If you've been here for a while, and have created a lot of notes, remember that relays will delete old notes.

To keep them, use my Backup service to download copy of them, you will be able to restore them later, it also updates your notes everywhere.

Backup everything: https://nostryfied.online


I need to stop being lazy and do this

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Would you entertain the idea of being able to download your notes without rebroadcasting?


Dudes a legend.

Follow zap and listen.

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It is coming in my note extension I recently built for NostrNet


I appreciate you so much my fren 🫂💜🙌


I like the idea that old notes get deleted


Deletion is not guaranteed, it depends on each relay. They can even deleted from relay and keep it offline. So don't rely on that.


It's a pleasure my friend 🤍🕊


Oh okay, good to know. Thank you.


This is a important tool !
Much more than backup, make others relays see your notes gives more relevancy to your contents! Very nice !


Interesting. When I first joined Nostr— one of the main reasons I considered joining was because I was under the impression my notes would belong to me as long as there were functional relays. Everything belongs to the sea— I suppose.


Estoy haciendolo en este momento 💜💜🫶🫶


Your keys, your notes; only you can post, and only you can read your DMs because they are encrypted.

However, whatever you post publicly is public data and is available to everyone, it open protocol.

You can download copy of them and broadcast it to some other relay.


yes— understanding “relays” is the true key.


Is this like retweeting (re-noting?) on a different relay?


When I joined, I had a lot of misconceptions also.

Nostr is mostly about anti-censorship. And even that, it’s not always true.

Nostr does not guarantee privacy.

Your notes are out in the open, the pictures you upload, etc…if you are not using a VPN, you are giving away your IP address to the relays owners…

The relays have policies that are not known. So no one knows what will happen to your data, how long it will be kept, etc…


Oof, doesn’t sound too appealing to me :/


So, basically, the goal is that you should never have to worry about these things.

Some developments are happening in the NostrDB (database) space and elsewhere. All these backups will be automated after that.

But yeah, it's nice to know what's happening under the hood. 😂


So, by using this service I post my current profile data to a ton of relays I don't even know about--including my lightning address.

Let's say I later change my profile data (lightning address). Unless I use your service again, stale profile data (lightning address) will remain on those relays I don't even know about (i.e., that I do not publish to)?

Hm


Well first of all welcome back, we missed you here 🫂💜

That comes with the package of an open access protocol. You should not post anything here that it’s not public literally.

Traditional social media is giving your data to one entity.

Nostr is giving your data to everyone 😂

I feel like privacy is not compatible with anti-censorship.

Example :
if I wanted to have control over my data, let’s say that the data is stored only in my relay. If I censor the relay, then I have succeeded in censoring the individual.

To prevent that, nostr is broadcasting your notes to several relays. And the consequence, you don’t have any control on how your data is handled.


So you need your own relay?


I appreciate all of you. I teach reading but always chat with kids & parents about coding & tech in general. Another reason I joined Nostr is to learn— the protocol is fascinating— even if I’m a fish out of water.


We appreciate having you here too ! 💜🫂 and we are all learning.


If you've been here for a while, and have created a lot of notes, remember that relays will delete old notes.

To keep them, use my Backup service to download copy of them, you will be able to restore them later, it also updates your notes everywhere.

Backup everything: https://nostryfied.online


thank you!


I value privacy over anti-censorship on a personal level and I think that’s why nostr often doesn’t sit quite right with me (evident in the fact that this is my fourth time here 😅)

I’m tempted back because it’s a fun place but I have no doubt I’ll delete my account again, whether tomorrow or two years from now. Not that it makes a difference in privacy as my notes will never be deleted, nor my pictures.


Thanks for this. Backup of follows would be great too - I somehow nuked all my follows recently.


I’m on the same page too, between privacy and anti-censorship. I’ll choose privacy, any day.

It’s a fun game for me 😂 to discover your account randomly each time.


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maybe deleting old posts is actually a good thing


or make friends with people you trust— who know how to operate one. The more devs who use the protocol a diverse community will grow into all kinds of usages such as ZBD.


Ha! Made me laugh. It’s fun for me as well to come back to something new each time. Then again, I’m not me if I’m not inconsistent, impulsive, and fickle 🥲


What if I already have my own relay backing up all of my notes, would this be of any benefit to me?
And what are the downsides?
I'm just asking this after I have already done it and don't know if I should regret it or rejoice. 🤣


Or use a service that handles all the abstractions, so that a non-tech user can run their own relay. (http://relaying.io)

I do want the community to be bigger and diversified here that for sure, but through ZBD.

ZBD represents all the values that led me to escape traditional social media.

1- You do not have access to your private key, so you are stuck using ZBD, and cannot switch to another client. If ZBD had your private key, meaning it can see your DMs for example, write notes on behalf, etc,..so not your key not your account.

