I cannot connect to these 2 with my Mullvad VPN on. But this reminds me of Tor browser for Windows advising not to use VPN simultaneously unless you’re an advanced user. Which, to me, implies complex manual configuration. 

Not sure if that complexity is involved with Orbot + Primal iOS + Tor relays. https://image.nostr.build/abce4d2305e6aa2fb1f2037baf18231edb6a6765253f42cd1daf441b6e27dc20.jpg