Oddbean new post about login | logout Had anyone dug into the massive surge in nostr account activity over the past 2 weeks? Looks like 90% of note volume is coming from a new cohort of accounts with zero trust ranking (no connection to the core growth of active users.) Someone attempting a spam / Sybil attack?
Nostrich house bots maybe?
You mean : https://image.nostr.build/d95cf4e8247710601feecbaf80c26d508d76b5f440f0da435d46359456624a10.jpg
Looking from the user perspective, you gotta love Amethyst. Dan blocked the easy way :-) But that of course doesn't solve the issue for relay operators and network floodings. https://image.nostr.build/83b117214741d8465e84754ddda7fb93a1e4b10fed621d93085c82c859446ff4.jpg
@jb55 there’s something I can do to filter spam in the main or global feed ?
Yeah, that absolutely has to be a spam/bot attack of some sorts. Traffic trends among trusted accounts shows zero impact at all from the surge, which wouldn’t happen if it were organic, even in the slightest part. https://image.nostr.build/5fe5b1a9c0620d590d3f8508ffb6583948f388c8a0c9886f9430072cf6675949.jpg https://image.nostr.build/840dc1550c4c56304813cdee893deb7186aeb4b8df6fc332edd1941f5d34a56d.jpg
Interesting that it's increasing yeah.. I still have some free relays that these bots love to use. I will eventually either delete the relays or set them to paid mode. hotrightnow.nostr1.com for example. I think the bots are just trying to remind us that free relays aren't free or something... ¯\(◉‿◉)/.
that does seem like a suspicious spike
I guess I’m one of them 👋
My feed in nostr is without noise. Bitcoin only posts for the time being.
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I guess the Lyn Alden Bot account in the response is a response to your question
A sybil attack on Nostr is significantly more dangerous than on Bitcoin because of the high value in deanonymizing people who write controversial content.
It’s inevitable. When there’s no friction for creating an account you’ll get spam. Paid relays can help but then you get relay centralization long term
Don't know why relays aren't blocking all the bots.
How would you know it's a bot? The bot can easily spam under new generated npub each time.
Clients are ultimately responsible for filtering. We can do a lot on the relay but we also don't want to be too onerous.
currently filters are a simple, single, and positive filter, there is no negation this plus blacklisting as a default is gonna be a big problem for query sizes and wasted network data
good point. It's a hard balance to strike. We currently expire events from npubs outside of our WoT faster than those within it. That way we can let clients handle filtering for recent events, and obviate the load from holding/processing older events. We're small though and every relay can do things differently. if it ever ramps up to the point that its causing a denial of service, we can straight up block npubs outside our WoT at the relay. Hopefully it never comes to that
The solution is a NIP for,... Plebs recommended by plebs. There's already enough of us who can be trusted and if a trusted account mark the npub with " yup, this pleb is good 👍" they'll get trough the relay filter if not stop 🛑 right there you spammy bot!
Maybe it was me and my campaign against River . com
first time hearing of your campaign myself
I've seen many new accounts lately but this isn't just the Hello World spambot that has been pumping out notes left and right lately?
