Great conversation. Thanks Jeff and Stefan. nostr:nevent1qqsxjl3r9a3ytx7uluqrz30x8k6n4t6thdn4w2wk35ke5nfwx9pz24qpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0qgst0xtvrqlqxm0j0qpfgkuqh0wgkzl4judkvgdgd0e4d8pnyytlqlgrqsqqqqqp4e6r4l