reasons you can think of and multiply that by every last person who works for the government and you're starting to get the idea of how many lies they make up or try to hide daily. It's their full time job. That's the only way they gain power and hide their immoral actions.

So no, releasing faked footage of activities they did doesn't mean "space is fake." That's a huge, huge mental jump. What it means is that there are things that they didn't want you to see. Or specifically around the Apollo missions, there are things they didn't want Russia to see.

If you want to prove to yourself that man has been to the moon, get a laser and bounce it off the mirror they left on moon for yourself. Plenty of nerds have done so already, like these: https://wtop.com/science/2019/07/the-experiment-still-running-on-the-moon-and-tv-re-runs-50-years-later/

If you don't want to prove it to yourself and blindly believe that the lies govt tells are so grandiose that every scientist on the planet must be wrong about the basics of how the universe works then I'd say you're more a part of the problem than of the solution.


Awesome. Let me know how you are enjoying it when you've finished Season 1. (If you can call these 10-epsode runs 'seasons' anymore.)


Man, what a blast from the past... I still remember waaaaay back in 2012/2013 when half the bitcoin community was constantly talking about how to use bitcoin payments in pay-for-wifi-service that we could all install on a small router appliance and place in malls and starbucks to generate an income with. We eventually learned about the issues making that impractical, but that didn't stop every shitcoin under the sun from marketing their coin as the one to offer paid wifi hotspots.

What exactly has Nodogsplash solved to make this practical finally?


It's not enough to "Defund" these rougue organizations... We must fund their assasins.


The thing about woke movies & series is that they are very director-dependent. Look at the Star Wars franchise since it got disneyfied. Rouge One, perhaps the best movie of the whole franchise was made and nobody hates the Mandalorian series... But Some of the new stuff is truly awful. You just gotta know which ones.

Give Star Trek: Strange New Worlds a chance. I'm actually loving it, despite it being a spin-off of the horrible franchise I just told you to avoid.


Username doesn't check out. ;)

I hate this woke-ass trend too. It's gotta end sometime.

Oh yeah, and stay TF away from Star Trek Diversity. (Discovery) It's the mother of all woke series.


BT devving could pay out if someone clever came up with the right incentive model in their client...


He talked about that here:

https://gist.github.com/callebtc/67da3f586ef273df80bf679e464bc3f3#offline-ecash


I've literally never met anyone who is using bluesky, nor have I even heard of activitypub. Is that like a bar where they do arts & crafts?

These aren't serious competitors, and even if they were, the serious privacy advocates are all working on Nostr, so it's the only one that activists are going to use.

...And the more authoritarian govts become, the more everyone becomes an activist.


Yep, it's an authoritarian shithole everywhere now. (But I can argue that in the US it really started when our own govt shot JFK.)


Like with bitcoin adoption, I see nostr adoption as slow going but assured because there will always be people out there that desperately need an uncensorable speech platform.

Bitcoin will make it all the way to a global money used by everyone someday because of the network effects of money. They won't have a choice. However Nostr's future isn't as assured. Like you said the average person isn't likely to worry about being banned, and payments over social isn't as appealing to them as we like to think it is.

But Nostr, like Linux, has that awesome usefulness in solving techie problems behind the scenes that will keep it growing regardless, even if the mainstream keeps using their microsoft and apple products forever.  I think we need to be prepared to accept this future for it.


Can't tell where exactly you've gone wrong here... Are you calling cashu tokens altcoins? Or are you saying that bitcoin is becoming too complex for people to use anymore?


Damn, good show, man!

This looks like we're close to a perfect bitcoin wallet finally... One that few critics will find fault with. (Just have to build the exchanges & abstract away a few things like mint selection first.)

What else am I missing that this thing can't do yet but still needs for full mainstream adoption?


It's about damn time someone wrote a NIP for torrent incentivization! Countless projects in the past tried and failed to use some kind of shitcoin for torrent seeding... Even a few on-chain bitcoin projects like Frostwire were attempted, back in the days when fees were always zero sats.

Nostr as a comms channel beside zaps as a monetary incentive finally fulfills the promise of torrenting we all wanted since around the year 2000.


Rachel's boyfriend from "Friends," obvious.


Well no clients are using any form of key revocation as far as I can tell. Maybe key-control ID management would be better done on a new layer above (or below?) Nostr.


I don't think using the world "clown world" is helping anything. It makes these disgustingly brutal acts seem too jocular.

We left clown world around covid hit. We live in a complete authoritarian dystopian shithole world now.


That's so bold that I won't even make a joke about your penis size.
Followed.


Do your clients both use the same relay list?


People mean 2 different things when they refer to their social 'accounts.'

1. Their identity, specifically the credentials, but also the settings of the attached environment. (i.e. retaining their mute list & dark mode.) We can simply refer to this as our "npubs" or the less-geeky "nostr number."

2. Their presence, which includes their followers but is really the idea of themselves that they've marketed to the world. This is the part they really don't want stolen, and they could care less if it is protected by their identity. I don't think referring to this as part of your npub does is good enough... Once we have revocable npubs it literally doesn't fit anymore.

So far we've only referred to the latter as an 'account', but it does deserve a name of its' own. Perhaps something like their 'social soul' or the more obvious 'social presence.'


TOR is the best they have in that scenario but would you literally bet your life on it? They need Nostr to do more.


Nostr Wallet Connect - Calle writes a lot about it here.


The two tools often overlap... Speech in oppressive countries isn't ever free.


These would be awesome options on some kind of key management client. Something that (at the time of posting) allows you to choose your npub and revoke compromised npubs.


Key control is something that has many solutions but none agreed on yet... One approach would be for an individual software to manage all your keys... Offering a Revoke function.

Maybe bitcoin wallets could offer this add-on. They are key management software at heart, afterall.


We would have to take more responsibility for our own protection/enforcement, at least initially. So when a society first transitions to anarchy it would be hard on retirees/idiots, etc. Not impossible though.

However, there are already some great writings about how we could form a fully decentralized legal system and how regular folk could simply subscribe to an "Assurance Agency" to protect them from most problems in life. (From a mugging to foreign invaders) It's a multi-prong full solution & a whole new way of structuring society. Worth looking into if you're curious.


Make privacy even better, & transparently so.

I don't think hardly anyone knows exactly where Nostr is completely private and where it's sorta private. It may be the best private communications network mankind has ever made, but it seems there has been zero public education on what it's limits are.

At the very least I'd like to see apps give you a link at the time of posting explaining exactly what these limits are... So you know if the fedcoats are going to show up at your door or not when you say something risky, for instance.


Are there really people on Nostr that want to let Google back up all their nostr notes?

It's great to see experimentation, of course, but this feels like a Werewolf experimenting in silver bullets...


Engineers who have worked on larger projects like video codecs, mainframes, or the web itself all see protocols like bitcoin is something that must be scaled in layers. The nature of Blockchains in general is to fight against scaling so bitcoin's a natural fit.

I realize satoshi never sold anyone on the idea of waiting a couple of decades and using some other software that only stores value on his software, but that's what is practical and likely to work. We've gotten used to it (bitcoiners) and normies won't have to think about it when the wallets on layers 2 & 3 are finally where they should be. They'll just work and fees will be minimal.


You must me new around here.

Any talk about a blocksize Increase is full-on insurrectionist talk.

We're more likely to make it smaller, but hopefully there are no more changes.


Roger Ver Arrested in Spain for $50m tax evasion charges. Awaits extradition to US:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/early-bitcoin-investor-charged-tax-fraud

Don't like the guy but it's not the punishment he deserves.


Now you can share your Public Spreadsheets!

https://sheetstr.amethyst.social/?author=460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c&id=Amethyst%20Feature%20Request%20Counts


The bitcoin whitepaper is literally the 1st thing everyone should read in this space: http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

Then there are millions of great essays and youtube vids to choose from, it's quite overwhelming. I suggest skipping most of it and picking up the book by Saifedean Ammous called "The Bitcoin Standard." It's by far the best thing to read in terms of understanding bitcoin's potential, past, present and future.

If you find yourself searching on Youtube, there are two things to specifically avoid: Videos where they talk about "Crypto" (as opposed to bitcoin) and videos where the guy on the image has his mouth open. You will always go wrong with those two types of video.

Hope that helps!


Aliens, bro. Aliens.


