I cannot connect to these 2 with my Mullvad VPN on. But this reminds me of Tor browser for Windows advising not to use VPN simultaneously unless you’re an advanced user. Which, to me, implies complex manual configuration. 

Not sure if that complexity is involved with Orbot + Primal iOS + Tor relays. https://image.nostr.build/abce4d2305e6aa2fb1f2037baf18231edb6a6765253f42cd1daf441b6e27dc20.jpg  

 Tor relays doesn’t work with mulvad ! Only orbot 

 Ahh oops, that’s obvious in hindsight. I was just helping Miljan troubleshoot with his any VPN question.