Well government IS force, as George Washington once said. I was questioning nostr:nprofile1qqsfp6eqxe8w5g7ryzm4q3mtxemjk56ghu5kp5xkh22pywd9wm9rz5qpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgjwaehxw309ac82unsd3jhqct89ejhxqg5waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t0sek008's insinuation that human governments are invalid, in light of the scriptures that seem to argue that Christians should submit to them. 

Perhaps we are to submit 
even though we know they are illegit. 🫠

Except for when they call for us to disobey God.