Talking politics with my family is incredibly frustrating. They're trapped in the Duopoly.

Right where the system wants them.


So sorry. Any intelectual honesty whatsoever?


Not when it comes to politics and economics.

and I'm being to general with "my family"


This is pretty much why I don't really talk about politics with anyone anymore.


Are they getting their daily firmware download via TV programming?


🫂 morphius always knows what to say


I think I gotta stop, but it's hard


It's definitely tough and I still get dragged into it myself occasionally. But I've tried to make it very clear that I don't care about us vs them / Left vs right kind of bullshit to most people I know. So most dont ask anymore.


Politics is so uninteresting to me now…i like to discuss repealing the 19th amendment, to prevent the inexorable slide towards communism, that’s usually a good conversation starter 👍


So what’s your solution? Don’t vote and buy bitcoin? Boring


Lol.
You might have a point.


You’re basically talking directly to a television set


The “firmware” of the female brain is communist.  Raise babies and toddlers, that can’t fend for themselves.  That translates poorly to adults in a hierarchical society - men are hardwired for hierarchy, women are not.  Thus the feminization and infantilization of all aspects of post modern society.


Love


same.  I caved and sent am honest email response today, prolly gonna regret it


Just don’t talk about it these days. I just get accused of being cynical for high lighting the problems and delusional for thinking bitcoin is the solution.


NYT and easing FOX to "get the other side"


I gotta get better at that


buying Bitcoin is voting

1) I'll be voting
2) my vote doesn't matter


and that's really sad to realize in someone you love and have looked up to your entire life


Yeah it is sad especially as we are older in our later years


I've learned the hard way that I'd be better off just doing my thing quietly so many times, but can't seem to do it 🫂


I don't think the solution to a broken system can come from within that system

but they don't take Bitcoin seriously as a potential antidote and the conversation can't really progress from there


Nah…if you love them, just be honest.  No filter for me.


And yet they have been brainwashed to kill their babies and get a career, to compete with men in the name of equality.
No wonder we are getting more and more angry cat ladies


Wrong. Your vote cancels out another. If you don’t vote you are voting the other side.


Pro tip: don't


Onward 🫡


I’ve known and felt this since I was 9/10 years old. Back then it was the Nixon/Vietnam era (no internet, but plenty of white noise! See Don Delillo’s book from that time..we all “knew” what was going on with just tv/radio/newspaper). I never resonated with politics and never will. The tribalism takes away the nuance of humanity.


see my answer #2 for my response


I'm not good at that and will do good to learn that by the his fall


this response really makes me want to pop a cork with you 🤝🍷


Talking politics with my family is incredibly frustrating. They're trapped in the Duopoly.

Right where the system wants them.


natural wine lover here

bitcoin talk plus "pop a cork" is really cool

in october I travel to US and if posible I ll like to buy a natural wine made by a bitcoiner. Is there any natural wine shop in NY or Miami where I can buy your wine?


Hey!

I only sell direct to consumer, but it's super easy to arrange a shipment to meet you wherever you're going to be.


It is what it is. Imo you just have to agree with them or ignore it and just enjoy the little bit of time you have left with them.

You don’t want the last convo you had with them to be an argument about how their fav politician is a pedo.


It really sucks seeing some of my friends and family getting swept up in the election drama. Recently I've been telling people that nothing will change until we fix the money. All I can do is lead by example at this point


well said. gonna just try to not talk about it


Same!  I don’t even try anymore. I just love them and talk about the weather.


that's the only way.
you just wanna shake people

but the only way is to walk your own path and hope they call out for you to wait so they can walk with you


boring but smart and I should probs do it more


OMG, same.  Even with the softest nudging, like RFK is kind of a kook, but some of his ideas are good. There's no daylight.


Agreed. I used to try harder and it became clear that there is an inverse relation between their acceptance/understanding of truth and the warmth of my relationship with them. I finally gave up and consciously traded the former for the latter in the hopes that, in time, the warmth will be a catalyst. I hope I’m right.  I’m still outspoken about issues of life and death, such as 💉💉.  As you can probably see, I’ve thought about this a lot and hope I’m doing it right. 🤷🏻♂


My mom always says: you can’t reason people out of something they didn’t reason themselves into.

In other words: Conclusions reached through emotion are typically unbreakable.


Politics is the new gladiator arena. It keeps people talking, thinking about the real issues.


ok I ll check it out to send some wine to miami, how long it takes?

thanks!


no daylight

this conversation "makes me sad" is the response


It’s same almost anywhere in the world. Politicians makes ppl blind to things that actually matter.


I can't argue with the conclusion you've reached. warmth and humanity seems like a better angle than combatting the machine


fkn a
well said


it's so much more bread and circuses than sports


you can pay for faster shipping, but normally I like to ship on Mondays and it arrives Thursday or Friday.

I can work directly with you to time it specifically tho. just shoot me a DM when you're looking to order


like love and friendship


who the fuck does that guy think he is?


Wisdom of mothers🫡