You do realize that making us Android users, who still have no idea when we can download your entire product, drool excessively like this is cruel & might be against some Geneva conventions.


Taking him down to El Salvador to see the volcano mining up close, eh?


OTOH, they certainly weren't commies.  Gen Z is shaping up to become total commie fodder and that probably won't end too well.


GM/PV Nostr frens!

Today the privacy wars scale up with another self-censorship, this time from my favorite privacy wallet, Wasabi!

https://blog.wasabiwallet.io/zksnacks-now-blocking-u-s-residents-and-citizens

The good news here is that this wallet bakes in TOR usage and that is not optional, so the actual usage of the wallet doesn't appear to be hindered in the US in any way. This announcement was likely just a fed-facing statement to appear that they are compliant.

Still, I'm thinking of moving to JAM inside my umbrel node for any future coinjoins. How about you guys?


Wasabi next:

https://blog.wasabiwallet.io/zksnacks-now-blocking-u-s-residents-and-citizens/

My take: Also completely unnecessary, but since TOR use is not optional inside Wasabi wallet, I don't see how this changes anything during actual usage. This announcement was likely just for assuring the fedcoats that Wasabi is being compliant.


That was so nice of her to tell her fellow child molesters how they can easily pay for their habit...


The sad thing is that these MSB warnings from uncle sam are not new... Not by a longshot. We've been seeing them since 2015 at least from various govt agencies. Pure sword rattling.

Why do the French always surrender so easily?


Looks like  nostr:npub148qm45zettnf6ekgkatnyfadunxwjpu8sy88mjdsgwc5f202d93qmejra7 is pulling out of the US. If you're sick of jumping through hoops due to the whims of the tyrants in your government, check this one out.

Here's how to avoid app stores entirely and use the  nostr:npub1mutnyacc9uc4t5mmxvpprwsauj5p2qxq95v4a9j0jxl8wnkfvuyque23vg PWA in 5 minutes flat, including migrating your funds. LFG.

https://m.primal.net/IAKc.mp4


Ouch. As a citizen of the USSA I'm honestly hurt. Your wife has a razor-sharp tongue, man.


I guess it could seem that way if you don't notice the fighting we do on other fronts.


Which decentralized protocols have been captured again? Was it key-pair encryption? Torrents? Onion Routing? I2P?

Tell me you don't understand what protocols look like without telling me...


I became an Anarchist, Seasteader, & Bitcoiner (in that order) for these very reasons, over a decade ago. They were all excellent choices still.


You mean other than the native crowd funding feature called zaps that we've been using so much already?


HRF’s Bitcoin Development Fund has made several grants to JoinMarket projects and contributors

Now would be a *great* time to apply for funding to do this kind of work!

Feel free to DM me if you need the link to apply


No, you're just not very smart, that's all.

Bitcoin is well on track to becoming the alternative system that takes over all financial systems.


Crypto Open Patent Alliance, just sued faketoshi & won.


Adding that kind of complexity to the base code is 1001 headaches waiting to happen... I doubt any serious devs would undertake such an upgrade. Not to mention, how many node runners would download that frankencore version? Not all bitcoin node runners are privacy advocates; some just want to earn more dollars.

The proper way to decentralize this is joinmarket's approach. Joinmarket is a P2P network, with no central point of failure that I have seen. It's based on the Coinjoin protocol, which is, like bitcoin, truly open source & distributed.

Both Samourai and Wasabi have implemented the coinjoin protocol in their products too, so some were very surprised to see that the fedcoats would come after a company that just implemented open source code... But honestly I'm not surprised that they did.  They don't care about what you use, only that they can find someone to stick in a cage. Neanderthals.

Joinmarket doesn't (appear to, so far) have anyone to stick in a cage. Just 61 volunteer contributors on github.

https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver


There goes Samourai wallet! Head devs both arrested today:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/founders-and-ceo-cryptocurrency-mixing-service-arrested-and-charged-money-laundering


Century of the Self (BBC, 4 hours)

It shows how Sigmund Freud's nephew created Public Relations and the commercialistic society we live in today. This effected everything from politics to corn flakes, even inventing santa claus & all kinds of odd marketing tricks.


*Except CSW


You must be mistaken. I've heard many prominent shitcoiners and nocoiners both explain to me in great detail that development for bitcoin is dead.


Not convinced.
I've probably had around 50 Metric tons of white, processed sugar in my teas and coffees alone since I was 4. Add to that all the sugar from candy, cakes, and soda? You'd have to measure it in planetary mass percentages.

I'm pretty sure that taking one or two pounds of coke over that same timeframe would literally end me.


Asimov should have written: "Any sufficiently advanced government conspiracy is indistinguishable from a crackpot conspiracy theory."


What a good boy. He's already better than coldplay....


README.md isn't empty?


If the browser works for you then there's no reason to stop. - But don't trust that bitcoin wallet nor any of their future promises... They're on record as being major liars & hypocrites.


My bet is that if she was smart enough to do this, then she was smart enough to get the mortality stats on all the patients to her hospital and show those to the court... And wouldn't you know it, her patients actually lived while the others didn't do so well.


Somehow "I told you so" just doesn't cover it. The drama we had over these shitcoiners during their launch back in 2015 was epic... Yet so prophetic.

They were the 1st scammers to say "We love Bitcoin, buy my shitcoin."

https://m.primal.net/HwlI.png


Didn't Elon just soft-announce fees for all new users to post?

So basically all new users could come here.


Nah, that's just you. I'm still torrenting today, & more.


I guess biz insider doesn't consider investing in bitcoin "saving" yet.

More stacking for us, Lol.


Legend. What a unique sales proposition.

Gotta ask: Does he keep a set of his backups on dry land?


I've been to this one, it's at the Austrian summer palace. Incredible garden.


Do you have any idea how small your market is?
In the US alone, you'd have a few thousand people (who are perceived as "radical domestic terrorists" by the mainstream) appreciate Nostr for this, while the other 330 Million people all call for their arrest.

You'd certainly put nostr on the map... Just not in the way you're hoping.


Cashu gang to follow:

-  nostr:npub1cj6ndx5akfazux7f0vjl4fyx9k0ulf682p437fe03a9ndwqjm0tqj886t6 Cashu OG
-  nostr:npub1kvaln6tm0re4d99q9e4ma788wpvnw0jzkz595cljtfgwhldd75xsj9tkzv Android wallet
-  nostr:npub1dx5q2el8nd4eh3eg9t2e25fd7zuqg7zxz6ldkc3uzgh66ss2yc6st288sj iOS and Android wallet
-  nostr:npub1pp355axf69z8ndrz8zdnqa54s90e5xy737mwqk9e9cvt606nwszsdx8nu7 eNuts dev
-  nostr:npub1qjgcmlpkeyl8mdkvp4s0xls4ytcux6my606tgfx9xttut907h0zs76lgjw CDK dev
-  nostr:npub185u4z6rjk0qawhqjexqz4vkhd86d29csz7nt3myhv3ahtcq2xxzqvnkvuy Moksha dev
-  nostr:npub1arcweuxy0zkdcg08sljh058qp02ytrgnpzh4csa3ar42szyfgrpsw6ggtw Cashu factory
-  nostr:npub1mhcr4j594hsrnen594d7700n2t03n8gdx83zhxzculk6sh9nhwlq7uc226 npub-cash dev
-  nostr:npub1current7ntwqmh2twlrtl2llequeks0zfh36v69x4d3wmckg427safsh3w USD ecash pioneers
-  nostr:npub1zqsu3ys4fragn2a5e3lgv69r4rwwhts2fserll402uzr3qeddxfsffcqrs ecash UX pioneer
-  nostr:npub1f742zec57c6qk9ajfr8wyjn0s4vrfzh4hesyj2yqplvj5wrfydxsjprpa3 Macadamia dev
-  nostr:npub1dgesr3zcgyjv2z0050h7auzdlf88gycry7tlk7wsypmgngy97yxqv4mccn secp wizard
-  nostr:npub1thunderat5g552cuy7umk624ct5xe4tpgwr2jcjjq2gc0567wgrqnya79l cashu-kotlin dev
-  nostr:npub1a8jh7az9z4etn6s9cms0zm7kpvualkpf8tfx50qrjng3zrl8tl4syde2jz testing and QA
-  nostr:npub1q6mcr8tlr3l4gus3sfnw6772s7zae6hqncmw5wj27ejud5wcxf7q0nx7d5 OG service dev
-  nostr:npub1mznweuxrjm423au6gjtlaxmhmjthvv69ru72t335ugyxtygkv3as8q6mak design
-  nostr:npub13pn45hvfxqy5vpyr03krapqvsjpj34n74u36qz9aynw4svg5ypqszxgctw community
-  nostr:npub1rach342hnt3wa0qfqk0pey0exs2drcxfc0azs8eurwnee9vu64vs834atg Cashu web magician


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ppdB6JX99Q
#danstr


I've slept on noting but carpet and a sleeping bag for 15 years now, for the sake of my back. When I try sleeping on a bed again, my back gets worse within a week, making vacations hard for me.


