There have been many people in my life who I had the ability to help and they would not allow themselves to be helped.

Sometimes that fucks with me a bit.

Like it was fully within my sphere of influence to fix their problems, but they just straight up categorically rejected the help in favor of a path of continued self destruction.

I guess it’s normal.

We never really do anything until we’re ready.


Yes comrade!


So many of my college friends were like that.

It's also rough if you were in the muck with them and got your shit together and then all the sudden they treated you differently because you put in the work.


Very true in my case. Especially in Vegas.


When the student is ready, the teacher will appear


Accepting help is hard


I think often about those I might have been able to help and arbitrary choices made for an outsized difference in outcomes. I was so close to being any of those friends I’ve lost and because I slept in, or honored a shift start time, or just didn’t go out that night made all the difference. For better or worse.  I’m alive and some of them are not.


I am one of these.


You can only help someone only when they ask for help. You need to count with the butterfly effect. Maybe you decide by yourself what is best for someone else, and you are probably right from the present point of view.

But the butterfly effect of that little help it might bring destruction, while the current destruction path might end up in salvation. Impossible to know and that is why we shouldn't interfere with other people destiny if they don't ask for it


The intellectual honesty and personal intraspection required to truly see the horror of the fiat system is a hard path to walk even for seasoned #Bitcoin ers. They'll come to it one way or another.


I watched a video cast today that said something very interesting. Something along the lines of letting people be their own hero. You can be that guiding light, an offer, a hand, but they have to be the one to want to reach.

One of the talked about examples, was a woman who was in an abusive relationship and was also caught up on drugs. The sister said when you are ready, I am your person.

Eventually the woman called and said "are you still my person"

"I am putting my shoes on now."

I guess opening the door a crack for them helps.


You are so in love with yourself


This is my personal hell. Drives me insane.


Ditto, but I’m trying to disengage myself from it


It’s not your job to save people, it’s your job to speak truth and do right. The people who are going to come through better than most are the ones who decided to listen. Maybe not to you but to someone.

With any kind of evangelism you’re going to fail a whole lot more than you succeed, it’s just something that comes with the territory. That can definitely be depressing, but I’d suggest reading something like the old Isaiah’s Job article. It’s a whole lot better for your mental health to stick to a “reach the remnant” mindset rather than “reach the masses”, the latter will always disappoint.

https://mises.org/mises-daily/isaiahs-job


On point!


Onward 🫡


“You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him to find it within himself.”  - Galileo

Not your job to educate. If you must then just poke their wounds a bit and let them know there are options but they have to dig with their own motiviation.


You can’t save someone who doesn’t wanted saved….you only end up disappointed and hurt.


:blobyes:


Unfortunately this is so. The lesson of those able to help and seeing through the self-created prison is to be able to gently let go. But to be right back when the other developed the openness to listen and wants to find out what causes their misery.


Honestly I’ve done better with the masses than I ever did with people close to me. I’m better at scale.


Sometimes the hardest part of being strong is showing weakness, and sometimes the hardest part of being dumb is dealing with the consequences of your actions.


You've mentioned this before and I have commented this to you before.  I'm definitely one of the individuals you influenced and showed a path forward with bitcoin.  I was already primed but your early podcast appearances pushed me over the edge. Grateful to you for that 🤙

There is a reason people will take advice from a shrink/internet random instead of a family member or friend.


This.

After Decades of trying, I've decided the best way of changing people is to lead by example, and let them observe you.

No one gets out of a hole using rational argument, so reasoning is ineffective. All you can do is be the best version of yourself around them and hope their emotions kick in and lead them in the right direction.


"There is a counsel that I should give to you, but it is not easy to advise you. It is a matter of your own will, and I shall not tell you what to do."

-Gandalf


Yep, been there. The people who need the help the most are the first to reject it. It just be some kind of law of nature.


a prophet is not taken seriously in his own town


We are never appreciated properly in our hometowns. This is a common problem amigo


Since it looks we are on our Biblical phase..."Truly I tell you, no prophet is accepted in his hometown"


Facts


Yeah I think it’s easier, because the internet only knows a successful version of you whereas everyone from the past remembers the unsuccessful version.


Yep. I’m finally beginning to make my peace with it.


Meeting new people and cutting off old friends for me has been the easiest way to do so. Old friends only try to revert back your progress and equate our success to blind luck lol. Just toxic energy, not beneficial at all


Absolutely. I really only hang out with people I consider peers now. I try not to adopt losers anymore lol 😆


When I get back to the states we def gotta meet irl. It’s rare to meet ppl like us in the wild lollll


“You can’t reason someone out of a corner they’ve reasoned themself into.”


Great call.  Negative energy folks suck away one's positive energy.  And it feels like positive energy multiplies into more positive energy... which is great feeling, just need to avoid the rose colored glasses.