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 Someone told me that extolling the virtues of nostr sovereignty won't help adoption and the only thing that matters is UX.

I think they're right when it comes to mass adoption. But I believe that in order for mass adoption to happen, we first must build a base of ideologically motivated early adopters who won't mind rough UX.

It's the fringe early adopters who will be willing to put in the work necessary to get us to mass adoption. 
 But the UX is already better here. 
 Primal UX better than Twitter imo. 

The only thing missing is content and more people. 
 Exactly, ppl need to stop perpetuating the UX lie. 
 Web clients ARE rough. If you come through the web, it’s an accurate statement. But mobile clients are pretty great already and only getting better 
 Primal web is on par already. 
 Mmm not quite. I use it daily and run into issues. But the mobile client is excellent! I just have a love affair with Damus 💜 and will persist through any flaws. Damus is getting really good too. 
 DMs suck. 
 There needs to be a why before anyone will even think about the how. 
 We must endure the pain and lead the charge.  
 Agreed. I think that’s essentially the same as claiming we won’t get adoption of #Bitcoin by extolling the principles of sound money and separating money from state. Sure mass adoption won’t happen because of that, but we won’t even have a single die hard fanatic who holds through 90% drawdowns without finding the people who care about those principles and understand the mission of fixing the money. 

Same story with Nostr: We don’t need to pitch this for mass adoption yet, we need to find all the dissidents, privacy advocates, those censored from centralized platforms, and everyone who cares about the *purpose* of Nostr. Thats millions and millions of people who would put up with more limitations, bugs, or lack of numerous features because they care about what it *means,* not what it is at this particular moment. And they will stay and build everything they want it to be.

You’ll never overtake centralized incumbents with detached users who just arbitrarily like some feature of an app. But if you can start a movement, the game is very, very different. 
 Just not having the adds, CIA & FBI is  a great UX improvement. 
 Feds are undoubtedly already on nostr 
 Probably so, just not having ads and algorithms make it worth while though. 
 People are very surprised they don’t get a lot of likes, followers and responses on Nostr. On Twitter it’s all automated and a lot of it is “fake” to stimulate endorphins. 

“People will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think.” - Huxley

So the real world community, the movement may always be small. 

I think it’s similar with Bitcoin, most people live paycheck to paycheck. They don’t care and don’t have time to think. 

Luckily with Bitcoin, it turns greed into altruism. Since during hyperbitcoinization it has an extreme upside in purchasing power. And after hyperbitcoinization there will be consequences for bad behavior. 

I personally see the power of Nostr as a market place. Peer to peer. We can communicate globally and pay with Bitcoin. Immutably documenting everything. 
 Nostr is Proof of work, this the real shit bro.  
 I think it's about solving problems. UX is important but remember that at some point in time, the concepts of a username and password and email address were very foreign to everyday people yet email still achieved mass adoption. I think the problem email solved more greatly outweighed the novel UX. 

For nostr, people who care about digital sovereignty and decentralized social media are coming/have come. They don't care about the UX. Normies don't care about digital sovereignty and decentralized social media and so for them the UX cons outweigh any benefit. Normies will come once nostr solves a problem for them. 
 Moving to nostr only, made me nostr hardly. It helped me kick that social media habit. Normies gonna normie. 
 protocols. ux. whatever. 
what we need is reels 'n' titties. that'll bring the masses.  
 Let the masses do what they always do, follow the masses. 
 what is the nostr?

https://youtu.be/UlJku_CSyNg 
 people just want to feel liked 
 ideologically motivated ?  by what ideology exactly ?  crypto scam pumps ?

this is a serious question.  if you can't even define what ideology you're talking about then you better go back to working on the UX.

@fiatjaf  
 history points to this being the way 
 WHAT CAN YOU DO ON NOSTR THAT YOU CAN'T DO ELSEWHERE ???

that is the question you suckers need to answer.

pumping crypto ( yes Bitcoin is a Shitcoin ) ain't it because you can do it anywhere.

@fiatjaf  
 Never take advice from people who communicate in absolutes. UI/UX is vital, but it is not ONLY.  
 Relay-side is where a lot of problems need to be solved.

The development of Client-side UX has been thoroughly enjoyable and exciting to experience. 
 Protocol adoption happens in waves. A robust ecosystem of clients with independent use cases will eventually tip the scales. 
 UX and network effect are both needed. Network effect would be most powerful if there is a benefit for whole groups to use #Nostr (in addition to the benefits for each individual in the group)