I do know how Tor works, and only an organization like the CIA could deploy enough routing nodes to spy on anyone through it... And they won't get everyone they cast their net for. So it's mostly kosher... Just don't do anything very illegal there, because they may be casting a net for you if you do.


As long as they aren't demanding the zap button be changed to include their shitcoin somehow. - I just don't see them wanting to come here though when they can just copy the community and add their coin to it.


Why would they ever come here when the little zappy button doesn't send their shitcoin?

It's deeply baked into shitcoiners' brains that innovation is little more than copying whatever bitcoin is doing and replace BTC with their token in it. If they really liked Nostr they'd already have Solonstr.


I'll buy yours if you buy my MASTERS OF EVERYTHING TOKEN.

Total supply cap of 5.  That's right, only 5 people can be the master of everything that ever existed and ever will exist.

Total cost: 5,000 BTC each.  First come, first served.

Exclusive monkey jpeg crafted for each token!


How in the hell are you not following me yet?


He's got a point. When you respond negatively to people you reinforce their beliefs. That's well documented.

So your choices for continuing to live on a planet with socialists are:

A) Confrontation: as you would a burglar, which could quickly lead to violence. (Which 99% of the time ends in the cops putting you in jail.)

B) Quiet avoidance: just avoid them in all ways you can.

C) Keeping your enemies close: Embrace them, try to change them, but risk them stealing from you in the process.


And we love billionaires who embrace the thing that competes with the thing that made them billionaires!


Salma Hayek's dance scene in Dusk till Dawn says you're full of shit.


I know that feeling bro... I had a student driver ding my pristine car last week. No insurance yet, scared out of her mind.

I don't involve cops when it can be helped, so I looked up the cost of the repair on my phone in front of her, so she handed over $200 (most of that cost) & we parted with no hard feelings.

I like to think of it as a lesson in anarchy. ;)


After 5 years with the reins of complete power, Bukele's remaining hidden motives are inconsequential. He's been the ideal statist leader, but that probably has a lot to do with the fact his country is so tiny.

Milei strikes me as a guy who wants to be as libertarian as possible, but doesn't understand the rules & restrictions of the world he's entered... For instance, he seems to think that the FATF is something he must pander to in order to get necessary loans. He's not as experienced or as brave as Bukele is, but to be fair, Bukele didn't go in with a chainsaw and fire a large percentage of the overall government. That took guts too.

I'm going to have to chalk this fuckup up to Milei's inexperience, and hope that he changes his mind before it drives innovation away.


Your poor table... These things look heavy!
(But beautiful)


Update on my seacrete / biorock experiment!

Background:
My original post seems to have vanished, but I wanted to do a very simple experiment to confirm that calcium / magnesium minerals do indeed build up on metal mesh submerged in seawater and used as a cathode with an intermittent impressed electrical current.

This "seacrete" mineral could be grown at sea on mesh formwork, and is said to be "self-repairing" as long as intermittent surplus electricity is available to run through it from time to time.

This could build or repair components of seasteads - floating hulls or submerged modules - away from land and with minimal dependence on land-based resources and infrastructure.

(Wikipedia page on seacrete/biorock -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biorock )

Hypothesis:
Hard mineral deposits will form all over the cathode over a period of months under these conditions.

Method:
- A 20l bucket, half-filled with fresh-gathered seawater from Port Phillip Bay.
- A 100 x 100 mm (4" x 4") square of 5mm grid galvinised steel wire mesh was submerged as the cathode, wired to a 20W 12V (nominal) photovoltaic panel
- A cheap graphite electrode (diameter 6mm) was used as an anode.

The lid was loosely fitted, the PV panel placed on top. I left it next to my shed in partial shade and temperatures from about 12C to about 38C.

I checked it every weekend for a while.

Results:
Some fluffy, soft, white organic "puffballs" about 5mm in diameter formed by the end of the second week. No idea what they were, I wasn't expecting noticable biological activity since there was minimal light.

No further changes were apparent for weeks.

I left it alone for maybe two months, until a recent storm removed the panel and lid and left organic debris (mostly leaves) inside.

Upon emptying it, I noticed the graphite anode had completely disintegrated, and the copper wire held to it with cable ties was mostly green verdigris.

The mesh cathode was quite intact. Superficial white zinc oxide had formed on the above-water region of the mesh.

The most surprising change was those fluffy white puffballs. The largest ones were still white, and still visibly porous, but were very hard and mineralised. Seacrete! The smaller puffballs were a darker brownish colour, probably from dissolved iron salts in the seacrete. Finger pressure is not sufficient to crush them, they appear to be stone.

Away from the puffballs, the mesh appears unaltered below the waterline.

Photograph of the mesh on my workbench under HPS light:
https://image.nostr.build/7dce6cdf7fbaeb609ef842798409c2f4923b1010aa26dcc27e1a3d8896e53678.jpg

Discussion:
The buildup of seacrete appears to be a real phenomenon, but very strongly mediated by biological activity.

Surface roughness on the order of millimetres to tens of millimetres might be expected based on our results here, but this study is not very representative of open water.

The material seems as hard as predicted, and the mesh survived immersion very well.

Further avenues for research:
I could go and "annoy" my old boss and get the "puffballs" microscoped and xrf-ed, if /n/seasteading thinks there's a point.

After that, I'd like to scale up and make the next experiment more realistic and quantitative.

Your thoughts, /n/seasteading ? How should we do this? What do we want to learn that will help us to use this material?

#seasteading #madscience #materials


It'd still be quite rare tho, and that's a lot better than what we have now.


How can you call Monero "not inflationary" though when it's issuance can never be audited?  I don't use Monero simply because sound money needs transparency at the base layer, or one day it'll be inflated away again just like the dollar is.


New freedoms are always something to celebrate.


Aw Hell no!
Cents have their own symbol, so should sats.


UnBacked, as in there is no gold in the reserves that you can exchange it for.


It's unpacked money, like all countries issue today.


It wasn't for Biden.


SMH. Do they even try to defend this random act of centralization somewhere?


Rest in Peace Samuele Landi: Pioneer on the Indian Ocean Seastead, now at the bottom of the sea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwqQDaV188k

Tragic, horrible news, everyone.

The most daring seasteading venture to date now lies at the bottom of the Indian Ocean with it's owner, Samuele Landi, and two others lost to the sea, presumed dead. According to Oswald, the documentarian we have spoken with here on this board before, a massive storm on Feb 2nd split the barge in two parts and submerged it, taking 3 lives including Landi's with it.

Oswald has already made this mini-doc addressing it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwqQDaV188k

(Skip to 3:50 to start with the latest events)

Samuele will be remembered as a seasteading pioneer, and hopefully serve as a seassteader's cautionary tale for us to use overcome, not shy away from, building on the open sea. Rest in peace, friend.


What kind of woke-ass, blue-haired, liberal lefty morons do you take us for?


LINK PLZ


So sorry for your loss. I have a much younger pooch that I feel that way about already, and I often think how much pain it will be to lose her one day. I guess this confirms it; it's going to suck bigtime. 😢

It's crazy how human connections can be so much weaker than our connection to our furbabies. Their love is so simple and pure, always present. They never get too tired or in a bad mood to show you how much they love you. What a gift they are.


If you have any of his skin left over I'd like to make a wallet...


I have a bad back and had to do this for many years, on top of carpet & a sleeping bag. Now I live in a hardwood-flooring-only house and was forced to move to a bed. Even though I found the stiffest mattress I could, I often yearn for the floor again.


Definitely 1, because not knowing if your post went out or not is a much more serious problem in Nostr (higher consequences) than it is elsewhere.


