Oddbean

People still have to connect to your relay to get your feed. Hosting your own relay will literally never be meaningful competition for broader network relays as a service. For the simple reason that no one wants to run their own server. This has basically been a truism of the internet since forever. We could all just as easily say Google Drive and email will never be a viable service because everyone can run their own cloud storage and email server for relatively cheap. But that clearly doesn’t happen that way.

Why do you think centralized relays are better than 10000’s of personal ones? A relay doesn’t need to connect to everyone for it to scale. Just as the lightning protocol, you don’t need to run 1000’s of channels for it to be useful. Are you really arguing for a centralized Google Drive on decentralized Nostr? Something is not right with that 😆

Then you failed to understand my point. Or are just strawmanning a ridiculous version of it to get some sort of “win” by making it look like I’m trying to suggest something retarded. Either way, it kinda feels like you aren’t interested in a real conversation but instead really want this to be a Twitter pissing contest, which I have no interest in. If I’m wrong on that assumption then that’s my bad. But I don’t see this likely going anywhere positive. So I’ll just say I hope you have a good day. 👍🏻😁

Lol. I’m not doing anything like that. Stop being so defensive. Point is you cannot create a centralized marketplace like Amazon on Nostr, it is too expensive and no one is going to pay $50 to join 10 relays to see the same stuff being sold. Peace 😁

Don’t think I’m being defensive but maybe I am. Just not interested in countering a position I don’t hold and I felt I was pretty clear. For example: “Point is you cannot create a centralized marketplace like Amazon on Nostr” I completely agree, but I never suggested this in even a remote sense and I don’t quite know how you pulled that from any of my notes. Glad there’s no hard feelings though and hope you enjoy the thread. Some great ideas being shared, imo (which was the point 😉)

Pas Jeff s'il vous plaît de plus il est officiellement sur nostr son outil Amazon tout comme celui de Larry est énorme financièrement mais enfreint plus Google Méta les données personnelles malgré toutes les règles RGPD DSA MICA ...ils sont très fort sur aws et Ishare

They already say it’s too complicated because of keys and relays. Imagine asking people to also run their own relay. Not to mention the security nightmare of people who don’t know what they’re doing running publicly accessible internet services.

Eux même ils ont commencé à faire payer le cloud qui fut gratuit depuis un certain temps .. allez jeter un coup dans les nouvelles conditions d'utilisations de nos 5 grands de la Tech y compris la branche Ishare de Larry ...Depuis Obama et la dernière crise notre Monde a trop changé vers un autre où les États et dirigeants n'ont plus rien à dire en termes d'orientation...🙍