which is a stupid idea considering the pedigree of its inventors, whose legacy literally defines the entire space of IT (most advanced network and UI researcher Rob Pike, inventor of the first replacement for assembler and BASIC, Ken Thompson, and the guy who built the most efficient javascript runtime engine, Robert Griesemer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V8_(JavaScript_engine)
my point still stands, google doesn't fund such a cult-like marketing campaign for Go unlike Mozilla who are clearly inserting their narrative into everything
i also wonder at how you can be so hostile to google and not also with the "nonprofit" that used to be netscape, the worst internet browser of all time
which company makes the best web browser tech these days? oh yeah, google...
mainly because of Griesemer
and his talent went to work in the most hidden parts of Go
i curse google for not funding more marketing and development for Go because making GUIs with go is still a pain in the ass
that is the most clear red flag that Google doesn't care about your development work, and why they don't promote this little gem of a language like Oracle and Mozilla do with theirs (kotlin/scala/java/rust)
Rust is even *worse*, a learning curve not worth the trouble
I may or may not not have used to work at Mozilla, and can tell you it has been a shit show for more than a decade
My hostility to golang merely due to its creator is not pragmatic but oh well.
Fuck Google with a chainsaw
yeah, but also fuck every government registered corporation, this is not a criteria for specific distrust
all of them are suspicious
Google is evil
netscape is evil, cisco is evil, microsoft is evil, samsung is evil, xiaomi is evil, apple is evil, ibm is evil
not giving much differentiation here, why does google get extra special treatment? android phones? what makes you selectively abhor one tentacle over another?
The privacy angle. It’s disgusting
mozilla's still enabling DRM bullshit, and they have been caught out hundreds of times not actually respecting privacy, still not seeing why i should hate google *more* than mozilla (formerly netscape)
i'm in this industry for decades, they all suck, and mainly because tech is a branch of military intelligence, and open source is militia intelligence
also regarding that, another "hero" of privacy is apple, who make a big fuss about their supposed privacy features, while they monopolise spying on you
the whole thing is theatre, none of these corporations are anything more than fronts for government spooks
You should just accept that some of us are not pragmatic
Also, I hate golangs’s syntax
what do you mean by pragmatic?
means are worth the end
or
focused on practical concerns
i'm on board with the latter, and rage against the former
what do you hate about the syntax?
be specific
the function signatures? the package management system? the variable declaration syntax? the modules files?
i strongly suspect it's not the curly brackets but i haven't observed what your preference is, i guess if you are a python/php dev then ok, but that model has some serious deficiencies too
JSON to struct syntax looks like trash and is so verbose
Everything in the current project I am on is incredibly verbose. Duplication is the way. Maybe this is the project designer’s fault?
I could build this system in python in 1/10th the amount of code
yeah encoding/json is my most unfavourite, and the struct tags and the whole problem around json is a big hassle, that's partly why so much of my efforts this last 6 months have been involving json
you can't actually use my library with standard JSON interfaces either, because that syntax assumes you don't care about generating memory garbage and the use of stupid strings
i prefer go's approach to structs but json is literally diametrically opposed design philosophy
Sadly, 99% of the internet is “stupid strings” 😂
indeed, and i'm not a web dev i'm a server dev, my early background with Go was actually forking btcd (which is why you will sometimes see me raging against that dumpster fire)
anyway, that wasn't even the problem with my recent work on a nostr relay, and fiatjaf has made a big note on his go-nostr repo alerting to the fact that his code does not handle goroutine lifecycles properly
This touches something about Bitcoin that I love and no one ever talks about. Non government approved corporations in the future. We'll still need the organizing principle that led to corporations, but now we can organize production without approval
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