I wish I wasn’t as skeptical as i am about newcomers on nostr

how do we fix this skepticism cause I know it isn’t just me, lightx amongst many others left a bad taste in our mouths

is NIP-05 still a solution or is there any other way


Bro I'm not running any other accounts, I don't know who it is, but it's not me.


well the spectrum is from full anonymity to full kyc dox

where do you stand?

if full anon, then it's not fixable


Don't trust anyone who is new with a lightning addy or a nip05 or nostr.wine  imo


My feeling exactly brother. Always skeptical 🤷🏾♂


Wish i understood.


that + any sort of nostr lingo + being intentionally oblivious of nostr for attention


I feel like we’re giving them a playbook on how to do it now 💀🤦♂


Why do you wish such a thing?

When you meat someone in life, are you not skeptical? 🧐

Why should nostr be any different?

Existing on nostr does not and should not grant any immediate benefits or credibilities.

Proof of work forever, demand people put in the work to reap rewards.

It’s like that meme where the guy is looking at the other chick, people be attracted to the new nostriches instead of zapping the existing ones.


those wanting to do it will keep on doing it, which is good

it trains the actual folk to tune them out more


🤣🤣Well if they really wanna spend that much time to curate dozens of fake accounts to get 63 sats fuck it


ain’t no way we got the smartest people ever building this n there isn’t a solution that doesn’t stand on any of these extremes


My approach is to be friendly and welcome anyone, but I don't zap them unless I can trust who they are and/or they post something I enjoy enough to zap. I also don't repost new accounts unless I know they're trustworthy, because reposting them feels like me vouching for them.


Keep on lying. 🤥

Trust and reputation is a hard lesson you need to learn.


I like to see them interact for a while too across multiple notes. A bit of Proof of Work. A website, a genuine interest in something, engagement etc. It’s tricky though.


Who was lightx? Seems like an interesting story there.


There are way more issues than that lol


Nostr hospitality’s need to be standardized through community decisions like these :-)


Newcomers are just as skeptical about learning of NOSTR (new tech and very foreign to me still) but curious enough to try it. It is similar to MeWe with no ads but probably much different. I'm here to learn, not to troll and cause mischief.


you can have clients that only support a singular nsec with multiple npubs made upon it i suppose, so the network of alt accounts would be visible and stuck to that one nsec

but that just makes having that one nsec even more risky, if you are running multiple accounts

maybe then you could fork away from that singular nsec, but it would still leave a mark?


Shid posting all over the net for no reason


Just so everyone is aware how I know this comment is a total lie. nostr:npub1rv08dpypet83j7e43twg3u2guc7a987jzt9twvqc2rwvfh3vw6xq4ytcmp

Liars always forget about their lies.


Bootstrap web of trust with organic follows originating from pre existing relationships outside nostr. It doesn't work for most possible newcomers, but if we focus on onboarding people we already know we can grow the network with trust


@theplebfund also

can't be bothered to find the acc


Im not using that one anymore plus it's just a free account, you can't even zap.


Why do I wish to not be skeptical ? bc I remember a time where we used a site or service that would link your twitter to your npub n give your npub a sort of legitimacy amongst other clones (if you’re a public figure) n for me it was an easy way to follow people that I knew on the platform where I was coming from, I’m curious if something like this will be built for people coming from other platforms

I’m not for KYC, I’m an anon as you can tell, I’m just looking for solutions to legitimate problems, it’s not like I’m speaking out of my ass lol you’ve been here long enough to have encountered Cassie, LightX etc


#Yes Snipers like scouts for the new Footbal/soccer ⚽  Team 🫂✨💜 🏆


Be skeptical. It's okay.


🤣🤣 factss


Weaponized shit posting is hard werk


Yah, I just think those methods were ALWAYS intellectually lazy.

Especially with the growth of AI, as you are certainly aware, we need to return to old school methods of determining credibility.

You didnt gain credibility through linking yourself to some past life, you built it through work. Posting. Frog talk. Participating. That’s the way.


this is the way


definitely agree, corndalightx


Smart


Yes

which one is ur fav issue


No zaps until I know the npub is trustworthy 🤷🏾♂


Welcome to Nostr 🫡

hope you enjoy your journey here!


