UNFORTUNATELY I HAD TO RESPONSIBLY KILL MY LONGEST RUNNING LIGHTNING NODE OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

TRIED TO DO IT AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE FEE RATES FOR THE SAKE OF MY CHANNEL PARTNERS.

STILL RUNNING FOUR OTHER NODES. ONWARD. 🫡


ok cool mempools can clear now


RIP 🪦


JUST LIKE PUPPY SAIL 😢

#YESTR

RIP


OLD YELLER MOMENT. STACK SOME FOR THOSE CHANNELS NO LONGER WITH US.


Pour one out


I also nuked my lightning node when the bull started :/ Been running for years. Rip


Sounds great.


SORRY TO HEAR IT MATT


I did the same. Unfortunately with the current state of things it is not manageable, not profitable, not stable to run a lightning node at home. This is the reality 🥹


All good things come to an end, eventually.

But they make room for new things to emerge.


Onward 🫡


I could possibly open a channel with you if desired.


what was the reason for killing it?


legend


:zap:


Thank you for your service!


LOW-FEE MERCY KILLING


What do you run them on? I'm just getting started with umbrel


Any body have links on how to manage a channel responsibly for a n00b?


Well done.

Below is an article and an issue I think is worth bringing forward.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbirnbaum/2024/02/14/ucc-amendments-trojan-horse-for-bitcoin-or-cbdc-nightmare/


BEST WAY TO RUN A LIGHTNING NODE IS VOLTAGE.

https://voltage.cloud


MADE A LOT OF MISTAKES ON THAT NODE. STARTED TO ADD UP.


Disagree with this. Might be the easiest. I think the *best* way is on machines you control.


Does Voltage runs in AWS?


EVERYTHING HAS TRADEOFFS.

LIGHTNING NODES FUCKING SUCK TO SELF HOST.

DO WITH THAT INFO AS YOU WANT.


List of mistakes please 🙏🏽 so we don’t make the same ones 👍🏾👍🏾


Best? Hosted? 🤔


They may suck but you can get shotgun KYC’d by cloud computing. Pick your poison.

Getting locked into a cloud providers infrastructure makes you ruggable. Know this from personal experience.


GE


Was wondering.  My Channel closed.. 😂.  RIP..
I knew this day would come. Hopefully your channels find a place in heaven with puppy,sail. ⚡


Thank you for running nodes (plural), and for letting noobs know that even someone as dialed-into the space as you, can experience issues.


Whats the solution?


Please make the difference between public and private LN nodes.
Many newbies will consider your statement that all LN nodes could be run like that (on Volrage), when in fact (is not true) and we already have many ways to run LN nodes (in private).

https://m.primal.net/HdCv.jpg
https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/private-lightning-nodes


respect.


Mutiny doesn't run on our server. Everything runs on your phone, the only thing that our server does is serve the static website files.


How is it so damn fast then??


Because we don't use lnd


My longest running channel 🥺 R.I.P.  https://image.nostr.build/309bc0322c777905d848e660eb94929f00c94c93f51bf491f2a416e7ba9ba7a1.png


What if I want to be a custodian for a small community (or family).

Somehow serious HW with raid, backups and everything, but not "enterprise" level (no isp backup, small ups just to shutdown clearly).

Public or private?


Here is a guide
https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/bitcoin-private-banks-over-lightning


Thank you, lord.


So, after reading, I still have the same question. Can I rely on hinting or I need announced channels?


You can make multiple combinations.
Having a public node (as the face node) with public channels and all liquidity shit, offering good routes. More as a decoy node.

Then behind this one, you could run another node, but only with a big private channel with your node A (public). Optional you could open another big private channel (for more reliability) with another good big node.

Then your "customers" bank will connect with private channels and nodes (like Zeus, Blixt, Breez, Electrum, Mutiny) towards your node B (private) offering them liquidity.
But for private nodes is also recommended to have 2-3 channels not just one, for more reliability and also using MPP (multi-part payment).


Make sense. I endup with this setup. I'm still wondering if I could run a node with just private channels to (hopefully) good peers and still have an ability to receive payments (for merchants using an account on lnbits connected to that backend).

Privacy aside (for sake of simplicity). I don't need to (or want actually) route. I need the merchants be able to receive.


Sure, why not?
I wrote several guides and here you have some that you could run two powerful private nodes on your mobile device:
- https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/getting-started-zeus-mobile
- https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/getting-started-with-blixt-mobile


Why not is the question.

Is there a disadvantage in having just private channels? Is it more likely a route to fail for incoming payments with only unannounced channes?

For small payments never. For bigger one (like 0.005) I can't tell if it's because of bad connection or discoverability (if it's a word)


Next gen techn XD


spinning up nodes is very easy.  What to do if something goes wrong, such as data corruption, hardware faults...etc...  is something else entirely on Lightning.


What do you do if the sun explodes idk


Yup, that's the point, you don't know.


Awesome, will check that out. Thanks for the response.