GM

 nostr:npub10pensatlcfwktnvjjw2dtem38n6rvw8g6fv73h84cuacxn4c28eqyfn34f is a unpaid 100% passthrough volunteer organization.

The whole team genuinely cares about the mission.

We have extremely very diverse opinions and backgrounds and very limited operational resources for the volume of applications.

No application is decided by a single person. We also have committee of also volunteer peers who also opine and vote. Once the committee votes with soft ACKs. We have a minimum of 5 positive votes by the board for approval policy.

Everyone and their applications are considered! But we are not going to fund everything. After careful volunteer time is used for reviews a vote is made.

There are many orgs with different methods.

No one is entitled to be funded. Pro tip, be graceful. Aside from being extremely unprofessional to shit on OpenSats in public, you are shitting on unpaid ppl who are trying to do their best and are not perfect. We simply don't have the time and resources (and shouldn't waste money) on giving each and everyone a very detailed feedback. we are talking about hundreds of applications and a dozen ppl here.

Criticism is very much always welcomed and encouraged. We need to know what we can do better.

If you truly care about improving, send a fucking EMAIL. Bitching in public only hurts the ppl who are doing the work.

The FOSS funding will continue until freedom improves ✌


You’re kind saying the actions are unprofessional. What I observed this spring from adult male devs was whining to a disgusting degree. Appreciate you.


If you cannot turn it off or stop it, it's decentralized.

Can I pls have $20k now sir for my analysis


Onward 🫡


Ignore the haters. Keep doing what you do 👊


Appreciate all you are doing! I know we shouldn’t trust anyone but you are one of the good guys out in the world


🔫 real shit


1.  Email is for boomers.
2.  If they have a stake in companies that are asking for opensats funding, they shouldn't be on the opensats board.
3.  This is the internet, unprofessional is what we do.  Case in point: this note is unprofessional as fuck.


As far as communication goes, could someone consider email discussions closed sourced and nostr discussion open sourced?


OpenSats is in part funded by the general public – donations are solicited from everyone, and accepted via BTC and fiat. That's one reason why grants are made public: it'd be absurd for OpenSats to be spending money without disclosing who is getting it.

But it's also absurd if the _rejected_ applications are entirely private too. Which is the status quo. Funders should have some idea of what they could have spent money on, and didn't.

All I did was reveal two rejected applications. If that is enough to constitue serious drama, you should rethink what you're doing...

nostr:nevent1qqswx60ffrdslpq2hnm3am2sraapnz9s0emkh482jdk205rf09yqhzspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsyg8g3f53axxenp7fv3fpmlmqqf0kquqr0zjg0yvqmjamffgz0pgyzypsgqqqqqqs3dny47


good to know! thanks for sharing!


You obviously are not the person to do PR.


Is there any statistic available, that would clarify the acceptance rate?

In other words,
granted applications : total applications • 100


Could you also give some criteria for which applications are more likely to be accepted?
This is a bit of a mystery, at the moment, but I'm sure future applicants would appreciate knowing what you are specifically looking for, in an application. Is there some sort of checklist you could post on your website?


 nostr:npub1ej493cmun8y9h3082spg5uvt63jgtewneve526g7e2urca2afrxqm3ndrm brought up a really good point (though I know very little details beyond their response to this thread https://primal.net/e/note1d9ca5vcpyrlhw7npt6mx2p3vh043zfzxfgj68takdnmjy96x94zsnevj5d)

If someone's application is rejected, isn't it within their right to broadcast the contents of their application, and to voice their frustrations with the OpenSats system?

Again, I don't have all the details here, but I'd think a bit of open criticism, or, ahem, "bitching" as a direct quote from  nostr:npub1az9xj85cmxv8e9j9y80lvqp97crsqdu2fpu3srwthd99qfu9qsgstam8y8, would potentially improve the system by putting a bit of public attention on a failing point of OpenSats?