That isn’t really the solution I’m looking for


I’m all in on everyone. I trust them. 😂


Thank you. Likewise and so far, so good.


I like that, one of the reasons why I followed so many people on my first day was because of some tool that allowed us to link our npub to our twitters and I followed a bunch of the people i was already following on twitter, them linking the accounts gave their npubs legitimacy amongst all the other clones of their npubs that were around


Nostrgram was always ahead of its time, one of its “timeline” feed options was to show posts from the follows of those you follow. Instantly widened the scope of quality content.


🫡 gotta remain skeptical


🫡 frfr


I think we’re both right in our own ways because if maybe I had built something in my past life it could’ve contributed in a way like it did for those that I followed bc of their past lives, either way agreed. It is the way 🫡


🫡
Either that or we get scammed


You mean "tanelorian"? 😉


A sound plan.


I like this 👆🏾


won't speak another word without my lawyer present

that means i'm expecting a gift from my lawyer


I welcome, maybe share some navigation tips, but I usually don’t do much past that unless they show motivation to become an active nostrich… usually won’t follow back either unless they post regularly with something that is human


While that may be a decent litmus, its nowhere near foolproof and may filter out the very people who might otherwise have the most passion and staying power on nostr.

For example several members of my meetup group jumped on nostr today. They showed up with profile pics and lnaddresses cause I had been talking their ears off abt nostr for the past year. They simply came prepared and are very passionate. Immediately assuming they're illigitimate cause they came prepared to jump into the community seems backwards to me.


Yah but if you had a following you’d just post your npub on your old social media and people would… follow you to nostr :-)


He’s in the replies 😂
Goes by Uno now.

Scammer. Many npubs. All to separate you from your zaps. He had created an account to “help” others at some point. He would ask for donations and then he would decide who should get them. 🤡
People called him out for that (and the rest)


Good to know. Thx.


Makes sense! I’ll take those tips!


3k followers and maybe 5 actually followed me here 🤣


I'd expect newcomers to be of all stripes.. That's life


It’s in my mute list 😂
nostr:npub1al9gzs93pcj3cuu3vltt7wvnhy8papcpd7ccn6rmna3xs23m6lnqhxsa8k


Sounds like a great ratio!

I doubt nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m's was much better ;-)


Great ratio indeed!

He brought me here n for that I’ll forever be grateful amongst other contribution’s 🫂


That's a great approach 🫂


That’s so funny. Speaking about trust. 🤣🤣


Welcome to Nostr!

Use the hashtag #Plebchain to secure the signal.

Zapped, Boosted, Followed!


I tried to zap the most recent 15 of them and not a single 1 had a wallet setup


I don't lose any sleep over lightx creating a whole new npub and nabbing 21 sats from me 🤷 maybe I'm a bigger baller than I thought


Me too


That was a great tool, too bad it's out of commission afaik


😭 we need that tool for every platform


If they got a lightning address from the start coming from Tik Too I'd be skeptical very skeptical as well. People do like to spin up fake accounts to harvest zaps sadly.


I chaulk it up to a marketing expense, not everyone stopping by your "booth" is coming back. Nobody new in #introductions last night had a lightning address, so it mostly looked like a real opportunity to educate.


New, and looking to learn.  Went down multiple rabbit holes last few days, trying to build a bridge from a Coinbase acct had created Dec ‘21 to move some Bitcoin (inexpensively hopefully) to a Munn or Breez LN wallet (is it a wallet?). A few things super easy, though many verification heavy.  Still not successful so far.  Struggling on the set up.  Still so many questions.  And even my Damus doesn’t seem to display the way described in videos.  Curious.  Let me know if you have some pointers.  Thank you.


Take a look at Alby. https://getalby.com/

I find it almost essential. 🤷🏼♂


I don't apple so damus isn't my thing. nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm is a great option for a lightning wallet.

https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/stacking-sats-noob-journey


How does one get an Alby invite?  It looks required item since first of the year? Thank you 🙏🏻


Didn’t realize they had gone to invite only. There’s a “get notified” option for when registration opens back up. Likely the best bet.

If you’re just looking for a quick start up for nip-05 and zap access, log into nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg with your current nsec.