The text below is the complete reason why Elon and the ID Card fanatics are 100% wrong.
The UK ID card is not what you think it is. It is not a simple identity document like your passport or driving license. It is in fact, a database backed control grid and the fulfilment of Orwells nightmare.
You may have heard that legislation creating compulsory ID Cards passed a crucial stage in the House of Commons. You may feel that ID cards are not something to worry about, since we already have Photo ID for our Passport and Driving License and an ID Card will be no different to that. What you have not been told is the full scope of this proposed ID Card, and what it will mean to you personally.
The proposed ID Card will be different from any card you now hold. It will be connected to a database called the NIR, (National Identity Register)., where all of your personal details will be stored. This will include the unique number that will be issued to you, your fingerprints, a scan of the back of your eye, and your photograph. Your name, address and date of birth will also obviously be stored there.
There will be spaces on this database for your religion, residence status, and many other private and personal facts about you. There is unlimited space for every other details of your life on the NIR database, which can be expanded by the Government with or without further Acts of Parliament.
By itself, you might think that this register is harmless, but you would be wrong to come to this conclusion. This new card will be used to check your identity against your entry in the register in real time, whenever you present it to 'prove who you are'.
Every place that sells alcohol or cigarettes, every post office, every pharmacy, and every Bank will have an NIR Card Terminal, (very much like the Chip and Pin Readers that are everywhere now) into which your card can be 'swiped' to check your identity. Each time this happens, a record is made at the NIR of the time and place that the Card was presented. This means for example, that there will be a government record of every time you withdraw more than £99 at your branch of Nat West, who now demand ID for these transactions. Every time you have to prove that you are over 18, your card will be swiped, and a record made at the NIR. Restaurants and off licenses will demand that your card is swiped so that each receipt shows that they sold alcohol to someone over 18, and that this was proved by the access to the NIR, indemnifying them from prosecution.
Private businesses are going to be given access to the NIR Database. If you want to apply for a job, you will have to present your card for a swipe. If you want to apply for a London Underground Oyster Card,or a supermarket loyalty card, or a driving license you will have to present your ID Card for a swipe. The same goes for getting a telephone line or a mobile phone or an internet account.
Oyster, DVLA, BT and Nectar (for example) all run very detailed databases of their own. They will be allowed access to the NIR,just as every other business will be. This means that each of these entities will be able to store your unique number in their database, and place all your travel, phone records, driving activities and detailed shopping habits under your unique NIR number. These databases, which can easily fit on a storage device the size of your hand, will be sold to third parties either legally or illegally. It will then be possible for a non governmental entity to create a detailed dossier of all your activities. Certainly, the government will have clandestine access to all of them, meaning that they will have a complete record of all your movements, from how much and when you withdraw from your bank account to what medications you are taking, down to the level of what sort of bread you eat - all accessible via a single unique number in a central database.
This is quite a significant leap from a simple ID Card that shows your name and face.
Most people do not know that this is the true character and scope of the proposed ID Card. Whenever the details of how it will work are explained to them, they quickly change from being ambivalent towards it.
The Government is going to COMPEL you to enter your details into the NIR and to carry this card. If you and your children want to obtain or renew your passports, you will be forced to have your fingerprints taken and your eyes scanned for the NIR, and an ID Card will be issued to you whether you want one or not. If you refuse to be fingerprinted and eye scanned, you will not be able to get a passport. Your ID Card will, just like your passport, not be your property. The Home Secretary will have the right to revoke or suspend your ID at any time, meaning that you will not be able to withdraw money from your Bank Account, for example, or do anything that requires you to present your government issued ID Card.
The arguments that have been put forwarded in favour of ID Cards can be easily disproved. ID Cards WILL NOT stop terrorists; every Spaniard has a compulsory ID Card as did the Madrid Bombers. ID Cards will not 'eliminate benefit fraud', which in comparison, is small compared to the astronomical cost of this proposal, which will be measured in billions according to the LSE (London School of Economics). This scheme exists solely to exert total surveillance and control over the ordinary free British Citizen,and it will line the pockets of the companies that will create the computer systems at the expense of your freedom, privacy and money.
