Oddbean new post about login | logout When do we put a global algorithm for Nostr moderation ???
Never. Too many self declared moderators and snitchbots already
Twitter and Mastodon fags are ruining nostr They should go back to their safe places
Came across a handful from there that I actually dont mind (have acct there as well), but a lot a the douche baggery does seem to be more and more. The mostr bridge idea was interesting, but not panning out so well
Why not ??? It is a super good idea to connect with more people and more different platforms bro
Yea yea you me🍻
Onion only relays. They're too lazy to figure that out.
@NunyaBidness should issue an apology for that post based on lies, but he won't. And @fiatjaf has been slowly destroying his creation for a long time already (the Thought Police NIP is from last year), so we better start thinking of something better, something even more decentralized.
Oh my mistake. I only saw your post. Didnt realize it was in response to mr safe relays here.😔 These mofos trying to twitterize this place hardcore. Wtf man
Wait so AM is the good guy or bad guy?
Im just a raccoon bro 🦝
A good Racoon, right?
It depends on who looks at it... from my view: a good raccoon
So fiatjeff basically wants nostr to be like Twitter and be safe?
I will always have the possibility of having my own relay and I am sure that not everyone will support this decision, not connecting to this type of relay should be enough, it just depends on me… This is Nostr
Regardless of censorship, Relay operators will soon realize that administrative controls necessary and this open free 4 all is terrible technology wise.
Pay to play. Like a buck to post as much as you want.
People freaked out and ledt when gab wanted to charge $5 a month for uploads
xmr.rocks is like 45 cents. They use nerostr. Can code your own in 10 min.
Most users here are linux admins?
No idea. I'm gonna stay on free relays till someone spams the living shit out of them. Their web page says 103 registrations. I don't think they have an onion though. Maybe you can spin one up to make it gold standard.
I got two relays running now
People are paying?
Oh no, i would never charge. This is a public service
Symbolic fee to keep spammers out.
Ditto solves that lol
How does it work? One time payment like nerostr?
Adding @Karl Ditto dont do the one time payments but as an admin, you can blacklist npubs and have better control over who uses your instance and even censor words or spammer characters
That works too, if you have the patience. Pay to play scales better though.
Oh. I don't think that's enough to fix the problem tbh.
Its a start. Better than the wild west now. Eventually nostr will need to be like Mastodon/Fediverse to survive with mass adoption
I don't think it matters. They just need to take out a shit ton of ads. Jack Dorsey needs to pick a couple clients and pay Elon Musk 6 Gorillian dollars to shill it under every single post.
Have ads for native services like PornHub did with Chaturbate. No need for mass adoption this way.
Free market fixes this
Lol Are you serious? I am talking about the software for relays and how bad it is currently. Terrible design decisions were made. Ditto will come doon and make it better for admins to fight spam and block bad users or words and ket relays host their own uploads. You should run your own relay and you will see how bad it is and the need for controls and why nostr is bad in its current free4all form Sure. Everything looks cool from the user side but its a ticking time bomb not made to scale
I mean that if you don't like a relay, you can always look for another one with what you want and if it doesn't exist... why not create it??? and if he is successful why wouldn't others support him monetarily even??? and so on with each tool... from the software part if I don't have mastery... I'm just trying to apply ANCAP to daily life
The problem is that relays all end up mixed together. When you post, it goes to all the relays you subscribe to. If someone shares or comments , it spreads or relays share posts somehow. Nostr is designed to be a big melting pot mess unless everyone on a relay only connects to that relay to interact.
I understand and what is the problem there ???
The database grows very quickly in size and spammers add on top of that. You wont be able to easily isolate posts for a relay or community because the clients blast each post to your relays
Yeap, you’re right, nuking the relay would solve the problem temporarily and put everything at ease, but I think it's enough
Always seemed solid to me. Think he fuckin with the dude