I think you guys are doing an amanzing job. I game you1800$ this year so far. 200$ a month


Straight forward feedback on why the application was denied is beneficial to all participants and reduces the drama fuel. Why not?


Whos going to write the feedback?


🙌 20k can make a real impact, tangible, measurable, meaningful open-source innovations.


Whoever is keeping meeting minutes during the vote, perhaps? I'm assuming there's some discussion of the acceptance criteria and then a vote.


Of course it's within their "right" but it's still poor form, rude and unprofessional


on a centralized platform, there is a chance they wouldn't be able to complain about it. luckily, he's free to do so.


what's the failing point?


GM

 nostr:npub10pensatlcfwktnvjjw2dtem38n6rvw8g6fv73h84cuacxn4c28eqyfn34f is a unpaid 100% passthrough volunteer organization.

The whole team genuinely cares about the mission.

We have extremely very diverse opinions and backgrounds and very limited operational resources for the volume of applications.

No application is decided by a single person. We also have committee of also volunteer peers who also opine and vote. Once the committee votes with soft ACKs. We have a minimum of 5 positive votes by the board for approval policy.

Everyone and their applications are considered! But we are not going to fund everything. After careful volunteer time is used for reviews a vote is made.

There are many orgs with different methods.

No one is entitled to be funded. Pro tip, be graceful. Aside from being extremely unprofessional to shit on OpenSats in public, you are shitting on unpaid ppl who are trying to do their best and are not perfect. We simply don't have the time and resources (and shouldn't waste money) on giving each and everyone a very detailed feedback. we are talking about hundreds of applications and a dozen ppl here.

Criticism is very much always welcomed and encouraged. We need to know what we can do better.

If you truly care about improving, send a fucking EMAIL. Bitching in public only hurts the ppl who are doing the work.

The FOSS funding will continue until freedom improves ✌


and simply share the notes and remove the names for privacy if that is the issue.


Or have AI write a summary for each application discussed.


Someone should start an org with all those ideas. There is need for even more options.


You asked a question. I gave you a reasonable answer.
It is fair to assume that the selection and evaluation is being recorded, in some way, as that is standard practice for meetings.

Simply structure the process, from the beginning, so that it is transparent, in the end. That will lower the amount of effort required, in the mid-term, not raise it.


How is feedback not a requirement, but instead a cop-out: "it's simply too resource intensive"


🎯 be the change you wish to see


Great post 👍


Demanding of both someone else's time and their money and acting entitled about it is not a "failing" of those being demanded of.

And of course it is their right to say whatever they think, but in my opinion it is of extremely poor character and will only reflect on them, not OpenSats.

Nobody is owed anything, not an explanation, not a thorough analysis of their project. Nothing.  Do you even comprehend how much time and energy it would take to do that?


Hell, I barely even "voiced my frustrations" beyond mentioning that you just don't get any feedback on how to improve.


Bzzzp 🤜🏻⚡🤛🏽


I just reread the post-in-question. Totally with you on that one. https://primal.net/e/note1rf5frvx86d6n99d6sntjsxenjrmgzpm4qht7hzersyx6h87dzryqvnmgud


GM 🌻
Mr beard 🧔


What we really need is more opensats like organisations.


Very few ppl want to deal with all the bullshit 😂


The organization that’s taken in 10s of millions of dollars maybe?

You insinuated that responding to dozens of people is to burdensome maybe you should step down and give your spot to someone who can allocate the proper amount of time to respond to applicants.

Without applicants opensats is nothing. Opensats owes everything to those that apply, if not opensats wouldn’t have a purpose.

You seem to have a problem with having open conversations, what’s the issue with having a discussion in public? The reason is you don’t want feed back you want yes men.

Get off your fucking high horse bro.


It's a dozen ppl responding to hundreds. You got it inverted. We are also always taking volunteers. Please apply.


if you don't have time to provide detailed feedback, a simple "gfy 🫂"  goes a long way


ONWARD 🫡


Onward 🫡


Slay your entitled heroes


Pura Vida 🌴