Interesting thread on faraday pouch testing to completely hide your phone from cell towers, which can triangulate you even when your phone is off:

https://x.com/mattblaze/status/1459317933566578690


Do any of them work?


The thread goes into this. Apparently the mission darkness ones are quite good.


I reckon theres a mkt for jeans/pants with faraday pockets/sleeves


this should be in nostr


its on the internet, its the second best we can do


its really easy to hide cellphone from towers, the problem is that then it become a useless brick or a desktop-like mini device to connect to usb tethering to connect to the internet... nothing that fulfill the feature of a smartphone without being tracked... and thats because smartphones are tracking devices.


would buy this


Yeah me too!


its ok to miss calls


true…


i think they developed a clothing line to help activists hide from facial recognition technology


I have one of these and my phone shows 0 bars/cellular connection when I take it out. https://slnt.com/collections/faraday-phone-sleeves/products/faraday-cage-sleeves-for-phones?variant=18335582978145


nonchalant is the way to go


nice


You can add infrared lights to the bill of a hat so that it blinds cameras but isn’t visible to the naked eye. There are videos online where people show off a proof of concept, but I’m not sure there’s enough of a market to justify a whole line though.


We need one that fits entire cars now. The amount of surveillance tech that comes standard in vehicles today is borderline criminal.


Triangulate when the phone is off? Bullshit.


just gotta avoid buying shitcoin vehicles


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


nostr:npub1qdjn8j4gwgmkj3k5un775nq6q3q7mguv5tvajstmkdsqdja2havq03fqm7 mentions 2014 and earlier are not guaranteed to have telemetry


Depends on the MFG for sure. Ill have to find the bill for yall when I have time


You need to drive an old car!

And new cars should not have all this shit.

That is the main Solition.

Same on Phones, first you need a trusted device, than you can add a shield.

You can drive an old Car but i know no Smartphone i fully suggest.

I would suggest to use a mobile pc instead, but this is not comfortable, because of this i use a Google Pixel with Graphene OS and use flightmode but WLAN on.


98db is very impressive, and coming from Matt Blaze, I trust that it's legit.

I can only see the tweet you linked to and not the whole thread. Not sure if that's true for everyone who doesn't have an account on X or just me.

We need to get Matt on Nostr or ActivityPub or any site that doesn't muck around with the ability to see a thread of posts.


Can the pants mesh network to other pants in a tor like fashion so I can still get texts?


No because you can't make sure that the phone is of without removing the batteries which are glued in between sheets of glass..

Furthermore it could be remotely turned on again.


The tinfoil hat that actually works.


Interesting thread on faraday pouch testing to completely hide your phone from cell towers, which can triangulate you even when your phone is off:

https://x.com/mattblaze/status/1459317933566578690


So the towers can triangulate you even when your phone is turned off, only if it’s not ACTUALLY turned off. I am understanding this correctly?


Yes. It might not actually be turned off even if the screen is „black“.


Additionally, take a look into apples find my network and googles equivalent.


I think there is conceptual “off” and then there is physically “off”.   I guess the insinuation is that concept “off” may just be the device placed into a very low power mode.


I actually developed a way to avoid this without using a pouch. Leave your phone at home... 🤪


….even iPhone has a mode where it appears “off” but is still locatable using the Find My iPhone feature.


I've been using a faraday bag for my phone everyday for over the last year. I can say it can still be used if you download the content first and you have a pair of wired earphones/headphones. The cell connections will be blocked and you'll still be able to consume content. There are also bags that have a small opening to access the screen. Altough I think this defeats the purpose of the farday cage.


I'd like to see more information about that, too.

Seems unlikely, as communicating on the cellular network takes quite a bit of energy. So even if "off" is really "low power mode", I'd like to see some experiments that verify what's happening.

This is one of the reasons why the older phones or few available current models with removable batteries may be valuable.


what is the point if you gonna remove it from that faraday bag in order to use it


but, at this point, just use a old thinkpad and take out all the antennas and the wifi card... just use a device that is not designed to track


Shut up spook.


Spooky say what?


Don’t cry spook🙂


It's legit and baked into all BLE (Bluetooth low energy) device hardware.


I agree, but the thinkerpad is probably more combersome. I can go anywhere with my faraday bag (wich fits in my pocket)


bag only opened when away from home. phone never knows where you live


Anyone a uses  a #missiondarkness things stuff what is review of a it you like? #opsec #privacy #faraday #asknostr #stealth

https://mosequipment.com/


Going to take your advice about not holding my phone outside and clearly no one I call will help me. So it's pointless.


What about it? Are you suggesting that Apple devices are en masse not fully turning off, for the sake of “Find my iPhone”?


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


Worked yesterday not carrying phone outside. Having to walk by sheriff's dept now because of Ocala PD's non stop bullying.


This is my faraday bag i use to hide my passport and id and another one for my cellphone. Korean POWER via ice cream!
 https://image.nostr.build/ee1c98113f95a777e5598979afa5bdc7d3f542857e29f5af0ceac17edbc885e1.jpg


Interesting thread on faraday pouch testing to completely hide your phone from cell towers, which can triangulate you even when your phone is off:

https://x.com/mattblaze/status/1459317933566578690