Not well, but I'm trying to learn. Feel free to shanghi the whole idea if you want to work on it.


It' would take a full Nuremburg Trial 2.0 to even start to address this mess. So many evil people doing evil things it makes Nazi Germany look like amateurs...


Unsuprisingly, it seemed to start happening at the same time professional league esports popped up. They've now got more eyeballs watching than the NFL does!

There's some major, major sponsor money behind this trend now. It's not going away.


I've considered doing something like this but it'll take more than just Kroger's API... It should show house prices, car prices, rent, fast food chains, doctor bills, etc., Basically track all things people buy over time and price them from Pizza day to the current time. Every view is graphs, no numbers unless hovering.

I could imagine the UI having life priced in 4 columns: Fiat, Inflation-adjusted fiat, gold, and bitcoin. Maybe a 5th for the S&P500. There should also be some way to enter in a 'savings account' amount and watch how that would have performed over time.

Now that mainstream finance is standing behind bitcoin, and laymen can now believe that it will continue to exist in the future instead of just crashing to zero one day, this data could get even the most careful noob to start saving something in bitcoin.


Pop! OS by System 76.  -  https://pop.system76.com/

I've used Mint, Ubuntu & Debian for over a decade, but Pop! is the smoothest of them all.


I am convinced you're mostly right and the sausage machine is set to autopilot most of the time. I mean just look at all those Hallmark romance films and their knock-offs on other networks... You can find like 4 new ones a day nowadays, just change the job title and actors, poof, whole new movie with little to no re-writes.

But there are still good filmmakers out there with original ideas, just once in a blue moon.  Even in major properties like the Star Wars franchise there are rare gems to be found... Those Sequels were trash but did you see 2016's Rogue One? I literally judge that to be the best movie of the entire franchise, even over Episodes 4, 5, & 3! It had the most real drama by far.

Some say Chris Nolan makes great movies this century but I think he's a bit overrated... Still got a nice style, however.

I'm actually quite surprised how good a few movies are that a B-list actress named Samara Weaving keeps finding herself in. Go check out "Ready or Not" from 2019 to see what I mean. Just wow. Mahem and Guns Akimbo were also brilliant. She was also Bill & Ted's daughter in B&T3... She's really great a picking roles and practically any movie she's in should be a cult classic.

One things for sure; the better the movie, the less the mainstream seems to talk about it. This is the root of your problem.

Enjoy!


US grabs even more sea around it... THIS is why you need to put your seastead out 200+ nautical miles from everyone.

https://www.earth.com/news/the-u-s-just-expanded-its-territory-by-a-million-square-kilometers/

This year it's more shelf, who knows what it'll be next year.


I don't even grok how her contract as a cast member of The Boys would allow her to do this! She's absolutely unrecognizable like this and frankly Hughie is too good looking for her now!


LOVE Andor. & this is such a great, universal quote.

In fact, the whole time period in the Star Wars universe centered on the rise of the rebellion, from Obi-wan's miniseries up until my namesake blows up the death star, has an extremely bitcoin rebellion ethos. That includes the following series & movies: (In chrono order)

*Obi-wan Kenobi (miniseries)
*Rebels (Animated series)
*Andor (Livce-action Series)
*Rogue One (Movie)
*Star Wars A New Hope (Movie)

The best star wars movie ever, IMHO, is Rogue One, but it's hard to pick the better series between Andor and Rebels. Sure, the animation feels chincey with Rebels but the story is oh-so-good, and 100% cannon. In fact, the new live-action Ahsoka series is a direct continuation of the Rebels story set years later.

As bitcoiners we should all absorb every quote and lesson that Andor, Rebels, and Rogue One have to offer us. They were made for us more than anyone else.


Very interesting... But I still want an input method that can be used in quiet or adversarial environments.


Did you actually just post that to the guy who sells satscards and opendimes?


Time-delay those fiat bitches by using CashApp to turn BTC into fiat on the fly, and only use that to pay off credit cards (and the rent payment.) Everything else you buy (on credit) will be delayed and paid off with bitcoin. Win/win.


Can you do CashApp? Lots of folks #OnZero like myself use only it + credit cards now. Can't beat that combo.


Yes, but that "if" isn't trivial. C'mon man, stop shitposting and start making Lightning work for every last human!


What's a skyblue?


We've already got https://geyser.fund and Tallycoin.app. Bitcoin has had many crowdfunding apps since 2010, in fact.


So psyched about this new federation of them... 19 Circular economies & counting!
https://fbce.io/


I am regrettably this old.
https://i.nostr.build/xPkV.jpg


Last year it seemed everyone on both Bitcoin Twitter and the legacy media both were talking about it. This is probably less than 1% of that. 😢


Hence Channel Factories. Those payroll services will, in time, all know to open hundreds of channels with a single on-chain fee and just hand out the channels to their employees after the fact.


It's a big educational push by bitcoiners to new bitcoiners that still have their coins on an exchange; we basically teach or remind them to take their coins off exchanges like coinbase and move them to cold storage every Jan 3rd.

Search X for #ProofofKeys and you'll see there have been a few people talking about it this year afterall, mostly since my note.


You do realize that you can earn lightning sats and not on-chain sats, right?


Am I the only one who is bummed out today that no one is talking about proof of keys at all?

It's bitcoin's 15th birthday and there isn't even a thread about that in the top 15 posts at r/bitcoin. Nor is it any kind of trending topic on X!

Only here are people talking about bitcoin's Birthday but I guess because we're all maxis already there is no need to talk about proof of keys here.

So noobs won't have any enticement to get their coins off exchanges this year. :(((


Shitcoinery. Makes me actually nauseous in fact.


Happy Genesis Block Day, bitcoiners!

Yes, now I can reveal that this was my video from ~2016. Still great for teaching noobs about bitcoin with today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UyRTltUv7w


New trailer for Aisland Seasteading video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyOtNPMryEA&lc=UgyGEVP5ZwjaMn4Y81N4AaABAg

This short teaser trailer shows the conditions on the Aisland seastead much more clearly than before, and was obviously produced for the 1 year anniversary of the seastead's launch. Good stuff.


Merry Christmas, fellow Nostrich!

I've always wondered how popular Tim Minchin's Christmas song really is down there, the White Wine in the Sun song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCNvZqpa-7Q

Hearing an Ozzie friend of mine talk about it, it's more important than the presents, and possibly illegal to not play on Christmas day... Is he on crack?


Happy 1 Year at sea Aisland!

https://news.aisland.io/aisland-navigating-the-seas-of-freedom-on-the-1st-anniversary/

Today is the 1 year anniversary of Aisland floating community in the Indian ocean, according to it's founder Samuele. (His blog post about it linked above.)

If for no other reason I must congratulate this seastead for surviving 1 full year at sea. Who else can claim that about a seastead?

The whole Aisland website is well worth a few minutes of your time & is obviously growing. Unfortunately, the main economic driver for the entire community appears to be "Web3 projects," & they have their own Aisland blockchain & PoS token. ;(

Although their Agora marketplace, which accepts bitcoin, isn't a bad idea, the shitcoin & web3 options there too, and across their whole website makes me worry for their longevity.

Let's hope Samuele and his team learn the importance of Bitcoin before it's too late for this project.

Parts of his website worth checking out:

Floating city project: https://floatingcity.aisland.io/
News portal: https://news.aisland.io/
Agora marketplace: https://agora.aisland.io/
Dex: https://dex.aisland.io/

Although only 1 of 20 barges are in place now, they have a video online now selling apartments and villas on the other 19 barges they plan to have in place soon. What do you guys think about this whole project? Will it be around next year?


I'm a L2 maximalist. ;) We certainly need it for bitcoin to become useful currency, but I don't think we're going to see a single L2 defeat all the others for quite a while, maybe centuries... Because TradFin (Nations, banks & corps) needs their high-KYC'd, well-regulated Bitcoin while bitcoiners want the opposite. (And Senator Warren can't stop us getting it.) Thank goodness more than one L2 can be popular at once.

I'd ideally like to see ETFs and bank-custodial Bitcoin in use by TradFin while the rest of us choose the L2 flavor that is best for us individually. Maybe we even have room for a more Private L2 (for extreme privacy) beside the existing ones today.


Now define L2s...

Are the ETFs L2? They're going to win by many metrics.

Is custodial lightning L2? It's going to beat the crap out of self-kept lightning.

