nostr:npub16kvvffgn36flynkzv43yath7samfqpcgaacjhlk5wlqm32dz85ssywr053 AFAIK, the "non-techies" here consists of one person, Weizenbaum's secretary, who never confirmed the story, which also has a Weizenbaumian shade of sexism to it ("that little lady couldn't tell she was talking to a computer! Women, amirite?"). There's a lot about it in Clair Evans' BROAD BAND, IIRC.