Follower counts are the least exciting aspect of a user's profile. Their proof of work and contributions are much more valuable.

https://m.primal.net/KSrn.png


These number are insane 🤯


Here is my #ProofOfWork from night sky 🌌
https://nostrcheck.me/media/2aadfb8ac7d43aca6d164ed99248147910048269601ff60d4463c4d5b3abfdcd/e81ce2b9d0b067f0612fe76176d15f2b7f8304df2569f79d7e8bce411f53d7fa.webp


might be cool to show number of notes and last time they posted instead of followers


I don’t trust those numbers. 🧐


nostr:nprofile1qqsqf9ecfdtmg0qs0fmcsuzx9yqm768qapvrkvhzs9jkx4puqktcffqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuum5dahx2u3wvdhk6tcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsqzmsqh demonstrated that his are mostly all fake follows/bots during his 4M profile creation experiment 🤣


Yes, most are very high and bot inflated. Which was my point of this note. Follower counts are not good metrics.


I wish we’d get rid of this metric once and for all


That’s wild. I had no idea.


How many of those followers are <<active>> users I wonder?


nostr:npub1qjtnsj6hks7pq7nh3pcyv2gpha5wp6zc8vew9qt9vd2rcpvhsjjqydz44v proved that it could be gamed

He’s prob the only one in that list that will admit to gaming it

everyone else either is oblivious to it happening or doing it themselves

i for a fact know my follower count was tampered with bc of the huge spike it did alongside a select few others in a short short time span of 2-3 weeks


Agree. Also a raito of notes vs replies is a good enhancement indicator.


Absolutely. This.


A lot of these are bots/dummy profiles and non-active users.


U have the power

don’t make the UI for it 💀


I didn’t. On purpose. Since day 1


Very likely!


Especially when it’s deceitful.


I can write a book called Billy the Millipede to get kids addicted to the metric system again


Right. He made 4M npubs. Right around that time nostr:nprofile1qqsr9cvzwc652r4m83d86ykplrnm9dg5gwdvzzn8ameanlvut35wy3gpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3qamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wwa5kuegpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqcu9929 shot up a lot too, so I would have guessed that Ron or someone else used bots to mass follow will then too.

Everyone else has slowly been consistently rising for a year. But this is besides the point. My point is that it's a shitty metric that so many people are concerned with.


Some say deceitful
I say FULLY TRAINED
SPECIAL FORCES OPERATOR

NOT HERE TO MEDIATE

IM THEIR LEADER


Dude. What?


Absolutely it’s even a shittier metric knowing that it’s gamed n faked as well

This will really turn someone’s whole brain upside down when they come from other social medias 😂 they’re gonna be like wait what ? no rat race?? what do i do!?


ok girl… if that works for you.


I’m the leader of the Ken Dolls

https://media.tenor.com/mIeJMlmLcB0AAAAC/barbie-diy.gif


nostr:npub18384z4sjgdfy7vr76thzwtru7jncysz0hcapwesxqsak44p8aemsyfaslh you like #Jax

https://youtu.be/IrKXSTk9Sq4?si=3gTUami-1XFJ9owe


We get it, Derek, you have a shitload of followers but it’s “not exciting” for you ;)


Absolutely, won’t be my first but it will be my last war https://media.tenor.com/ug8vdKLEYOoAAAAC/band-of-brothers.gif


That's not what I meant. This note was created because of influencer talk in another thread. I was trying to show that these numbers don't mean all that much and better metrics exist.


saylor 🫠


I know Derek I’m just giving you shit man 🫂


Wipe them off with a clean cloth .. dipped in alcohol

The only relevant metric is zaps sent and zaps earned ..

Other platforms ( not protocols) report these weird metrics because they have no measure of real value ..

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I wasn't sure since I didn't see a footstr tag 🤣


Still waiting for dude to Zap someone.


i totally agree.. ..what metrics do you think are [even] important? ..maybe just Posts/Replies counts would be enough? ..the profile details and the actual posts/replies content is all you really need to want to follow or not follow someone


These measures come from old social that has no means to report real value .. #zaps  .. sooner you drop them ..better for the protocol ..


Real worth is number of zaps received / sent .. not the total value of zaps .. may be both !


Need those orange checks


The only signal on nostr is freedom
Every other metric, whether followers or zap counts, is noise


In the case of Japanese users, the number of posts and replies are reversed compared to other users. Additionally, bots created by Japanese users have a significantly high number of posts.


Absent bots, follower count is a metric designed to show a coefficient of interesting behavior. If the crowd is looking in the same direction it could be one indicator of information worth knowing. This was Fame's original purpose. If you do great things (both terrible and honorable) others will know your name.

In short: Follower count= approximate intrigue.  Not to be arbitrarily discarded.


Look at all these CENTRALIZED followers... Tsk Tsk. We need to definitely decentralize them more...


Geeeeeeez... Those numbers are 🙃


Who is Ron Stoner?


Someone who proved that the follower count could be easily gamed.


Follower counts are the least exciting aspect of a user's profile. Their proof of work and contributions are much more valuable.

https://m.primal.net/KSrn.png


Gotta keep you on your toes, no pun intended 🦶