Are individual Fedi federations all L2? One of those, if done right, has the possibility of eclipsing lightning too.


Tell us you haven't done the math without saying you haven't done the math.

You're talking about blocks of infinite size... We literally fought a war in 2017 and won against a majority of miners and businesses who just wanted to double the block size... Your proposal is redonkulous.

We fought that war because doubling the block size would drastically reduce the number of nodes & harm bitcoin's decentralization/self-sovereignty.


You're definitely overlooking some issues that are harder to solve here. I agree little set-top boxes could be a way for normies to get into lightning one day, but to get to that point we really need to solve balancing & security issues that seem very formidable, if not impossible.


I've had so much faith in lightning for so many years it really kills me to agree with you, but today I think I finally can.

The way I see it, there are 4 _Bad_ Problems with Lightning that stop adoption:

1. Inbound liquidity is needed - In practice this requires custodial wallets. (& autobalancing costs money!)

2. Bad UX - (Not UI, but the difference to users in applepay and ensuring channels are liquid.) This will likely requires AI to fix! (But then that would be a security problem)

3. Lower security than on-chain (no hardware wallets for lightning) How can we move to the 2nd layer if we only think of the base chain as a safe place to store our wealth?

4. Possibility of being forced to pay channel open/close fees. Imagine having a bank account that regularly debited you for fees for what they do on the backend. Ain't nobody gonna put up with that in the long run!

There are certainly other problems but these four are biggies because they seem impossible to crack. Man I hope I'm wrong but that's how it looks today.


Oh good, you've arrived. Now we can actually start this thing.


Admit it, all your friends actually went over to Truth Social. ;p

I think Nostr will continue to be a mostly-Bitcoin-only community until the day when the apps here get too good to ignore anymore. I'm guessing 2025. Then the whole world will be forced to start using it.


Funny SmashMouth parody music video "Bitcoin's Better than Gold" by nostr:npub12u423pq5c6c5gvyzlekk5u9s5ksnyd27yemuvu3l9gpqpcnx545s6f8pyh is now available on our streaming apps. Give him some listens so he can earn some Sats for Views! #tunestr

https://i.nostr.build/gQR7.jpg


Building materials for seasteads

The high seas are (theoretically) open and free, but come with many construction challenges. Waves and winds should be familiar to all of us. I'm going to talk about construction materials options in the presence of the unholy trinity of biofouling, chloride corrosion, and UV.

Aluminium. Lightweight, inexpensive, easily recycled, handles UV well. Moderate difficulty to work and to repair. No particular resistance to biofouling if left in contact with water, but is not vulnerable to burrowing. Is destroyed very quickly by chloride corrosion. Not a practical option unless you are in a low-chloride environment like the Great Lakes of North America.

Cupronickel (including gunmetal, admiralty brass and similar). Moderately easily worked and recycled. Heavy. Invulnerable to UV. Extreme resistance to biofouling (toxic to invertebrates but not mammals or plants). Decent strength in tension compression and shear. Decent creep resistance. Horribly expensive. Resistant but not immune to chloride attack - no crevice corrosion or pitting, but sheds material very slowly across its entire surface. Combined with its cost this is like watching banknotes blow over the side. Can be practical for piping and similar when too small or inaccessible for inspection and maintainence.

Polymers (plastics). Lightweight, inexpensive. Uniquely vulnerable to UV, this can be managed with coatings, free-radical stabilisers and UV-absorbent fillers such as titanium dioxide. Mostly low strength, lower stiffness and no creep resistance unless reinforced with glass fibre, carbon fibre, or metal fibre. Easily recycled... unless you add fillers or reinforcement: you need both. Good resistance to biofouling. Essentially immune to chloride attack (though metal fittings and reinforcement might be vulnerable). Cheap and practical to build, moderately easy to repair, impossible to recycle.

Steel, coated. Very easily worked and repaired, moderately easily recycled. Cheap. Moderately heavy. Immune to UV. Coating can provide good resistance to biofouling. Excellent strength in tension, compression and shear. Excellent creep resistance. Quite vulnerable to chloride corrosion and related sulphate corrosion, can be managed with constant inspection and maintainance. Best option for working boats / infrastructure that expect to be damaged and repaired almost constantly.

Steel, stainless 316. Easily worked and repaired, moderately easily recycled. Expensive. Moderately heavy. Immune to UV, highly resistant to biofouling, more so if coated.  Excellent strength in tension, compression and shear. Excellent creep resistance. Resistant to chloride and sulphate corrosion, doubly so if coated. This is not true of the cheaper 304 stainless and similar. Best all-rounder if you can afford it.

Your thoughts? Other options I may have overlooked?


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20%

That's being pessimistic about the future of civilization & politics, however. If society doesn't have a huge collapse somehow, then it'll just be like 2%.


People talking about how millennials are so unlucky financially because of crashes and house prices inflation etc

Meanwhile we have the opportunity to own and understand the best performing asset in human history, earning returns in 4 years what took boomers 40 years to earn.

We can spin up businesses with a few AI prompts

We actually have access to information that isn't propaganda

We have it made, we are the luckiest generation

Miss me with that victim shit


I prefer to let the fee market price those nitwits out, but I'm glad you did this with Knots so we can see the difference in performance between clients.


Ugh, here's the profile link that you guys see, not just me:

https://www.wavlake.com/lukeparker


My Wavlake artist profile:

https://www.wavlake.com/profile/lukeparker

For those nostriches that didn't already know, I was the artist known as "CryptoKnight" that put out a few bitcoin parody videos back in 2017-2019!

I just added them all to Wavlake, and if I earn more than a few sats over there I might start making more. Enjoy!


Holy Crap! Seasteading looks like it's finally starting to take off!

I've been closely following Seasteading since 2010 and eventually I got to the point where I was numb to all project announcements because no floating platforms ever materialized. Then in 2019 there was a brief moment of hope with Elwar's little house on the water, at least until the Thai Navy attacked, and things quickly went back to zero.

But that was somehow enough to start a new revolution in seasteading. Four years later and now we have a plethora of projects that are actually taking shape!

Here's what's got me excited for seasteading again:

1. Sam's barge-based Seastead now floating in the Indian Ocean. (You can see it in this crowdfunding video for a documentary about it: ) https://geyser.fund/project/floatingcity

2. Ocean Builders begins selling their Deep Water pods that have the underwater room, fit for deep-sea seasteading!  (You can watch them lowering the new type of spar here: )
https://oceanbuilders.com/blog/lowering-the-spar-into-the-water/

3. Most encouraging of all, Ocean Builders has also announced that they have already backlogged over 300 (!) orders for their seapods in varying configurations. They are now moving into their 'sea neighborhoods' stage of planning. (Watch OB President Chad Elwartowski explain it here:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0eEIKI510M

These three things are happening now, not at some far off date in the unproven future. By this time next year I hope to see a neighborhood of seasteaders floating off Panama and several barges linked together hosting a budding deep-sea neighborhood in the Indian Ocean as well. These are both things I never could hope before now would happen in the forseeable future.

And hey, don't forget all those other juicy projects at the seasteading instutute: https://www.seasteading.org/active-projects/ Surely one or two of those will pan out too!


Would we really know it if there were more?


Damn, if you raise that bar any higher we'll all need telescopes to see it...


Need to work on that OpSec brah...


“Economics” only seems complicated when viewing it through the same system designed to steal from you.

#Bitcoin


Looks truly groundbreaking, but it seems like there could be serious key security concerns here... What's creating their nsec, & how is it being stored?

It could also use some tooltip-style "this is what is happening" explainers throughout.


Wow, great responses! They give me hope that maybe barges will be all that it takes afterall.

I especially love how Sam is set on spending the rest of his life onboard. That's the kind of determination that will make seasteading happen for real. There's no way to know when people can break away from their homes, jobs, and families to come join a seastead so it's important that the welcome mat be rolled out over a long period of time.

I sincerely hope you're right that this one could be the seastead to trigger others all over the world. Now we just need to get the word out.


Better question: WHY would you say "freerse?"


Holy crap you're talented!

More like this! More like this!


Hi Oswald! Thanks for responding here. I've got so many questions about both the barge Seastead and your film. I'll number them for you below to save time, feel free to take your time answering them.

1st of all, I looked at the seasteading.org projects list and the only one they have listed in the Indian ocean is "Freedom Haven," although it is still listed as in port. Is Sam's seastead associated with that? If not, is the seasteading institute aware of his project at all?

