Interesting!
1. Can we get a side-by-side listing of trade-offs DATUM compared to StratumV2?  I’d like to know more about what the differences are in more detail, and what led to the decision to really create something new instead of building off V2.

2. Are there any other specific aspects of mining centralization that DATUM still leaves unresolved?  Where are there still decentralization risks theoretically assuming if this is largely adopted over the next 3-5yrs?  Curious to know what Ocean thinks looking forward on this.

3. Are there plans for Ocean to push / advocate for knots?  Or is that not the scope of the business plan?  Knots could use some marketing / documentation help, maybe there’s an opportunity to do this with Ocean’s efforts. If knots has real advantages over core, this has not been well communicated.  Convince more people why knots is better, why doe is advance the decentralization ethos over core, broaden the dev resources & interest in the project, etc…Ocean might be able to help.

4. What are the payout changes/fees etc.. that Ocean pool can set expectations for?  Assume this will change as you’re still in bootstrap-mode, so it would be good to really be transparent to what those fee/changes may be in the future (if any).  Don’t make people think this is a bait-switch tactic!

Looking forward to seeing how this plays out in the market, exciting stuff!  It’s great that Ocean is really taking this mining pool centralization seriously and taking steps to deliver real alternatives with real incentives.  And thank you to Jack and others with the funding support to make this a reality.  Great work by the team!


Agree..but would you consider classifying inflation as outright theft from the government?


1. YouTube: Bitcoin University, by Matthew Kratter. Excellent channel, tons of content, just search any topic about bitcoin and Matt’s made a presentation on it. Matt is also on NOSTR.

2. YouTube: What Bitcoin Did, by Peter McCormack and Danny Knowles.  Both are on NOSTR.

3. YouTube: TFTC.  Marty and Matt have such an awesome vibe, great content to listen to. Relevant, no b.s. and both are very active on NOSTR.

4. Book: Broken Money, by Lyn Alden.  Macro through the lens of an engineer.  Lyn is very active on NOSTR.

5. Book: Bitcoin Standard, by Saifedean Ammous.  Saif is very active on NOSTR.

6. YouTube: Robert Breedlove.  Philosophical, and really thought provoking content.

7. YouTube: Natalie Brunell Coin Stories.  Awesome bitcoin content, brings complicated topics easy to understand.

Also, check out:
1. James Lavish, the Informationist.  Hands down the best way to understand complicated economic concepts. And why bitcoin is so important. On NOSTR.

2.  Preston Pysh, YouTube.  He does a great job of explaining current economic issues and has great guests on. Very active on NOSTR.

3.  Matthew Mežinskis & ‘The Rational Root’.  The best data, best charts, best analysis.

This should get the rabbit hole started.  And Welcome!  Be patient, its a lot to absorb, but will change your life on how you understand economics, money, incentives…ask questions, challenge others and yourself.


Ok, I see.  Thanks for the explanation.  It’s an incremental improvement.


How exactly does DNS become un-used?  I have a hard time believing that there’s not one dependency that requires a domain lookup call in some form or fashion. Thanks in advance, really interesting.


Need to research more on MM.  I believe its just another branch of Joe Lubin and Vitalik’s empire.  This is not what is needed. Also, there’s data/articles on how MM collects all user IP addresses.

Infura -> Consensus -> Joe Lubin.

Hard pass on MM.


Assuming this was the reason for your comment:

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/us-prosecutors-examining-financial-transactions-block-nbc-news-reports-2024-05-01/


How much would it realisticly cost to bring a legal challenge like this to the US supreme court?  $10M? $25M+?


Is there a workflow diagram / visual presentation to explain how this works, what are the steps, who does what, where counterparty risks may be?  Very interesting, but since its bleeding edge it feels like a black box. Would be very helpful to explain this simply & visually to help onboard people.


It would be really interesting if they offered bitcoin payments and options for integrated lightning as a service.  Agreed with the article, they could offer a compelling competition if they focus on the top 10% of common services ftom AWS/Azure.  But won’t be easy.  Reliability will be hard, and handling the influx of demand might be a challenge if they aren’t able to attract the right talent and have capital to back it up through what might br a very tumultuous H2,2024/early 2025.  Will keep an eye on this though, thanks for sharing!


Great to see your posts on NOSTR.  Looking forward to seeing more and bringing others to this space.  Freedom tech will win as the saying goes!


There’s a portion where Putin talks about the US Dollar.  I would listen.


Not enough discussion about the issues in mining; why is there a stratum v2 that’s being proposed / what are the problems it aims to solve, and what are some of the logistical issues that miners must deal with pools (what type of pools, who runs them, how do you even create a pool, how does one attract miners to a pool to begin with, risks, etc.).

Another area i don’t think gets much attention is the process by which code is approved - and actually added to - the next version of bitcoin core.  It’s a bit techy, but very important.  Who are the people / devs that hold the keys to even add / commit code to the next version - who appointed them, how did they get it, what happens if they aren’t around or go rogue.  Commiting code, and merging to a git branch for release to the public requires some level of human intervention.  So…who is that exactly?  And why?  Along these same lines, what’s the plan if github itself becomes corrupt (not so much from a technical perspective, but from a legal or legislative one should an event occur).  There’s a million copies of bitcoin core - got it.  So what do the tens of thousands of node operators do when github is gone - are they all aligned on plan B and C?  Where do bitcoin core devs now go to continue development?

These topics need more coverage, as they underpin how bitcoin works.  The ‘it’s on the internet and open source’ isn’t a good enough explanation - sorry, doesn’t cut it.  Need to dig into the mechanics and logistics.  For anyone that’s managed a software repo or devs - coupled with an extremely dispersed user and dev base - if your code repo becomes hosed, or there no longer exists people who had signing/commit authority to build a new release - you’ve got a big problem on your hands if you dont have a very well thought out plan B and C.

Perhaps there exist mitigations for this and if so, great; what is it?  If not, then this is a risk thst needs to be delt with - quickly.  As bitcoin grows, so too will the responsibility to keep bitcoin core releases….releasing. With hundreds of billions, then trillions at stake, these are not unreasonable questions.

Thanks for reading.  BCB is a great podcast, really enjoy the content.