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 If y'all want people to use DVMs more.. Need to educate about what it takes.  Does it take adding a new relay?  I believe it does.   But I forgot the name of the DVM relay, so *all the DVMs I try in nostrudel or amethyst, it never responds..  Amethyst doesn't even show them.  Anyone remember the name of the 'special' DVM relay?  Are there more than one?

#asknostr 
 I don’t even know where to find DVMs is really the problem, imo. 
 Amethyst and Nostrudel have them in the menus.  But for them to show up or work, gotta find what relay they're living on.  Good Bots always need their own relays..  
 @Don't ₿elieve the Hype 🦊 is the DVM pro and maybe can help 🤔 
 It's a @NostrAIDVM bot. You DM it. 
 But you have to use the right kind of DM. 
 Oh haha, woah I had them in my follow list from like a year ago.. haha!

Yeah tho, there is a relay somewhere too.. for using the DVMs from inside apps. 
 Ah, interesting. 
 Oh you should be able to to both NIP04 and giftwrapped 
 Hmm. 
 Oh, I think I was using https://nostrrr.com/relay/dvms.f7z.io before, but it looks to be down now.  I do have a bunch of inbox and outbox relays, only 2 of my inboxes are open to public write I just noticed, is there a list of DVM npubs I can add to my relay?.  Amethyst  only shows one DVM, but in the past I've seen much more than that (when dvms.f7z.io was online)..  So it's not even discovering them. 
 Ya, it was already on global.  I only see one DVM, it's "Currently Popular Notes"  Oh, ya know what?  I also removed all "general relays" from amethyst.  I wonder if that is a factor.. 
 nah, I got rid of em and not lookin' back :) pure outbox ⚡ if that's the reason, then I will go figure out why nostrudel doesn't get a response (it does list more DVMs).  Now that I've looked at noogle I realize there are a TON of dvms, and finding one that's actually online is just a sort through the announcement age? 🤔 
 Yeah, this sounds like a job for a nip51 list crafting script .. make a list of the recent ones, and then amethyst should outbox em when you switch to that list  💥 
 Maybe I should add a page to https://dvmdash.live that sorts DVMs by when they last did a job. Technically you can only know if a DVM is online if it responds to a job request 
 Maybe I should add a page to https://dvmdash.live that sorts DVMs by when they last did a job. Technically you can only know if a DVM is online if it responds to a job request