Secondly, what are Sam's main goals/hopes/dreams for his project? Is it about floating autonomy, or more of a technical showcase? Is he trying to make new land because he's anti-state, or is this more of a project to house the poor/immigrants/those in need kind of thing?

3rd: Which flag is he going to fly?

4th: What kind of economy does Sam hope for this project? Is there a type of job that Sam feels this environment is best suited for?

5th: What power & freshwater generation capability does the have here now, and what does he have planned for later?

6: About the barge's maintenance, will someone have to actively scrape the rust & life off below the waterline?

7: Does Sam have a plan for inviting/allowing immigrants yet?

8: Does Sam have any defense plans for Pirates or other hostiles?

9: Does Sam have any type of governance structure planned for the community on his seastead?

10:  How did you meet Sam & hear about the project?

11: What's your background in seasteading? What do you hope to see it achieve?

12: What event/scenario/goal will you need to cover in order for your docu to be finished?

Thanks again for your work in the space and I will help spread the word over multiple platforms. Cheers!


we keep shipping at Strike

yesterday we turned on fiat card on-ramps for Mexico, Brazil, India, Vietnam, and Guatemala

today we released sending to Lightning Addresses. you can send fiat or bitcoin to a Lightning Address with Strike. here is a demo where I send nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx $10 from my bank account to his Lightning Address. we aren’t far away from cross-currency payments over the internet looking like sending an email over the internet

Strike Africa, Strike EU, Strike LatAm coming up next. looking to ship Africa before Christmas

stay humble, stack shipping 🚢🛳⛴ https://v.nostr.build/8KPa.mp4


Works smoothly for me, but can't find the relay settings page in it... Future addition perhaps?


In a bull market? Good luck.


Made a new thing, don't sue me https://dtan.xyz/


New crowdfunding campaign for a Seastead in the Indian Ocean!

https://geyser.fund/project/floatingcity

Yesterday a new seasteading crowdfunding campaign launched on Geyser.fund showing a video of a barge in the Indian ocean with a bunch of workers on it, building a floating city, called "the only seastead."

Here's the video for those who can't be bothered to click to the campagn page:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMkqQYx46Jc

I cannot vouch for this project personally, but I've contributed to it and encourage you all to give whatever you have to spare, to further the cause.

It's obviously run by bitcoiners who use Nostr, so despite what I think about the need for spars underneath a seastead, this looks like one hell of a strong first attempt, if only for the sheer size of this structure alone.

What do you guys think about this attempt? Likes & Dislikes?


Building materials for seasteads

The high seas are (theoretically) open and free, but come with many construction challenges. Waves and winds should be familiar to all of us. I'm going to talk about construction materials options in the presence of the unholy trinity of biofouling, chloride corrosion, and UV.

Aluminium. Lightweight, inexpensive, easily recycled, handles UV well. Moderate difficulty to work and to repair. No particular resistance to biofouling if left in contact with water, but is not vulnerable to burrowing. Is destroyed very quickly by chloride corrosion. Not a practical option unless you are in a low-chloride environment like the Great Lakes of North America.

Cupronickel (including gunmetal, admiralty brass and similar). Moderately easily worked and recycled. Heavy. Invulnerable to UV. Extreme resistance to biofouling (toxic to invertebrates but not mammals or plants). Decent strength in tension compression and shear. Decent creep resistance. Horribly expensive. Resistant but not immune to chloride attack - no crevice corrosion or pitting, but sheds material very slowly across its entire surface. Combined with its cost this is like watching banknotes blow over the side. Can be practical for piping and similar when too small or inaccessible for inspection and maintainence.

Polymers (plastics). Lightweight, inexpensive. Uniquely vulnerable to UV, this can be managed with coatings, free-radical stabilisers and UV-absorbent fillers such as titanium dioxide. Mostly low strength, lower stiffness and no creep resistance unless reinforced with glass fibre, carbon fibre, or metal fibre. Easily recycled... unless you add fillers or reinforcement: you need both. Good resistance to biofouling. Essentially immune to chloride attack (though metal fittings and reinforcement might be vulnerable). Cheap and practical to build, moderately easy to repair, impossible to recycle.

Steel, coated. Very easily worked and repaired, moderately easily recycled. Cheap. Moderately heavy. Immune to UV. Coating can provide good resistance to biofouling. Excellent strength in tension, compression and shear. Excellent creep resistance. Quite vulnerable to chloride corrosion and related sulphate corrosion, can be managed with constant inspection and maintainance. Best option for working boats / infrastructure that expect to be damaged and repaired almost constantly.

Steel, stainless 316. Easily worked and repaired, moderately easily recycled. Expensive. Moderately heavy. Immune to UV, highly resistant to biofouling, more so if coated.  Excellent strength in tension, compression and shear. Excellent creep resistance. Resistant to chloride and sulphate corrosion, doubly so if coated. This is not true of the cheaper 304 stainless and similar. Best all-rounder if you can afford it.

Your thoughts? Other options I may have overlooked?


I've written an article to finally put some ideas out there. Hopefully it will start some good conversations.. 👍🏻
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Agreed, and yes the existing apps could use a little more improvement first. Maybe Jack's right, search is what they're missing... We've already got some great starts just missing that.

I personally wouldn't even talk much about keys; I'd just show (in video form when possible) an automatic login using a wallet & LN-Auth. Everyone has a phone, this login UX is a great selling point.

I've been thinking about a script for such a video for a while now, mulling it over in my head. Waiting for search to be perfected could take another 5 years though; I need to draw a line in the sand and turn this into video before I get old and gray...


Decentralizing search itself seems impossible. We're likely stuck with private search providers.

The thing that centralized Google as our legacy web search provider was simply that they produced better search results than all the others by a wide margin.

Like all other decentralized systems, the only way I see to stop that happening to private search providers in Nostr is for them to share a search distribution protocol.

Do you think it would be possible for Nostr devs to work together and build a single search protocol for all their apps that includes results from all present and future private search providers?

Or will the problem always remain that a new private search provider could pop up that is so good they'll steal eyes away from the in-app search results?


The protocol element is precisely what sets nostr apart from old social media. It is a concept that must be communicated, elsewise noobs all think nostr is just a bad twitter clone and nothing more.

I do agree on focusing on experiences tho, I don't see these two concepts at odds. A good introduction would begin with something like:  "Look at all these new apps! You only need one login to instantly use it all with Nostr, and your content in nostr is shared across them all, automatically!"


I guess you don't want to hear my opinion on Pinaepple pizza then, huh?


How to reply to a PoS shitcoiner:

PoS has been around for thousands of years, it's nothing new. Government money is proof of stake, as are company shares.

Egyptians, Romans, and Chinese were using this 2000+ years ago. Italian city states perfected it 800 years ago. Stake based systems are not new.

Using stake to solve the Byzantine General's Problem is also not new. Cypherpunks have been working on this shit since the late 80s.

The cypherpunks on the mailing list (that Satoshi sent the white paper to for peer review) are literally the people who created the *entire body cryptographic of work* used by proof of stake coins today (stake based byzantine fault tolerance).  They are well aware of the fundamental limitations of stake based BFT because they are ones who came up with it in the first place...

If Bitcoin was proof of stake *you would never have heared of it* because it wouldn't have survived 5 minutes of peer review by any real cryptographers.

Time-based difficulty-adjusted PoW *is* the breakthrough and is the *only* reason you and anyone has ever heard of a "blockchain".

The failure modes of stake based BFT are well known, and it fails *every time* for a number of reasons, but if you are betting on a shitcoin to increase in value then the failure mode will probably involve the fact that stakeholders have an incentive to increase the supply to benefit from the cantillion effect.

Mathematical fact: you cannot deploy external capital to defend a system that is secured by internal history (stake). This is why stake based BFT does *not* secure against attack by a state or central bank, which means *anything* secured by PoS MUST comply with governments.

Bitcoin's value proposition is that Bitcoin let's you do things that bankers and governments *don't want you to do*. If bankers and governmensts can nuke your shitcoin, then you do what they say or they nuke it.

What's the value proposition beyond CBDCs if your shitcoin ultimately has to comply with governments and bankers?

You cannot out-stake a bad actor who has aquired sufficient stake to fuck with the system, your only option is to fork them out. Then it becomes a competition between charismatic personalities convincing the market to follow their authority (their fork) instead of the other guy.