2- ZBD requests location access, does not accept you using VPN to play games, and asks you to activate tracking. So there is data collection mecanisms behind this! And maybe, you data is sold to data brokers (that I’m not sure about, hence the maybe)


You are a phoenix that reincarnates each X period of time 😎💜🫂


nice try, fed


It uses public key to fetch these events. That's already public data.


Thank you Iefan!


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.


I understand your concerns. My hope was a diverse community would emerge sooner than later & I joined for similar reasons— but now all my notes are at the mercy of relays anyway! I’ve seen people create new npubs to check things out in ZBD. I think it’s fun to explore the protocol & maybe devs can make it possible to secure keys in ways that will satisfy the concerns you mentioned— security, choice & the autonomy that is very important to the Bitcoin community.


Notes do get deleted, people.

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Only future will tell ! 💜🫂 I feel like we are just talking about the negative here 😂 on a more positive note, the community here is amazing and open to discussion always !


I agree!! Chatting with you felt very positive— expression brings clarity & a breath of fresh air with the right people. Thank you very much! 💜


I enjoyed this discussion very much too ! So thank you 🫂💜


nice. try. fed.


If you've been here for a while, and have created a lot of notes, remember that relays will delete old notes.

To keep them, use my Backup service to download copy of them, you will be able to restore them later, it also updates your notes everywhere.

Backup everything: https://nostryfied.online


nice. I don't know why I would need it...but the download and broadcast worked great...have 100MB of worthless data now saved....coz. I could with this tool.  great implementation.


For around how long do the large & popular relays save the data?


Zapped by rustypuppy


This is pretty cool. I'd love to automate this, and integrate it client-side. The user could hook-up something like IPFS, Syncthing or S3 - or pay for a subscription, not to worry about it.


Omg thank you so much for building this and thanks for letting us know. Mind blown! 🤯🤯🤯


🤯🤯🤯

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"Know thyself." Good reveal.
🙏😁💜🫂😆👍


this is great, thank you sir 🫡


Tried this out with my very small number of events…works perfectly. Thanks.


Tears in rain. I like that.


What if we have our own relay on Umbrel? Then we’re safe, yeah? (Am just a noob, asking for a friend)


Bladerunner quote. One of my favorite movies.


great tool


Great tool !

Was cool see my data was in relays that I didn't send.

In one of the upcoming versions, you could include the option to select which relays we want to send to.


It's a pleasure 🫡


Alternatively (or, in addition), you can run your own private relay and include it in your clients. Then everything you do on Nostr will also update your private relay and you'll effectively have a backup of it all unless you manually delete it.

Umbrel makes this super easy: https://apps.umbrel.com/app/nostr-relay

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Looking forward to backing up all my notes. Even my shitty ones. Because they’re mine. Thanks nostr:npub1cmmswlckn82se7f2jeftl6ll4szlc6zzh8hrjyyfm9vm3t2afr7svqlr6f


This is the way 😂😂


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It’s easy and all you need is your npub. No priv key required.


Any way to easily backup your follows/followers?


It will backup everything, you can restore it later. We are automating it very soon.


Thank you!


If you've been here for a while, and have created a lot of notes, remember that relays will delete old notes.

To keep them, use my Backup service to download copy of them, you will be able to restore them later, it also updates your notes everywhere.

Backup everything: https://nostryfied.online


Haz el backup de tus notas en esta Web 👇

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Yeah I need to remove the delete feature on my relay


Hello, Fren nostr:npub1cmmswlckn82se7f2jeftl6ll4szlc6zzh8hrjyyfm9vm3t2afr7svqlr6f...

Have you relocated this service to another domain name?

Does it still exist?

Thanks.🙏🏻😃💜🫂💖😆👍

Thanks.🙏🏻😃💜🫂💖😆👍


This the new domain:
https://nostrsync.live/

You can also use it in main NostrNet.work app.


Thanks!🙏🏻😃💜🫂💖😆👍


So, I've tried repeatedly to do a backup. It reaches a point at ~16,679 notes, the progress bar looks full, the relays report "done," and it crashes every time.🤔😢

I'm attempting this using Graphene OS and Vanadium browser...

Perhaps it needs some particular permissions I haven't understood?😳


It probably happened because your browser ran out of RAM. It doesn't occur on Chrome and Brave on Android. You should try it on a PC; it should work fine. In the next update, I will start breaking it into smaller chunks, which should solve this problem.


Thanks again; I'll try on a Mac.🙏🏻🫂💜💖😆👍


You are welcome, if possible don't use Safari use some chromium browser it seems like you have a lot of data 😅😂


Frens don't let frens use Safari...🤣😆


Is it working?