First attempt: get to a callback prompt menu. No idea how that happened; wish I could find it again as my brain stalled and I hung up. Second attempt: DMV: expert system rattles off a phone number that sounds like it might be useful. Me: Can you repeat that number? DMV: gives me a sermon about occupational licensing. DMV: How can I help you? Me: Not like that! DMV: repeats sermon on occupational licensing.