So how do you solve the problem of removing a bad actor without requiring some form of authority? Read the Bitcoin white paper. Satoshi knew exactly how stake based systems fail, that's *exactly* why he used proof of work instead.


I think it's like most things that compete for network effect; growth looks stalled while it's pre-S-curve, and then one day it will explode. Just takes the right event to kick it off.


Pizza without Black olives isn't really a pizza at all...


Concept for mobile homestead anchored by the shore.

I modeled the homestead in 3D in 2021 and it has some practical design flaws since I'm not an architect and my main focus was exploring the aesthetics.

A few things lacking: I didn't spend time on working out a proper homestead-to-homestead connection system. The general idea was to connect homesteads via extendable bridges. Under the platforms it would make sense to have large airtight rounded structures (floats/pontoons) that stabilize the homestead. I have no idea what the maritime technical requirements for seasteading in the open sea would be, so take this as an amateur vision that needs overhaul.

The homestead has three floors, with the main apartment below deck. The idea is having either an enclosed internal ladder system between the floors, an enclosed elevator or both. If one level is compromised by attackers, the owner must be able to pass between the three levels securely within the enclosed ladder/elevator system.

The elevator shaft would most practically be located on the outside of the structure, albeit the drawback is that it impacts the silhouette of the homestead. Below deck it would have an exit door and a dock for maritime vessels. The homestead could also have a diving chamber below the whole structure as an additional escape route. Think James Bond. 😄

https://image.nostr.build/650d766b3bc64845dc6f2fcbc21cc6bae158e3c504a22fcb68e1e6b126763772.jpg

https://image.nostr.build/29cd040a21b80d337bec5f61db83f322f9fc60efa7a10d13517d1b6f3d0e24ec.jpg

https://image.nostr.build/ef5c6b012f5c261e7577df1fdbfc815c9651c836d19d4dd8402ea42f9404743f.jpg

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I eat out a lot and the shrinkflation I have been seeing, in all restaurants since covid hit, is simply redonkulous. It's the most constant topic of conversation at our mealtimes, which items we discover that very day that have fewer items or smaller portions for the same price. It's absolutely constant now.

I haven't touched a big mac in years, but if they are even 50% of the size that they used to be I can guarantee you that most of their weight is strictly cheap additives somehow. Probably cancer-causing additives, too. They just stopped caring last year.


Are you a monk? Take the vow of Poverty, perhaps? ;)


Love it! Have a zap.


Devving the app isn't going to be as hard as it used to be, but writing all those cards will take time & a particular sense of humor. Also, are you thinking about putting the game ON Nostr? Such as using the nostr network as the multiplayer networking channel somehow? (Making the app a website, I presume.)


Do you know if hemp grows near the beach? (Salt air)

Sounds promising if so.


Now do youtube. Why slow down our nodes when we could offload the heavy lifting to some kind of distributed CDN?


That's just too much data. It's becoming clear that we're going to need some kind of nostr Relay-to-torrent crossover to host all the data that big social apps like Nostrpedia and NosTube would require.


Where's all that data going to get stored?


But I don't want to return to the upright position...


You have no idea how lucky you are. Can't wait to see what your generation comes up with.


Reddit r/bitcoin is such a hellhole now... I got downvoted to oblivion recently for simply advocating to 'be your own bank.' Apparently, everyone on r/bitcoin is now a daytrader with no more need to keep their money outside of the legacy system. (!)


Extremely highly recommended to all new bitcoiners.


I was thinking 'goofy,' but I did see Dr. Evil & mini-me wearing those so you may have a point...


I can't think of any spar & framework material that is maintainable in the field except concrete. (Which has pro-reef properties underwater) Maybe the goal should be to use whatever metal framework is cheapest on the inside and cover it up completely in concrete? That way it could be patched in the field, and seastead platforms could last centuries.

I've also had the idea to make each spar completely detachable so that if it had a problem we could simply pull a pin and drop that one, depending on dozens or hundreds of other spars underneath the entire structure to absorb the load while a new one is being made/shipped out.


I just use an Alby wallet here on my desktop. Works great.


I've heard that Titanium is still too expensive at our scale, but a particular grade of aluminum is what a lot of oil rig pontoons are made of. Oddly, when I look around online now, industry standards say 316 Steel everywhere I look.

Either way, do you know if the thermal spray coatings they do with molten zinc or zinc/aluminium alloys work on both steel & aluminum? Sounds like those are needed for longevity in both cases.


These are beautiful renders! I like all the outdoor space, rustic & full of plants. I'd love for you to post them over at n/seasteading here:
https://satellite.earth/n/seasteading/npub12u423pq5c6c5gvyzlekk5u9s5ksnyd27yemuvu3l9gpqpcnx545s6f8pyh
Be sure to join there as a member, as well!


Building materials for seasteads

The high seas are (theoretically) open and free, but come with many construction challenges. Waves and winds should be familiar to all of us. I'm going to talk about construction materials options in the presence of the unholy trinity of biofouling, chloride corrosion, and UV.

Aluminium. Lightweight, inexpensive, easily recycled, handles UV well. Moderate difficulty to work and to repair. No particular resistance to biofouling if left in contact with water, but is not vulnerable to burrowing. Is destroyed very quickly by chloride corrosion. Not a practical option unless you are in a low-chloride environment like the Great Lakes of North America.

Cupronickel (including gunmetal, admiralty brass and similar). Moderately easily worked and recycled. Heavy. Invulnerable to UV. Extreme resistance to biofouling (toxic to invertebrates but not mammals or plants). Decent strength in tension compression and shear. Decent creep resistance. Horribly expensive. Resistant but not immune to chloride attack - no crevice corrosion or pitting, but sheds material very slowly across its entire surface. Combined with its cost this is like watching banknotes blow over the side. Can be practical for piping and similar when too small or inaccessible for inspection and maintainence.

Polymers (plastics). Lightweight, inexpensive. Uniquely vulnerable to UV, this can be managed with coatings, free-radical stabilisers and UV-absorbent fillers such as titanium dioxide. Mostly low strength, lower stiffness and no creep resistance unless reinforced with glass fibre, carbon fibre, or metal fibre. Easily recycled... unless you add fillers or reinforcement: you need both. Good resistance to biofouling. Essentially immune to chloride attack (though metal fittings and reinforcement might be vulnerable). Cheap and practical to build, moderately easy to repair, impossible to recycle.

Steel, coated. Very easily worked and repaired, moderately easily recycled. Cheap. Moderately heavy. Immune to UV. Coating can provide good resistance to biofouling. Excellent strength in tension, compression and shear. Excellent creep resistance. Quite vulnerable to chloride corrosion and related sulphate corrosion, can be managed with constant inspection and maintainance. Best option for working boats / infrastructure that expect to be damaged and repaired almost constantly.

Steel, stainless 316. Easily worked and repaired, moderately easily recycled. Expensive. Moderately heavy. Immune to UV, highly resistant to biofouling, more so if coated.  Excellent strength in tension, compression and shear. Excellent creep resistance. Resistant to chloride and sulphate corrosion, doubly so if coated. This is not true of the cheaper 304 stainless and similar. Best all-rounder if you can afford it.

Your thoughts? Other options I may have overlooked?


Another great argument for Seasteading. The masses stay on dry land and the enlightened get an invite to join... Then after we create a beautiful new world, the masses can learn through our example and eventually join us.


Comparing Elon to Jack is absurd. It's naive to think that simply having money makes you a megalomaniac or evil in some way... It's all about how you make your money.

Many bitcoiners, who become that way through stacking alone, are billionaires in dollar terms now. Mostly they just keep to themselves and don't do much. I don't know any of them doing evil things with their money.

Jack has a long track record of building things that set mankind Free. He understands that government is not on your side and both on the free speech and the free money fronts he's never stopped working towards open source solutions to these centralized problems.

Elon wouldn't know what open source meant if it bit him.


Why don't you learn to read the room? Jack's a hero around here.

Why do you think otherwise? Because he couldn't control the evil folks that threw him out at twitter?


I would think that since these are all roof projects that the salt spray concentration rapidly goes down as you stack more stories. Assuming that the seastead is 10ft off the water and these are on the 3rd floor above the deck, we're talking about 30+ feet in the air here.