If you did not know the full scope of the proposed ID Card Scheme before and you are as unsettled as I am at what it really means to you, to this country and its way of life, I urge you to email or photocopy this and give it to your friends and colleagues and everyone else you think should know and who cares. The Bill has proceeded to this stage due to the lack of accurate and complete information on this proposal being made public. Together & Hand to hand, we can inform the entire nation if everyone who receives this passes it on.
Frances Stonor Saunders
haha i thought i was going to have to accelerate my plans to evacuate until i realised that is from 2006 😃
I think it's still very relevant, not only for obvious reasons, but also, it was the labour party that first proposed the NIR. Since then, the UK hadn't elected a prime minister from the labour party until... This year.
Haha yup a revoked law. Historical news.
India already have such an ID called Aadhaar. It’s a nightmare already. You can not do anything without it.
It’s blantantly misused by state. Personal data has leaked many time but state simply refuses that no evidence of leaks even though it’s available in market for anyone to purchase.
What i feel is that evetone knows that privacy is important but to a normal personal there is no strong argument of why such centralised control of private data is problematic.
Same is the reason why not everyone is jumping into bitcoin boat.
Super insightful; full marks.
The totalitarian tiptoe: The physical ID card is a compliance segway to a completely automated surveillance, data collection and control regime.
Re Aadhaar
“We have introduced facial authentication last year, in October 2021 which was also in response to the COVID pandemic, where um… touch-less biometric… the need for a touch-less biometric was felt”
Even stumbles over his words because he knows COVID fear enabled the facial recognition, not COVID facts.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5iOAcjRvZo
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Facial recognition is another havoc on the Indian citizens. It is being forced onto everyone who travels via air.
Soon it will be there for train/road-toll cameras etc.
Police in many states is already using it at every protest to identify the people and target them later using any selective application of law.
We are importing all these concepts from countries like China who doesn’t care about citizens and where state is above everything.
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TLDR.
Elon sucks. I agree with this fully.
Vaccine passports and CBDC was and still is pushed heavily by Tony B.lair and technocratic fascist blood lines and minions here in 🇬🇧 Can see Fedimints and Cashu really resolving local issues though.
Any of y'all Bri-ish? FFS, stop this...
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I like what David Knight says regularly. "The servants want to know everything about you will you know nothing about them.".
They can come to your house and force their garbage onto you. but you can't go to their house to hold them accountable for their actions or lack of actions?
Which is why I started an Enctyption room on here. If you want to learn how to start obfuscating and encrypting join it! We must do everything to prevent the prying eyes.
I use PGP for Email. OMEMO for XMPP and what ever this uses with my key.
This is untrue. There is no compulsory UK ID card.
bro, the sheeple are sleeping so deeply it's scary. I'm sharing !
They did the same thing in the USA: it's called Real ID. Two states declined to participate in this federal program, and a few others give you the option to opt out.
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The issue with so-called first world countries is their strict application of the law.
Once stupid laws are instituted, you have very little wiggle room around them.
With all their downsides, third-world countries (which also pass idiotic laws) have much bigger wiggle room. A lot of these rules can't even be enforced.
Ideal places to live are areas with high standards of living *and* enough wiggle room.
Few understand the power of this.
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I would suggest that it would be easier for them to use fingerprint recognition but the wheels of bureaucracy would want the cards to create the justification for yet another department to issue, replace and confiscate
You’ve missed the point. It is the database that is the root threat. Fingerprint or ID Card doesn’t matter.
I get that, obviously one wants as little privacy intrusion as possible
You guys still call yourselves 'citizens' over there in Britain? 😁
is this database in the room with you now?
It’s in the room with you, in your NHS, INGSOC.
Tldr by ChatGPT:
The argument criticizes the UK’s proposed ID card system, claiming it is not merely an identification tool but a comprehensive surveillance mechanism that threatens individual privacy. Unlike a passport or driver’s license, the ID card would link to the National Identity Register (NIR), storing extensive personal data such as biometric information, address, and potentially sensitive details like religion. Each ID use, whether at a bank, pharmacy, or job application, would be recorded, creating a centralized log of individuals’ actions, accessible to both government and private entities. This could lead to unauthorized tracking, data sales, and loss of privacy. Critics argue the system will not prevent terrorism or fraud but rather grants the government sweeping control over citizens’ lives. The author urges public awareness and resistance, suggesting the scheme’s advancement stems from a lack of transparency.