Constantly hating on Saylor and fanboying for Saylor are two sides of the same coin, imo...

Giving too much importance and attention to any random thing he says. It's cool if he says something valuable, and whatever if he says something silly. The average person is going to have the same tumultuous journey as everyone else and I've come to realize that there's probably no great shortcut. 🤷🏻♂

I've kind of come to the same place with that sort of thing as I have with shitcoins. I used to spend SO much time and energy trying to explain why it's stupid and everyone was going to lose their money... now i just don't care. It's a waste of my time and it never seemed to work anyway. I just make my case to anyone who will listen.


Tribalism is such a cancer


Eh, it's also why humanity works to begin with. It just doesn't scale very well.


Do it for the memes guy. Life is short. It’s fun to dunk on statists.


We've lost the middle ground in many respects. It's absolutes across the board.

It's sad.

At the end of the day Saylor doesn't move the needle one way or another.

He's just another conduit to get people into Bitcoin.


:Gigachad:


I have the same approach with orange piling... Initially was super zealous but realized that everyone gets bitcoin at the price they deserve


BTC and XMR are not poopcoins. Everything else, in my opinion, is.


Many people are failing to Identify the audience Saylor message is tailored to reach

Financial Institutions and Corporations


We're all just some guy/gal.


Onward 🫡


Welcome Back!


Another good take. Salute.


Yet you make a living off others fanboying off you.

Hmm 🤔


Not me: I’m a shapeshifting majestic unicorn 🦄 who came from a galaxy 🌌 NASA hasn’t found yet … something about

LOVE ❤


I punch up hard for a day and get it out of my system.

There is no room for moderation when you are trying to shift the overton.

Moderation is for those who are comfortable with where the window is at.

I'll be happy when the window is shattered.


Compliance is the threat. Saylor is the enemy. Statism weakens Bitcoin, plain and simple.


For better or worse, Saylor is a public figure, and he has to play that game. Meaning, he has to be an actor.

He has to say and do things that he may not actually agree with in his heart of hearts, because ultimately he's trying to cover his ass. Who knows what conversations he has had behind closed doors and with whom.

I was there at Pacific Bitcoin when he said, "There's no value in being a martyr. What you want to be is a winner."

Sometimes on the public stage, it is genuinely in your own best interest to fib a bit. Or to at least conceal your intentions.

I'm not sure if Saylor is doing this or not, but it is worth considering. By no means do I think Saylor is an enemy to the Bitcoin project. I think he is a brilliant engineer and tactician. He has to be very strategic in what he says in the public arena.


Generational Wealth. You are Welcome 🫡


Cosigned!


This is a very healthy perspective. People are just people. Some say good things. Some say dumb things. Sometimes that’s the same person.

Eventually every person will own Bitcoin, and many people with Bitcoin will have different views, and speak to different audiences.

We are all in this inevitable train together.


People are also going from a 2 minute clip from a 10 minute segment and not putting into perspective of all the other things he's said over the years. Watching the full 10 minutes discussion on that issue made it much tamer. I didn't get the impression he was denigrating self-custody.  He's just a realist and is talking to corporations and institutional investors. All the "Fed!" and "Statist!" stuff is childish, simplistic, reactionary.


That’s an interesting point.


I think Saylor is like the oracle in the Matrix. He is saying exactly what everyone needs to hear.

The fiat world needs to hear that Bitcoin is not a threat and that it can safely fit within the fiat paradigm.

The Bitcoiner’s hear Saylor’s words of heresy and double down on self sovereignty. We hear the CEOs words and work even harder to create btc circular economy and self custody.

Saylor knows Bitcoiners will be undeterred and he knows fiat will be placated.

Well played imo.


I listen to u ❤☕
It’s my go to pod last month. 🙂
Amazing 💪🏻


yeah "it's complicated"


MSTR is a shitcoin!


Onward 🫡

Onward 🫡


His incentives was driving his train of thought there.  The journalist actually got him triggered by asking the right questions.  Most people who interview him are either totally ignorant about bitcoin or are just too happy about having him on their side.

When Saifedean wanted to talk about Austrian fundamentals Saylor became patronising and mocked Saife.

I think he showed the world the chip in his armour with regards to debate and dicussion.

This recent interviewer rightly, as a journalist should managed to keep poking him in the sore spot without being contentious.

He fucked up.  His Paranoid crypto anarchists statrment dropped a mask showing his endearment to the current financial dispensation.

He wants the ponzi to continue so that his Ivory tower keeps rising.  There is no humility.  Boromir was a good guy but he could not handle the power of the ring.

Satoshi dissapeared.  Time for Saylor to dissapear too.


I think the vitriol is a result of people correctly identifying, if not always fully articulating, that Saylor frequently talks out of both sides of his mouth.

In a few short years has he gone from saying "tax that!" to essentially condemning self-custody, cryptoanarchy, and anyone with an adversarial mindset vis a vis the state.

There is more than a whiff Elon Musk-esque carnival barker-y in Saylor. He reeks of inauthenticity and a lack of any deeply held values. He seems willing to change his views on a dime, with no acknowledgement, based on what he sees as being in his economic interest at that moment.

This isn't a case of Bitcoin's overactive social immune system. The pushback against Saylor is warranted and healthy, in my view. He wields a lot of influence, and has the potential to do a great deal of harm even as he helps pump the price. I would argue his position as an ossificationist has already done significant damage. And his opposition to self-custody and bitcoin's more revolutionary potential could do even more (btw, notice that his opposition to further protocol changes and self-custody are entirely consistent).

Just my 2sats. I'd be curious to hear if anyone disagrees.

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Constantly hating on Saylor and fanboying for Saylor are two sides of the same coin, imo...

Giving too much importance and attention to any random thing he says. It's cool if he says something valuable, and whatever if he says something silly. The average person is going to have the same tumultuous journey as everyone else and I've come to realize that there's probably no great shortcut. 🤷🏻♂

I've kind of come to the same place with that sort of thing as I have with shitcoins. I used to spend SO much time and energy trying to explain why it's stupid and everyone was going to lose their money... now i just don't care. It's a waste of my time and it never seemed to work anyway. I just make my case to anyone who will listen.


Nailed it.

If you think what he has to say matters to Bitcoin then you don’t understand bitcoin.

If you think what he has to say about bitcoin doesn’t matter to Bitcoin then stop going on about it.

Not that hard really!


I'm watching from the sidelines as if it's

"Bitcoin - the movie:
Featuring Michael Saylor in the lead as the fallen hero 😂 "

It's better fiction than fiction could ever be and is my main form of education on human psychology.

I also watched:

Roger Ver - The Movie
SBF  - The Movie
CZ - The Movie
Craig Wright - The Franchise 😂