I always assumed the PV panels would need a good squeegeeing each week or so anyway... But do you really think the spray would hurt the gardens up there?


Very true. I want someone to go onto CNBC Sqwakbox and answer every question ending with this line!


Please don't stink up this pristine place with panhandling! It's cringe AF.


I'm pretty sure this would only affect merchant adoption in the US. Many would at least remove those "Bitcoin accepted here" signs and stop reporting any bitcoin income to the IRS.

Sounds good to me, actually. Bitcoin merchant adoption in the US is near zippo.


Or... Since this wouldn't discriminate hodling (nay, quite the opposite) then the outcome would just be felt at merchants... Many in the US would indeed stop accepting BTC publicly. (Poor bitcoin Sign industry!)

But let's face it. Merchant adoption in the US is abysmal. The rest of the world is where the good stuff is happening on this front. All these startup economies like bitcoin Beach, bitcoin Lake, Bitcoin Ekasi, etc... Those will all shine like a beacon to the whole world as they grow.

Americans who still want to use it will then be incentivized to use more permissionless tools. This part is very good for bitcoin. Ideal, in fact. It takes bitcoin back to it's cyberpunk origins in the mind of all americans.

The price may take a small hit at some point, but this really isn't unwelcome news.


Our embedded node, LSP, and self-custodial lightning addresses are now available for everyone to test.

https://blog.zeusln.com/zeus-v0-8-0-open-beta/


I'd think so, and temperature too. It's just seawater & sunlight...


I WANT TO BELIEVE - Distillation cheaper than tap water

https://scitechdaily.com/mits-new-desalination-system-produces-freshwater-that-is-cheaper-than-tap-water/

According to this MIT paper, they've cracked sunlight-driven water distillation that uses no electricity yet provides 5 Liters of distilled, drinkable water per hour per meter squared!


I think if we didn't have bitcoin, then the end of the Fiat experiment, as obviously flawed as it was, would take us all the way down to apocolyptic near-extinction. Maybe full extinction if combined with nuclear war.

With bitcoin we have a real chance of a "soft landing." Family by family, or even individual by individual, we will all have a point where we feel the money we're told to use fails us and bitcoin is a _useful_ alternative.

Multiply that by 8 Billion people and you've completely ended state's control over the money supply and no major event happens like an economic collapse... There would be an equal and opposite Economy growing at the same time and eventually everyone will be in it. (Yes, even Krugman & Schiff)


Without even imagining the term incrementalism, I came to the exact same conclusion. I try to promote Bitcoin and Nostr every day and I'm learning to code to help even more.


What's on your roof?

Rooftop real estate is going to be much more valuable on a seastead. Depending on which 'public' utilities are offered to the community, your roof will likely have one or more of the following options on it:

Sun Deck:

Some may simply want more square footage to stand on, such as a sun deck, like we saw on the first seastead in Thailand circa 2019. A nearly free option, this would require building your roof to support as much weight as your floor.

Personal Garden:

Like a Sun Deck, a year-round garden would make an excellent rooftop addition but would not be cheap to install. It would need a walkpath around it, a drainage system so it doesn't get washed away every downpour, and as much or even more floor bracing than the sundeck did to hold up the weight of all that soil and water.

Storage Shed:

Pack rats may opt to simply throw a storage shed up there, not unlike the $300 backyard barns you can buy at your local hardware store today. Again, roof bracing needs to hold it's weight.

Solar Power Generation:

Solar panels would be a major, common choice for most, because decentralized energy, even if available only half the time, is free after the cost of the panels. Batteries like Tesla's power wall would be ideal for keeping a home powered 24-7 from such panels if no central power options were offered. That does come at a pretty expense, however.

Freshwater Gathering:

The most cheap option is likely a simple rain cachement tray over your homestead, which decentralizes your fresh water source making that nearly free. Of course the H2O has to be stored somewhere, so anyone deploying a rain cachement roof will have to include a large water tank at least 1 floor beneath it. (Sucking up more real estate footage.)

Wind Power Generation:

If a seastead sees near-constant wind, a few small vertical poles could hold up windmills. One on each corner of the dwelling, in fact, perhaps more. While this isn't a cheap option it can be combined with any of the above options, because these windmills will sit higher up, on poles.

So which will it be?

Your own roof will likely be the same as every other roof around you for one good reason: The availability of lower-cost services on your seastead. If there were no cheap power or water options available, then most seasteaders would need to both cache rain and generate power upstairs, which would most likely be the rain cachement tray with a few windmills. Since rainwater is very clear, I could see a cachement tray made with solar panels at the bottom of it as well.

If your community supplies cheap power but not water, then everyone would have to do cachement but might reserve up to half the room for gardening or storage.

If your community supplies desalinated water but no central power, then few would use any cachement (again, takes up room downstairs) but everyone would likely have both solar panels and wind turbines vying for space up there.

Only if your seastead offers both, would a variety of choices prevail, giving people the option to use the space how they see fit.  This would make the seastead far more interesting & able to be personalized.


Bio diesel is interesting... I've already addressed wind in #4. (personal use only, I'd say) Where are we going to get the wood to gasify?


Impostor identification idea:

If any two people on nostr dare use the same username with the same picture, it's quite obvious that the user that came later is the impostor.

Of course you don't want your client to check every posts' user to see if there is an older user out there with that Username+Pic by default... That would be a lot of needless requests.

-But how many impostors would go out and get verified by a paid service like NostrVerified or Nostr-check? That would cost sats, so it would be a perfect wast of money.

Therefore, clients could simply do a username+Pic check on all non-verified(paid) accounts. That should put an end to impostors here in a way that OldBirdApp never had.


I AM BORED AND HAVE LITTLE NEW TO SAY BUT OK!


Pay-to-follow would basically prevent everyone from getting their first followers. That's clearly too extreme. Pay-to-comment seems impossible to enforce, because there isn't such a thing as 'comments turned off' in NOSTR anyway.

Pay-to-relay is the one I'm hearing most often but it's not enough IMHO. If a spammer just paid 1 relay with a large reach it would still get to tons of people. There would always be free relays too, anyway.

I'm thinking a real attempt to design spam blockers here would be another 2nd layer technology, perhaps a paid whitelist built into clients, or some kind of web of trust.


There is no competition for uncensorable speech.


All great points, I fully agree.

I'd heard of Xeer law but shamefully haven't gotten a chance to read up on it yet. Thanks for the book recommendation.

When you get down to it, any worthwhile set of laws is just an exercise in writing down our built-in feelings of morality. Voluntaryism is the best such set of morals I know of and I'd think one day we'll see a whole, flushed-out legal system based upon it.


Some Catholic Priests are Pedos.

ALL Politicians are pedos.

Religion literally has nothing to do with either.

These are all just people who want power.


WTF is wrong with you?


Welcome! Don't forget to set up your lightning address, we can't zap you like this!


Beautiful! Were those the wet kind, like from an Asian store?
How long in the air fryer?


I got 58 new spammy-looking, zero-post new followers today... Jimeny Crickets!

Anyone got a clue how we're going to with the war on spam on #nostr?


Not a shitcoin, per se... But MAYBE a good way to change bitcoin into a more private version of itself when sending across the lightning network.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/print/how-to-guide-running-an-ecash-mint


That Bitcoin Magazine link at the end includes a plan by @natehawaii on how bitcoiners can and will scale up OTEC to true viability. He's been working hard on it already!


I've always liked the idea of a single plastic polymer on a seastead, or at most two that are very easy to identify from each other. (One could be very soft like rubber & the other hard ABS, for example.)

I don't see a reason to have Glass recycling since we can't print it and hard plastic would do the same job.

But I didn't know that about Aluminum! Good to hear. So that would make a seasteader's ideal recycling bin something like AHSP: Aluminum, Hard plastic, Soft plastic, Paper. Then of course all organic waste gets mulched.


Love how the price jumped.

Let's get some news outlet to take one for the team like that every week!


NahStir, sir.


Lol. -> Me over here all day long on https://kycnot.me


Reply to this post with your wishlist for Shipyard.pub.

And zap the answers you agree with the most. I will use the results to this as to guide the roadmap.

RN (renote) for visibility! 🙏


Markup, markup, markup!

Anything and everything that would make the text we write prettier.


Need to put Killary's face over the girl's here.


Great writing environment! Can't wait for markup features.

Here's my first Shipyard post:
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